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Nancy Luft

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Jun 20, 2009, 10:42:54 PM6/20/09
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Greetings!

Here is the latest copy of my emails ... this one about that FASCIST
TOTALITARIAN OVERTHROW OF OUR DEMOCRACY BY OUR RICH:

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Now there Obama ...


You truly do not have to be a brain surgeon or a rocket scientists to
know the difference between Republicans and Democrats!

The age old war of Labor vs. Management!


Republicans are always on the side of management, i.e., business, the
rich and their money making enterprises, Wall Street, etc.

Democrats are always on the side of labor, i.e., labor unions, the
working class, the working poor, the truly needy, etc.

And so we have it, that Republican Presidents always appoint
economical teams that Wall Street loves ... and Democrats always
appoint economical teams that our labor union leaders always love.


That all, Obama, is very simply for folks to comprehend ... and it
just the way things have been my entire lifetime of over 66 years in
The USA.


So when all the mass media all says that you, Obama, appointed an
economical team that Wall Street simply loves ... it means that you
have decided to become a fucking, low life Republican!

If you were a Democrat, Obama, all the mass media would have been
saying that you had appointed an economical team that all of our labor
union leaders simply love.

Well, I do NOT give money to any fucking low life Republicans, Obama,
therefore you need to REFUND MY MONEY!


ALL of our corporate owned mass media is CRIMINALLY CENSORED TO
BRAINWASH ALL AMERICANS, Obama, a fact of life. And they simply
forgot to tell Americans that The Clintons and their regime, including
Larry Summers, did decide to all become REPUBLICANS. Democrat
President FDR regulated everything ... and REPUBLICANS like Rush
Limbaugh have said a zillion times that they would deregulate
everything ... undo all things that FDR has done including
regulation. The Clintons and their regime, decided to become
REPUBLICANS, join The Republican Party, and they deregulated banking,
they deregulated the mass media, they deregulated trade by doing
NAFTA, The WTO, etc., and they cooked the books for that REPUBLICAN
RACIST PIG JEW Alan Greenspan to criminally steal all of the money out
of Social Security checks, etc.

Our corporate owned mass media just keeps forgetting to tell ALL
Americans that The Clintons and their regime decided to become
REPUBLICANS by doing all kinds of things that ONLY Republicans would
do.

But it is still all about that age old problem of LABOR VS MANAGEMENT,
Obama.

And ONLY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS appoint economical teams that Wall
Street LOVES.

And the DEMOCRATS they all still appoint economical teams that our
labor union leaders simply love!


When you, Obama, decided to put all of those Clinton regime folks into
your own administration, you filled up your entire administration with
God damned fucking low life REPUBLICANS ... The Clintons and their
regime, including Larry Summers, simply decided all to be REPUBLICANS!


I did tell you, Obama, over and over again, that you had to become a
PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT, a second FDR, an educator, etc. PEOPLE'S means
you must take the LABOR SIDE ONLY ... always be firmly, solidly on the
side of LABOR, the workers, the middle class, the working poor, the
truly needy, etc. That means that you can ONLY have TRADITIONAL
DEMOCRATS in your Cabinet, administration, on your economical team,
etc. TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATS used to be called LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ...
until The Republicans brainwash people to have that word "LIBERAL" so
they decided to call themselves "PROGRESSIVES"!


I do not understand why you have decided to become a fucking low life
REPUBLICAN like The Clintons and their regime, including Larry
Summers, decided to do, Obama. I told you over and over again to
not do that ... I told you to be a PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT ... Democrats
are the ones who are always on the side of The People ... The
Republicans are always on the side of business, Wall Street, etc.

YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE A FUCKING ARMED REVOLUTION, CLASS WAR, Obama,
therefore just stop your insane bullshit immediately please, and
become a PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT! The USA has had thirty years of
Reaganomics, supply side economics, making the rich, forever richer,
swifting the tax burden off of the rich and unto the non rich,
deregulation of everything including the deregulation of trade, which
is called free trade, etc. The USA has had thirty years of
MANAGEMENT RULING ... the rich and their money making enterprises and
their Wall Street, businesses, etc., ruling. The People CANNOT
ENDURE ANY MORE, so they worked their asses off to put you into
office, gave you their money, record breaking amounts of their money,
to have LABOR RULING!

You do NOT have to be a brain surgeon or a rocket scientists to know
who is a Democrat and who is a Republican, Obama, no joke! If a
person is on the side of labor, the working class, the working poor,
the truly needy, labor unions, etc., they are Democrats. If a person
is on the side of management, which is Wall Street, businesses, the
rich and their money making enterprises, etc., they are Republicans.


LABOR UNIONS, WORKERS, HATE FREE TRADE AND GLOBALIZATION, THE OUT
SOURCING OF JOBS, etc., Obama, because in that endless war of labor
vs. management, they are on the LABOR, The DEMOCRATIC SIDE!

When you said to that joint session of Congress that you now support
FREE TRADE AND GLOBALIZATION, Obama, you did DECLARE YOURSELF A
REPUBLICAN ... just like when you appointed and economical team that
WALL STREET LOVES!

What happens when both of our only two major political parties, Obama,
decide to become CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITORS? Oh, we end up with
an ARMED REVOLUTION, a fucking CLASS WAR. Why? Well, who are those
CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITORS? Corporate fascism is when our
government merges with corporations ... when BOTH Democrats and
Republicans merge with corporations ... and we end up with a
DICTATORSHIP OF OUR CORPORATIONS .... so who are our corporations ...
the RICH CEO's and The RICH WHO OWN THEM ... THE RICH BECOME
DICTATORS ... we end up all living under a DICTATORSHIP OF OUR
CORPORATIONS ... OF OUR RICH WHO ARE THEIR CEO'S AND WHO OWN THOSE
CORPORATIONS!

When The Clintons and their regime decided to become REPUBLICANS,
decided to become REPUBLICAN CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITORS, Obama,
that was extremely DANGEROUS ... it is a set up to have a fucking
ARMED SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION, a fucking CLASS WAR to butcher off
our entire Rich and Ruling Class, along with all Jews and clergy ...
all of those PREDATORS who live like blood suckers off of the hard
work of the working peoples!

The USA ended up with ONE POLITICAL PARTY, THE CORPORATE FASCIST
POLITICAL PARTY, when The Clintons were in office, Obama. A
DICTATORSHIP OF THE RICH CEO's and THE RICH WHO OWN OUR CORPORATIONS
and their CORPORATE FASCIST FEDERAL POLITICIANS CAME INTO BEING! A
TOTALITARIAN ONE PARTY SYSTEM CAME INTO BEING, Obama, OF THE RICH, BY
THE RICH, and FOR THE RICH .. and JEWS, also, our richest and most
politically powerful group ... and totally fuck all other Americans
over completely!

That is exactly what The Clintons and their regime did do, Obama, like
it or not!

That always causes a BACKLASH ... The People decide to REVOLT and
simply butcher off the entire Rich and Ruling Class, along with all
Jews and big name clergy ... and TAKE BACK THEIR USA!

DANGER, Obama, EXTREMELY DANGER, is what The Clintons and their regime
did bring about!

And so, when I asked you to run for The US Presidency, I told you that
you must be a SECOND PRESIDENT FDR, a PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT, and an
EDUCATOR. YOU MUST EDUCATE ALL AMERICANS TO RECREATE THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY ... the party of LABOR UNIONS, of working class people, of the
working poor, of the truly needy, etc., and bring back into being that
traditional Democratic Party!


A Democratic US President, Obama, would never, ever do free trade,
never ever do NAFTA, The WTO, etc. They ALWAYS represent LABOR, our
labor unions, working class peoples, etc., and they are against free
trade, NAFTA, The WTO, etc.


You do NOT have to be a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist, Obama, to
understand this all! It is all very easy stuff!


To PREVENT A CLASS WAR, Obama, you must be a President like FDR, JFK,
etc., and solidly on the side of our workers. You must have an
economical team that does NOT make Wall Street happy, but that makes
our LABOR UNION LEADERS HAPPY. Just think: LABOR VS MANAGEMENT,
Obama, and ALWAYS BE VERY SOLIDLY ON THE SIDE OF LABOR IN ALL THINGS
THAT YOU DO, ALWAYS! On the side of the middle class, the working
class, the working poor, the truly needy, etc., those folks who are
traditionally Democrats.

Oh, but the Rockefellers and their Rich Man's Mafia brainwashed
Americans with that religious hoax bullshit ... so we went from GOD IS
DEAD and no Americans going to church at the end of WWII to having
that no morals at all Moral Majority? TRUE! Then them and The
Republicans entered into a treasonous deal ... if they vote for
Republicans, the Republicans, using illegal means, make their religion
our national religion! And so we had a huge number of non rich
Americans voting against their very own economical interests.
Right! Members of that no morals at all Moral Majority believe that
if they do not outlaw all abortions, all birth control, etc., God will
damn them, The USA, etc., and we shall all, including them, burn in
HELL forever! So we get insane bastards murdering abortion doctors
and not caring if they get executed when caught, because they believe
that God will give them a center, front row seat in their HEAVEN for
having murdered an abortion doctor! Rockefellers and their Mafia
have been trying hard to get rid of that no morals at all Moral
Majority that they did create and then lost control of.


Oh well, that bullshit treasonous conspiracy of Republicans with that
no morals at all Moral Majority of insane delusional religious
crazies, to overthrow our democracy to make their religion our
national religion, PLUS REAGANOMICS making our Rich insanely rich, and
therefore making all non rich extremely poor, too poor to have money
to donate to politicians, forced all politicians to accept huge
amounts of money from the lobbyists of our corporations. The
Clintons thought that Democrats could no longer get elected ... so
they because REPUBLICANS ... joined The Republicans in becoming
CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITOR REPUBLICANS ... and our entire democracy
got completely overthrown by a very bad case of CORPORATE FASCISM ...
the merging of our corporations with our federal government ... so we
have a DICTATORSHIP OF OUR CORPORATIONS OVERTHROWING OUR DEMOCRACY ...
or more exactly a DICTATORSHIP OF THE RICH CEO'S WHO HEAD OUR
CORPORATIONS AND THE RICH WHO OWN OUR CORPORATIONS OVERTHROWING OUR
DEMOCRACY.

OF THE RICH, BY THE RICH, and FOR THE RICH ONLY and their money making
enterprises, and make sure you always include JEWS because they are
our richest and more politically powerful group in The USA today!

Trade got deregulated, banking got deregulated, the mass media got
deregulated, the books got cooked to hell, and Jews got both Hamas and
Hezbollah, who were no danger at all to The USA, put on The USA's shit
list of terrorist groups, which should never, ever have happened, as
it totally polarizes that bullshit in the middle east completely!


The Clintons caused a DICTATORSHIP OF OUR RICH AND THEIR CORPORATIONS
THAT THEY HEAD AND OWN TO OVERTHROW OUR DEMOCRACY, Obama, and that is
always EXTREMELY DANGEROUS! Why?

Because it always causes a huge BACKLASH ... the huge majority of
Americans are NOT RICH ... and a backlash occurs and they simply
decide to BUTCHER OUR ENTIRE RICH AND RULING CLASS, along with all
Jews and big name clergy ... those PREDATORS who live like blood
suckers off of the non rich, who enslave the non rich under their
CORPORATE FASCISM!


TO PREVENT THAT BACKLASH, an armed SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION, a
fucking class war, Obama, when I asked you to run for The US
Presidency, I repeatedly told you that you would have to be a SECOND
PRESIDENT FDR, a PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT and an EDUCATOR. You know, a
tradition Democrat, one who solidly unites with our labor union
leaders, our working class, our working poor, our middle class, our
truly needy, and is AGAINST THE RICH AND THEIR MONEY MAKING
CORPORATIONS, THEIR WALL STREET, etc.

You need not be a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon, Obama, all you
need to really know is LABOR VS MANAGEMENT and YOU ARE TO ALWAYS BE ON
THE SIDE OF LABOR!

