Dream Act for Mexican Invaders Waving Mexican Flag.
wis...@yahoo.com
<mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>
>
>They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>this mean California
>belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>wave Mexican flag
>if they claim they are just as American.
Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
ted
Benj
> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
You got the wrong idea. Just throw open the borders. And since
California has so much more money than sense, they should just pack
that money into bales and truck it to central Mexico where it's
scattered around the ground. "Undocumented Mexicans will soon arrive
by the millions to scoop it up. THEN put up the fence.
And I love the idea that we are all Californians whether we have
papers or not! Hey, *I* don't have California papers, but you know,
in my heart I'm still a Californian. I WANT MY SHARE OF THAT MONEY
TOO!!!
Seth Hammond
<wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase. All
else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.
celtex
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils not
contraband.
Omelet
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you want to go THAT far, then we all stole the entire US from the
Native Americans...
--
Peace! Om
"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om
"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein
Seth Hammond
"celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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No. I mean stolen. Read forty history books and then get back to us.
Seth Hammond
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>> > <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>> >>this mean California
>> >>belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>> >>wave Mexican flag
>> >>if they claim they are just as American.
>> >
>> > Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>> > the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>> >
>> > ted
>>
>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>> All
>> else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>> Texas.
>
> If you want to go THAT far, then we all stole the entire US from the
> Native Americans...
> --
Not quite. We bought some, and traded for some. It started with Manhattan
Island. Those fast talking smoothies sold us land no one had ever occupied.
The sellers lived nowhere near.
celtex
of Freedom Fighters from Texas that took Texas from the Mexican Government
but I guess the "Texicans" stole Texas in one huge Armed Robbery. I guess
you would like to give all the lands in the South back to Mexico? Should we
as a country never expanded? You tell us Seth what we horrible Americans
should do with our stolen properties?
Seth Hammond
Pretty much, yes.
> I guess you would like to give all the lands in the South back to Mexico?
Why bother? Many Mexicans are coming here now. It won't be too much longer
until they're a majority in some states.
> Should we as a country never expanded?
Should we steal Canada, too?
> You tell us Seth what we horrible Americans should do with our stolen
> properties?
Sell some and buy history books.
Make that eighty history books.
ne...@millions.com
As ICE rounds up the illegal migrants, many being from Mexico,
Leslie Seth Hammond, a crotchety old fart from Arizona who has
determined in his own fevered brain, a place he claims lies the
greater intellectual capacity than others who post on usenet, has
determined that he alone knows the true history of the Mexican-
American War. He has already claimed that he travels to the
Arizona-Mexico border (the Sonoran Desert) to give water and
aid to those traveling north.
This self proclaimed Citizen of the World is nothing more that a
self righteous fool who knows more than anyone else. In fact, he
presents himself as a rider of a Honda 50 CC in a Big Harley
world..
DCI
Long Ranger
I saw these clowns parading past our capital last week. Interesting that now
about one in ten is black. Sympathetic brotherly love eh?
Scout
Which was all stolen from the natives by the Spaniards.
So what's your point?
Scout
Maybe you should, and find out who the Spaniards stole it from.
Scout
Na, can't do that since the Mexican government stole the land in the first
place.
Of course, Seth may not want to go into that part of history.
Scout
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>> > <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>> >>this mean California
>> >>belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>> >>wave Mexican flag
>> >>if they claim they are just as American.
>> >
>> > Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>> > the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>> >
>> > ted
>>
>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>> All
>> else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>> Texas.
>
> If you want to go THAT far, then we all stole the entire US from the
> Native Americans...
And the Spain stole all of Mexico.
Scout
Yea, the sellers didn't even own the land....another tribe did.
D. Staples
Scout
"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, but they did understand the idea of territorial boundaries.
Long Ranger
"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Neither do we. Look what is happening to our country. It will soon be
occupied by a horde of Mexicans.
Omelet
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-48A3A...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
> >> > <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
> >> >>this mean California
> >> >>belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
> >> >>wave Mexican flag
> >> >>if they claim they are just as American.
