Fox News again accused of airing misleading video
Lookout
"For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
fire for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some
people to charge that the cable news network is intentionally
misleading its audience, while Fox claims a "production error."
Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett
mentioned that a Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand
Rapids, Michigan had a massive turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling
and waving Palin amidst a throng of fans, Jarrett noted that the
former Republican vice-presidential candidate is "continuing to draw
huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,'' adding that
the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to
us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."
However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin
campaign rally. In response to the minor uproar that arose after clips
of Jarrett's report hit the Internet, Fox senior vice-president of
news Michael Clemente issued an initial statement saying, "This was a
production error in which the copy editor changed a script and didn't
alert the control room to update the video."
So...the 2nd time in a week. Is it just another mistake or is this
just the latest in a long line of attempts are skewing news stories.
Oh...and this time it happened ON THE FAUX NEWS segment and not on one
of the opinionator's shows.
IMHO when they go back and look (and they will) they are going to find
that Faux Commentary has been doing this for years.
Jim Alder
@4ax.com:
And IMHO you're a clueless dimwit. It would, of course, be a simple enough
thing to determine if there was a deliberate attempt to deceive. Just look at
the actual tape of the event to see if indeed there was a large crowd as
described. But of course your ilk's true goal is to destroy the credibility of
the best and most popular news channel.
--
So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far?
Peter Franks
That's HUGE news. Thanks for posting!!!
Klaus Schadenfreude
I remember the vehement protests by Lookout every time CBS, NBC, NBC,
and CNN aired footage of full auto weapons while they were running a
story about "assault weapons."
Oh wait, he didn't utter a peep, did he?
Jim Alder
news:78ubg599vbrlo9b5v...@4ax.com:
Not that I remember, but it's not like his opinions are all that memorable.
Lookout
wrote:
They LIED. That's what the story is about. And it was the 2nd
deliberate attempt in a week to make a story look bigger than it was.
Lookout
Why would I? It didn't happen.
Jim Alder
news:blrdg5duk11mohbh2...@4ax.com:
Or they have a screwup on staff. I wasn't really asking YOU if the real
footage they intended to show was all that different from what they claim was
inadvertently shown because, as I said, you're a clueless dimwit.
Bottom line: You don't know if they lied or not. It's much more likely
that the leftwing is watching them like a hawk for any little mistake like
this, just like they're doing to Sarah Palin's book. Ignoring content and
trying to find lies where none exist.
After eight years of the Clinton administration, having their president
waggle his finger in their faces and saying "Now you listen to me" and lying
his ass off while they defended him, suddenly they became pathologically
sensitive about lying.
RD (The Sandman)
news:blrdg5duk11mohbh2...@4ax.com:
Damn, they lied....just like the footage of full auto when describing
assault weapons......I remember your outrage at that..... ;)
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
RD (The Sandman)
news:cnrdg5psmqip31526...@4ax.com:
That's his point. The footage was aired and you didn't say a word. No
complaint at all from you on truthfulness and that it wasn't displayed.
Lookout
wrote:
>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
He's pissed because I DIDN'T see a news report. How fucking whiney can
you get?
Lookout
wrote:
YOU don't know either. Without the facts YOU'RE the clueless dimwit.
The only fact we have is they lied again.
>
> Bottom line: You don't know if they lied or not.
Wrong. We do know the added in footage that was not taken at that
time. That's lying.
>It's much more likely
>that the leftwing is watching them like a hawk for any little mistake like
>this, just like they're doing to Sarah Palin's book. Ignoring content and
>trying to find lies where none exist.
Wrong again.
> After eight years of the Clinton administration, having their president
>waggle his finger in their faces and saying "Now you listen to me" and lying
>his ass off while they defended him, suddenly they became pathologically
>sensitive about lying.
This isn't about Clinton. Stop trying to change the subject. Faux
Commentary got caught lying twice in one week. I have no doubt there
are staffers from several shows going back over Faux Commentary
reports. This isn't the last of this subject but they are on notice to
clean up their act.
But they won't. Conservatives lie.
Lookout
Didn't see it. So now you're mad that I didn't see a news story? Just
how insecure are you? AHAHAHAHAHH I can't believe you've sunk to
this..to get mad at me because of a news report I didn't see!