Just fire your current economical team that WALL STREET LOVES and
replace it with all traditional Democrats who LABOR UNION LEADERS
SIMPLY LOVE!

You are supposed to be, Obama, giving your great speeches to re-
establish our TRADITIONAL DEMOCRACY PARTY ... that is pro middle
class, pro labor, pro labor unions, pro workers, pro working poor, pro
truly needy, etc. You know that traditional DEMOCRATIC bullshit,
like POWER TO THE PEOPLE, THE WORKERS, etc., and FUCK BIG MONEY!

The USA cannot have ONE POLITICAL PARTY, Obama, The Republican
Corporate Fascist Party ... like The Clintons and their regime have
been trying to create when they decided to become Republicans and do
all of those things that ONLY Republicans do ... that is EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS! That leaves no one in Washington DC on the side of the
huge democratic majority of Americans, who are NOT RICH, who are
working class, who are middle class, who are working poor, who are our
truly needy, etc. That can only cause a HUGE BACKLASH against our
Rich and Ruling Class, A CLASS WAR.

The God damned Clintons and their regime were all MORONS to have
decided to become REPUBLICANS and join The Republicans in being
CORPORATE FASCISTS PIG TRAITORS and being against the huge democratic
majority of Americans, who are not rich!


Why do I keep writing about this matter, Obama, as if I have a
psychotic obsessions with it all? Oh, because what I see you doing
is causing a fucking ARMED SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION ... a fucking
CLASS WAR, to get our entire Rich and Ruling Class, along with all
Jews and big name clergy, BUTCHERED!

You must UNDO ALL OF REAGANOMICS including its deregulation of
everything, including the deregulation of trade, i.e., free trade, ...
get rid of free trade. You must undo those huge tax cuts that Reagan
gave to The Rich. You must un-cook those books and use traditional
methods to bring inflation down. Etc. Why? Because the bullshit
you are currently doing will totally destroy our entire entire economy
AS YOU ALSO CAUSE A CLASS WAR!

Instead of allowing WALL STREET corporate fascist pig traitors, who
took part in overthrowing our democracy, pick your economical team,
Obama, you need to allow our LABOR UNION LEADERS TO PICK YOUR
ECONOMICAL TEAM ... just make sure your economical team only has on it
TRADITIONAL PRO LABOR DEMOCRATS! Get The USA to return to the TWO
PARTY SYSTEM, Obama, that The Clintons completely destroyed when their
and their regime, including Larry Summers, all decided to become
CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITOR REPUBLICANS ... and become The PUPPETS
of our RICH CEO's and our RICH WHO OWN OUR CORPORATIONS and their
DICTATORSHIP which completely overthrew our sacred democracy!


I hate to say it, Obama, but Democratic US President ALWAYS appoint
their economical teams to make our LABOR UNION LEADERS EXTREMELY HAPPY
and they ONLY SUPPORT ECONOMICAL POLICIES THAT MAKE OUR LABOR UNION
LEADERS EXTREMELY HAPPY, also! If you make them into happy campers,
then the middle class, the working class, the working poor, the truly
needy, etc., are all happy, also. And you absolutely must do that,
Obama, to re-establish our TWO POLITICAL PARTY SYSTEM and if you do
not do it, you are BEGGING for a fucking CLASS WAR and to have our
entire Rich and Ruling Class, along with all JEWS and clergy
butchered!


The American People will never, ever again, Obama, to live under a ONE
PARTY SYSTEM with the only party being CORPORATE FASCIST PIG
TRAITORS ... like occurred when The Clintons were in power! Our
RICH CEO's, who are paid 433 times more then their workers, when they
are only paid 20 times more in England, and 12 times more in Japan, so
not unite with The Rich, who own virtually the entire USA, have
virtually all of its wealth today, and get virtually all of its income
today, DO NOT get to have BOTH OF OUR TWO MAJORITY POLITICAL PARTIES
royally kissing their rich asses and their money making
enterprises ... so that the huge majority of us non rich Americans
have no voice at all, no political power at all, etc.! WE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT ALLOW A TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP OF OUR RICH
TO RULE US!

Now there, Obama, you just fire your current economical team that all
of our corporate mass media says WALL STREET LOVES ... and replace
them all with traditional Democrats who are pro labor, who OUR LABOR
UNIONS LOVE!

And you simply have ALL OF YOUR ECONOMICAL POLICIES BE POLICIES THAT
OUR LABOR UNION LEADERS SIMPLY LOVE ... our working class folks simply
love, our truly needy simply love ... and you become a TRADITIONAL
DEMOCRAT, a PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT ... and you give your great speeches to
sell to ALL Americans the return of our TWO POLITICAL PARTY SYSTEM ...
just EDUCATE THE PEOPLE to become traditional Democrats ... teach them
the JOYS of having a TWO POLITICAL PARTY SYSTEM ... one party for
management, Wall Street, business, etc., and the other party, THE BEST
POLITICAL PARTY having the greatest number of Americans, the workers,
being pro labor, once again!

IF the masses are soon going to KILL THE RICH and their RULING CLASS
PUPPETS, Obama, then common sense says you need to join the side of
the masses ... give them a voice, give them political power, etc., so
that their exists no need to kill The RICH and their RULING CLASS
PUPPETS at all!


It does get to the point, Obama, I do not any longer know what the
hell to say to you, to get you to stop being a PANDERING JACKASS to
The Rich and their FASCIST OVERTHROW OF OUR DEMOCRACY!

Things are really bad, Obama, when all of those traditional Democrats,
call them liberals or progressives, work their asses off for you to
put you into office, give you record breaking amounts of their money,
etc., and then you MORPH into a God damned fucking REPUBLICAN
CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITOR the second you get elected, and continue
the overthrow of our sacred democracy that The Clintons started! The
mass media kept saying that you has the most LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OF
ANYONE IN THE US CONGRESS, that you worked directly with all of those
poor people who were poor because their jobs went overseas with their
factories, etc., etc., etc. Who would have thought that you would
MORPH into The Second Coming of Ronald Reagan and have an economical
team that WALL STREET CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITORS LOVE? I have no
idea that you would decide to become a God damned fucking low life
REPUBLICAN upon being elected and do what only a Republican US
President would do, Obama! I was clueless, totally clueless. I do
NOT even know who to begin to cope with you having decided to become a
REPUBLICAN CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITOR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Did you ask our LABOR UNION LEADERS, all of them, Obama, if you could
appoint an economical team that WALL STREET SIMPLY LOVES? Democratic
US Presidents, only appoint economical teams that our LABOR UNION
LEADERS LOVE!

Did you ask our LABOR UNION LEADERS, all of them, Obama, if you could
have an economical team that simply loves to keep doing REAGANOMICS?
I do not think any them liked Reagan and his Reaganomics at all!

Did you ask our LABOR UNION LEADERS, all of them, Obama, if you could
support FREE TRADE AND GLOBALIZATION? I know they all simply HATE
free trade and globalization!

Etc.

Democratic US Presidents, are always KISSING THE ASSES OF OUR LABOR
UNION LEADERS TO THE NTH DEGREE, Obama, because they are from the
political party that is PRO LABOR!


Nancy Ann Luft

PS: Just REFUND MY MONEY that I donated to you, Obama, because it is
totally against my moral belief system for me to donate any money to a
fucking, God damned low life REPUBLICAN! Sorry, but I am too old to
buy that you are a Democrat ... I know better ... I can still recall
what a Democrat is! ALL of our labor union leaders, Obama, always
love the economical policies of Democratic Presidents, they always
love their economical teams, their administrations, their Cabinets,
etc., because all Democratic US Presidents are always PRO LABOR TO THE
NTH DEGREE ... and therefore they never, ever have an economical team
or any economical policies that WALL STREET LOVES!

PPS: And do NOT hand me any bullshit that you are creating a new kind
of Democratic Party, Obama! Like exactly what kind? THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY ... but we already have one of those, Obama, no shit!


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Here are parts of a post about Mussolini written by a very
anti-Mussolini person. He has done his homework though and cites many
books which are also anti-Mussolini and anti-Fascist. These are some
things they admit:

"He had a profound contempt for those whose overriding ambition was to
be rich. It was a mania, he thought, a kind of disease, and he
comforted himself with the reflection that the rich were rarely happy"
Here Hibbert (1962, p. 47) is describing a lifelong attitude of
Mussolini that continued right into his time as Italy's Prime Minister
- when he refused to take his official salary.

"There was much truth in the comment of a Rome newspaper that the new
fasci did not aim at the defence of the ruling class or the existing
State but wanted to lead the revolutionary forces into the Nationalist
camp so as to prevent a victory of Bolshevism.

even after coming to power, to take drives in the country with his
wife and stop at various
farmhouses on the way for a chat with the family there. He would enjoy
discussing the crops, the weather and all the usual rural topics and
obviously just liked the feeling of being one of the people. His claim
to represent the people was not just theory but heartfelt. And he
never gave up his "anti-bourgeois" rhetoric.

His policies were basically protectionist. He controlled the
exchange-rate of the Italian currency and promoted that old favourite
of the economically illiterate - autarky - meaning that he tried to
get Italy to become wholly self-sufficient rather than rely on foreign
trade. He wanted to protect Italian products from competing foreign
products.

By 1939 he had doubled Italy's grain production from its traditional
level, enabling Italy to cut wheat imports by 75% (Smith, 1967, p.
92).

He made Capri a bird sanctuary (Smith, 1967, p. 84) and in 1926 he
issued a decree reducing the size of newspapers to save wood pulp.
And, believe it or not, he even mandated gasohol - i.e. mixing
industrial alcohol with petroleum products to make fuel for cars
(Smith, 1967, p. 87). Mussolini also disliked the population drift
from rural areas
into the big cities and in 1930 passed a law to put a stop to it
unless official permission was granted

he advocated private enterprise within a strict set of State controls
designed, among other things, to prevent abuse of monopoly power
(Gregor, 1979, Ch. 5).

...a big expansion of public works and a great improvement in social
insurance measures. He also set up the "Dopolavoro" (after work)
organization to give workers cheap recreations of various kinds (cf.
the Nazi Kraft durch Freude movement). His public health measures
(such as the attack on tuberculosis and the setting up of a huge
maternal and child welfare organization) were particularly notable for
their rationality and fficiency and, as such, were rewarded with great
success. For instance, the incidence of uberculosis
dropped dramatically and infant mortality declined by more than 20%
(Gregor, p. 259).
"instituted a programme of public works hitherto unrivalled in modern
Europe. Bridges, canals and roads were built, hospitals and schools,
railway stations and orphanages, swamps were drained and land
reclaimed, forest were planted and universities were endowed."

In 1929 Mussolini and Pope Pius 12th signed the Lateran treaty -
which is still the legal basis for the existence of the Vatican State
to this day - and Pius in fact at one stage
called Mussolini "the man sent by Providence". The treaty recognized
Roman Catholicism as the Italian State religion as well as recognizing
the Vatican as a sovereign state. What Mussolini got in exchange was
acceptance by the church - something that was enormously important in
the Italy of that time.

the great hatred that existed in prewar Germany between the Nazis and
the "Reds". And the early Fascists battled the "Reds" too, of course.

The 1919 election manifesto, for instance, contained policies of
worker control of industry, confiscation of war profits, abolition of
the Stock exchange, land for the
peasants and abolition of the Monarchy and nobility. Further,
Mussolini never ceased to inveigh against "plutocrats".

He wanted a harmonious and united Italy for all Italians of all
classes and was sure that achieving just treatment for the workers
needed neither revolution nor any kind of
artificially enforced equality.

This made Italian Fascism a much more popular creed than Stalin's
Communism. This is perhaps most clearly seen by the always persuasive
"voting with your feet" criterion. Mussolini made no effort to prevent
Italians from emigrating and although some anti-Fascists did, net
emigration actually FELL under Mussolini. Compare this with Stalin and
the Berlin wall.

Mussolini gained power through political rather than revolutionary
means. His famous march on Rome was only superficially revolutionary.
The King of Italy and the army
approved of him because of his pragmatic policies so did not oppose
the march. So this collusion ensured that Mussolini's "revolution" was
essentially bloodless.