> >> >
> >> > Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
> >> > the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
> >> >
> >> > ted
> >>
> >> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
> >> All
> >> else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
> >> Texas.
> >
> > If you want to go THAT far, then we all stole the entire US from the
> > Native Americans...
>
> Not quite. We bought some, and traded for some. It started with Manhattan
> Island. Those fast talking smoothies sold us land no one had ever occupied.
> The sellers lived nowhere near.
And now they live in small areas of the desert.
They are no dummies tho'. The smarter ones with business acumen are
actually doing quite well now.
And they live tax free with sovereignty.
Omelet
"Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> > The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
> > All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
> > Texas.
>
> Which was all stolen from the natives by the Spaniards.
>
> So what's your point?
<lol> I guess his history studies only go just so far back. ;-D
Perhaps he's never heard of the Aztecs or Yaquis, etc.
Omelet
"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote:
That is very true.
Omelet
"Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
And constantly violated them... But that was a lifestyle.
professorgunz
And don't forget that Texas was "stolen" by the people who actually
lived there. That makes it a successful rebellion, not a conquest.
Seth Hammond
"Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
run.
Seth Hammond
Do you believe that lawful title to land should be based upon military
conquest?
I guess we now own Iraq then.
Seth Hammond
Mexico existed long before the Spanish invasion, and Mexicans moved here
freely, as did all of the indigenes. It's even part of their culture and
folklore.
See Kokopelli
Scout
Nope, they aren't citizens nor legal residents, thus they have no right to
be here.
After all, the Mexican government wouldn't allow me to do what they are
doing, so why should we allow them to do it?
> and more than most. Borders are merely political constructs of little
> importance in the long run.
Except that they denote where nations exist and mark the territory over
which they can exercise control. Which control includes allowing or denying
entry from outside.
Sure in 1,000 years it may not matter, but now, today, it does.
Seth Hammond
Not really. There are parts of Mexico where indigenes still rule. There's
racial discrimination all over Mexico. It's all about blacks vs whites =
Indigenes vs Spaniards.
Scout
Yep.
> I guess we now own Iraq then.
Potentially we do if we chose to exercise that and could make it stick.
Scout
The land certainly did, the nation however did no.
>and Mexicans moved here freely,
Most of them from Spain.
>as did all of the indigenes.
The ones that survived, which very few did.
> It's even part of their culture and folklore.
But not history.
Seth Hammond
"Own" is a bad word to use in this context. 'Controlled' might be better,
but no one bothered to control an island of nothing but salt grass. Control
would only matter if there was anything there of value. The gringos only
wanted it because it offered a modicum of security away from the mainland.
The Indios had no use for it.
Scout
Yea, really.
> There are parts of Mexico where indigenes still rule.
And there are parts of the US where Indians still rule.
So what's your point?
>There's racial discrimination all over Mexico. It's all about blacks vs
>whites = Indigenes vs Spaniards.
So?
Seth Hammond
"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Certainly not in the sense that we do. Land was controlled for hunting
rights, firewood, water, etc. Permission was required to cross lands
controlled by each local tribe.
Scout
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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> In article <48e2e4ba$0$5472$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>
> "celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > "celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> > news:48e2d949$0$5477$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>> >>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>> >>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians.
>> >>>>>Does
>> >>>>>this mean California
>> >>>>>belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>> >>>>>wave Mexican flag
>> >>>>>if they claim they are just as American.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ted
>> >>>
>> >>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden
>> >>> Purchase.
>> >>> All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico,
>> >>> and
>> >>> Texas.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils
>> >> not
>> >> contraband.
>> >
>> > No. I mean stolen. Read forty history books and then get back to us.
>> >
>> You reading Kali History books or what Seth? When I was in school they
>> told
>> of Freedom Fighters from Texas that took Texas from the Mexican
>> Government
>> but I guess the "Texicans" stole Texas in one huge Armed Robbery. I guess
>> we
>> as a country never expanded? You tell us Seth what we horrible Americans
>> should do with our stolen properties?
>
> How about if we let the American Indians have total amnesty from
> prosecution for a week, and tell them whitey is fair game?
