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Leroy Johnson
Feb 26, 2021, 4:49:30 PM2/26/21
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Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
Civilization.
Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
bricks.
It's the truth. Look it up.
Civilization.
Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
bricks.
It's the truth. Look it up.
Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 5:01:44 PM2/26/21
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headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
--
Joel Crump
Leroy Johnson
Feb 26, 2021, 5:08:58 PM2/26/21
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Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>
>>Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>Civilization.
>>
>>Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
>>bricks.
>>
>>It's the truth. Look it up.
>
>
> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
<https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass-
thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%20and,grass%
2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
"Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
change shape.
A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that the
"armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until investigations
were over."
news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>
>>Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>Civilization.
>>
>>Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
>>bricks.
>>
>>It's the truth. Look it up.
>
>
> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
<https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass-
thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%20and,grass%
2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
"Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
change shape.
A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that the
"armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until investigations
were over."
pothead
Feb 26, 2021, 5:11:55 PM2/26/21
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Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 5:19:40 PM2/26/21
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Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>
>Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
>
><https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass-
>thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%20and,grass%
>2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
>
>"Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
>group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
>change shape.
>
>A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that the
>"armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until investigations
>were over."
And Europe is supposed to have been so much more advanced? You don't
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>
>Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
>
><https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass-
>thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%20and,grass%
>2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
>
>"Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
>group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
>change shape.
>
>A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that the
>"armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until investigations
>were over."
have to go back all that far in history to see white people being
barbarian, superstitious nutjobs.
--
Joel Crump
FromTheRafters
Feb 26, 2021, 5:38:28 PM2/26/21
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Leroy Johnson expressed precisely :
> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> Civilization.
>
> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> bricks.
Someone has to produce bricks for whitey's civilization building.
> Civilization.
>
> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> bricks.
Leroy Johnson
Feb 26, 2021, 5:40:07 PM2/26/21
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Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0tsi3g5ksihsit4fh...@4ax.com:
You miss the point.
The so called cradle of civilization is living in grass huts and
arresting goats for car theft TODAY, IN THE PRESENT.
Europe managed to advance themselves and if it wasn't for the white
man, we would all be living in grass shacks and arresting goats for
car theft.
The niggers love to say the white man stole all the technology from
Africa and even if true, how does one steal knowledge?
Face it, the niggers destroy and break things.
Take a look at any nigger hood and see for yourself.
The city pavement ape walking like a monkey, dragging it's knuckles
on the pavement and with it's pants falling down is a throwback to
caveman days.
Why is literally every black community a slum?
Crime.
Baby mommas.
Welfare sucking leeches.
Why is that?
news:0tsi3g5ksihsit4fh...@4ax.com:
The so called cradle of civilization is living in grass huts and
arresting goats for car theft TODAY, IN THE PRESENT.
Europe managed to advance themselves and if it wasn't for the white
man, we would all be living in grass shacks and arresting goats for
car theft.
The niggers love to say the white man stole all the technology from
Africa and even if true, how does one steal knowledge?
Face it, the niggers destroy and break things.
Take a look at any nigger hood and see for yourself.
The city pavement ape walking like a monkey, dragging it's knuckles
on the pavement and with it's pants falling down is a throwback to
caveman days.
Why is literally every black community a slum?
Crime.
Baby mommas.
Welfare sucking leeches.
Why is that?
pothead
Feb 26, 2021, 5:41:59 PM2/26/21
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I was thinking the same thing!
I just thought the goat story was hilarious.
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 5:48:19 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:08:54 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
<XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>
>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>> Civilization.
>>>
>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
>>> bricks.
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>
>>
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>
> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
> killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
I am sure Carroll will be jumping right in to call out your bigotry.
Right, Carroll?
Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>
>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>> Civilization.
>>>
>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
>>> bricks.
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>
>>
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>
> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
> killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
Right, Carroll?
Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 5:48:37 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:01:39 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com>:
Did not even have to look to know that would be the case.
<vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com>:
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 5:49:22 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 2:49:25 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
<XnsACDDAB25...@46.165.242.75>:
> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> Civilization.
Then why were there complaints about piles of bricks just a few months ago in
the USA, which is predominantly white?
<XnsACDDAB25...@46.165.242.75>:
> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> Civilization.
the USA, which is predominantly white?
rbowman
Feb 26, 2021, 5:49:36 PM2/26/21
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about 100,000 years ago.
rbowman
Feb 26, 2021, 5:50:36 PM2/26/21
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D
Feb 26, 2021, 5:50:56 PM2/26/21
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC), Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>pile of bricks
"erat autem terra labii unius et sermonum eorundem
to be but the earth of lip one and speech the same.
cumque proficiscerentur de oriente invenerunt campum
together they proceeded from the east and found a plain
in terra Sennaar et habitaverunt in eo dixitque
in the land of Shinar and did inhabit there. And so they said
alter ad proximum suum venite faciamus lateres
to each other Near to this proximity let us go to make brick
et coquamus eos igni habueruntque lateres pro saxis et
and burn them ignited. And they had brick for stone and
bitumen pro cemento et dixerunt venite faciamus nobis civitatem
bitumen for cement. And they said let us go to build us a city
et turrem cuius culmen pertingat ad caelum et
and tower whose culmination it will be reaching up to heaven. and
celebremus nomen nostrum antequam dividamur
let us celebrate the name of ours before we are divided
in universas terras descendit autem dominus
upon universally the earth. Decended but the Dominant one
ut videret civitatem et turrem quam aedificabant filii
to see the city and the tower which were built by the sons
Adam et dixit ecce unus est populus et unum
of Adam, and said behold, one to be the populace and of one
labium omnibus coeperuntque hoc facere nec
lip wholly. and began they this to do, and not
desistent a cogitationibus suis donec eas opere
they will desist from cogitation theirs as long as that work
conpleant venite igitur descendamus et confundamus
they are completing. let us go then to descend and counfound
ibi linguam eorum ut non audiat
there the language of them in order that not they are audient of
unusquisque vocem proximi sui atque ita divisit
each other's voice in proximity to them. and thus divided
eos dominus ex illo loco in universas
them the Dominant one out of that location upon universally
terras et cessaverunt aedificare civitatem
the earth, and so they ceased from building the city.
et idcirco vocatum est nomen eius Babel quia
and therefore called to be the name of it Babel, because
ibi confusum est labium universae terrae
in that place confused to be the lip universally the earth
et inde dispersit eos dominus super
and from thence dispersed them the Dominant one over
faciem cunctarum regionum"
the face of the entire region.
--Genesis 11:1-9, editio Vulgata
>pile of bricks
"erat autem terra labii unius et sermonum eorundem
to be but the earth of lip one and speech the same.
cumque proficiscerentur de oriente invenerunt campum
together they proceeded from the east and found a plain
in terra Sennaar et habitaverunt in eo dixitque
in the land of Shinar and did inhabit there. And so they said
alter ad proximum suum venite faciamus lateres
to each other Near to this proximity let us go to make brick
et coquamus eos igni habueruntque lateres pro saxis et
and burn them ignited. And they had brick for stone and
bitumen pro cemento et dixerunt venite faciamus nobis civitatem
bitumen for cement. And they said let us go to build us a city
et turrem cuius culmen pertingat ad caelum et
and tower whose culmination it will be reaching up to heaven. and
celebremus nomen nostrum antequam dividamur
let us celebrate the name of ours before we are divided
in universas terras descendit autem dominus
upon universally the earth. Decended but the Dominant one
ut videret civitatem et turrem quam aedificabant filii
to see the city and the tower which were built by the sons
Adam et dixit ecce unus est populus et unum
of Adam, and said behold, one to be the populace and of one
labium omnibus coeperuntque hoc facere nec
lip wholly. and began they this to do, and not
desistent a cogitationibus suis donec eas opere
they will desist from cogitation theirs as long as that work
conpleant venite igitur descendamus et confundamus
they are completing. let us go then to descend and counfound
ibi linguam eorum ut non audiat
there the language of them in order that not they are audient of
unusquisque vocem proximi sui atque ita divisit
each other's voice in proximity to them. and thus divided
eos dominus ex illo loco in universas
them the Dominant one out of that location upon universally
terras et cessaverunt aedificare civitatem
the earth, and so they ceased from building the city.
et idcirco vocatum est nomen eius Babel quia
and therefore called to be the name of it Babel, because
ibi confusum est labium universae terrae
in that place confused to be the lip universally the earth
et inde dispersit eos dominus super
and from thence dispersed them the Dominant one over
faciem cunctarum regionum"
the face of the entire region.
--Genesis 11:1-9, editio Vulgata
Leroy Johnson
Feb 26, 2021, 5:51:19 PM2/26/21
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Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:SUe_H.43220$y%1.4...@fx11.iad:
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:08:54 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
> <XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
>
>> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>>> Civilization.
>>>>
>>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile
>>>> of bricks.
>>>>
>>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>
>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the
>> demons.
>
> I am sure Carroll will be jumping right in to call out your
> bigotry.
>
> Right, Carroll?
>
> Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
>
Stating the facts is not bigotry.
Of course you know that which is why you snipped the links.
Carroll?
Who is that?
Is that some voice living in your head?
news:SUe_H.43220$y%1.4...@fx11.iad:
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:08:54 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
> <XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
>
>> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>>> Civilization.
>>>>
>>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile
>>>> of bricks.
>>>>
>>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>
>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the
>> demons.
>
> I am sure Carroll will be jumping right in to call out your
> bigotry.
>
> Right, Carroll?
>
> Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
>
Of course you know that which is why you snipped the links.
Carroll?
Who is that?