His considerable popularity for many years among a wide range of
Italians shows how effective his recipe for achieving that was.

In his "corporate state", Mussolini was the first to create ...a
system of capitalism under tight government control. And his corporate
state was one where the workers had (at least in theory) equal rights
with management.

REFERENCES Amis, M. (2002) Koba the Dread : laughter and the twenty
million.
N.Y.: Talk Miramax
Carsten, F.L. (1967) The rise of Fascism. London: Methuen.
Funk & Wagnall's New Encyclopedia (1983) Funk & Wagnall's
Galbraith, J.K. (1969) The affluent society. 2nd ed. Boston: Houghton
Mifflin.
Gilmour, I.H.J.L. (1978) Inside right. London: Quartet.
Greene, N. (1968) Fascism: An anthology. N.Y.: Crowell.
Gregor, A.J. (1979) Italian Fascism and developmental dictatorship
Princeton, N.J.: Univ. Press.
Hagan, J. (1966) Modern History and its themes. Croydon, Victoria,
Australia: Longmans.
Hibbert, C. (1962) Benito Mussolini Geneva: Heron Books. Herzer, I.
(1989)
The Italian refuge: Rescue of Jews during the holocaust. Washington,
D.C.:
Catholic University of America Press
Horowitz, D. (1998) Up from multiculturalism. Heterodoxy, January.
See:
http://www.cspc.org/het/multicul.htm
Lenin, V.I. (1952) "Left-Wing" Communism, an Infantile Disorder. In:
Selected Works, Vol. II, Part 2. Moscow: Foreign Languages Publishing
House.
Martino, A. (1998) The modern mask of socialism. 15th John Bonython
lecture,
Centre for Independent Studies, Sydney. See
http://www.cis.org.au/Events/JBL/JBL98.htm
Muravchik, J. (2002) Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism
San
Francisco: Encounter Books.
Smith, D.M. (1967) The theory and practice of Fascism. In: Greene, N.
Fascism: An anthology N.Y.: Crowell.
Steinberg, J. (1990) All or nothing: The Axis and the holocaust
London:
Routledge.


http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Here are parts of a post about Mussolini

Here are some of my favorite Mussolini photos.
http://home.comcast.net/~lowe9101/mussolini/d1.htm

This is what happens to fascists, nazis, and nazi supporters.

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Klaus Schadenfreude
> In talk.politics.guns Topaz
>>Here are parts of a post about Mussolini
>
> Here are some of my favorite Mussolini photos.
> http://home.comcast.net/~lowe9101/mussolini/d1.htm
>
> This is what happens to fascists, nazis, and nazi supporters.


Lest we forget,
it's NOT Fascism when LIBs do it....

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/106482.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg

Got TERROR? Thank CLINTON!

It would be wrong to cut off contact with the terror group just because
they may have killed people "in a way that we hate."
-- Bill Clinton'06


"we've got to build a bridge over troubled waters"
-- Clinton'09


"Look at the liars and the propagandists among us"
-- Bill Clinton'09


"We have a simpler, clearer path to the future
than we did when I was there"
Bill Clinton'09


"Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections
since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997)......
In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds
to 70 percent of the vote. There is no other country in the world
I can say that about, certainly not my own."
-- Bill Clinton'05

Nancy Luft

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Greetings!

FASCISM has many menaings. The kind of fascism in our USA today has
nothing at all to do with the kind that Mussolini had.

FASCISM in today's USA is a word that is used to mean that our
democracy has been totally and completely overthrown by our Rich ...
because they own our corporations and they are the rich CEOs of our
corporations ... and they control our federal government.

A DICTATORSHIP OF OUR RICH rules our USA and they have completely
overthrown our Democracy ... that is how that term CORPORATE FASCISM
is currently being used in our USA today. It means that we are
living under a TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP OF OUR RICH and our democracy
no longer exists at all.

The dereguation of trade (free trade), of banking, of our mass media,
of our utilities, etc., is caused by THE DICTATORSHIP OF OUR RICH and
the corporations that they own and head! That are all things that
the huge democratic majority of Americans did not support and would
have to be insane to ever support!


Over eight percent of Americans are NOT RICH, so why would they
support NAFTA, The WTO, etc., that relocates the factories that they
work in, that they have great paying union jobs with great benefits,
to other nations, so they lose their great jobs? The huge eighty
percent of Americans did not support that and they would never, ever
support that. Our government simply got overthrown by our RICH and
The RICH IMPOSED THEIR FREE TRADE UPON ALL NON RICH AMERICANS.
Why? The RICH get a hell of a lot richer if they put their factories
into third world nations and exploit the extremely cheap labor in
those nations ... that increases the PROFITS TO THE RICH enormously!


Nancy Ann Luft

Nancy Luft

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Greetings!


Clinton and terrorism?

Clinton believed that both Hamas and Hezbollah were simply fighting
LIMITED WARFARE against Israel ... with small weapons. Israel used
TERRORISM to found itself ... and Islamics were just doing what those
Jews did to criminally steal that Arab land, in order to get their
land back from those Jews! You really do need to keep your comments
in context!

Clinton, upon leaving office did WARN Bush and Cheney to watch Al
Qaeda ... as Clinton believed that Al Qaeda would attack The USA
soon. If you read about Cheney's The Project of The New American
Century, Cheney wanted a PEARL HARBOR ATTACK OF THE USA ... so use as
an excuse to attack Afghanistan to put a US OIL PIPE LINE THROUGH IT,
to get EXXON'S OIL OUT OF THE CASPIAN SEA ... and Bush and Cheney
wanted to get criminal ownership of ALL middle east OIL, wage wars
against ALL Islamic nations to criminally steal ALL of their oil
fields! Why? Oh, they believed that with The USSR gone, they and
their USA would rule our entire planet and in order to do that they
believed that they had to criminally steal all middle east oil
fields. That is why they LIED to brainwash Americans into attacking
Iraq ... to criminally steal its oil contracts and oil fields.


And so we have Clinton WARNING Bush and Cheney to very carefully watch
Al Qaeda when Clinton went office ... and Bush and Cheney REFUSING to
do that, because they WANTED THE USA ATTACKED!


Try to kick the shit out of Pothead CLINTON for becoming a REPUBLICAN
CORPORATE FASCIST PIG TRAITOR and for deregulating trade, banking,
mass media ... and for cooking those books for that REPUBLICAN JEW
Alan Greenspan if you hate Pothead Clinton, because THE TRUTH always
sells much better then LIES!


Nancy Ann Luft


Lookout

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:03:46 -0700 (PDT), Nancy Luft
<nan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>FASCISM has many menaings. The kind of fascism in our USA today has
>nothing at all to do with the kind that Mussolini had.
>
>FASCISM in today's USA is a word that is used to mean that our
>democracy has been totally and completely overthrown by our Rich ...

You have no idea what fascism is. You really need to get an education
before you try this again.

You're ignorant and therefore no threat to the learned. The only ones
who agree with you are just as dumb as you are.
(look around..you might find bush!!)

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Lookout
>>FASCISM has many meanings. The kind of fascism in our USA today has

>>nothing at all to do with the kind that Mussolini had.
>>
>>FASCISM in today's USA is a word that is used to mean that our
>>democracy has been totally and completely overthrown by our Rich ...
>
> You have no idea what fascism is. You really need to get an education
> before you try this again.
>
> You're ignorant and therefore no threat to the learned. The only ones
> who agree with you are just as dumb as you are.
> (look around..you might find bush!!)


LIBs blame BOOOSH for everything that Clinton is factually guilty of.

Got Terror? Thank Clinton!

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xnt9nA0RiY
What Clinton Didn't Do . . .
. . . .and when he didn't do it.

.... let us examine Mr. Clinton's war on terror. Some 38
days after he was sworn in, al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center. He
did not visit the twin towers that year, even though four days after the
attack he was just across the Hudson River in New Jersey, talking about
job training. He made no attempt to rally the public against terrorism.
His only public speech on the bombing was a few paragraphs inserted into a
radio address mostly devoted to an economic stimulus package. Those stray
paragraphs were limited to reassuring the public and thanking the
rescuers, the kinds of things governors say after hurricanes. He did not
even vow to bring the bombers to justice. Instead, he turned the first
terrorist attack on American soil over to the FBI.

In his Fox interview, Mr. Clinton said "no one knew that al Qaeda existed"
in October 1993, during the tragic events in Somalia. But his national
security adviser, Tony Lake, told me that he first learned of bin Laden
"sometime in 1993," when he was thought of as a terror financier. U.S.
Army Capt. James Francis Yacone, a black hawk squadron commander in
Somalia, later testified that radio intercepts of enemy mortar crews
firing at Americans were in Arabic, not Somali, suggesting the work of bin
Laden's agents (who spoke Arabic), not warlord Farah Aideed's men (who did
not). CIA and DIA reports also placed al Qaeda operatives in Somalia at
the time.

By the end of Mr. Clinton's first year, al Qaeda had apparently attacked
twice. The attacks would continue for every one of the Clinton years.

� In 1994, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (who would later plan the 9/11 attacks)
launched "Operation Bojinka" to down 11 U.S. planes simultaneously over
the Pacific. A sharp-eyed Filipina police officer foiled the plot. The
sole American response: increased law-enforcement cooperation with the
Philippines.

� In 1995, al Qaeda detonated a 220-pound car bomb outside the Office of
Program Manager in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, killing five Americans and
wounding 60 more. The FBI was sent in.

� In 1996, al Qaeda bombed the barracks of American pilots patrolling the
"no-fly zones" over Iraq, killing 19. Again, the FBI responded.

� In 1997, al Qaeda consolidated its position in Afghanistan and bin Laden
repeatedly declared war on the U.S. In February, bin Laden told an Arab TV
network: "If someone can kill an American soldier, it is better than
wasting time on other matters." No response from the Clinton
administration.

� In 1998, al Qaeda simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and
Tanzania, killing 224, including 12 U.S. diplomats. Mr. Clinton ordered
cruise-missile strikes on Afghanistan and Sudan in response. Here Mr.
Clinton's critics are wrong: The president was right to retaliate when
America was attacked, irrespective of the Monica Lewinsky case.

Still, "Operation Infinite Reach" was weakened by Clintonian compromise.
The State Department feared that Pakistan might spot the American missiles
in its air space and misinterpret it as an Indian attack. So Mr. Clinton
told Gen. Joe Ralston, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to
notify Pakistan's army minutes before the Tomahawks passed over Pakistan.
Given Pakistan's links to jihadis at the time, it is not surprising that
bin Laden was tipped off, fleeing some 45 minutes before the missiles
arrived.

� In 1999, the Clinton administration disrupted al Qaeda's Millennium
plots, a series of bombings stretching from Amman to Los Angeles. This
shining success was mostly the work of Richard Clarke, a NSC senior
director who forced agencies to work together. But the Millennium approach
was shortlived. Over Mr. Clarke's objections, policy reverted to the
status quo.

� In January 2000, al Qaeda tried and failed to attack the U.S.S. The
Sullivans off Yemen. (Their boat sank before they could reach their
target.) But in October 2000, an al Qaeda bomb ripped a hole in the hull
of the U.S.S. Cole, killing 17 sailors and wounding another 39.

When Mr. Clarke presented a plan to launch a massive cruise missile strike
on al Qaeda and Taliban facilities in Afghanistan, the Clinton cabinet
voted against it. After the meeting, a State Department counterterrorism
official, Michael Sheehan, sought out Mr. Clarke. Both told me that they
were stunned. Mr. Sheehan asked Mr. Clarke: "What's it going to take to
get them to hit al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Does al Qaeda have to attack the
Pentagon?"