You really do hate American Indians if you want to have them exterminated
like that..........
Seth Hammond
"Long Ranger" <lorpkins@earthlink .net> wrote in message
news:MYOdnTfOyJRxCH7V...@comcast.com...
Again.
Who was here first, Indians or gringos?
Seth Hammond
Unless of course there's oil/gold/uranium or anything else the gringos want
there.
>
> They are no dummies tho'. The smarter ones with business acumen are
> actually doing quite well now.
Not only the smart ones. Casinos are a leveling influence.
>
> And they live tax free with sovereignty.
Until this nation has a *real* emergency. Then they enlist in droves.
Too bad the Indios don't get the same treatment in Mexico innit.
Seth Hammond
> In article <Q8ednea8raDb537V...@earthlink.com>,
> "Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> > The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>> > All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>> > Texas.
>>
>> Which was all stolen from the natives by the Spaniards.
>>
>> So what's your point?
>
> <lol> I guess his history studies only go just so far back. ;-D
> Perhaps he's never heard of the Aztecs or Yaquis, etc.
> --
One of us HAS read those forty history books.
Seth Hammond
Sorta. At least that's what the greedy gringos claimed.
Seth Hammond
Had there been no violations there woulda been no need for boundaries - but
you knew that.
Such violations were their pro football.
Seth Hammond
"professorgunz" <mre...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gc05vc$orv$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
That's silly bullshit. Mexicans, Comanches and other Indians lived there
way first. They ruled until they were outnumbered by Austin's trash from
back east. He promised land far beyond his land grant from Spain's Phillip.
He did it purposely in order to outnumber Mexican constabulary. They were
allowed to stay on if they:
1. Renounced Protestantism and became Catholics
2. Renounced US citizenship and became citizens of Mexico
They did both.
When the double turncoat rabble outnumbered Mexican military assigned to the
area, they:
1. Renounced Catholicism and became Protestants
2. Renounced Mexican citizenship and became citizens of the US
They did both, and should have been shot on sight by either side. They were
all proven traitors and turncoats - FOUR TIMES!
Hornblende
>>
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> "celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:48e2d949$0$5477$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>> news:6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>>>>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>>>>>>> this mean California
>>>>>>> belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>>>>>>> wave Mexican flag
>>>>>>> if they claim they are just as American.
>>>>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>>>>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>>>>> All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>>>>> Texas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Stolen? You mean purchased with the blood of American's soldiers and
>>>> sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils not
>>>> contraband.
>>>
>> You reading Kali History books or what Seth? When I was in school they told
>> of Freedom Fighters from Texas that took Texas from the Mexican Government
>> but I guess the "Texicans" stole Texas in one huge Armed Robbery. I guess
>> you would like to give all the lands in the South back to Mexico? Should we
>> as a country never expanded? You tell us Seth what we horrible Americans
>> should do with our stolen properties?
>
> How about if we let the American Indians have total amnesty from
> prosecution for a week, and tell them whitey is fair game?
How about if we pin a tail on your ass and send you out in the desert to
run around?
Hornblende
WRONG!
Drop fucking dead you stupid asshole.
Hornblende
who fucking cares and what difference does it make.
Hornblende
Get over your white guilt, little man.
Hornblende
Who fucking cares???
Hornblende
Hornblende
Fuck em if they can't take a joke then...
Hornblende
So fucking what.
Hornblende
You planning on deeding your property over to "natives" Seth?
Hornblende
>>> "celtex" <jimdn...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:48e2d949$0$5477$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>>>>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>>>>>>> this mean California
>>>>>>> belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>>>>>>> wave Mexican flag
>>>>>>> if they claim they are just as American.
>>>>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>>>>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>>>>> All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>>>>> Texas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils not
>>>> contraband.
>>> No. I mean stolen. Read forty history books and then get back to us.
>>
>
> Do you believe that lawful title to land should be based upon military
> conquest?
Are you going to sign over the deed on your property to "natives"?
Post the time and place.
Hornblende
> celtex wrote:
>>
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians. Does
>>>>> this mean California
>>>>> belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>>>>> wave Mexican flag
>>>>> if they claim they are just as American.