Is that some voice living in your head?
pothead
Feb 26, 2021, 5:55:29 PM2/26/21
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(From a classic B horror movie)
Laquish Simpkins
Feb 26, 2021, 5:59:57 PM2/26/21
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Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote in
news:XnsACDDB5A1...@46.165.242.75:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU BOY?
I GOTZ 8 KIDS AND WORK HARD TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE YOUNGINS. YOU
MUST BE SOME KIND OF RACIST AND SHEET.
news:XnsACDDB5A1...@46.165.242.75:
I GOTZ 8 KIDS AND WORK HARD TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE YOUNGINS. YOU
MUST BE SOME KIND OF RACIST AND SHEET.
Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 6:02:26 PM2/26/21
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--
Joel Crump
Idaho Homless Joe
Feb 26, 2021, 6:03:25 PM2/26/21
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In article <XnsACDDB718...@46.165.242.75>,
blacklady...@hotmoll.org says...
How many fathers do they have?
That's total.
1?
2?
5?
8?
Asking for a friend.
blacklady...@hotmoll.org says...
That's total.
1?
2?
5?
8?
Asking for a friend.
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 6:03:46 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:51:15 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
<XnsACDDB5A1...@46.165.242.75>:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:SUe_H.43220$y%1.4...@fx11.iad:
>
>> On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:08:54 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
>> <XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
>>
>>> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>>>> Civilization.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile
>>>>> of bricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>>
>>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the
>>> demons.
>>
>> I am sure Carroll will be jumping right in to call out your
>> bigotry.
>>
>> Right, Carroll?
>>
>> Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
>>
>
> Stating the facts is not bigotry.
But that is not relevant here. Your bigotry is.
And the fact that Carroll has been trying to deny his bigotry but will take
this as a chance to troll me, and not call you out, is very predictable.
<XnsACDDB5A1...@46.165.242.75>:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:SUe_H.43220$y%1.4...@fx11.iad:
>
>> On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:08:54 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
>> <XnsACDDAE73...@46.165.242.75>:
>>
>>> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:vsri3g9paiqqncbfn...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
>>>>> Civilization.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile
>>>>> of bricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the truth. Look it up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>>
>>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the
>>> demons.
>>
>> I am sure Carroll will be jumping right in to call out your
>> bigotry.
>>
>> Right, Carroll?
>>
>> Oh. Instead he will jump in to attack me. Count on it.
>>
>
> Stating the facts is not bigotry.
And the fact that Carroll has been trying to deny his bigotry but will take
this as a chance to troll me, and not call you out, is very predictable.
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 6:04:44 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 3:40:03 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
<XnsACDDB3BB...@46.165.242.75>:
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:0tsi3g5ksihsit4fh...@4ax.com:
>
>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>>
>>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
>>>
>>> <https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass->thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%
> 20and,grass%
>>> 2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
>>>
>>> "Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
>>> group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
>>> change shape.
>>>
>>> A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that
> the
>>> "armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until
> investigations
>>> were over."
>>
>>
>> And Europe is supposed to have been so much more advanced? You
> don't
>> have to go back all that far in history to see white people being
>> barbarian, superstitious nutjobs.
>
> You miss the point.
NOBODY with a brain missed the point of your bigotry.
<XnsACDDB3BB...@46.165.242.75>:
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:0tsi3g5ksihsit4fh...@4ax.com:
>
>> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa.
>>>
>>> Yea and to this very day they are still living in grass huts and
>>> killing people because they think they are posessed by the demons.
>>>
>>> <https://www.urbanafrica.net/news/93-houses-south-sudan-are-grass->thatched-mud-huts/#:~:text=The%20Ministry%20of%20Housing%
> 20and,grass%
>>> 2Dthatched%20mud%2Dhouses.>
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm
>>>
>>> "Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante
>>> group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to
>>> change shape.
>>>
>>> A police spokesman in Kwara State has been quoted as saying that
> the
>>> "armed robbery suspect" would remain in custody until
> investigations
>>> were over."
>>
>>
>> And Europe is supposed to have been so much more advanced? You
> don't
>> have to go back all that far in history to see white people being
>> barbarian, superstitious nutjobs.
>
> You miss the point.
Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 6:05:18 PM2/26/21
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>
>If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>about 100,000 years ago.
There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>
>If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>about 100,000 years ago.
varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
--
Joel Crump
Laquish Simpkins
Feb 26, 2021, 6:13:08 PM2/26/21
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Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:7jvi3gtco7h1ajc9r...@4ax.com:
YOU IS A SMART BOY.
OBAMA = BLACK = SMART
BIDEN = WHITE = MORON
news:7jvi3gtco7h1ajc9r...@4ax.com:
OBAMA = BLACK = SMART
BIDEN = WHITE = MORON
rbowman
Feb 26, 2021, 9:33:02 PM2/26/21
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than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
got the fuck out of Africa.
It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
rbowman
Feb 26, 2021, 9:34:49 PM2/26/21
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On 02/26/2021 04:13 PM, Laquish Simpkins wrote:
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:7jvi3gtco7h1ajc9r...@4ax.com:
>
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left
>>> Africa about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the
>> world, Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>
>
> YOU IS A SMART BOY.
> OBAMA = BLACK = SMART
> BIDEN = WHITE = MORON
>
Yeah, but Obama was half moron.
> Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:7jvi3gtco7h1ajc9r...@4ax.com:
>
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left
>>> Africa about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the
>> world, Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>
>
> YOU IS A SMART BOY.
> OBAMA = BLACK = SMART
> BIDEN = WHITE = MORON
>
rbowman
Feb 26, 2021, 9:40:14 PM2/26/21
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with Kristy Swanson.
Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 10:10:33 PM2/26/21
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>
>So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>got the fuck out of Africa.
>
>It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
>hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>
>So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>got the fuck out of Africa.
>
>It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
>hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
have one?
--
Joel Crump
Just Wondering
Feb 26, 2021, 10:24:46 PM2/26/21
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On 2/26/2021 8:10 PM, Joel wrote:
>
> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
> have one?
I thought 13A made having people born in Africa.
>
> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
> have one?
Joel
Feb 26, 2021, 10:30:48 PM2/26/21
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Just Wondering <J...@jw.com> wrote:
>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>> have one?
>
>I thought 13A made having people born in Africa.
Feel free to make sense.
>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>> have one?
>
>I thought 13A made having people born in Africa.
--
Joel Crump
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 11:34:21 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 8:10:29 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<5vdj3ghg19kt1r3p5...@4ax.com>:
I have heard of 8 year old prodigies getting PHds but people born *today*? I
find that hard to believe. :)
> Do you have one?
--
<5vdj3ghg19kt1r3p5...@4ax.com>:
find that hard to believe. :)
> Do you have one?
--
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 11:36:12 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:35:29 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<i9tpe7...@mid.individual.net>:
His whole thing about windmills causing cancer and his denial of climate
science was bad but when he started speaking of injecting bleach to deal with
a pandemic it ... uh... oh... yeah, that was Trump.
<i9tpe7...@mid.individual.net>:
science was bad but when he started speaking of injecting bleach to deal with
a pandemic it ... uh... oh... yeah, that was Trump.
Snit
Feb 26, 2021, 11:37:23 PM2/26/21
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On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>
>
> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> got the fuck out of Africa.
When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
> It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
the highest in the world.
<i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>
>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>
>
> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> got the fuck out of Africa.
> It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
the highest in the world.
Dechucka
Feb 26, 2021, 11:41:20 PM2/26/21
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argument that the US Constitution is all about limiting the powers of
the federal Gov. by saying what they can't do.
Reparations
Feb 27, 2021, 4:35:02 AM2/27/21
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In article <50k_H.26305$5%5.2...@fx19.iad>
> > It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> > hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
> the highest in the world.
If they are so smart they should be able to figure out why
everybody wants to kill them and change their behavior.
Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
> > On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
> >> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
> >>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
> >>>
> >>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
> >>> about 100,000 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
> >> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
> >> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
> >>
> >
> > So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> > than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> > being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> > got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
The IQ test doesn't go low enough to test Africans.
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
> > On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
> >> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
> >>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
> >>>
> >>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
> >>> about 100,000 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
> >> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
> >> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
> >>
> >
> > So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> > than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> > being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> > got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
> > It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> > hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
> the highest in the world.
everybody wants to kill them and change their behavior.
FromTheRafters
Feb 27, 2021, 5:06:49 AM2/27/21
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pothead was thinking very hard :
It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer John's Fritters. I recall
a garden of human heads in that movie. Okay, you probably had a
different movie in mind.
a garden of human heads in that movie. Okay, you probably had a
different movie in mind.
Pelosi National Guard
Feb 27, 2021, 6:25:02 AM2/27/21
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In article <QVe_H.38799$ik5....@fx07.iad>
fucking things at cops and windows.
Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 2:49:25 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
> <XnsACDDAB25...@46.165.242.75>:
>
> > Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> > Civilization.
>
> Then why were there complaints about piles of bricks just a few months ago in
> the USA, which is predominantly white?
Because white nigger lover Democrats were busy throwing the
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 2:49:25 PM MST, "Leroy Johnson" wrote
> <XnsACDDAB25...@46.165.242.75>:
>
> > Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> > Civilization.
>
> Then why were there complaints about piles of bricks just a few months ago in
> the USA, which is predominantly white?
fucking things at cops and windows.
Rick Martins
Feb 27, 2021, 9:36:58 AM2/27/21
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Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:50k_H.26305$5%5.2...@fx19.iad:
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also,
>>>>> your headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>
>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left
>>>> Africa about 100,000 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans".
>>> Intelligence varies from person to person in the same ways
>>> throughout the world, Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>
>>
>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more
>> intelligence than the average and there is such a thing as a
>> 'more intelligent human being'? Then, to use the collective, the
>> more intelligent human beings got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
>
>> It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
>> hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ
> is among the highest in the world.