There is much more to Mr. Clinton's record--how Predator drones, which
spotted bin Laden three times in 1999 and 2000, were grounded by
bureaucratic infighting; how a petty dispute with an Arizona senator
stopped the CIA from hiring more Arabic translators. While it is easy to
look back in hindsight and blame Bill Clinton, the full scale and nature
of the terrorist threat was not widely appreciated until 9/11. Still: Bill
Clinton did not fully grasp that he was at war. Nor did he intuit that war
requires overcoming bureaucratic objections and a democracy's natural
reluctance to use force. That is a hard lesson. But it is better to learn
it from studying the Clinton years than reliving them.


This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
The LIB's Depraved NEW WORLD.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/420.jpg
CLINTON's LEGACY: Something about His Mom, and a Cigar.
DEPRAVITY, UNLEASHED!

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1847723,00.html
Putting Bill Clinton On the Couch
Monica Lewinsky represented something very important to Clinton
psychologically. She looked like his mother, Virginia, who had
recently died. Clinton kept saying how much she reminded him of
his mother.

Monica kept saying she felt like she was having a relationship with a
lost little boy. This is the President of the United States. She was an
intern. Yet she felt maternal in her relationship with him.

Lookout

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:17:17 GMT, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:

>Lookout
>>>FASCISM has many meanings. The kind of fascism in our USA today has
>>>nothing at all to do with the kind that Mussolini had.
>>>
>>>FASCISM in today's USA is a word that is used to mean that our
>>>democracy has been totally and completely overthrown by our Rich ...
>>
>> You have no idea what fascism is. You really need to get an education
>> before you try this again.
>>
>> You're ignorant and therefore no threat to the learned. The only ones
>> who agree with you are just as dumb as you are.
>> (look around..you might find bush!!)
>
>
>LIBs blame BOOOSH for everything that Clinton is factually guilty of.

Please define "libs"

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Lookout
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:17:17 GMT, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
>>Lookout
>>>>FASCISM has many meanings. The kind of fascism in our USA today has
>>>>nothing at all to do with the kind that Mussolini had.
>>>>
>>>>FASCISM in today's USA is a word that is used to mean that our
>>>>democracy has been totally and completely overthrown by our Rich ...
>>>
>>> You have no idea what fascism is. You really need to get an education
>>> before you try this again.
>>>
>>> You're ignorant and therefore no threat to the learned. The only ones
>>> who agree with you are just as dumb as you are.
>>> (look around..you might find bush!!)
>>
>>
>>LIBs blame BOOOSH for everything that Clinton is factually guilty of.
>
> Please define "libs"
>
>>Got Terror? Thank Clinton!
...

LIBs are a movement that sprang from
Clinton's THIRD WAY (to steal your wallet).


It is a political philosophy based in triangulation,
of prevarication, of willfully pitting Man against other Men
until we exist no more.

This is why.
LIBs reward the Guilty,
they Punish the Innocent,
they Champion the Mediocre, the Unworthy and the Depraved
on the basis of their Mediocrity, their Unworthiness, their Depravity.


Bill Clinton was it's chief exemplar,
who never hesitated to use Military Force
upon his own people, while undergoing endless
recrimination when he had no other choice but to do so to our Adversaries.

This is why LIBs not only
sponsor our Adversaries but actively defend them as well.

They are
Those who believe that Political Power Grow out the Barrel of a Gun,
Those who believe that a Rock Throwing Thug just needs Love,
Those who believe that a Suicide Bomber can't help it,
Those who believe that one person's success
can ONLY come at the expense of another
and that some must be sacrificed that others may live.


They are those who have given us a World Safe for Socialism,
which is a World where no one's Rights are secure,
because anyone can get away with anything in
the name of gov't.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=826&kaid=85&subid=65
A World Safe For Socialism


This is why a fact based memorial to 911 would be
incomplete without a 40ft statue of Hillary with
Bill on a Leash pissing all over the American Flag
while she read newsweek and listen to the Sean Penn
"Death to America" broadcast, live from Tehran.


LIBs.
What Price their Vision?
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/14028.JPG


Isn't *THIS* the Village it take?
The Road to Tyranny begins with the Destruction of the Truth
-- Bill Clinton'95


"Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections
since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997)......
In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds
to 70 percent of the vote. There is no other country in the world
I can say that about, certainly not my own.�
-- Bill Clinton'05

This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100294.jpg

LIB strategic insanity can, and must, be opposed.
http://www.frootandbee.org/pictures/anime.gif
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/122975.gif

Lookout

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I'm sure you think that was all worthwhile.
You're as whacked as nancy(boy).

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Lookout
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:42:06 GMT, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
>>Lookout
>>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:17:17 GMT, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
>>>>LIBs blame BOOOSH for everything that Clinton is factually guilty of.
>>>
>>> Please define "libs"
>>>
>>>>Got Terror? Thank Clinton!
...
> I'm sure you think that was all worthwhile.


Why do LIBs think it is worthwhile to
Quiver at the Hypothesis of Global Warming
while dismissing the fact and imminent threat of Nuclear Iran?

Topaz

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Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"The fight which Fascist Italy waged against Jewry's three
principal weapons, the profound reasons for which may not of been
consciously understood (though I do not believe this myself) furnishes
the best proof that the poison fangs of that Power which transcends
all State boundaries are being drawn, even though in an indirect way.
The prohibition of Freemasonry and secret societies, the suppression
of the supranational Press and the definite abolition of Marxism,
together with the steadily increasing consolidation of the Fascist
concept of the State--all this will enable the Italian Government, in
the course of some years, to advance more and more the interests of
the Italian people without paying any attention to the hissing of the
Jewish world-hydra.
"The English situation is not so favorable. In that country
which has 'the freest democracy' the Jew dictates his will, almost
unrestrained but indirectly, through his influence on public opinion."

Topaz

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The Riddle of the Jew's Success
F. Roderich-Stoltheim (T. Fritsch)

This rare and valuable book provides a detailed analysis of Jewish
behavior and thinking. A reprint of the English-language edition of
1927. After Germany's defeat in 1945, this book was banned by the
Allied occupation authorities, and nearly all copies were destroyed.
Written by the influential German publicist Theodor Fritsch, it
appeared under a pen name. This book helps in understanding the scope
and intensity of anti-Jewish feeling in Germany during the 1920s and
1930s.


Here are some quotes:

"When in the year 1890, a petition was sent from the anti-Jewish camp
to a number of Imperial and local authorities, containing the request
that a commission of independent savants should be appointed, whose
duty would be to examine carefully the passages in dispute, in not a
single instance was the request granted. The Prussian Ministry of
Culture dismissed any such step as 'impracticable'. If one compares
the thoroughness with which the morality of the Jesuits has been and
is still discussed in public, one if forced to accept the view, that
the zealous friends of truth and opponents of those, who work in an
obscure and devious manner, know how to restrain their zeal for
enlightenment in a truly remarkable way so far as the Jews are
concerned.

The position is thus a very peculiar one. This much is established:
The German national representative bodies and governments have given
the Jews equal civic rights, and have recognized them as a separate
religious community, without making any inquiry whether the moral
instruction of the Jews is compatible with the welfare of the state."


"Many people consider themselves very clever when they impart advice
to the merchant, who complains he is unable to hold his own against
the Jews: do the same as the Jew! In reality this amounts to the
following: do no recognize any religious motives whatever in your mode
of doing business, and descend to the level of a low money-grubber and
voluptary.
The economic principle of the Jew threatens to trample under foot, in
our time, all the higher principles of life."

Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
> Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
>

Why would anyone care?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

Hitler, half wit and loser. No WONDER you love him!

In view of his long service and the shortage of officers in the German
Army, the fact that Hitler never rose above the rank of corporal
aroused curiosity and was much discussed in the German Press before
1933. There is no evidence that Hitler ever applied or was eager for
promotion to the rank of non-commissioned officer, leave alone a
commission. Probably he impression of eccentricity which he continued
to give was no recommendation.

While not unpopular with his comrades, they felt he did not share
their interests or attitude to the war. He did not care about leave or
women. He was silent when the others grumbles about the time they had
to spend in the trenches or the hardships. Konrad Heiden, in his book
'Der Fuhrer," says 'We all cursed him and found him intolerable.'

Michael Ejercito

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On Jun 22, 1:46 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Riddle of the Jew's Success
They WORK.

Work is an alien concept to Nazis.


Michael

Topaz

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Here is part of an essay by Dr. Robert Ley:

"Who concerned himself with creating good workplaces before? Today the
"Beauty in Labor Office" sees to it that productive people work in
worthy surroundings, not in dirty workplaces. The "Kraft durch Freude"
organization provides German workers with vacations and relaxation.
They travel to the mountains and the beach, and have the chance, often
for the first time, to explore their beautiful fatherland. They travel
in their own ships to the magical southern seas and countries, or to
the splendid beauty of the north. Each German citizen today enjoys the
wonderful achievements of German theater and German music, the best
German orchestras, the best German operas, theaters and films.
Citizens listen to the radio, and play any kind of sport they wish.

There new activities result not in dissipation, distraction and
carnal pleasure, rather in genuine pleasure in physical activity,
nature and culture. He who works hard should be able to enjoy life too
so that he better appreciates his people. The specter of unemployment
no longer haunts the nation. Millions have already found work again,
and those who still have not are cared for by the entire nation. Labor
representatives see to it that the rights of workers and their honor
are not violated, and the factory manager is as responsible for his
employees and they are responsible with him for the success of the
plant in which they together work...

Everyone knows that there is only one man to thank, Adolf Hitler, the
creator of National Socialism, who put the common good above the
individual good, who replaced class struggle of "above and below" and
"right and left" with a new message of the honor of labor and of
service to the people. The National Socialist Labor Service will see
to it that this teaching that makes the German worker the bearer of
the state never vanishes. It is seeing to it that every German
citizen, whatever his occupation may be, first works with his hands
for the good of the nation."

Topaz

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MUNICH

SPEECH OF APRIL 24, 1923

. . . I REJECT the word 'Proletariat.' The Jew who coined the word
meant by 'Proletariat,' not the oppressed, but those who work with
their hands. And those who work with their intellects are stigmatized
bluntly as 'Bourgeois.' It is not the character of a man's life which
forms the basis of this classification, it is simply the occupation -
whether a man works with his brain or with his body. And in this
turbulent mass of the hand-workers the Jew recognized a new power
which might perhaps be his instrument for the gaining of that which is
his ultimate goal: World supremacy, the destruction of the national
States.

And while the Jew 'organizes' these masses, he organizes business,
too, at the same time. Business was depersonalized, i.e., Judaized.
Business lost the Aryan character of work: it became an object of
speculation. Master and man were torn asunder . . . and he who created
this class division was the same person who led the masses in their
opposition to this class division, led them not against his Jewish
brethren, but against the last remnants of independent national
economic life.

And these remnants, the bourgeoisie which also was already Judaized,
resisted the great masses who were knocking at the door and demanding
better conditions of life. And so the Jewish leaders succeeded in
hammering into the minds of the masses the Marxist propaganda: 'Your
deadly foe is the bourgeoisie; if he were not there, you would be
free.' If it had not been for the boundless blindness and stupidity of
our bourgeoisie the Jew would never have become the leader of the
German working-classes. And the ally of this stupidity was the pride
of the 'better stratum' of society which thought it would degrade
itself if it condescended to stoop to the level of the 'Plebe.' The
millions of our German fellow countrymen would never have been
alienated from their people if the leading strata of society had shown
any care for their welfare.

You must say farewell to the hope that you can expect any action from
the parties of the Right on behalf of the freedom of the German
people. The most elementary factor is lacking: the will, the courage,
the energy. Where then can any strength still be found within the
German people? It is to be found, as always, in the great masses:
THERE ENERGY IS SLUMBERING AND IT ONLY AWAITS THE MAN WHO WILL SUMMON
IT FROM ITS PRESENT SLUMBER AND WILL HURL IT INTO THE GREAT BATTLE FOR
THE DESTINY OF THE GERMAN RACE.

The battle which alone can liberate Germany will be fought out with
the forces which well up from the great masses. Without the help of
the German workingman you will never regain a German Reich. Not in our
political salons lies the strength of the nation, but in the hand, in
the brain, and in the will of the great masses. Now as ever:
Liberation does not come down from above, it will spring up from
below.... If we today make the highest demands upon everyone, that is
only in order that we may give back to him and to his child the
highest gift: Freedom and the respect of the rest of the world....