>>>>
>>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>>>>
>>>> ted
>>>
>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden
>>> Purchase. All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New
>>> Mexico, and Texas.
>>>
>>>
>> Stolen? You mean purchased with the blood of American's soldiers and
>> sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils
>> not contraband.
>
> lived there.
Tough titties.
Hornblende
Who cares?!?!
Omelet
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
> run.
Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of the
residents...
--
Peace! Om
"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om
"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein
Scout
The people invading us, are not, largely of native decent, but Spanish
So your question makes little sense. Nor does it matter who was here first,
only who currently controls the land.
Omelet
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > And now they live in small areas of the desert.
>
> Unless of course there's oil/gold/uranium or anything else the gringos want
> there.
That used to be true. Not so much anymore now.
>
>
> >
> > They are no dummies tho'. The smarter ones with business acumen are
> > actually doing quite well now.
>
> Not only the smart ones. Casinos are a leveling influence.
I guess so.
They do a lot more than just own casinos, even tho' that is a big money
maker. Ever driven thru Arizona and New Mexico near the reservations?
They know all about Tourist Traps. ;-)
> >
> > And they live tax free with sovereignty.
>
> Until this nation has a *real* emergency. Then they enlist in droves.
>
> Too bad the Indios don't get the same treatment in Mexico innit.
I don't know that much about what goes on over there with that.
Omelet
"Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Native Americans did not know the concept of land ownership.
> >>
> >> No, but they did understand the idea of territorial boundaries.
> >
> > And constantly violated them... But that was a lifestyle.
> > --
>
> Had there been no violations there woulda been no need for boundaries - but
> you knew that.
>
> Such violations were their pro football.
<lol> True.
Gladiatorial games.
Omelet
Hornblende <st...@gem.quality> wrote:
> > Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone,
>
> WRONG!
>
> Drop fucking dead you stupid asshole.
Oh now THAT was a clever argument...
:-P
Scout
> In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
>> run.
>
> Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>
> But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of the
> residents...
And to obey the laws.....including those concerning immigration, entry and
residency.......
Omelet
"Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
I never questioned that fact.
Honestly, there are plenty of legal immigrants where I work. How hard
can it be?
Scout
> In article <H7qdnXhTHOOaIn7V...@earthlink.com>,
> "Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ompomelet-EF0E6...@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
>> > "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>> >> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the
>> >> long
>> >> run.
>> >
>> > Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>> >
>> > But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of
>> > the
>> > residents...
>>
>> And to obey the laws.....including those concerning immigration, entry
>> and
>> residency.......
>
> I never questioned that fact.
>
> Honestly, there are plenty of legal immigrants where I work. How hard
> can it be?
Seems much too hard for some people.
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
news:48e3b816$0$19509$7836...@newsrazor.net...
None to asshole racists.
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
You learn from me every day. That's why you resent me so.
You almost never even offer rebuttal - just ad hominems. That's what helps
prove me right to the dumber among us.
Have I thanked you?
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
Do you detest ALL truth?
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
Indians or gringos.
HTH.
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
and feed em riceballs?
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
How would that be any of yer fucken business?
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
Indigenes.
HTH.
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
(It's part of what's called 'Geography' & 'History').
professorgunz
> Seth Hammond wrote:
>> "professorgunz" <mre...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:gc05vc$orv$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> celtex wrote:
>>>> news:6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> <wis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>>>>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians.
>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>> this mean California
>>>>>>> belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why they
>>>>>>> wave Mexican flag
>>>>>>> if they claim they are just as American.
>>>>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would be
>>>>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden
>>>>> Purchase. All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona,
>>>>> New Mexico, and Texas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Stolen? You mean purchased with the blood of American's soldiers and
>>>> sometimes citizens. Not such thing as stolen in war. Victor's spoils
>>>> not contraband.
>>> lived there. That makes it a successful rebellion, not a conquest.
>>
>> That's silly bullshit. Mexicans, Comanches and other Indians lived
>> there way first.
>
<Piggybacking on Hornblende since the prior post was probably killfiled>
And the "Mexicans" who lived there were part of the Glorious Revolution.