So you've just admitted that some races are smarter than others.
Well done snit.
news:50k_H.26305$5%5.2...@fx19.iad:
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also,
>>>>> your headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>
>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left
>>>> Africa about 100,000 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans".
>>> Intelligence varies from person to person in the same ways
>>> throughout the world, Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>
>>
>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more
>> intelligence than the average and there is such a thing as a
>> 'more intelligent human being'? Then, to use the collective, the
>> more intelligent human beings got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
>
>> It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
>> hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ
> is among the highest in the world.
Well done snit.
pothead
Feb 27, 2021, 9:39:37 AM2/27/21
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Motel Hell
Steve Carroll
Feb 27, 2021, 10:58:17 AM2/27/21
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> Well done snit.
I *know* if I were to look I'd find posts of his that are diametrically
opposed to this claim. But given his stance on "racism", no one need
bother to see his blatant hypocrisy with the statement.
Peter Köhlmann
Feb 27, 2021, 11:01:44 AM2/27/21
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>> Stating the facts is not bigotry.
ancestors being rats) is just stating the obvious
FromTheRafters
Feb 27, 2021, 11:27:21 AM2/27/21
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pothead brought next idea :
Ah, I couldn't remember the name. Yes, a strange movie.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 1:43:48 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 7:36:55 AM MST, "Rick Martins" wrote
<XnsACDE61D1...@46.165.242.75>:
The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
"proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
<XnsACDE61D1...@46.165.242.75>:
and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
"proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 2:10:12 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 8:58:15 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<s1dq6n$uqg$4...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
Ah, the point went over you head, too. Maybe that is because liberals tend to
have higher IQs than do conservatives.
Are you seeing the issue yet?
Actually with the conservative / liberal split there is a better argument to
be made.
>> Well done snit.
>
> I *know* if I were to look I'd find posts of his that are diametrically
> opposed to this claim. But given his stance on "racism", no one need
> bother to see his blatant hypocrisy with the statement.
The point is those who use this type of nonsense ALWAYS look to those their
faulty thinking makes look worse than them, not better.
<s1dq6n$uqg$4...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
have higher IQs than do conservatives.
Are you seeing the issue yet?
Actually with the conservative / liberal split there is a better argument to
be made.
>> Well done snit.
>
> I *know* if I were to look I'd find posts of his that are diametrically
> opposed to this claim. But given his stance on "racism", no one need
> bother to see his blatant hypocrisy with the statement.
faulty thinking makes look worse than them, not better.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 2:50:41 PM2/27/21
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field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
doctor, not a doctorate)
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 2:54:15 PM2/27/21
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Articles of Confederation into The United States.
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much
is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have
had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to
exist.”
Lysander Spooner
Joel
Feb 27, 2021, 2:57:12 PM2/27/21
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>> have one?
>
>That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>doctor, not a doctorate)
The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>> have one?
>
>That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>doctor, not a doctorate)
There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
"race".
--
Joel Crump
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 2:59:13 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a race than
there are between races.
Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not even tied to
genetics.
<vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
there are between races.
Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not even tied to
genetics.
Tomas
Feb 27, 2021, 3:05:35 PM2/27/21
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Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>> Do you have one?
>>>
>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>
>>
>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>> people of any "race".
>
> Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a
> race than there are between races.
>
> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
> even tied to genetics.
Then why are niggers on average so stupid and why are Asians on
average so intelligent?
Outliers exist of course, but looking at averages.
http://niggermania.co/forum/
news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>> Do you have one?
>>>
>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>
>>
>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>> people of any "race".
>
> Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a
> race than there are between races.
>
> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
> even tied to genetics.
average so intelligent?
Outliers exist of course, but looking at averages.
http://niggermania.co/forum/
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 3:06:56 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 1:05:31 PM MST, "Tomas" wrote
<XnsACDE998...@46.165.242.75>:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>>> Do you have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>>> people of any "race".
>>
>> Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a
>> race than there are between races.
>>
>> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
>> even tied to genetics.
>
> Then why
A better focus for you would be why do you feel the need to lash out and be so
bigoted. What can you do to improve yourself? And you DO know it is wrong --
if you did not you would not use a sock to post such garbage.
<XnsACDE998...@46.165.242.75>:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>>> Do you have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>>> people of any "race".
>>
>> Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a
>> race than there are between races.
>>
>> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
>> even tied to genetics.
>
> Then why
bigoted. What can you do to improve yourself? And you DO know it is wrong --
if you did not you would not use a sock to post such garbage.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 3:32:40 PM2/27/21
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On 02/26/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>
>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>
>>
>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>> got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
Are you equating intelligence solely with an arbitrary measurement? For
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>
>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>
>>
>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>> got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
example, take the mtDNA haplogroups M and N.The theory is it they are
descendant of L3 and the parent groups of all mtDNA found outside of
Africa.
L1 is primarily found in Pygmies, and L2 is prevalent in sub-equatorial
Africans as well as African Americans.
The descendants of M and N are spread worldwide and arguably have
adapted to a far wider range of conditions and achieved higher levels of
civilizations than the L2 lineage.
Are they more intelligent? More adventuresome? Luckier?
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
> the highest in the world.
curriculum' program, sort of a proto-AP, and many of my classmates were
Ashkenazi Jews. They were smart. However, I'm the one who had the
highest NYS Regents Scholarship score, National Merit Scholarship score,
and SAT scores. I'll admit that surprised many people since I was a
chronic underachiever. Still am, living proof that paper intelligence
does not necessarily correlate with performance.
However that is a good argument for positive eugenics, at least in
western Europe. A close cohort that emphasizes education and doesn't
interbreed with goyim can do well. I find it ironic that many liberal
Jews promote dysgenic policies counter to what brought success to their
community.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 3:40:56 PM2/27/21
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closely associated with Ashenazi Jews. Low intelligence and a tendency
to violence is not a genetic disorder associated with some Africans.
Sociobiologists have been shouted down with emotional arguments by the
extreme environmentalists of the Boas school. As genetic research
advances I wonder how many will 'believe the science'?
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 4:11:04 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 1:41:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<i9vp2l...@mid.individual.net>:
Yes, tied to the hexosaminidase subunit alpha (HEXA) gene. Lots of research on
it:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=hexosaminidase+subunit+alpha+tay-sachs&btnG=
> Low intelligence and a tendency
> to violence is not a genetic disorder associated with some Africans.
What gene is that tied to? What is the prevalence?
> Sociobiologists have been shouted down with emotional arguments by the
> extreme environmentalists of the Boas school. As genetic research
> advances I wonder how many will 'believe the science'?
Point to the peer reviewed studies of this gene.
<i9vp2l...@mid.individual.net>:
it:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=hexosaminidase+subunit+alpha+tay-sachs&btnG=
> Low intelligence and a tendency
> to violence is not a genetic disorder associated with some Africans.
> Sociobiologists have been shouted down with emotional arguments by the
> extreme environmentalists of the Boas school. As genetic research
> advances I wonder how many will 'believe the science'?
pothead
Feb 27, 2021, 4:11:50 PM2/27/21
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Intelligence as well as physically which ties into athletically as well.
There is an environmental component that needs to be included though and
that is where it becomes complex. Mainly upbringing.
And of course there are outliers on all sides.
For example, snit claims to be an Ashkenazi Jew and he is a complete idiot so there
is a perfect example of an outlier.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 4:25:21 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 1:33:17 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<i9voj5...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/26/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>>>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>>>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>>> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>>> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>>> got the fuck out of Africa.
>>
>> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
>
> Are you equating intelligence solely with an arbitrary measurement?
Because that is really what it correlated best with -- how well you will do on
other IQ tests. It does not correlate well with how well you will do in
school, work, etc.
> For
> example, take the mtDNA haplogroups M and N.The theory is it they are
> descendant of L3 and the parent groups of all mtDNA found outside of
> Africa.
>
> L1 is primarily found in Pygmies, and L2 is prevalent in sub-equatorial
> Africans as well as African Americans.
>
> The descendants of M and N are spread worldwide and arguably have
> adapted to a far wider range of conditions and achieved higher levels of
> civilizations than the L2 lineage.
Much of how well a society does is based on the climate and resources they
have.
> Are they more intelligent? More adventuresome? Luckier?
Or have a better climate and better resources.
>> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
>> the highest in the world.
>
> Some are, most aren't.
The average is... but my point is, really, WHO CARES? But those who are racist
often will point to groups who do LESS well than they do on such tests but
almost never to groups who do better than the groups they are in. That,
really, was the point.
> In high school I was in the 'enriched
> curriculum' program, sort of a proto-AP, and many of my classmates were
> Ashkenazi Jews. They were smart. However, I'm the one who had the
> highest NYS Regents Scholarship score, National Merit Scholarship score,
> and SAT scores. I'll admit that surprised many people since I was a
> chronic underachiever. Still am, living proof that paper intelligence
> does not necessarily correlate with performance.
Right: IQ is a poor indicator of much of anything other than at the extremes.
For most people it mostly just says how well you will do on future IQ tests.
Even then you can be trained to do better. When getting my psych degree I took
many... since then based on an atypical form of dysautonomia and an associated
panic disorder I have taken them or similar ones again. Based on the those who
make the tests I am not a valid subject because I have studied them (even if
not in depth) and I tend to very well on them. This is as much tied to my
knowing the tests as it is to anything about my inherent intelligence. I am
not putting myself down -- I am not claiming to not be intelligent -- bit the
testing is of limited value and the comparing even less so.
> However that is a good argument for positive eugenics, at least in
> western Europe. A close cohort that emphasizes education and doesn't
> interbreed with goyim can do well. I find it ironic that many liberal
> Jews promote dysgenic policies counter to what brought success to their
> community.