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA You guys kill me. Thanks for letting me know just how
pissed you are at the world.
Be warned..the world is changing. The tide is turning. Just as I
predicted.
Lookout
How could I comment if I didn't see it? Or at you implying I did see?
Is that it? Any proof that I saw it?
Man..you idiots are really losing it.
Jim Alder
@4ax.com:
You did comment. You said it didn't happen. Is that your reality? If you
didn't see it, it didn't happen?
Jim Alder
news:eq4eg51hm69hksfjt...@4ax.com:
Oh, it could be worse. He could shriek that Fox lied because they screwed up
a couple videos.
Oh, wait. That would be you.
Bill Smith
wrote:
There's certainly no excuse for using misleading video footage, but
when Fox does it, it makes headlines and when the rest of the
mainstream media does it there's hardly a squeak. Every freakin' thing
60 minutes does about guns, for example.
Bill Smith
Jim Alder
The only fact we have is that you obviously don't know what a fact or a
lie is. I just said we don't know if the footage they showed WAS deceptive
(ie, did it misrepresent the crowds at the signing) and you said I didn't know
EITHER, meaning you agree you don't know. So you don't know if they lied,
EITHER. You call it another 'deliberate attempt' but you don't know if it is
or not. And since you refused to take my suggestion, I looked myself.
www.washingtonpost.com
Thousands line up in Michigan for Palin
The cameras, the handlers, the fans -- it's like 2008 never ended
Here's an actual video of the event. The article says there were 2000 there.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/video/2009/11/18/VI2009111803079.html
>> Bottom line: You don't know if they lied or not.
>
> Wrong. We do know the added in footage that was not taken at that
> time. That's lying.
No, numb nuts. That's a 'mistake'. Unless they did it deliberately, which
they say they didn't and, according to the actual video, they had no reason to
fake one.
>>It's much more likely
>>that the leftwing is watching them like a hawk for any little mistake like
>>this, just like they're doing to Sarah Palin's book. Ignoring content and
>>trying to find lies where none exist.
>
> Wrong again.
Kiss my ass again.
>> After eight years of the Clinton administration, having their president
>>waggle his finger in their faces and saying "Now you listen to me" and lying
>>his ass off while they defended him, suddenly they became pathologically
>>sensitive about lying.
>
> This isn't about Clinton. Stop trying to change the subject.
I'M NOT CHANGING THE FUCKING SUBJECT YOU CLUELESS CRETIN! IT'S ABOUT YOU
ASSHOLES AND YOUR HYPOCRISY.
> Faux
> Commentary got caught lying twice in one week. I have no doubt there
> are staffers from several shows going back over Faux Commentary
> reports. This isn't the last of this subject but they are on notice to
> clean up their act.
Oh, you get more ridiculous every post. Nobody is 'on notice' from you
petty little nitpicking fools. Stop puffing up your hollow little chest and
pretending you're taking anyone on. You just sound like an idiot.
> But they won't. Conservatives lie.
Kiss off.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:eq4eg51hm69hksfjt...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:07:36 -0600, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:78ubg599vbrlo9b5v...@4ax.com:
>>>> I remember the vehement protests by Lookout every time CBS, NBC, NBC, and
>>>> CNN aired footage of full auto weapons while they were running a story
>about
>>>> "assault weapons."
>>>>
>>>> Oh wait, he didn't utter a peep, did he?
>>>
>>> Not that I remember, but it's not like his opinions are all that
>memorable.
>>
>> He's pissed because I DIDN'T see a news report. How fucking whiney can
>> you get?
>
> Oh, it could be worse. He could shriek that Fox lied because they screwed up
>a couple videos.
>
> Oh, wait. That would be you.
[chuckle] I love it when a plan comes together.
RD (The Sandman)
news:625eg5l7gct4sg5oj...@4ax.com:
Yes, it is. Here take a look at the results of a Gallup poll on how
Americans describe themselves:
40% describe themselves as conservatives (UP from 38% last year)
9% call themselves "very" conservative
35% describe themselves as moderate
21% call themselves liberal
5% call themselves "very" liberal.
Now to bring this topic in line on guns since I post from TPG:
Should gun laws be more strict?
1990 78% - yes
2000 62% - yes
2009 44% - yes
Source: USA Today snapshot.