Lorenzo de Zavala was our first VP. And, while you're at it, the
Comanches weren't "native;" they moved in from the north in historic
times (post-horse) and beat the crap out of the Tonkawas, Coahultecs,
and Apaches.
It doesn't make any difference now, but at least learn history if you're
going to spout off on it.
Seth Hammond
"Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
Next you'll admit that you support Israel.
Hornblende
> In article <48e3b78f$0$19509$7836...@newsrazor.net>,
> Hornblende <st...@gem.quality> wrote:
>
>>> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone,
>> WRONG!
>>
>> Drop fucking dead you stupid asshole.
>
> Oh now THAT was a clever argument...
>
> :-P
Did you think the statement on Mexicans, sans any mention of obeying our
laws, was "clever" too?
Hornblende
Hornblende
> In article <H7qdnXhTHOOaIn7V...@earthlink.com>,
> "Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ompomelet-EF0E6...@news.giganews.com...
>>> In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>>>> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
>>>> run.
>>> Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>>>
>>> But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of the
>>> residents...
>> And to obey the laws.....including those concerning immigration, entry and
>> residency.......
>
> I never questioned that fact.
That's the kernel of little Seth's corrupt social equation.
Deal.
Hornblende
Fuck em.
Hornblende
> "Hornblende" <st...@gem.quality> wrote in message
> news:48e3b816$2$19509$7836...@newsrazor.net...
>> Seth Hammond wrote:
>>> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ompomelet-A0FD1...@news.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <Q8ednea8raDb537V...@earthlink.com>,
>>>> "Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden Purchase.
>>>>>> All else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Texas.
>>>>> Which was all stolen from the natives by the Spaniards.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what's your point?
>>>> <lol> I guess his history studies only go just so far back. ;-D
>>>> Perhaps he's never heard of the Aztecs or Yaquis, etc.
>>>> --
>>> One of us HAS read those forty history books.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> And somehow you learned nothing...
>
> You learn from me
How not to turn out...yes...
Hornblende
Do you have guilt over all American social history?
Hornblende
Irrelevant, they have their nations.
Hornblende
Bugger off.
Hornblende
You have never answered the question and never will.
You're a hypocrite and a liar.
And you always will be.
Hornblende
Fuck em.
Hornblende
Again, so fucking what?
It's a non-argument.
Hornblende
Classic obfuscation, why are you such a hypocrite?
Hornblende
All wonderful stuff to study and read on, and all completely irrelevant
to the situation in America today - period.
D. Staples
>> In article <0KWdnRlfzrjHHX7V...@posted.telecomsupplyinc>,
>> "D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> news:6kg4leF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ompomelet-48A3A...@news.giganews.com...
>>>>>> In article <6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> news:9jf5e4pdhj2kbgodj...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
>>>>>>>> <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailycal.org/article/102811/students_march_for_dream_act
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are waving Mexican flag and shouting they are Californians.
>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>> this mean California
>>>>>>>>> belonging to Mexico? Look at all these wetbacks. My God! Why
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> wave Mexican flag
>>>>>>>>> if they claim they are just as American.
>>>>>>>> Deport them or shoot them. A border fence properly patrolled would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> the least costly and only minor blood spilled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ted
>>>>>>> The only Mexican land the US paid for fairly was the Gadsden
>>>>>>> Purchase.
>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>> else was stolen at gunpoint - California, Arizona, New Mexico, and
>>>>>>> Texas.
>>>>>> Native Americans...
>>>>> Not quite. We bought some, and traded for some. It started with
>>>>> Manhattan Island. Those fast talking smoothies sold us land no one
>>>>> had
>>>>> ever occupied. The sellers lived nowhere near.
>>>> Yea, the sellers didn't even own the land....another tribe did.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>
> Sorta. At least that's what the greedy gringos claimed.
>
>
>
>
Apparently, you know damn little about Native Americans, their history,
and their early life style. Must be part of the history books you slept
through.
Seth Hammond
> In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
>> run.
>
> Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>
> But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of the
> residents...
They all get paid cash under the table for picking onions, right?