The parties of the Right have lost all energy: they see the flood
coming, but their one longing is just for once in their lives to form
a Government. Unspeakably incapable, utterly lacking in energy,
cowards all - such are all these bourgeois parties and that at the
moment when the nation needs heroes -not chatterers.

In the Left there is somewhat more energy, but it is used for the ruin
of Germany. The Communists on principle reject the discipline imposed
by the State: in its stead they preach party discipline: they reject
the administration of the State as a bureaucracy, while they fall on
their knees before the bureaucracy of their own Movement. There is
arising a State within the State which stands in deadly enmity against
the State which we know, the State of the community of the people.
This new State ultimately produces men who reject with fanaticism
their own people so that in the end Foreign Powers find in them their
allies. Such is the result of Marxist teaching....

What we want is not a State of drones but a State which gives to
everyone that to which on the basis of his own activity he has a
right. He who refuses to do honest work shall not be a citizen of the
State. The State is not a plantation where the interests of foreign
capital are supreme. Capital is not the master of the State, but its
servant. Therefore the State must not be brought into dependence on
international loan capital. And if anyone believes that that cannot be
avoided, then do not let him be surprised that no one is ready to give
his life for this State. Further, that greatest injustice must be
corrected which today still weighs heavily upon our people and upon
almost all peoples. If in a State only he who does honest work is a
citizen, then everyone has the right to demand that in his old age he
shall be kept free from care and want. That would mean the realization
of the greatest social achievement.

Adolf Hitler

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The Hitler We Loved and Why , Eric Thomson

What, other than love, can explain the German people's glad welcome
of this humble, but thoroughly dedicated savior from the Eastern
Marches?

What, other than love, can explain how the people of greater Germany
remained with him in bad times and in good, for better or for worse?
What, other than love, can explain the fact that those who remember
him love him still?

We loved him because he stood for the best that was in us, and as our
Leader, demanded of us our best. It was never Hitler's Germany. It
shall always be: Germany's Hitler, the man loved by his people.

This is why we loved him...

We loved him because he loved us and our children.

We loved him so much that we, the young and not so young, made
pilgrimages to his home in the Alps - not to ask him for favors, but
merely to catch a glimpse of him and to be near him.

We loved him because he was a good listener and lived simply.

We loved him because he spoke the unspoken thoughts of our souls in
such a way that all could understand. He did not "over-simplify" our
problems. He clarified them. He did not beguile us with cheap
solutions and easy panaceas, for there were none. He did not
"guarantee" us a better world. He asked us to FIGHT for one. Fight we
did, for we who heard him knew he was right.

We loved him because he was honest. He did not expound the supposed
virtues of democracy and then corrupt the process with purchased
votes.

We loved him, not because he was a "great dictator", but because he
was a great teacher, a living example of the order he preached.
Without order, nothing can exist. How well we who had suffered knew
this lesson! But when there is no basis for instruction, no racial
pattern, no heredity, the lesson of order cannot be learned, no
matter how brilliant the instructor. He taught us this all-important
truth of Race. Hitler's inspiration kindled our racial potential for
construction and creativity. His order was not imposed upon us. It
came from within.

We loved Hitler because he was a White Man. He practiced our White
virtues of forthright honesty and his actions matched his words. If
something was filth, he disposed of it as filth with sanitary
thoroughness. He did not enshrine the excrescence of sick minds. He
was not ashamed to burn shameful enemy propaganda which was aimed at
the destruction of our souls.

He was not like our racial enemy and his democratic stooges who
preached freedom of the press and practiced suppression.

We loved him because he replaced the wasteful idleness of our penal
system with productive labor and punishment with redemption. Even
habitual criminals fulfilled useful roles in our society, roles which
even they could look upon with pride. Not only did he save us from
them, he saved them for us.

We loved him because he protected us from religious charlatans --
preachers for profit who posed as prophets of God in order to batten
like vampires on the trust of simple believers.

We loved him because he defended us against the racial enemy's
campaign to spread perversion among us. He knew that sexual
perversion was poison and that enough of it could kill any race.

We thanked him for removing from circulation the many Jew smut
publications which championed all manner of sexual deviation,
including abortion, in the name of "freedom of the press."

We loved him because he removed our alien dominators and place them
back among their own kind.

We loved him because he freed us from those corrupted by gold and
replaced them with able and incorruptible men.

We loved him because he did not surround himself with persons who
sought idle privilege, but who sought instead the privilege of
serving us. No means of helping our people was too humble for our
"high and mighty" leaders. We contributed freely, for we loved our
leaders almost as much as we did our Leader.

We loved him because he made our police force work for us, not
against us. Our young learned that our police were not against us,
but a necessary help in the establishment of a healthy society.
Certainly, all available help was necessary to protect the honest
citizens from the machinations of traitors, secret societies and
minority pressure groups. We supported our police because they were
German police, working for German government. Thus, we required far
fewer police to "maintain public order" under Hitler than we do
today, under alien domination.

We loved him because he did not persecute our enemies, but prosecuted
them. without fear or favor, according to law -- our law.

We loved him because he saved us from the alien invaders who promoted
the extinction of our Race, the White Race.

We loved him because he kept our entertainment media free of the
perversion of race-mixing and race suicide.

We loved him because he used the entertainment media to educate us
about life and true values. The themes were uplifting in ways which
were never dull. Best of all, they were OUR plays and films, by OUR
people.

We loved him because he taught us the truth about Race and proved,
even to skeptics, that the White Race is the founder of all great
cultures and civilizations and that race-mixing is the great
destroyer.

We loved him because he hid nothing from us. He was confident in our
strength to face the worst atrocities our enemies had to offer -- and
surmount them with courage and determination.

We loved him because he taught our Fellow White men, the Poles, the
truth about their Jewish Soviet "liberators." He showed the world the
ghastly face of communism by revealing the Katyn Forest Massacre of
the Polish officer corps and by proving forever the guilt of the
Soviet system.

We loved him because he had bold plans which benefited man and
harmonized with nature.

We loved him because he gave us the best roads in the world, envied
and emulated by other peoples ever since. Not only did he give us
roads, but a cheap, practical car to run on them, the Volkswagen: the
People's Car.

We loved him for giving us honest money and thereby saving our jobs,
our homes and our industry. He made our lives not only bearable, but
fruitful.

We loved him because he did the Work of the Lord, by driving the
money-changers out of our country. He taught us that true wealth is
not based on gold nor upon credit. but upon the productivity of our
land and people. Honest money is only possible with honest men. No
system of law or gold can protect us from criminals in government.
There is no substitute for honest men.

We loved him because he wrested the creation of our money away from
the Jews, like his American predecessor, Abraham Lincoln. He restored
our economy to peacetime prosperity. It was not preparation for war
that ended our depression. Where the Jews retained their money power,
the depression worsened. Unemployment rose drastically in America and
Britain at this time. As the British military strategist, Liddell
Hart, maintained: The last thing Hitler wanted was war. But war came
at last. and none too soon for the Jewish bankers! War was declared
by
Britain in 1939, but little fighting occurred. Britain announced
Jewish terms for ending the war: Kill Hitler and return to the
international gold standard. For Germany, the choice was certain
death by starvation or possible death in battle.

The Jewish bankers had created massive unemployment in our country,
just as they had done in England, France, America and throughout the
world. They did this by decreasing the supply of money, which our
racial renegade governments had allowed them to control entirely.

Before Hitler came to power, 7 million Germans were unemployed and
over 6 million only partially employed. In the four bleak years from
1929 to 1933, despair and hopelessness caused the death by suicide of
some 250,000 of our people.

We loved him because he freed us from dire dependency on the whims
and vagaries of foreign suppliers of domestic necessities. He taught
us that political independence was possible only with economic
independence.

In 4 years, from 1933 to 1937, he made us virtually self-sufficient
in the production of steel, aluminum, chemicals, petroleum and
general industrial production.

We loved him because he had a deep reverence for our past. A people
whose roots are strong cannot be toppled by gusts of fad, fashion and
foolish innovation.

We loved him because he was a deeply spiritual man who did not allow
the Jews to confuse Christian teachings. Over 40% of the SS were
Catholics.

We loved him because he built churches for us. Christian churches. In
the name of Christianity, our enemies destroyed these churches, later
bragging about the "precision" of their bombing raids. Today, Rabbis
lecture in "Christian" schools. The Talmud of the Jews, their "holy
book." describes non-Jews as "beasts of the field" and "cattle." The
Jews have not changed. Why have the Christians changed?

We loved him because he reaffirmed the goodness and the wisdom of
wholesome work and wholesome food.

We loved him because he trusted his people. He did not find it
necessary to restrict firearms ownership. No true Leader need fear
the armed members of his Race.

We loved him because he taught us to appreciate beauty by creating it
with our own hands. Perfection and excellence were our goals. As we
worked to master our medium, we learned to observe Nature and to
apply Her Laws. Thus did we become artists and also National
Socialists, for National Socialism is simply the application of
Nature's Laws to politics.

We loved him because he encouraged the sexes to realize their full
potentials, as complementary rather than competitive beings. Men were
made for women and women for men. Each was trained for that which he
or she could do best. This did not mean that men could not be
artistic or creative, nor did it mean that women could not be great
aviatrixes, photographers, film-directors, athletes. etc. It simply
meant that, whatever we did, our men were manly and our women
feminine. Enemy inculcation of sexual role confusion with the aim of
crippling the sexes' role in child-rearing was thus overthrown and
scattered to the winds.

We loved him because he devoted much effort and care to provide the
unborn and parents to-be with a healthy and pleasant environment.
Beginning with healthy young parents, Hitler encouraged good prenatal
care by stressing healthy diet, exercise and freedom from
intoxicants. The unhealthy and the mentally-defective were
discouraged from inflicting more of themselves upon our hard-pressed
population; sterilization was recommended for carriers of genetic
defects. The German people could decide who should have children --
not the Jewish bankers.

We loved him because he protected the rights of the unborn and
because he treated the young with the love and respect they deserve
as our successors and he made them worthy of that love and respect by
training them for responsible adulthood.

We loved him because he brought us Europeans together. With him, we
knew our strength and felt the awesome importance of our Racial
Mission as never before. He brought all of us together, even
Americans, Russians and Britons. White men from all the countries of
Europe joined his ranks to defend the Holy Swastika Banner of our
Race. Because we fought to the end, the destruction of White
Civilization was avoided. Our sacrifice was not in vain!

We loved him because he brought out the best in our fighting men. He
bestowed upon us a new generation of heroes. He was loyal to our
allies and backed his words with action.

We loved him for his greatness in overlooking the mean propaganda
pricks of enemy gadflies.

We loved him for his chivalry, his conduct of war so as to lose as
few White lives as possible -- friend or foe.

We loved him because he honored our heroes. A Race without heroes is
a dead or dying Race. Our White heroes are brave, forthright, strong
and kind. The "heroes" of our racial enemy are cowardly, devious,
weak and cruel. A Race is known by its heroes, because heroes are
examples to cherish and to emulate. Thus do we differ from our racial
enemy, the Jew.

We loved him because his spiritual presence prevented our sufferings
and sorrows from overwhelming us.

He was adored like no other mortal, before or since.

Today, his spirit soars beyond the shores of the White Man's home in
Europe. Wherever we are, he is with us.

HEIL HITLER!

Klaus Schadenfreude

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> The Hitler We Loved and Why , Eric Thomson

We didn't. He was a half wit and liked to play with his own feces.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>Everyone knows that there is only one man to thank, Adolf Hitler, the
>creator of National Socialism, who put the common good above the
>individual good, who replaced class struggle of "above and below" and
>"right and left" with a new message of the honor of labor and of
>service to the people.

Konrad Heiden, in his book 'Der Fuhrer," says 'We all cursed him and
found him intolerable.'

Topaz

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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:16:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
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>Konrad Heiden, in his book 'Der Fuhrer," says 'We all cursed him and
>found him intolerable.'