I have seen a push in the Jewish community to "keep the faith" -- to marry
within the religion and the like. I have not seen where the push is to make
sure it is someone who has an Ashkenazi heritage.
<i9voj5...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/26/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/26/2021 04:05 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
>>>>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
>>>>> about 100,000 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
>>>> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
>>>> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
>>> than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
>>> being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
>>> got the fuck out of Africa.
>>
>> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
>
> Are you equating intelligence solely with an arbitrary measurement?
other IQ tests. It does not correlate well with how well you will do in
school, work, etc.
> For
> example, take the mtDNA haplogroups M and N.The theory is it they are
> descendant of L3 and the parent groups of all mtDNA found outside of
> Africa.
>
> L1 is primarily found in Pygmies, and L2 is prevalent in sub-equatorial
> Africans as well as African Americans.
>
> The descendants of M and N are spread worldwide and arguably have
> adapted to a far wider range of conditions and achieved higher levels of
> civilizations than the L2 lineage.
have.
> Are they more intelligent? More adventuresome? Luckier?
>> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
>> the highest in the world.
>
> Some are, most aren't.
often will point to groups who do LESS well than they do on such tests but
almost never to groups who do better than the groups they are in. That,
really, was the point.
> In high school I was in the 'enriched
> curriculum' program, sort of a proto-AP, and many of my classmates were
> Ashkenazi Jews. They were smart. However, I'm the one who had the
> highest NYS Regents Scholarship score, National Merit Scholarship score,
> and SAT scores. I'll admit that surprised many people since I was a
> chronic underachiever. Still am, living proof that paper intelligence
> does not necessarily correlate with performance.
For most people it mostly just says how well you will do on future IQ tests.
Even then you can be trained to do better. When getting my psych degree I took
many... since then based on an atypical form of dysautonomia and an associated
panic disorder I have taken them or similar ones again. Based on the those who
make the tests I am not a valid subject because I have studied them (even if
not in depth) and I tend to very well on them. This is as much tied to my
knowing the tests as it is to anything about my inherent intelligence. I am
not putting myself down -- I am not claiming to not be intelligent -- bit the
testing is of limited value and the comparing even less so.
> However that is a good argument for positive eugenics, at least in
> western Europe. A close cohort that emphasizes education and doesn't
> interbreed with goyim can do well. I find it ironic that many liberal
> Jews promote dysgenic policies counter to what brought success to their
> community.
within the religion and the like. I have not seen where the push is to make
sure it is someone who has an Ashkenazi heritage.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 4:28:43 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 2:11:48 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
<s1ecik$s2o$1...@dont-email.me>:
Race is as much a cultural idea as a scientific one, so, no... your claim is
not a "fact".
> Intelligence as well as physically which ties into athletically as well.
> There is an environmental component that needs to be included though and
> that is where it becomes complex. Mainly upbringing.
There is more diversity within any given race as there is between the races.
> And of course there are outliers on all sides.
>
> For example, snit claims to be an Ashkenazi Jew and he is a complete idiot so there
> is a perfect example of an outlier.
In short: your bigoted nonsense is used by you to belittle others but is not
used by you to accept others as better than you.
THAT was my point. You should not look at someone's heritage as a way to put
them above OR below you. If you are gonna play that game, as stupid and
bigoted as it is, then be consistent. But bigotry is not about evidence or
reason, it is about putting others down.
<s1ecik$s2o$1...@dont-email.me>:
not a "fact".
> Intelligence as well as physically which ties into athletically as well.
> There is an environmental component that needs to be included though and
> that is where it becomes complex. Mainly upbringing.
> And of course there are outliers on all sides.
>
> For example, snit claims to be an Ashkenazi Jew and he is a complete idiot so there
> is a perfect example of an outlier.
used by you to accept others as better than you.
THAT was my point. You should not look at someone's heritage as a way to put
them above OR below you. If you are gonna play that game, as stupid and
bigoted as it is, then be consistent. But bigotry is not about evidence or
reason, it is about putting others down.
Jeff-Relf.Me
Feb 27, 2021, 5:51:15 PM2/27/21
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The nationwide eviction moratorium is the perfect example
of how the Feds can/do seize real estate willy-nilly.
of how the Feds can/do seize real estate willy-nilly.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 7:29:14 PM2/27/21
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On 02/27/2021 11:43 AM, Snit wrote:
> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
That would depend on the selection criteria for liberals and
> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
conservatives, wouldn't it?
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 7:33:56 PM2/27/21
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Talmudt
Feb 27, 2021, 7:39:08 PM2/27/21
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In article <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>, bow...@montana.com
says...
Here is Joel Crump.
Draw your own conclusions.
https://www.peekyou.com/joel_crump/33797659
says...
Draw your own conclusions.
https://www.peekyou.com/joel_crump/33797659
Joel
Feb 27, 2021, 7:39:30 PM2/27/21
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>> "race".
>
>Do you understand statistics?
When people are given a level playing field, "race" will have no
>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>> "race".
>
>Do you understand statistics?
effect whatsoever on the statistics. Of course, it's not exceedingly
common to have a level playing field.
--
Joel Crump
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 7:41:48 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
bias would suggest are better than you.
<ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
bias would suggest are better than you.
Steve Carroll
Feb 27, 2021, 7:47:04 PM2/27/21
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David Brooks
Feb 27, 2021, 7:48:40 PM2/27/21
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On 28/02/2021 00:41, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>> have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>> "race".
>>>
>>
>> Do you understand statistics?
>
> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
> bias would suggest are better than you.
Not here please.
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>> have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>> "race".
>>>
>>
>> Do you understand statistics?
>
> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
> bias would suggest are better than you.
Steve Carroll
Feb 27, 2021, 7:50:27 PM2/27/21
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Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 7:55:34 PM2/27/21
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rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 8:03:39 PM2/27/21
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> I have seen a push in the Jewish community to "keep the faith" -- to marry
> within the religion and the like. I have not seen where the push is to make
> sure it is someone who has an Ashkenazi heritage.
I had a friend who was desperately looking for a Jewish woman who wasn't
a complete ditz. I don't know how he made out as I moved out of the
Boston area before he found one.
afaik I never knew a Sephardim. My vague impression is they would
consider marrying a Ashkenazim as one step above a goy.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 8:10:20 PM2/27/21
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On 02/27/2021 02:11 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Low intelligence and a tendency
>> to violence is not a genetic disorder associated with some Africans.
> What gene is that tied to? What is the prevalence?
I have no idea.
>> Low intelligence and a tendency
>> to violence is not a genetic disorder associated with some Africans.
> What gene is that tied to? What is the prevalence?
>> Sociobiologists have been shouted down with emotional arguments by the
>> extreme environmentalists of the Boas school. As genetic research
>> advances I wonder how many will 'believe the science'?
> Point to the peer reviewed studies of this gene.
correlates with African excellence in sprinting would be a much more
popular topic than a gene that correlates with subpar intelligence.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 8:10:31 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 6:04:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
Yup. And that includes some biological "resources" not found elsewhere.
>> I have seen a push in the Jewish community to "keep the faith" -- to marry
>> within the religion and the like. I have not seen where the push is to make
>> sure it is someone who has an Ashkenazi heritage.
>
> Considering 95% of American Jews are Ashkenazim, it's hard to go wrong.
Can I quote that to my wife! :)
> I had a friend who was desperately looking for a Jewish woman who wasn't
> a complete ditz. I don't know how he made out as I moved out of the
> Boston area before he found one.
>
> afaik I never knew a Sephardim. My vague impression is they would
> consider marrying a Ashkenazim as one step above a goy.
In Israel there are issues with African Jews, as if they are somehow less
Jewish. Sigh.
Humans tend to define their "in-groups" in rather irrational ways.
<ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
>> I have seen a push in the Jewish community to "keep the faith" -- to marry
>> within the religion and the like. I have not seen where the push is to make
>> sure it is someone who has an Ashkenazi heritage.
>
> Considering 95% of American Jews are Ashkenazim, it's hard to go wrong.
> I had a friend who was desperately looking for a Jewish woman who wasn't
> a complete ditz. I don't know how he made out as I moved out of the
> Boston area before he found one.
>
> afaik I never knew a Sephardim. My vague impression is they would
> consider marrying a Ashkenazim as one step above a goy.
Jewish. Sigh.
Humans tend to define their "in-groups" in rather irrational ways.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 8:17:42 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:50:26 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<s1epci$s6b$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
Another example on you focusing on ME and not the topic.
<s1epci$s6b$1...@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 8:19:14 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
While you can draw different lines to get slightly different results, not
really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
<ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
D
Feb 27, 2021, 8:24:18 PM2/27/21
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:04:16 -0700, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>Considering 95% of American Jews are Ashkenazim, it's hard to go wrong.
>I had a friend who was desperately looking for a Jewish woman who wasn't
>a complete ditz. I don't know how he made out as I moved out of the
>Boston area before he found one.
>afaik I never knew a Sephardim. My vague impression is they would
>consider marrying a Ashkenazim as one step above a goy.
"et angelo Zmyrnae ecclesiae scribe haec
>Considering 95% of American Jews are Ashkenazim, it's hard to go wrong.
>I had a friend who was desperately looking for a Jewish woman who wasn't
>a complete ditz. I don't know how he made out as I moved out of the
>Boston area before he found one.
>afaik I never knew a Sephardim. My vague impression is they would
>consider marrying a Ashkenazim as one step above a goy.
and to the angel of the Smyrnan ecclesia write This
dicit primus et novissimus qui fuit mortuus
is saying the first and the last, who came to be dead
et vivit scio tribulationem tuam
and he is living, I am sciential of the tribulation yours
et paupertatem tuam sed dives es et
and the pauperism of yours, but rich you are, and
blasphemaris ab his qui se dicunt Iudaeos
the blasphemy from these who selves are calling Judaists
esse et non sunt sed sunt synagoga Satanae"
to be, and not they are, but are the synagogue of Satan.