HeyBub
>>
>> Sorta. At least that's what the greedy gringos claimed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Apparently, you know damn little about Native Americans, their
> history, and their early life style. Must be part of the history
> books you slept through.
Kinda hard to know much about Indians. They didn't have a written language.
Heck, they didn't even have the wheel. And certainly hadn't figured out how
to make alcohol!
Seth Hammond
>>
>> "Long Ranger" <lorpkins@earthlink .net> wrote in message
>> news:MYOdnTfOyJRxCH7V...@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> news:0KWdnRlfzrjHHX7V...@posted.telecomsupplyinc...
>>>>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6kg4leF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> In article <6kg2vaF...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> occupied by a horde of Mexicans.
>>
>> Again.
>>
>> Who was here first, Indians or gringos?
>
Dead wrong.
>
> So your question makes little sense. Nor does it matter who was here
> first, only who currently controls the land.
>
Might makes Right?
Was the Third Reich right?
Is Israel right?
Does this come under Manifest Destiny?
Seth Hammond
> In article <6khpdmF...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > And now they live in small areas of the desert.
>>
>> Unless of course there's oil/gold/uranium or anything else the gringos
>> want
>> there.
>
Except for the oil/gold/uranium/timber/coal/natural gas.
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > They are no dummies tho'. The smarter ones with business acumen are
>> > actually doing quite well now.
>>
>> Not only the smart ones. Casinos are a leveling influence.
>
> I guess so.
> They do a lot more than just own casinos, even tho' that is a big money
> maker. Ever driven thru Arizona and New Mexico near the reservations?
> They know all about Tourist Traps. ;-)
Nothing like the boom days of the 30's thru 50's. Thank the railroads for
that.
Then there was Route 66....
Hornblende
Little Seth is long on brag and short on actual education.
Seth Hammond
> In article <6khpl8F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > Native Americans did not know the concept of land ownership.
>> >>
>> >
>> > And constantly violated them... But that was a lifestyle.
>> > --
>>
>> Had there been no violations there woulda been no need for boundaries -
>> but
>> you knew that.
>>
>> Such violations were their pro football.
>
> <lol> True.
>
> Gladiatorial games.
> --
Much was just touching an enemy with a coup stick. Then the English started
paying bounty for French scalps. Then the French reciprocated. The
butchery was on. Soon most bounty scalps were black - as most came from
Indians....
Seth Hammond
> In article <48e3b78f$0$19509$7836...@newsrazor.net>,
> Hornblende <st...@gem.quality> wrote:
>
>> > Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone,
>>
>>
>> Drop fucking dead you stupid asshole.
>
> Oh now THAT was a clever argument...
>
> :-P
Horndog is notorious for that. (He's dumb as a rock)
Seth Hammond
>> In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>>> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the long
>>> run.
>>
>> Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>>
>> But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of the
>> residents...
>
> residency.......
Yeah right.
Seth Hammond
> In article <H7qdnXhTHOOaIn7V...@earthlink.com>,
> "Scout" <4g...@earthlink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> news:ompomelet-EF0E6...@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <6khnr6F...@mid.individual.net>,
>> > "Seth Hammond" <lesliese...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mexicans have as much right to be here as anyone, and more than most.
>> >> Borders are merely political constructs of little importance in the
>> >> long
>> >> run.
>> >
>> > Yes, they do indeed have a right to be here. On that we can agree.
>> >
>> > But they also have the obligation to pay taxes just like the rest of
>> > the
>> > residents...
>>
>> And to obey the laws.....including those concerning immigration, entry
>> and
>> residency.......
>
>
> can it be?
> --
The average wait is 15 years, but it can take twice that.
What the racist filth don't like to admit is the many, many illegals here
from countries all over the world. IT alone has brought in thousands.
I wouldn't bet on any of your cow orker's legal status.
ThreeLegends
> Kinda hard to know much about Indians. They didn't have a written language.
> Heck, they didn't even have the wheel. And certainly hadn't figured out how
> to make alcohol!
Kinda hard to know about you, as yer one stump stupid idiot that knows
NOTHING about "Indians/AKA Native Americans" !