"I know you expect no deep expression of feelings, for feelings cannot
be clothed in words. But please imagine this: jobless, without any
money. For two years! For four years! For six years! A desperate
woman, broken in body and soul, with three young children.
How often did I see their hungry eyes looking toward me with vain
expectation. Nothing is more tortuous than such looks from children.
My faith in him, the fanatical fighter, was what kept me and mine from
what lured us - and anyone else in our situation - Suicide!

And today?
A happy mother who is always singing with her children. No one can see
in her the miserable, desperate woman she once was. Instead of three
unhappy hollow-cheeked children, four little devils making noise far
and wide.

Look at them! There may be families with better behaved children, but
none with children as cheerful and happy! That is what the F�hrer
means to me and mine.

I turned my back very early to a foreign worldview because it left my
whole life meaningless. The F�hrer gave me his worldview a firm place
to stand, for it is nothing but a knowledge of the eternal laws that
are behind the universe.

His deeds are a joyful fulfillment of these laws. His successes do not
seem to me, as one hears all too often, the result of good luck,
rather as the natural consequences of his nature. This faith, no, this
certainty, enables me to understand the F�hrer when his actions would
otherwise require blind confidence.

Such obvious confidence is the most wonderful feeling that I can
imagine. Admiration? Recognition? Thanks? They are nothing when
compared to the full understanding of a people of 80 million for the
mission of its F�hrer. That alone would be crowning of his sacrificial
struggle.

This fulfillment of this wish is my prayer for the F�hrer."
Fred. Ch., Poppelau

"The F�hrer is everything to us, he is our faith, security and hope.
As a bearer of the blood medal, I have always believed in this man,
who guided and inspired us, who led us in the fight for Germany's
greatness. We, me, my wife and our seven children, believe only in
him, Adolf Hitler. Is there a belief more understandable, more real,
more natural than this?

Has the F�hrer not done everything for us that one could do for the
good of a family? Did he not give me a job and the ability to decently
feed and clothe my family? Has he not given my children a future that
no other country could so easily give?

The F�hrer is with us in every situation! Look, sometimes the world is
hard on a family. There are difficult situations that cannot be
overcome. In just such hours I go to my living room, and there is a
picture of my F�hrer.

I look Adolf Hitler in the face and remember his great struggle, his
great will and accomplishments, and my miserable mood is gone and
thinking of the F�hrer gives me new strength.

How can I fail when I see the greatness in and around Adolf Hitler?
My children know the F�hrer as the man who rules all, arranges all,
who built their world. The F�hrer is the embodiment of what people had
such difficulty describing to us children before. But this is the
enormous difference: The F�hrer moves among the people so that one can
celebrate him, so that our love for him is rewarded through his ever
new deeds.

The F�hrer is hope for us in every situation. Look, my dear comrade,
according to the F�hrer's own words, raising seven children is a great
responsibility to the state and a holy duty.

To form these young souls, to raise them to be decent adults, is such
a wonderful task only because the F�hrer has given us the sure
foundations that are necessary. He is our hope, for only through his
generous measures are we with many children also able to "lead an
decent life," as anyone should be able to do. He protects our strength
through the NSV, through subventions for children, through the support
the state gives women and children, through the high status he gave
children.

Once people mocked those with many children. Today people honor them.
Now my wife and I have become respected members of the state. That is
why we have such hope for the future of our children, for the F�hrer
has provided all that is necessary for them so that they too will be
able to establish families and contribute to the security and
protection of the great Fatherland.

Is it not wonderful to know what a wonderful future awaits our
children. One cannot but remember our own youth during the postwar
period, during the inflation, the days of hunger and so much that had
terrible effects on our youth and development.

Our children have no fears of such things, for they know that our
F�hrer plans everything, foresees everything, and prepares the best
for us.

Is it not obvious why the F�hrer means everything to us?"
Toni Dominik Sch., Unterammergau

"I can still remember the first time I saw and heard the F�hrer in
1920 in the Zirkus Krone in Munich. This was the introduction: "Adolf
Hitler will speak!" A somewhat slight young man stood before me, with
a short coat, soft collar and crumpled tie, poorly clothed. I was
curious to hear what this man had to say to me.

As I heard his voice, the passion of his words (something unheard of
at the time), the growing tension of his words, it became clear to me:
This man or no one! To this day, this inner feeling has not left me.
The greatness of this man, his deeds, his historic successes seem
enormous to me. But yet I always see him as a man of the people, one
of us in my mind's eye. It fills me with pride that Providence choice
one of our brothers to fulfill German history.

I honor the great figures of German history, but my feelings for the
F�hrer are different. I believe that love is the best word to describe
them.

One of us, who came from the people, has done amazing deeds, yet
remained the same from the first day I saw him until today.
I admire this man so much that I would defend him even if he were in
the wrong, but he cannot be wrong since he is truth and justice
themselves."
Gr. F., Munich

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the
Jewish Press is not a staunch German and not a true National
Socialist. The best rule whereby the sincerity of his convictions, his
character and strength of will, can be measured is by the hostility
which his name arouses among the mortal enemies of our people.

"The followers of the movement, and indeed the whole nation,
must be reminded again and again of the fact that, through the medium
of his newspapers, the Jew is always spreading falsehood and that if
he tells the truth on some occasions it is only for the purpose of
masking some greater deceit, which turns the apparent truth into a
deliberate falsehood. The Jew is the Great Master of Lies. Falsehood
and duplicity are the weapons with which he fights.

"Every calumny and falsehood published by the Jews are tokens of
honor which can be worn by our comrades. He whom they decry most is
nearest to our hearts and he whom they mortally hate is our best
friend.

"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning
and does not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday
to no account. For if he had achieved something he would be
persecuted, slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively
combat this mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the
enemy of all Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse
opposition on the part of this race and become the object of its
slanderous attacks.

"When these truths become part of the flesh and blood, as it
were, of our members, then the movement will be impregnable and
invincible."

" Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with that fact
before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my
respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style became
still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as entirely
shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation of facts
and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain more
falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.

"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand
things which I had formerly looked at in a different light."

"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
>

Why would anyone care what some cowardly half-wit
has to say?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:16:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Konrad Heiden, in his book 'Der Fuhrer," says 'We all cursed him and
>>found him intolerable.'
>
>
>"I know you expect no deep expression of feelings, for feelings cannot
>be clothed in words. But please imagine this: jobless, without any
>money. For two years! For four years! For six years!

Sounds like a real failure, kinda like Hitler.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

From the half-wit? [chuckle] why bother?

Topaz

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"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that, as in the
past, so in the years to come He would give His blessing to out work
and out action, to out judgment and our resolution, that He will
safeguard us from all false pride and from cowardly servility, that He
may grant to us to find the straight path which His Providence has
ordained for our people, and that He may ever give us the courage to
do the right, never to falter, never to yield before any violence,
before any danger."
Adolf Hitler

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Leon Degrelle

"We have the power. Now our gigantic work begins."
Those were Hitler's words on the night of January 30, 1933, as
cheering crowds surged past him, for five long hours, beneath the
windows of the Chancellery in Berlin.

His political struggle had lasted 14 years. He himself was 43, that
is, physically and intellectually at the peak of his powers. He had
won over millions of Germans and organized them into Germany's largest
and most dynamic political party, a party girded by a human rampart of
hundreds of thousands of storm troopers, three fourths of them members
of the working class. He had been extremely shrewd. All but toying
with his adversaries, Hitler had, one after another, vanquished them
all.

Standing there at the window, his arm raised to the delirious throng,
he must have known a feeling of triumph. But he seemed almost torpid,
absorbed, as if lost in another world.

It was a world far removed from the delirium in the street, a world of
65 million citizens who loved him or hated him, but all of whom, from
that night on, had become his responsibility. And as he knew-as almost
all Germans knew on January 1933 -- that this was a crushing, an
almost desperate responsibility.

Half a century later, few people understand the crisis Germany faced
at that time. Today, it's easy to assume that Germans have always been
well-fed and even plump. But the Germans Hitler inherited were virtual
skeletons.

During the preceding years, a score of "democratic" governments had
come and gone, often in utter confusion. Instead of alleviating the
people's misery, they had increased it, due to their own instability:
it was impossible for them to pursue any given plan for more than a
year or two. Germany had arrived at a dead end. In just a few years
there had been 224,000 suicides - a horrifying figure, bespeaking a
state of misery even more horrifying.

By the beginning of 1933, the misery of the German people was
virtually universal. At least six million unemployed and hungry
workers roamed aimlessly through the streets, receiving a pitiful
unemployment benefit of less than 42 marks per month. Many of those
out of work had families to feed, so that altogether some 20 million
Germans, a third of the country's population, were reduced to trying
to survive on about 40 pfennigs per person per day.

Unemployment benefits, moreover, were limited to a period of six
months. After that came only the meager misery allowance dispensed by
the welfare offices.

Notwithstanding the gross inadequacy of this assistance, by trying to
save the six million unemployed from total destruction, even for just
six months, both the state and local branches of the German government
saw themselves brought to ruin: in 1932 alone such aid had swallowed
up four billion marks, 57 percent of the total tax revenues of the
federal government and the regional states. A good many German
municipalities were bankrupt.

Those still lucky enough to have some kind of job were not much better
off. Workers and employees had taken a cut of 25 percent in their
wages and salaries. Twenty-one percent of them were earning between
100 and 250 marks per month; 69.2 percent of them, in January of 1933,
were being paid less than 1,200 marks annually. No more than about
100,000 Germans, it was estimated, were able to live without financial
worries.

During the three years before Hitler came to power, total earnings had
fallen by more than half, from 23 billion marks to 11 billion. The
average per capita income had dropped from 1,187 marks in 1929 to 627
marks, a scarcely tolerable level, in 1932. By January 1933, when
Hitler took office, 90 percent of the German people were destitute.
No one escaped the strangling effects of the unemployment. The
intellectuals were hit as hard as the working class. Of the 135,000
university graduates, 60 percent were without jobs. Only a tiny
minority was receiving unemployment benefits.

"The others," wrote one foreign observer, Marcel Laloire (in his book
New Germany), "are dependent on their parents or are sleeping in
flophouses. In the daytime they can be seen on the boulevards of
Berlin wearing signs on their backs to the effect that they will
accept any kind of work."

But there was no longer any kind of work.
The same drastic fall-off had hit Germany's cottage industry, which
comprised some four million workers. Its turnover had declined 55
percent, with total sales plunging from 22 billion to 10 billion
marks.

Hardest hit of all were construction workers; 90 percent of them were
unemployed.

Farmers, too, had been ruined, crushed by losses amounting to 12
billion marks. Many had been forced to mortgage their homes and their
land. In 1932 just the interest on the loans they had incurred due to
the crash was equivalent to 20 percent of the value of the
agricultural production of the entire country. Those who were no
longer able to meet the interest payments saw their farms auctioned
off in legal proceedings: in the years 1931-1932, 17,157 farms-with a
combined total area of 462,485 hectares - were liquidated in this way.
The "democracy" of Germany's "Weimar Republic" (1918 -1933) had proven
utterly ineffective in addressing such flagrant wrongs as this
impoverishment of millions of farm workers, even though they were the
nation's most stable and hardest working citizens. Plundered,
dispossessed, abandoned: small wonder they heeded Hitler's call.
Their situation on January 30, 1933, was tragic. Like the rest of
Germany's working class, they had been betrayed by their political
leaders, reduced to the alternatives of miserable wages, paltry and
uncertain benefit payments, or the outright humiliation of begging.
Germany's industries, once renowned everywhere in the world, were no
longer prosperous, despite the millions of marks in gratuities that
the financial magnates felt obliged to pour into the coffers of the
parties in power before each election in order to secure their
cooperation. For 14 years the well-blinkered conservatives and
Christian democrats of the political center had been feeding at the
trough just as greedily as their adversaries of the left..