--Apocalypsis 2:8-9, editio Vulgata
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 9:08:54 PM2/27/21
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rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 9:35:23 PM2/27/21
to
On 02/27/2021 05:41 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>> have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>> "race".
>>>
>>
>> Do you understand statistics?
>
> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
> bias would suggest are better than you.
>
>
>
Not at all. I accept that as a group Asians are more intelligent than
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>> have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>> "race".
>>>
>>
>> Do you understand statistics?
>
> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
> bias would suggest are better than you.
>
>
>
whites. You are aware there was an attempt to develop an intelligence
assessment test that took into account the black culture and experience?
The Asians did very well, as usual, the blacks not so much.
I don't mean the BITCH or Chitlin tests although they proved their
point. Unfortunately knowing the price of a short dog doesn't get you far.
Very few people will deny that there is a substantial gap in the scores
on standardized intelligence tests nor that the gap has existed for
decades. While there are many theories on why that is there apparently
aren't any workable theories on correcting it.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 9:40:32 PM2/27/21
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Joel
Feb 27, 2021, 10:09:37 PM2/27/21
to
--
Joel Crump
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 10:21:39 PM2/27/21
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On 02/27/2021 06:10 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 6:04:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
>
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 6:04:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> Northern Europe is known for its favorable climate and resources...
>
> Yup. And that includes some biological "resources" not found elsewhere.
Like? It was so wonderful humans had to take an extended vacation in
>
> Yup. And that includes some biological "resources" not found elsewhere.
Spain during the LGM:
https://www.uab.cat/web/newsroom/news-detail/iberian-peninsula-last-refuge-of-the-european-lineage-surviving-the-ice-age-1345668003610.html?noticiaid=1345784352941
The Western Hunter Gatherers followed the retreating ice north. It was
far from the Garden of Eden.
> In Israel there are issues with African Jews, as if they are somehow less
> Jewish. Sigh.
>
> Humans tend to define their "in-groups" in rather irrational ways.
rabbis examined the goat entrails and declared them to be Jews. Rather
rich considering the Ashkenazim are themselves an admixture.
I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
Georgia.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 10:23:46 PM2/27/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 7:36:01 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0dr8...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 05:41 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>>> have one?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>>> "race".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you understand statistics?
>>
>> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
>> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
>> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
>> bias would suggest are better than you.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. I accept that as a group Asians are more intelligent than
> whites. You are aware there was an attempt to develop an intelligence
> assessment test that took into account the black culture and experience?
> The Asians did very well, as usual, the blacks not so much.
And how did they account for cultural impacts? How did they isolate genetics?
And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
Which was my point.
> I don't mean the BITCH or Chitlin tests although they proved their
> point. Unfortunately knowing the price of a short dog doesn't get you far.
>
> Very few people will deny that there is a substantial gap in the scores
> on standardized intelligence tests nor that the gap has existed for
> decades. While there are many theories on why that is there apparently
> aren't any workable theories on correcting it.
<ia0dr8...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 05:41 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:34:34 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia06nh...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2021 12:57 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates. Do you
>>>>>> have one?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In what
>>>>> field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking about people
>>>>> like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa. (yes, I realize he was a
>>>>> doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to intelligence.
>>>> There are below, at, and above average intelligence people of any
>>>> "race".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you understand statistics?
>>
>> This is a debate style where the person says yes and then you pick some
>> statistics to push your confirmation bias, no doubt looking to put down groups
>> of people as worse than you, and not looking to ones your same confirmation
>> bias would suggest are better than you.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. I accept that as a group Asians are more intelligent than
> whites. You are aware there was an attempt to develop an intelligence
> assessment test that took into account the black culture and experience?
> The Asians did very well, as usual, the blacks not so much.
And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
Which was my point.
> I don't mean the BITCH or Chitlin tests although they proved their
> point. Unfortunately knowing the price of a short dog doesn't get you far.
>
> Very few people will deny that there is a substantial gap in the scores
> on standardized intelligence tests nor that the gap has existed for
> decades. While there are many theories on why that is there apparently
> aren't any workable theories on correcting it.
rbowman
Feb 27, 2021, 10:29:30 PM2/27/21
to
On 02/27/2021 06:19 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 11:43 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
>>> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
>>> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
>>> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
>>
>> That would depend on the selection criteria for liberals and
>> conservatives, wouldn't it?
>
> While you can draw different lines to get slightly different results, not
> really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
> Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
> sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
>
>
It still sounds like 'modern usage' as determined by self-identified
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 11:43 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
>>> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
>>> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
>>> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
>>
>> That would depend on the selection criteria for liberals and
>> conservatives, wouldn't it?
>
> While you can draw different lines to get slightly different results, not
> really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
> Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
> sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
>
>
liberals. Tossing religious fundamentalists into the conservative camp
while excluding the knuckle-draggers from the liberal camp is hardly a
level playing field.
Personally I agree with the late Sam Francis. Conservative? There's
nothing left to conserve.
Snit
Feb 27, 2021, 11:03:46 PM2/27/21
to
On Feb 27, 2021 at 8:22:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0gi1...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 06:10 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 6:04:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>
>>> Northern Europe is known for its favorable climate and resources...
>>
>> Yup. And that includes some biological "resources" not found elsewhere.
>
> Like?
Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
led to more advancement.
But also let us not pretend that things did not happen elsewhere. Our "Arabic
numerals" did not come from Europe, nor the idea of Algebra nor Algorithms.
Even things like "cave" art and writing itself started outside of Europe --
both of those in Africa. And it was Africans who were the first known to work
on codified medical systems (with, I think, the first surgeries done in
Egypt).
We in America learn about European inventions and advancements a LOT more than
we learn about ones in Africa and elsewhere.
> It was so wonderful humans had to take an extended vacation in
> Spain during the LGM:
>
> https://www.uab.cat/web/newsroom/news-detail/iberian-peninsula-last-refuge-of-the-european-lineage-surviving-the-ice-age-1345668003610.html?noticiaid=1345784352941
>
> The Western Hunter Gatherers followed the retreating ice north. It was
> far from the Garden of Eden.
>
>
>> In Israel there are issues with African Jews, as if they are somehow less
>> Jewish. Sigh.
>>
>> Humans tend to define their "in-groups" in rather irrational ways.
>
> I remember when Beta Israel reared its head. It was 1975 before the
> rabbis examined the goat entrails and declared them to be Jews. Rather
> rich considering the Ashkenazim are themselves an admixture.
>
> I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
> tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
> Georgia.
And with good reason (though isn't it more Tennessee?)
<ia0gi1...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 06:10 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 6:04:16 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia08f8...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>
>>> Northern Europe is known for its favorable climate and resources...
>>
>> Yup. And that includes some biological "resources" not found elsewhere.
>
> Like?
a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
led to more advancement.
But also let us not pretend that things did not happen elsewhere. Our "Arabic
numerals" did not come from Europe, nor the idea of Algebra nor Algorithms.
Even things like "cave" art and writing itself started outside of Europe --
both of those in Africa. And it was Africans who were the first known to work
on codified medical systems (with, I think, the first surgeries done in
Egypt).
We in America learn about European inventions and advancements a LOT more than
we learn about ones in Africa and elsewhere.
> It was so wonderful humans had to take an extended vacation in
> Spain during the LGM:
>
> https://www.uab.cat/web/newsroom/news-detail/iberian-peninsula-last-refuge-of-the-european-lineage-surviving-the-ice-age-1345668003610.html?noticiaid=1345784352941
>
> The Western Hunter Gatherers followed the retreating ice north. It was
> far from the Garden of Eden.
>
>
>> In Israel there are issues with African Jews, as if they are somehow less
>> Jewish. Sigh.
>>
>> Humans tend to define their "in-groups" in rather irrational ways.
>
> I remember when Beta Israel reared its head. It was 1975 before the
> rabbis examined the goat entrails and declared them to be Jews. Rather
> rich considering the Ashkenazim are themselves an admixture.
>
> I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
> tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
> Georgia.
Snit
Feb 28, 2021, 12:08:39 AM2/28/21
to
On Feb 27, 2021 at 8:30:10 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0h0p...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 06:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2021 11:43 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
>>>> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
>>>> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
>>>> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
>>>
>>> That would depend on the selection criteria for liberals and
>>> conservatives, wouldn't it?
>>
>> While you can draw different lines to get slightly different results, not
>> really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
>> Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
>> sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
>>
> It still sounds like 'modern usage' as determined by self-identified
> liberals.
Sorta like what you do with race. OK. But it is true that those who
self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
> Tossing religious fundamentalists into the conservative camp
> while excluding the knuckle-draggers from the liberal camp is hardly a
> level playing field.
What do you mean? Most top scientists are liberal, too. That is another good
example.
You try to do this with race -- where there is LESS connection. Doing this
with political philosophy is fun.
> Personally I agree with the late Sam Francis. Conservative? There's
> nothing left to conserve.
Well, that is not really what it means. These are the main differences as I
see them (grossly simplified):
* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a focus on
investing in the future and building a stronger tie between productivity and
financial reward.
Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to help
ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights. This includes
following the scientific evidence about climate change and food safety, and
things like setting levels of lead and other harmful substances allowed, and
even to wanting to do research to reduce the harm of tools such as cars and
guns and swimming pools. This is a form of control, and conservatives are
right to note that. And they are right to note that sometimes these measures
are taken too far.
* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, males,
heterosexuals, those in lower populated states, and the wealthy, with a focus
on redistributing wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that
this will somehow help others.
Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings and
what they believe has historically existed (which is often incorrect), or even
just based on their own religion. This includes controlling which consenting
adults can marry each other, what a woman can do with her own body, and even
insisting the government gets to define YOUR gender. They also work to create
regulations on voting to limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a
voice they know their ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right
to call conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a
less defensible one.
<ia0h0p...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 06:19 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29:52 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ia06en...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 02/27/2021 11:43 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> The point, which went over your head, is that those of you who are bigots pick
>>>> and choose "evidence" to back your bigotry. Liberals also tend to have higher
>>>> IQs than conservatives. Again, are you SURE you want to go down a path that
>>>> "proves" you to be less intelligent than others?
>>>
>>> That would depend on the selection criteria for liberals and
>>> conservatives, wouldn't it?
>>
>> While you can draw different lines to get slightly different results, not
>> really. No. The studies have been based on the modern usage in America.
>> Liberals tend to have higher IQs. They also tend to fact check, use more
>> sources, follow science more, be better educated, etc.
>>
> It still sounds like 'modern usage' as determined by self-identified
> liberals.
self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
> Tossing religious fundamentalists into the conservative camp
> while excluding the knuckle-draggers from the liberal camp is hardly a
> level playing field.
example.
You try to do this with race -- where there is LESS connection. Doing this
with political philosophy is fun.
> Personally I agree with the late Sam Francis. Conservative? There's
> nothing left to conserve.
see them (grossly simplified):
* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a focus on
investing in the future and building a stronger tie between productivity and
financial reward.
Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to help
ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights. This includes
following the scientific evidence about climate change and food safety, and
things like setting levels of lead and other harmful substances allowed, and
even to wanting to do research to reduce the harm of tools such as cars and
guns and swimming pools. This is a form of control, and conservatives are
right to note that. And they are right to note that sometimes these measures
are taken too far.
* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, males,
heterosexuals, those in lower populated states, and the wealthy, with a focus
on redistributing wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that
this will somehow help others.
Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings and
what they believe has historically existed (which is often incorrect), or even
just based on their own religion. This includes controlling which consenting
adults can marry each other, what a woman can do with her own body, and even
insisting the government gets to define YOUR gender. They also work to create
regulations on voting to limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a
voice they know their ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right
to call conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a
less defensible one.
rbowman
Feb 28, 2021, 12:50:47 AM2/28/21
to
On 02/27/2021 08:23 PM, Snit wrote:
> And how did they account for cultural impacts? How did they isolate genetics?
> And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
> your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
> do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
When is the last time Asians or Jews had riots, destroyed property, and
> And how did they account for cultural impacts? How did they isolate genetics?
> And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
> your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
> do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
killed people? Are Asians or Jews responsible for the bloodshed in
Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and so forth? Have Asians or Jews proved
unable to pull themselves from poverty?
rbowman
Feb 28, 2021, 1:19:28 AM2/28/21
to
On 02/27/2021 09:03 PM, Snit wrote:
> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
> led to more advancement.
So the first people pushing into northern Europe found domesticated
> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
> led to more advancement.
animals? It wasn't a particularly good place to grow wheat either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_cuisines_of_medieval_Europe#Scandinavia
> But also let us not pretend that things did not happen elsewhere. Our "Arabic
> numerals" did not come from Europe, nor the idea of Algebra nor Algorithms.
Persians. Both are Indo-European peoples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans
> Even things like "cave" art and writing itself started outside of Europe --
> both of those in Africa. And it was Africans who were the first known to work
> on codified medical systems (with, I think, the first surgeries done in
> Egypt).
> We in America learn about European inventions and advancements a LOT more than
> we learn about ones in Africa and elsewhere.
civil service system? The whole 'cradle of civilization' thing? The
Sumerian sexegesimal numeric system? In my mercifully brief stint as a
teacher I tried to teach that to eighth grade students.
I suppose you never heard of Augustine of Hippo? The pyramids? Egyptian
irrigation techniques? Again, north Africa is completely different from
sub-equatorial Africa. Sorry, Wakanda was a creation of Hollywood.
>> I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
>> tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
>> Georgia.
> And with good reason (though isn't it more Tennessee?)
Tennessee. Georgia was the start of the removal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_removal#Georgia_and_the_Cherokee_Nation
rbowman
Feb 28, 2021, 1:23:00 AM2/28/21
to
On 02/27/2021 10:08 PM, Snit wrote:
> Sorta like what you do with race. OK. But it is true that those who
> self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
> more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
It would seem to me liberals live in mortal fear of any opinion that
> Sorta like what you do with race. OK. But it is true that those who
> self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
> more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
doesn't match theirs.
> What do you mean? Most top scientists are liberal, too. That is another good
> example.
Snit
Feb 28, 2021, 3:26:46 AM2/28/21
to
On Feb 27, 2021 at 11:20:07 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0qve...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 09:03 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
>> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
>> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
>> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
>> led to more advancement.
>
> So the first people pushing into northern Europe found domesticated
> animals?
Your question shows you do not really get the concept of what domestication
means. One does not find such animals, though one can find animals that are
better suited for domestication. But domestication is a process done BY
humans. Unless others had already domesticated the animals they cannot just be
"found".
> It wasn't a particularly good place to grow wheat either:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_cuisines_of_medieval_Europe#Scandinavia
Perhaps it was barley I was thinking of? As I said, been a while since I have
read or looked into this much.
>> But also let us not pretend that things did not happen elsewhere. Our "Arabic
>> numerals" did not come from Europe, nor the idea of Algebra nor Algorithms.
>
> Much of the basis of algebra came from India and was refined by the
> Persians. Both are Indo-European peoples.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans
Do you know where the term "algebra" comes from? "Algorithm"?
>> Even things like "cave" art and writing itself started outside of Europe --
>> both of those in Africa. And it was Africans who were the first known to work
>> on codified medical systems (with, I think, the first surgeries done in
>> Egypt).
>
> North Africa is a completely different game than sub-equatorial Africa.
And now you want to split up Africans to fit your narrative, even as you try
to be includes with Europe to others to fit your narrative.
>> We in America learn about European inventions and advancements a LOT more than
>> we learn about ones in Africa and elsewhere.
>
> Oh. You never heard about the invention of gunpowder?
If I recall correctly that was made in neither Europe of Africa but in Asia.
> The Confucian
> civil service system? The whole 'cradle of civilization' thing? The
> Sumerian sexegesimal numeric system? In my mercifully brief stint as a
> teacher I tried to teach that to eighth grade students.
So you are saying you ARE aware of the deep cultural history and level of
sophistication and advancement in Africa. As we go into later times we get
Lalibela and some other pretty amazing works.
For what it is worth, I am horrid with names. I remember Lalibela to some
extent from a resteraunt I sometimes go to:
https://www.cafelalibela.com
Excellent food run by some amazingly friendly people. If you are ever in the
area I cannot recommend it strongly enough.
When I was in Tucson I used to go here:
https://www.zemamsrestaurants.com
Also amazing food and wonderful folks running it. That was 20+ years ago, but
I see from the site the same folks run it... and they now have a second
location. Very happy to hear they are doing well.
> I suppose you never heard of Augustine of Hippo? The pyramids? Egyptian
> irrigation techniques? Again, north Africa is completely different from
> sub-equatorial Africa. Sorry, Wakanda was a creation of Hollywood.
I think you went off talking to someone else there... but you continue to try
to split Africa even after trying to tie Europe to inventions outside of what
most would include. Your bias is showing again.
>>> I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
>>> tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
>>> Georgia.
>> And with good reason (though isn't it more Tennessee?)
>
> Principally the Carolinas and Georgia with a little slice of east
> Tennessee. Georgia was the start of the removal:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_removal#Georgia_and_the_Cherokee_Nation
Good info. Thanks.
<ia0qve...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 09:03 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
>> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
>> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
>> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
>> led to more advancement.
>
> So the first people pushing into northern Europe found domesticated
> animals?
means. One does not find such animals, though one can find animals that are
better suited for domestication. But domestication is a process done BY
humans. Unless others had already domesticated the animals they cannot just be
"found".
> It wasn't a particularly good place to grow wheat either:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_cuisines_of_medieval_Europe#Scandinavia
read or looked into this much.
>> But also let us not pretend that things did not happen elsewhere. Our "Arabic
>> numerals" did not come from Europe, nor the idea of Algebra nor Algorithms.
>
> Much of the basis of algebra came from India and was refined by the
> Persians. Both are Indo-European peoples.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans
>> Even things like "cave" art and writing itself started outside of Europe --
>> both of those in Africa. And it was Africans who were the first known to work
>> on codified medical systems (with, I think, the first surgeries done in
>> Egypt).
>
> North Africa is a completely different game than sub-equatorial Africa.
to be includes with Europe to others to fit your narrative.
>> We in America learn about European inventions and advancements a LOT more than
>> we learn about ones in Africa and elsewhere.
>
> Oh. You never heard about the invention of gunpowder?
> The Confucian
> civil service system? The whole 'cradle of civilization' thing? The
> Sumerian sexegesimal numeric system? In my mercifully brief stint as a
> teacher I tried to teach that to eighth grade students.
sophistication and advancement in Africa. As we go into later times we get
Lalibela and some other pretty amazing works.
For what it is worth, I am horrid with names. I remember Lalibela to some
extent from a resteraunt I sometimes go to:
https://www.cafelalibela.com
Excellent food run by some amazingly friendly people. If you are ever in the
area I cannot recommend it strongly enough.
When I was in Tucson I used to go here:
https://www.zemamsrestaurants.com
Also amazing food and wonderful folks running it. That was 20+ years ago, but
I see from the site the same folks run it... and they now have a second
location. Very happy to hear they are doing well.