Now, let's hear your claim again......oh, yes, the tide is turning. That
is true but not in the direction you want. ;)
RD (The Sandman)
news:i75eg5tokr4cj7s37...@4ax.com:
You should have......it has been all over the tube for several years.
Next time your local station is discussing assault weapons see what kind
of silhouette is shown or if the footage is from Iraq or Afghanistan on
the arms being shot.
> Man..you idiots are really losing it.
You claim to be up on stuff. Perhaps, you should pay closer attention.
RD (The Sandman)
news:Xns9CC9B698013F7...@216.196.97.142:
In his defense, if he didn't see any of that, he truly couldn't comment
on it. The question becomes, how could he have missed it?
Klaus Schadenfreude
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:i75eg5tokr4cj7s37...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:44:06 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
>> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:cnrdg5psmqip31526...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:04:59 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>I remember the vehement protests by Lookout every time CBS, NBC, NBC,
>>>>>and CNN aired footage of full auto weapons while they were running a
>>>>>story about "assault weapons."
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh wait, he didn't utter a peep, did he?
>>>>
>>>> Why would I? It didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That's his point. The footage was aired and you didn't say a word. No
>>>complaint at all from you on truthfulness and that it wasn't displayed.
>>
>> How could I comment if I didn't see it? Or at you implying I did see?
>> Is that it? Any proof that I saw it?
>
>You should have......it has been all over the tube for several years.
>Next time your local station is discussing assault weapons see what kind
>of silhouette is shown or if the footage is from Iraq or Afghanistan on
>the arms being shot.
>
>> Man..you idiots are really losing it.
>
>You claim to be up on stuff. Perhaps, you should pay closer attention.
Funny how *we're* supposed to be keeping tabs on Fox News but *he*
claims not to have seen the HUNDREDS of times the other networks air
propaganda.
What's good for the goose.....
Klaus Schadenfreude
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Heh heh. Lookout reminds me of the guy who claims he can make the tide
go out... if it takes him 12 and a half hours.....
Lookout
wrote:
I didn't comment. You're lying.
Or you can prove I did see it.
But you can't..you're lying again.
"Is that your reality? If you didn't see it, it didn't happen?"
Nah..that's you whining again. I've never said that.
Lookout
wrote:
"shriek"? Nah..I never shriek. Faux lied and got caught. Period
> Oh, wait. That would be you.
Nope..wrong again.
Lookout
Jim Alder
@4ax.com:
Fucking idiot.
Gray Ghost
news:Xns9CCA71BC0...@216.196.97.130:
I kept telling him it wasn't the tide but the undertow. I guess he won't
listen until he drowns.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
RD (The Sandman)
Yeah, I am waiting for him to figure out it is like a boomerang....it
will always come back.
Lookout
wrote:
Still waiting for you to prove I saw the report.
Lookout
The tide is turning and you know it.
Just as I predicted.
Jim Alder
news:rfjmg5t5anrrvu97j...@4ax.com:
Still waiting to hear you explain your claim that it didn't happen.
Lookout
wrote:
I never claimed the report didn't happen. I never saw it.
You need a new lie.
Jim Alder
news:k2tmg5tdp780hvida...@4ax.com:
>>>> Fucking idiot.
>>>
>>> Still waiting for you to prove I saw the report.
>>
>> Still waiting to hear you explain your claim that it didn't happen.
>
> I never claimed the report didn't happen. I never saw it.
> You need a new lie.
Don't call me a liar, asshole. It's right at the top of this post.
Lookout
wrote:
I didn't "utter a peep" because I never saw it.
IOW it didn't happen. I wasn't there to see it.
Got it now dumbass?
Jim Alder
@4ax.com:
I got it days ago when I asked you; "You did comment. You said it didn't
happen. Is that your reality? If you didn't see it, it didn't happen?"
Klaus Schadenfreude
Heh he, I may have to replace Timmys name with "Lookout."
______
Timmy's Debate Technique:
http://klausschadenfreude.110mb.com/timmy.htm
RD (The Sandman)
news:ahjmg5pk3jmh2fgp5...@4ax.com:
But as noted, not in the direction you want. ;)
Gray Ghost
I'm going to put Lookout in the Zipperhead Club. But we need a special
committee for the retarded parrot types.