One inevitable consequence of this ever-increasing misery and
uncertainty about the future was an abrupt decline in the birthrate.
When your household savings are wiped out, and when you fear even
greater calamities in the days ahead, you do not risk adding to the
number of your dependents.

In those days the birth rate was a reliable barometer of a country's
prosperity. A child is a joy, unless you have nothing but a crust of
bread to put in its little hand. And that's just the way it was with
hundreds of thousands of German families in 1932..

Hitler knew that he would be starting from zero. From less than zero.
But he was also confident of his strength of will to create Germany
anew-politically, socially, financially, and economically. Now legally
and officially in power, he was sure that he could quickly convert
that cipher into a Germany more powerful than ever before.
What support did he have?

For one thing, he could count on the absolute support of millions of
fanatical disciples. And on that January evening, they joyfully shared
in the great thrill of victory. Some thirteen million Germans, many of
them former Socialists and Communists, had voted for his party.
But millions of Germans were still his adversaries, disconcerted
adversaries, to be sure, whom their own political parties had
betrayed, but who had still not been won over to National Socialism.
The two sides-those for and those against Hitler-were very nearly
equal in numbers. But whereas those on the left were divided among
themselves, Hitler's disciples were strongly united. And in one thing
above all, the National Socialists had an incomparable advantage: in
their convictions and in their total faith in a leader. Their highly
organized and well-disciplined party had contented with the worst kind
of obstacles, and had overcome them..

In the eyes of the capitalists, money was the sole active element in
the flourishing of a country's economy. To Hitler's way of thinking,
that conception was radically wrong: capital, on the contrary, was
only an instrument. Work was the essential element: man's endeavor,
man's honor, blood, muscles and soul.

Hitler wanted not just to put an to the class struggle, but to
reestablish the priority of the human being, in justice and respect,
as the principal factor in production..

For the worker's trust in the fatherland to be restored, he had to
feel that from now on he was to be (and to be treated) as an equal,
instead of remaining a social inferior. Under the governments of the
so-called democratic parties of both the left and the right, he had
remained an inferior; for none of them had understood that in the
hierarchy of national values, work is the very essence of life; ..

The objective, then, was far greater than merely getting six million
unemployed back to work. It was to achieve a total revolution.
"The people," Hitler declared, "were not put here on earth for the
sake of the economy, and the economy doesn't exist for the sake of
capital. On the contrary, capital is meant to serve the economy, and
the economy in turn to serve the people."

It would not be enough merely to reopen the thousands of closed
factories and fill them with workers. If the old concepts still ruled,
the workers would once again be nothing more than living machines,
faceless and interchangeable..

Nowhere in twentieth-century Europe had the authority of a head of
state ever been based on such overwhelming and freely given national
consent. Prior to Hitler, from 1919 to 1932, those governments piously
styling themselves democratic had usually come to power by meager
majorities, sometimes as low as 51 or 52 percent.

"I am not a dictator," Hitler had often affirmed, "and I never will
be. Democracy will be rigorously enforced by National Socialism."
Authority does not mean tyranny. A tyrant is someone who puts himself
in power without the will of the people or against the will of the
people. A democrat is placed in power by the people. But democracy is
not limited to a single formula. It may be partisan or parliamentary.
Or it may be authoritarian. The important thing is that the people
have wished it, chosen it, established it in its given form.

That was the case with Hitler. He came to power in an essentially
democratic way. Whether one likes it or not, this fact is undeniable.
And after coming to power, his popular support measurably increased
from year to year. The more intelligent and honest of his enemies have
been obliged to admit this, men such as the declared anti-Nazi
historian and professor Joachim Fest, who wrote:

For Hitler was never interested in establishing a mere tyranny. Sheer
greed for power will not suffice as explanation for his personality
and energy-He was not born to be a mere tyrant. He was fixated upon
his mission of defending Europe and the Aryan race ... Never had he
felt so dependent upon the masses as he did at this time, and he
watched their reactions with anxious concern.
These lines weren't written by Dr. Goebbels, but by a stern critic of
Hitler and his career..

When it came time to vote, Hitler was granted plenary powers with a
sweeping majority of 441 votes to 94: he had won not just two thirds,
but 82.44 percent of the assembly's votes. This "Enabling Act" granted
Hitler for four years virtually absolute authority over the
legislative as well as the executive affairs of the government..

After 1945 the explanation that was routinely offered for all this was
that the Germans had lost their heads. Whatever the case, it is a
historical fact that they acted of their own free will. Far from being
resigned, they were enthusiastic. "For the first time since the last
days of the monarchy," historian Joachim Fest has conceded, "the
majority of the Germans now had the feeling that they could identify
with the state."..

"You talk about persecution!" he thundered in an impromptu response to
an address by the Social Democratic speaker. "I think that there are
only a few of us [in our party] here who did not have to suffer
persecutions in prison from your side ... You seem to have totally
forgotten that for years our shirts were ripped off our backs because
you did not like the color . . . We have outgrown your persecutions!"
"In those days," he scathingly continued, "our newspapers were banned
and banned and again banned, our meetings were forbidden, and we were
forbidden to speak, I was forbidden to speak, for years on. And now
you say that criticism is salutary!"..

Hitler's millions of followers had rediscovered the primal strength of
rough, uncitified man, of a time when men still had backbone..

Gustav Noske, the lumberjack who became defense minister - and the
most valiant defender of the embattled republic in the tumultuous
months immediately following the collapse of 1918 - acknowledged
honestly in 1944, when the Third Reich was already rapidly breaking
down, that the great majority of the German people still remained true
to Hitler because of the social renewal he had brought to the working
class..

Here again, well before the collapse of party-ridden Weimar Republic,
disillusion with the unions had become widespread among the working
masses. They were starving. The hundreds of Socialist and Communist
deputies stood idly by, impotent to provide any meaningful help to the
desperate proletariat.

Their leaders had no proposals to remedy, even partially, the great
distress of the people; no plans for large-scale public works, no
industrial restructuring, no search for markets abroad.
Moreover, they offered no energetic resistance to the pillaging by
foreign countries of the Reich's last financial resources: this a
consequence of the Treaty of Versailles that the German Socialists had
voted to ratify in June of 1919, and which they had never since had
the courage effectively to oppose..

In 1930, 1931 and 1932, German workers had watched the disaster grow:
the number of unemployed rose from two million to three, to four, to
five, then to six million. At the same time, unemployment benefits
fell lower and lower, finally to disappear completely. Everywhere one
saw dejection and privation: emaciated mothers, children wasting away
in sordid lodgings, and thousands of beggars in long sad lines.
The failure, or incapacity, of the leftist leaders to act, not to
mention their insensitivity, had stupefied the working class. Of what
use were such leaders with their empty heads and empty hearts-and,
often enough, full pockets?

Well before January 30, thousands of workers had already joined up
with Hitler's dynamic formations, which were always hard at it where
they were most needed. Many joined the National Socialists when they
went on strike. Hitler, himself a former worker and a plain man like
themselves, was determined to eliminate unemployment root and branch.
He wanted not merely to defend the laborer's right to work, but to
make his calling one of honor, to insure him respect and to integrate
him fully into a living community of all the Germans, who had been
divided class against class.

In January 1933, Hitler's victorious troops were already largely
proletarian in character, including numerous hardfisted street
brawlers, many unemployed, who no longer counted economically or
socially.

Meanwhile, membership in the Marxist labor unions had fallen off
enormously: among thirteen million socialist and Communist voters in
1932, no more than five million were union members. Indifference and
discouragement had reached such levels that many members no longer
paid their union dues. Many increasingly dispirited Marxist leaders
began to wonder if perhaps the millions of deserters were the ones who
saw things clearly. Soon they wouldn't wonder any longer.
Even before Hitler won Reichstag backing for his "Enabling Act,"
Germany's giant labor union federation, the ADGB, had begun to rally
to the National Socialist cause. As historian Joachim Fest
acknowledged: "On March 20, the labor federation's executive committee
addressed a kind of declaration of loyalty to Hitler." (J. Fest,
Hitler, p. 413.)

Hitler than took a bold and clever step. The unions had always
clamored to have the First of May recognized as a worker's holiday,
but the Weimar Republic had never acceded to their request. Hitler,
never missing an opportunity, grasped this one with both hands. He did
more than grant this reasonable demand: he proclaimed the First of May
a national holiday..

I myself attended the memorable meeting at the Tempelhof field in
1933. By nine o'clock that morning, giant columns, some of workers,
others of youth groups, marching in cadence down the pavement of
Berlin's great avenues, had started off towards the airfield to which
Hitler had called together all Germans. All Germany would follow the
rally as it was transmitted nationwide by radio..

In the dark, a group of determined opponents could easily have heckled
Hitler or otherwise sabotaged the meeting. Perhaps a third of the
onlookers had been Socialists or Communists only three months
previously. But not a single hostile voice was raised during the
entire ceremony. There was only universal acclamation.
Ceremony is the right word for it. It was an almost magical rite.
Hitler and Goebbels had no equals in the arranging of dedicatory
ceremonies of this sort. First there were popular songs, then great
Wagnerian hymns to grip the audience. Germany has a passion for
orchestral music, and Wagner taps the deepest and most secret vein of
the German soul, its romanticism, its inborn sense of the powerful and
the grand.

Meanwhile the hundreds of flags floated above the rostrum, redeemed
from the darkness by arrows of light.

Now Hitler strode to the rostrum. For those standing at the of the
field, his face must have appeared vanishingly small, but his words
flooded instantaneously across the acres of people in his audience.
A Latin audience would have preferred a voice less harsh, more
delicately expressive. But there was no doubt that Hitler spoke to the
psyche of the German people.

Germans have rarely had the good fortune to experience the enchantment
of the spoken word. In Germany, the tone has always been set by
ponderous speakers, more fond of elephantine pedantry than oratorical
passion. Hitler, as a speaker, was a prodigy, the greatest orator of
his century. He possessed, above all, what the ordinary speaker lacks:
a mysterious ability to project power.

A bit like a medium or sorcerer, he was seized, even transfixed, as he
addressed a crowd. It responded to Hitler's projection of power,
radiating it back, establishing, in the course of myriad exchanges, a
current that both orator and audience gave to and drew from equally.
One had to personally experience him speaking to understand this
phenomenon.

This special gift is what lay at the basis of Hitler's ability to win
over the masses. His high-voltage, lightning-like projection
transported and transformed all who experienced it. Tens of millions
were enlightened, riveted and inflamed by the fire of his anger,
irony, and passion.

By the time the cheering died away that May first evening, hundreds of
thousands of previously indifferent or even hostile workers who had
come to Tempelhof at the urging of their labor federation leaders were
now won over. They had become followers, like the SA stormtroopers
whom so many there that evening had brawled with in recent years.
The great human sea surged back from Tempelhof to Berlin. A million
and a half people had arrived in perfect order, and their departure
was just as orderly. No bottlenecks halted the cars and busses. For
those of us who witnessed it, this rigorous, yet joyful, discipline of
a contented people was in itself a source of wonder. Everything about
the May Day mass meeting had come off as smoothly clockwork.
The memory of that fabulous crowd thronging back to the center of
Berlin will never leave me. A great many were on foot. Their faces
were now different faces, as though they had been imbued with a
strange and totally new spirit. The non-Germans in the crowd were as
if stunned, and no less impressed than Hitler's fellow countrymen.
The French ambassador, Andr� Fran�ois-Poncet, noted:
The foreigners on the speaker's platform as guests of honor were not
alone in carrying away the impression of a truly beautiful and
wonderful public festival, an impression that was created by the
regime's genius for organization, by the night time display of
uniforms, by the play of lights, the rhythm of the music, by the flags
and the colorful fireworks; and they were not alone in thinking that a
breath of reconciliation and unity was passing over the Third Reich.
"It is our wish," Hitler had exclaimed, as though taking heaven as his
witness, "to get along together and to struggle together as brothers,
so that at the hour when we shall come before God, we might say to
him: 'See, Lord, we have changed. The German people are no longer a
people ashamed, a people mean and cowardly and divided. No, Lord! The
German people have become strong in their spirit, in their will, in
their perseverance, in their acceptance of any sacrifice. Lord, we
remain faithful to Thee! Bless our struggle!" (A. Fran�ois-Poncet,
Souvenirs d'une ambassade � Berlin, p. 128.)