> I suppose you never heard of Augustine of Hippo? The pyramids? Egyptian
> irrigation techniques? Again, north Africa is completely different from
> sub-equatorial Africa. Sorry, Wakanda was a creation of Hollywood.
to split Africa even after trying to tie Europe to inventions outside of what
most would include. Your bias is showing again.
>>> I do have a problem with the idea 'this is our real estate because our
>>> tribal god said so'. I think the Cherokee have the same feeling about
>>> Georgia.
>> And with good reason (though isn't it more Tennessee?)
>
> Principally the Carolinas and Georgia with a little slice of east
> Tennessee. Georgia was the start of the removal:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_removal#Georgia_and_the_Cherokee_Nation
Peter Köhlmann
Feb 28, 2021, 4:00:59 AM2/28/21
to
Am 27.02.21 um 21:05 schrieb Tomas:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>> race than there are between races.
>>
>> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
>> even tied to genetics.
>
> Then why are niggers on average so stupid and why are Asians on
> average so intelligent?
> Outliers exist of course, but looking at averages.
On average, all are smarter than you are.
> http://niggermania.co/forum/
>
You are a racist. No need to call you stupid, all racists are
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jwx_H.26307$5%5.1...@fx19.iad:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <vr8l3g1n3nfrfm61p...@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>>> Do you have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>>> people of any "race".
>>
>> Absolutely correct. And there is more diversity among members of a
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> There are many people born in Africa *today* with doctorates.
>>>>> Do you have one?
>>>>
>>>> That is relevant how? Where did they get their doctorates? In
>>>> what field? sub-Saharan or north Africa? Or are you talking
>>>> about people like Chrsitiaan Barnard? He was born in Africa.
>>>> (yes, I realize he was a doctor, not a doctorate)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is that what we call "race" is irrelevant to
>>> intelligence. There are below, at, and above average intelligence
>>> people of any "race".
>>
>> race than there are between races.
>>
>> Add to that, much of the concept of race is a cultural and not
>> even tied to genetics.
>
> Then why are niggers on average so stupid and why are Asians on
> average so intelligent?
> Outliers exist of course, but looking at averages.
On average, all are smarter than you are.
> http://niggermania.co/forum/
>
You are a racist. No need to call you stupid, all racists are
Snit
Feb 28, 2021, 4:19:21 AM2/28/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 11:23:39 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0r62...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 10:08 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Sorta like what you do with race. OK. But it is true that those who
>> self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
>> more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
>
> It would seem to me liberals live in mortal fear of any opinion that
> doesn't match theirs.
Nope. What liberals tend to want is equal rights... and many will stand up to
those who work against it. But it is conservatives who are more fear-based. In
fact, you can get someone to become more conservative by introducing fearful
stimuli, or more liberal by reducing it. Plenty of research on this.
So you know I am not hand-picking:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=liberal+conservative+fear
Spend a bit looking through the research... very different than your gut
feeling.
To be fair, it is not as if conservatives ONLY focus on fear. I have heard
some argue that liberals tend to ignore threats and they see conservatives as
being more "balanced".
>> What do you mean? Most top scientists are liberal, too. That is another good
>> example.
>
> Again, you're defining 'top scientists' and 'most'.
No, I am not. I am noting that in pretty much any scientific field the
scientists who are seen as the top experts, whether you look at that as most
papers published or most often referred to or pretty much any other measure,
they are likely to be liberal. This is easy to understand why -- the modern
conservative worldview reject science on gender, climate, evolution (at least
many do), etc. Liberals tend to look more toward evidence, science, fact
checking, using more sources, etc.
<ia0r62...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 10:08 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Sorta like what you do with race. OK. But it is true that those who
>> self-identify as conservatives *TEND* to have lower IQs as well as respond
>> more strongly to fear stimuli and have bigger "fear" centers in their brains.
>
> It would seem to me liberals live in mortal fear of any opinion that
> doesn't match theirs.
those who work against it. But it is conservatives who are more fear-based. In
fact, you can get someone to become more conservative by introducing fearful
stimuli, or more liberal by reducing it. Plenty of research on this.
So you know I am not hand-picking:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=liberal+conservative+fear
Spend a bit looking through the research... very different than your gut
feeling.
To be fair, it is not as if conservatives ONLY focus on fear. I have heard
some argue that liberals tend to ignore threats and they see conservatives as
being more "balanced".
>> What do you mean? Most top scientists are liberal, too. That is another good
>> example.
>
> Again, you're defining 'top scientists' and 'most'.
scientists who are seen as the top experts, whether you look at that as most
papers published or most often referred to or pretty much any other measure,
they are likely to be liberal. This is easy to understand why -- the modern
conservative worldview reject science on gender, climate, evolution (at least
many do), etc. Liberals tend to look more toward evidence, science, fact
checking, using more sources, etc.
Snit
Feb 28, 2021, 4:21:37 AM2/28/21
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On Feb 27, 2021 at 10:51:26 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ia0p9l...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 08:23 PM, Snit wrote:
>> And how did they account for cultural impacts? How did they isolate genetics?
>> And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
>> your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
>> do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
>
> When is the last time Asians or Jews had riots, destroyed property, and
> killed people?
In Israel Jews kill many. Heck, in the US army there are Asians and Jews.
> Are Asians or Jews responsible for the bloodshed in
> Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and so forth?
Are you thinking Asians and Jews have similar histories and face similar
systemic racism? If so please back it.
> Have Asians or Jews proved
> unable to pull themselves from poverty?
There most certainly are poor Asians and Jews. Of course. Just as there are
poor people in other groups.
Seems you are blaming groups for the mistreatment they get form others. Have
you ever looked into the research of economic and racial inequality in the US?
<ia0p9l...@mid.individual.net>:
> On 02/27/2021 08:23 PM, Snit wrote:
>> And how did they account for cultural impacts? How did they isolate genetics?
>> And why are you attacking blacks and not praising Asians and Jews? You spend
>> your time focusing on whom you can attack with your bigoted nonsense, and you
>> do not use it to try to say you are inferior.
>
> When is the last time Asians or Jews had riots, destroyed property, and
> killed people?
> Are Asians or Jews responsible for the bloodshed in
> Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and so forth?
systemic racism? If so please back it.
> Have Asians or Jews proved
> unable to pull themselves from poverty?
poor people in other groups.
Seems you are blaming groups for the mistreatment they get form others. Have
you ever looked into the research of economic and racial inequality in the US?
Snit
Feb 28, 2021, 4:36:52 AM2/28/21
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On Feb 28, 2021 at 2:00:57 AM MST, "Peter Köhlmann" wrote
<s1fm49$a8l$1...@dont-email.me>:
We often disagree... but here we don't. Good to see.
<s1fm49$a8l$1...@dont-email.me>:
rbowman
Feb 28, 2021, 2:06:36 PM2/28/21
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On 02/28/2021 01:26 AM, Snit wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 11:20:07 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia0qve...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 09:03 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
>>> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
>>> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
>>> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
>>> led to more advancement.
>>
>> So the first people pushing into northern Europe found domesticated
>> animals?
>
> Your question shows you do not really get the concept of what domestication
> means. One does not find such animals, though one can find animals that are
> better suited for domestication. But domestication is a process done BY
> humans. Unless others had already domesticated the animals they cannot just be
> "found".
No shit, Shakespeare. You cited domesticated animals as a resource in
> On Feb 27, 2021 at 11:20:07 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ia0qve...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 02/27/2021 09:03 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Domesticated animals. Good environment for wheat and other food sources. Been
>>> a while since I have done any reading on this, but there are a number of
>>> examples. At the same time there were things that were lacking -- things that
>>> people wanted but did not have as much need for. This led to more trade which
>>> led to more advancement.
>>
>> So the first people pushing into northern Europe found domesticated
>> animals?
>
> Your question shows you do not really get the concept of what domestication
> means. One does not find such animals, though one can find animals that are
> better suited for domestication. But domestication is a process done BY
> humans. Unless others had already domesticated the animals they cannot just be
> "found".
northern Europe. That didn't happen by itself. Actually the first humans
in the area were hunter gatherers. The current thought is the I Y
haplogroup originated in Europe from the IJ from 30 to 40 thousand years
BP. I1 evolved about 20,000 BP when the area was repopulated from the
Iberian refuge after the LGM.
There are several theories concerning the original home of R1b which is
associated with the Indo-European expansion. The area around the Caspian
is a popular theory. They are the group associated with the
domestication of cattle around 5000 BP, and brought farming to Europe,
as well as parts of west Asia. The original hunter gatherers survived
along side the newcomers. R1b is now the most common haplogroup in
Europe. I M253 is more prevalent in Scandinavia, with more than 50% of
the males in Gotaland carrying that gene.
Personally I'm a hunter gatherer and not a farmer.
>> It wasn't a particularly good place to grow wheat either:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_cuisines_of_medieval_Europe#Scandinavia
>
> Perhaps it was barley I was thinking of? As I said, been a while since I have
> read or looked into this much.
they can taking in consideration the growing season, soil salinity,
water requirements, and so forth. Oats are tolerant of cool, rainy
weather and do well in northwest Europe. I don't know about the
statement that oats were thought of as animal fodder and shunned. It
reminds me of Jared Diamond's thesis that the Greenland population
collapsed after the optima because the inhabitants wouldn't eat fish.
> Do you know where the term "algebra" comes from? "Algorithm"?
arising in Greece and India doesn't make the subject matter Persian. Of
course the Persians are another Indo-European people despite the
derailment of their culture by the Moslem hordes. If you look at the
'Golden Age of Islam' you'll find many more Persians than Arabs.