RD (The Sandman)
news:Xns9CCD847791FBCWe...@216.196.97.142:
> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCD66D56...@216.196.97.130:
>
>> Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:ahjmg5pk3jmh2fgp5...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:31:15 -0600, grey_ghost471-
newsg...@yahoo.com
;)
Lookout
wrote:
One more time. I NEVER saw the report. I didn't know it existed.
You'll have to whine something new or I'll have to kill the thread.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Sure it is. The public doesn't pass laws.
Gray Ghost
news:kehqg5hqkh3u2p2i2...@4ax.com:
Why don't you kill yourself instead. it's not like someone would miss you.
Hey, take a page from Sparkman, kill yourself and try to make it look like a
Republican did it.
RD (The Sandman)
news:kehqg5hqkh3u2p2i2...@4ax.com:
YOu may drop out but you can't kill the thread and we will simply talk
about you. ;)
RD (The Sandman)
news:3hhqg5lll91ajdilo...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:06:35 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:ahjmg5pk3jmh2fgp5...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:31:15 -0600, grey_ghost471-
newsg...@yahoo.com
Neither will Obama for quite some time.
Gray Ghost
Apparently he thinks Congress should pass laws that the public opposes.
RD (The Sandman)
I guess I should be polite, but he tends to keep hanging on the same
point even when it is wrong. It is really too bad, since from time to
time, he does make good points and seems to understand
stuff.....unfortunately, that is not the preponderance of the time.
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
Presidents don't pass laws you idiot.
Lookout
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
>Hey, take a page from Sparkman, kill yourself and try to make it look like a
>Republican did it.
AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
Fuck you're an idiot. This is the Internet you dolt. How can you let
anyone make you this mad?
Get a fucking life
Lookout
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
AHAHAHA Which is just what you little immature punks do, isn't it?
Who cares what you say?
Ok..I'll kill the thread so you can talk about me.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
Lookout
End of discussion.
Jim Alder
news:kehqg5hqkh3u2p2i2...@4ax.com:
I don't know how you'll kill a thread when you're barely doing anything in
it to begin with.
Jim Alder
news:98hrg5lqhjcc8a86c...@4ax.com:
ABC News: "An optimistic President Obama signed a massive economic stimulus
bill in Denver this afternoon, enacting a law he has said is necessary to
avoid catastrophe."
(CBS/AP) "President George W. Bush said Saturday he vetoed legislation that
would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods such as waterboarding
to break suspected terrorists because it would end practices that have
prevented attacks. ... But based on the margin of passage in each chamber, it
would be difficult for the Democratic-controlled Congress to turn back the
veto."
Gray Ghost
news:iahrg513j04pboka9...@4ax.com:
I'm not mad. It's just like to spare the rest of the world your inanity.
RD (The Sandman)
RD (The Sandman)
news:iahrg513j04pboka9...@4ax.com:
Oooops, here you are again. Already you forgot that you dropped the
thread......oh, my.....
RD (The Sandman)
news:98hrg5lqhjcc8a86c...@4ax.com:
No shit. So what did I say that was incorrect, you idiot? ;)
Klaus Schadenfreude
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> You'll have to whine something new or I'll have to kill the thread.
TRANSLATION: "Run away."
>>>YOu may drop out but you can't kill the thread and we will simply talk
>>>about you. ;)
>>
>> AHAHAHA Which is just what you little immature punks do, isn't it?
>> Who cares what you say?
>>
>> Ok..I'll kill the thread so you can talk about me.
>> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
>>
>
>OK ;)
Poor Lookout- he really *is* a lonely little fellow, isn't he?
Sid Vicious
Nah.
Lookout has "He", "Itself", and "His jar of petrolem jelly" once he sits
on his hand to make it numb.
However,"TMT" doesn't correspond with him anymore.
Jim Alder
news:Xns9CCF67E62...@216.196.97.130:
> Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:iahrg513j04pboka9...@4ax.com:
>
>> AHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
>> Fuck you're an idiot. This is the Internet you dolt. How can you let
>> anyone make you this mad?
>> Get a fucking life
>>
>
> Oooops, here you are again. Already you forgot that you dropped the
> thread......oh, my.....
Maybe it bounced.