>> North Africa is a completely different game than sub-equatorial Africa.
>
> And now you want to split up Africans to fit your narrative, even as you try
> to be includes with Europe to others to fit your narrative.
carried African genes. It's genetics, not geography. For someone from a
matrilineal culture that bases many of its claims on putative middle
eastern tribes you should be aware of that.
>> Oh. You never heard about the invention of gunpowder?
>
> If I recall correctly that was made in neither Europe of Africa but in Asia.
that were not invented in Europe. Very good.
>> The Confucian
>> civil service system? The whole 'cradle of civilization' thing? The
>> Sumerian sexegesimal numeric system? In my mercifully brief stint as a
>> teacher I tried to teach that to eighth grade students.
>
> So you are saying you ARE aware of the deep cultural history and level of
> sophistication and advancement in Africa. As we go into later times we get
> Lalibela and some other pretty amazing works.
>> I suppose you never heard of Augustine of Hippo? The pyramids? Egyptian
>> irrigation techniques? Again, north Africa is completely different from
>> sub-equatorial Africa. Sorry, Wakanda was a creation of Hollywood.
>
> I think you went off talking to someone else there... but you continue to try
> to split Africa even after trying to tie Europe to inventions outside of what
> most would include. Your bias is showing again.
D
Feb 28, 2021, 2:31:25 PM2/28/21
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 12:07:14 -0700, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>Shakespeare
William Shakespeare was born to John & Mary Arden-Shakespeare at their
home in Stratford-upon-Avon (now museum on Henley Street, Warwickshire
1W42:30,52N11:39), tradition holds on St George's Day, Sunday April 23,
1564, ante meridiem (baptismal record of 26th, time of birth unsourced).
>Shakespeare
William Shakespeare was born to John & Mary Arden-Shakespeare at their
home in Stratford-upon-Avon (now museum on Henley Street, Warwickshire
1W42:30,52N11:39), tradition holds on St George's Day, Sunday April 23,
1564, ante meridiem (baptismal record of 26th, time of birth unsourced).
Gronk
Feb 28, 2021, 11:51:47 PM2/28/21
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... and he'll kill non-whites with them.
Reparations
Mar 9, 2021, 7:25:02 AM3/9/21
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In article <50k_H.26305$5%5.2...@fx19.iad>
> > It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> > hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
> the highest in the world.
How smart is a dead Jew?
Not very.
Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2021 at 7:33:41 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <i9tpas...@mid.individual.net>:
>
> >>>> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
> >>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
> >>>
> >>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
> >>> about 100,000 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
> >> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
> >> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
> >>
> >
> > So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> > than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> > being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> > got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
Too stupid to read, eh?
> >>>> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
> >>>
> >>> If Chris Stringer was correct the more intelligent humans left Africa
> >>> about 100,000 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no such thing as "more intelligent humans". Intelligence
> >> varies from person to person in the same ways throughout the world,
> >> Africa, Europe, and everywhere else.
> >>
> >
> > So throughout the world there are human beings that a more intelligence
> > than the average and there is such a thing as a 'more intelligent human
> > being'? Then, to use the collective, the more intelligent human beings
> > got the fuck out of Africa.
>
> When people left Africa they were not tested for IQ.
> > It truth I lean more toward Wolpoff and Caspari's multiregional
> > hypothesis than Stringer's Out of Africa.
>
> Do you think Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than you? Their average IQ is among
> the highest in the world.
How smart is a dead Jew?
Not very.
The Jews
Mar 9, 2021, 7:34:23 AM3/9/21
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 13:23:42 +0100 (CET), "Reparations"
<coon-...@naacp.org> wrote:
>How smart is a dead Jew?
Smarter than a live Nazi! LOL
<coon-...@naacp.org> wrote:
>How smart is a dead Jew?
And MUCH smarter than a DEAD Nazi!
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/execution-of-nazis-1946?phrase=execution%20of%20nazis%201946&sort=mostpopular
“If you have not killed at least one Nazi a day, you have wasted that
day. If you kill one Nazi, kill another—there is nothing more amusing
for us than a heap of Nazi corpses.”
-Ilya Ehrenburg.
rbowman
Mar 9, 2021, 9:53:06 AM3/9/21
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On 03/09/2021 05:34 AM, The Jews wrote:
> “If you have not killed at least one Nazi a day, you have wasted that
> day. If you kill one Nazi, kill another—there is nothing more amusing
> for us than a heap of Nazi corpses.”
> -Ilya Ehrenburg.
If you can't find a Nazi a Palestinian will do.
> “If you have not killed at least one Nazi a day, you have wasted that
> day. If you kill one Nazi, kill another—there is nothing more amusing
> for us than a heap of Nazi corpses.”
> -Ilya Ehrenburg.
gerd
Mar 10, 2021, 3:50:11 AM3/10/21
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote in
news:iapgef...@mid.individual.net:
Jew, Palestinian, Nazi, all the same.
news:iapgef...@mid.individual.net:
chuck
Mar 10, 2021, 4:55:03 AM3/10/21
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In article <8nqe4gtsq9n1ovjo3...@4ax.com>
of dead jews at the hands of Germans.
The Jews <je...@humiliate-the-glue-huffers.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 13:23:42 +0100 (CET), "Reparations"
> <coon-...@naacp.org> wrote:
>
> >How smart is a dead Jew?
>
> Smarter than a live Nazi! LOL
>
> And MUCH smarter than a DEAD Nazi!
>
> https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/execution-of-nazis-1946?phrase=execution%20of%20nazis%201946&sort=mostpopular
Yeah, but you lying goobers still can't produce any real proof
>
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 13:23:42 +0100 (CET), "Reparations"
> <coon-...@naacp.org> wrote:
>
> >How smart is a dead Jew?
>
> Smarter than a live Nazi! LOL
>
> And MUCH smarter than a DEAD Nazi!
>
> https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/execution-of-nazis-1946?phrase=execution%20of%20nazis%201946&sort=mostpopular
of dead jews at the hands of Germans.
Peter Köhlmann
Mar 10, 2021, 7:08:51 AM3/10/21
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Am 10.03.21 um 10:52 schrieb chuck:
Sure they can. After all, the germans themselves were able to. But then,
you are way too stupid to count to 6. Much less 6 millions
you are way too stupid to count to 6. Much less 6 millions
chrisv
Mar 10, 2021, 7:25:58 AM3/10/21
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chuck wrote:
>Yeah, but you lying goobers still can't produce any real proof
>of dead jews at the hands of Germans.
Enjoying being a POS, are you, "chuck"?
>Yeah, but you lying goobers still can't produce any real proof
>of dead jews at the hands of Germans.
Let me guess: You think that you're "smart".
--
"Considering how the chimneys in the supposed crematorium in Auschwitz
were added AFTER the end of the supposed Holocaust and aren't actually
connected to anything (not even the building), I laugh at the
suggestion that they systematically killed them. Considering how Jews
were floating the "six million" number for decades before the First
World War even occurred and always tried to get the world to donate to
"save the six million Jews in peril," I laugh at the number that was
revealed after the supposed event. The fact that even official numbers
of the Jewish population in Europe shows little to no difference in
their numbers before and after the Second World War also makes me
laugh. The fact that there is no trace of Zyklon B in the places were
the Jews were supposedly gassed always makes me laugh. The fact that
Zyklon B was used to exterminate insects for years before the Second
World War and that the only trace of it exists in areas where the
Nazis put Jewish clothing and shoes that was infested with bugs is
also pretty hilarious." - right-wing propagandist "Slimer", denying
the Holocaust
Molly Bolt
Mar 10, 2021, 8:37:00 AM3/10/21
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 3:49:30 PM UTC-6, Leroy Johnson wrote:
> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> Civilization.
>
> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> bricks.
>
> It's the truth. Look it up.
WE have--here are the bricks given to the white "men" (red-state trumptards)...
"Alabama state representatives hoping for more federal aide"
https://www.waff.com/2020/12/16/alabama-state-representatives-hoping-more-federal-aide/
"Alabama gets $2.17 for every $1 paid in federal taxes, report states"
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2020/11/alabama-gets-217-for-every-1-paid-in-federal-taxes-report-states.html
--
AND here's what they done with it...
"Alabama’s lagging infrastructure could hurt economic development efforts"
https://yellowhammernews.com/alabamas-lagging-infrastructure-could-hurt-economic-development-efforts/
> Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> Civilization.
>
> Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> bricks.
>
> It's the truth. Look it up.
WE have--here are the bricks given to the white "men" (red-state trumptards)...
"Alabama state representatives hoping for more federal aide"
https://www.waff.com/2020/12/16/alabama-state-representatives-hoping-more-federal-aide/
"Alabama gets $2.17 for every $1 paid in federal taxes, report states"
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2020/11/alabama-gets-217-for-every-1-paid-in-federal-taxes-report-states.html
--
AND here's what they done with it...
"Alabama’s lagging infrastructure could hurt economic development efforts"
https://yellowhammernews.com/alabamas-lagging-infrastructure-could-hurt-economic-development-efforts/
Molly Bolt
Mar 10, 2021, 8:37:47 AM3/10/21
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 4:01:44 PM UTC-6, Joel wrote:
> Leroy Johnson <big10in...@gamil.org> wrote:
>
> >Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> >Civilization.
> >
> >Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> >bricks.
> >
> >It's the truth. Look it up.
>
> >Give a White Man a pile of bricks, and he will build you a
> >Civilization.
> >
> >Give Civilization to a black man, and he'll turn it into a pile of
> >bricks.
> >
> >It's the truth. Look it up.
> You're a moron, human civilization began in Africa. Also, your
> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
It's not his fault. You didn't help pay for his education.
> headers are entirely consistent with many of the socks.
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