Who else could have made such an incantatory appeal without making
himself look ridiculous?

No politician had ever spoken of the rights of workers with such faith
and such force, or had laid out in such clear terms the social plan he
pledged to carry out on behalf of the common people.

The next day, the newspaper of the proletarian left, the "Union
Journal," reported on this mass meeting at which at least two thirds-a
million-of those attending were workers. "This May First was victory
day," the paper summed up.

With the workers thus won over, what further need was there for the
thousands of labor union locals that for so long had poisoned the
social life of the Reich and which, in any case, had accomplished
nothing of a lasting, positive nature?

Within hours of the conclusion of that "victory" meeting at the
Tempelhof field, the National Socialists were able to peacefully take
complete control of Germany's entire labor union organization,
including all its buildings, enterprises and banks. An era of Marxist
obstruction abruptly came to an end : from now on, a single national
organization would embody the collective will and interests of all of
Germany's workers.

Although he was now well on his way to creating what he pledged would
be a true "government of the people," Hitler also realized that great
obstacles remained. For one thing, the Communist rulers in Moscow had
not dropped their guard-or their guns. Restoring the nation would take
more than words and promises, it would take solid achievements. Only
then would the enthusiasm shown by the working class at the May First
mass meeting be an expression of lasting victory.

How could Hitler solve the great problem that had defied solution by
everyone else (both in Germany and abroad): putting millions of
unemployed back to work?

What would Hitler do about wages? Working hours? Leisure time?
Housing? How would he succeed in winning, at long last, respect for
the rights and dignity of the worker?

How could men's lives be improved-materially, morally, and, one might
even say, spiritually? How would he proceed to build a new society fit
for human beings, free of the inertia, injustices and prejudices of
the past?

"National Socialism," Hitler had declared at the outset, "has its
mission and its hour; it is not just a passing movement but a phase of
history."

The instruments of real power now in his hands-an authoritarian state,
its provinces subordinate but nonetheless organic parts of the
national whole-Hitler had acted quickly to shake himself free of the
last constraints of the impotent sectarian political parties.
Moreover, he was now able to direct a cohesive labor force that was no
longer split into a thousand rivulets but flowed as a single, mighty
current.

Hitler was self-confident, sure of the power of his own conviction. He
had no intention, or need, to resort to the use of physical force.
Instead, he intended to win over, one by one, the millions of Germans
who were still his adversaries, and even those who still hated him.
His conquest of Germany had taken years of careful planning and hard
work. Similarly, he would now realize his carefully worked out plans
for transforming the state and society. This meant not merely changes
in administrative or governmental structures, but far-reaching social
programs.

He had once vowed: "The hour will come when the 15 million people who
now hate us will be solidly behind us and will acclaim with us the new
revival we shall create together." Eventually he would succeed in
winning over even many of his most refractory skeptics and
adversaries.

His army of converts was already forming ranks. In a remarkable
tribute, historian Joachim Fest felt obliged to acknowledge
unequivocally:

Hitler had moved rapidly from the status of a demagogue to that of a
respected statesman. The craving to join the ranks of the victors was
spreading like an epidemic, and the shrunken minority of those who
resisted the urge were being visibly pushed into isolation-The past
was dead. The future, it seemed, belonged to the regime, which had
more and more followers, which was being hailed everywhere and
suddenly had sound reasons on its side.

And even the prominent leftist writer Kurt Tucholsky, sensing the
direction of the inexorable tide that was sweeping Germany, vividly
commented: "You don't go railing against the ocean." (J. Fest, Hitler,
pp. 415 f.)

"Our power," Hitler was now able to declare, "no longer belongs to any
territorial fraction of the Reich, nor to any single class of the
nation, but to the people in its totality."

Much still remained to be done, however. So far, Hitler had succeeded
in clearing the way of obstacles to his program. Now the time to build
had arrived.

So many others had failed to tackle the many daunting problems that
were now his responsibility. Above all, the nation demanded a solution
to the great problem of unemployment. Could Hitler now succeed where
others had so dismally failed?..

Unemployment could be combated and eliminated only by giving industry
the financial means to start up anew, to modernize, thus creating
millions of new jobs.

The normal rate of consumption would not be restored, let alone
increased, unless one first raised the starvation-level allowances
that were making purchases of any kind a virtual impossibility. On the
contrary, production and sales would have to be restored before the
six million unemployed could once again become purchasers.
The great economic depression could be overcome only by restimulating
industry, by bringing industry into step with the times, and by
promoting the development of new products..

Nearly ten years earlier, while in his prison cell, Hitler had already
envisioned a formidable system of national highways. He had also
conceived of a small, easily affordable automobile (later known as the
"Volkswagen"), and had even suggested its outline. It should have the
shape of a June bug, he proposed. Nature itself suggested the car's
aerodynamic line.

Until Hitler came to power, a car was the privilege of the rich. It
was not financially within the reach of the middle class, much less of
the worker. The "Volkswagen," costing one-tenth as much as the
standard automobile of earlier years, would eventually become a
popular work vehicle and a source of pleasure after work: a way to
unwind and get some fresh air, and of discovering, thanks to the new
Autobahn highway network, a magnificent country that then, in its
totality, was virtually unknown to the German worker.

From the beginning, Hitler wanted this economical new car to be built
for the millions. The production works would also become one of
Germany's most important industrial centers and employers.
During his imprisonment, Hitler had also drawn up plans for the
construction of popular housing developments and majestic public
buildings.

Some of Hitler's rough sketches still survive. They include groups of
individual worker's houses with their own gardens (which were to be
built in the hundreds of thousands), a plan for a covered stadium in
Berlin, and a vast congress hall, unlike any other in the world, that
would symbolize the grandeur of the National Socialist revolution.
"A building with a monumental dome," historian Werner Maser has
explained, "the plan of which he drew while he was writing Mein Kampf,
would have a span of 46 meters, a height of 220 meters, a diameter of
250 meters, and a capacity of 150 to 190 thousand people standing. The
interior of the building would have been 17 times larger than Saint
Peter's Cathedral in Rome." (W. Maser, Hitler, Adolf, p. 100.)

"That hall," architect Albert Speer has pointed out, "was not just an
idle dream impossible of achievement."

Hitler's imagination, therefore, had long been teeming with a number
of ambitious projects, many of which would eventually be realized.
Fortunately, the needed entrepreneurs, managers and technicians were
on hand. Hitler would not have to improvise.

Historian Werner Maser, although quite anti-Hitler-like nearly all of
his colleagues (how else would they have found publishers?) - has
acknowledged: "From the beginning of his political career, he [Hitler]
took great pains systematically to arrange for whatever he was going
to need in order to carry out his plans."

"Hitler was distinguished," Maser has also noted, "by an exceptional
intelligence in technical matters." Hitler had acquired his knowledge
by devoting many thousands of hours to technical studies from the time
of his youth.

"Hitler read an endless number of books," explained Dr. Schacht. "He
acquired a very considerable amount of knowledge and made masterful
use of it in discussions and speeches. In certain respects he was a
man endowed with genius. He had ideas that no one else would ever have
thought of, ideas that resulted in the ending of great difficulties,
sometimes by measures of an astonishing simplicity or brutality."
Many billions of marks would be needed to begin the great
socioeconomic revolution that was destined, as Hitler had always
intended, to make Germany once again the European leader in industry
and commerce and, most urgently, to rapidly wipe out unemployment in
Germany. Where would the money be found? And, once obtained, how would
these funds be allotted to ensure maximum effectiveness in their
investment?

Hitler was by no means a dictator in matters of the economy. He was,
rather, a stimulator. His government would undertake to do only that
which private initiative could not.

Hitler believed in the importance of individual creative imagination
and dynamism, in the need for every person of superior ability and
skill to assume responsibility.

He also recognized the importance of the profit motive. Deprived of
the prospect of having his efforts rewarded, the person of ability
often refrains from running risks. The economic failure of Communism
has demonstrated this. In the absence of personal incentives and the
opportunity for real individual initiative, the Soviet "command
economy" lagged in all but a few fields, its industry years behind its
competitors.

State monopoly tolls the death of all initiative, and hence of all
progress.

For all men selflessly to pool their wealth might be marvelous, but it
is also contrary to human nature. Nearly every man desires that his
labor shall improve his own condition and that of his family, and
feels that his brain, creative imagination, and persistence well
deserve their reward.

Because it disregarded these basic psychological truths, Soviet
Communism, right to the end, wallowed in economic mediocrity, in spite
of its immense reservoir of manpower, its technical expertise, and its
abundant natural resources, all of which ought to have made it an
industrial and technological giant.

Hitler was always adverse to the idea of state management of the
economy. He believed in elites. "A single idea of genius," he used to
say, "has more value than a lifetime of conscientious labor in an
office."

Just as there are political or intellectual elites, so also is there
an industrial elite. A manufacturer of great ability should not be
restrained, hunted down by the internal revenue services like a
criminal, or be unappreciated by the public. On the contrary, it is
important for economic development that the industrialist be
encouraged morally and materially, as much as possible.

The most fruitful initiatives Hitler would take from 1933 on would be
on behalf of private enterprise. He would keep an eye on the quality
of their directors, to be sure, and would shunt aside incompetents,
quite a few of them at times, but he also supported the best ones,
those with the keenest minds, the most imaginative and bold, even if
their political opinions did not always agree with his own.
"There is no question," he stated very firmly, "of dismissing a
factory owner or director under the pretext that he is not a National
Socialist."

Hitler would exercise the same moderation, the same pragmatism, in the
administrative as well as in the industrial sphere.
What he demanded of his co-workers, above all, was competence and
effectiveness. The great majority of Third Reich functionaries - some
80 percent-were never enrolled in the National Socialist party.
Several of Hitler's ministers, like Konstantin von Neurath and
Schwerin von Krosigk, and ambassadors to such key posts as Prague,
Vienna and Ankara, were not members of the party. But they were
capable..

"Herr Schacht," he said, "we are assuredly in agreement on one point:
no other single task facing the government at the moment can be so
truly urgent as conquering unemployment. That will take a lot of
money. Do you see any possibility of finding it apart from the
Reichsbank?" And after a moment, he added: "How much would it take? Do
you have any idea?"

Wishing to win Schacht over by appealing to his ambition, Hitler
smiled and then asked: "Would you be willing to once again assume
presidency of the Reichsbank?" Schacht let on that he had a
sentimental concern for Dr. Luther, and did not want to hurt the
incumbent's feelings. Playing along, Hitler reassured Schacht that he
would find an appropriate new job elsewhere for Luther.
Schacht then pricked up his ears, drew himself up, and focused his big
round eyes on Hitler: "Well, if that's the way it is," he said, "then
I am ready to assume the presidency of the Reichsbank again."
His great dream was being realized. Schacht had been president of the
Reichsbank between 1923 and 1930, but had been dismissed. Now he would
return in triumph. He felt vindicated. Within weeks, the ingenious
solution to Germany's pressing financial woes would burst forth from
his inventive brain.

"It was necessary," Schacht later explained, "to discover a method
that would avoid inflating the investment holdings of the Reichsbank
immoderately and consequently increasing the circulation of money
excessively."

"Therefore," he went on, "I had to find some means of getting the sums
that were lying idle in pockets and banks, without meaning for it to
be long term and without having it undergo the risk of depreciation.
That was the reasoning behind the Mefo bonds."


What were these "Mefo" bonds? Mefo was a contraction of the
Metallurgische Forschungs-GmbH (Metallurgic Research Company). With a
startup capitalization of one billion marks - which Hitler and Schacht
arranged to be provided by the four giant firms of Krupp, Siemens,
Deutsche Werke and Rheinmetall-this company would eventually promote
many billions of marks worth of investment.

Enterprises, old and new, that filled government orders had only to
draw drafts on Mefo for the amounts due. These drafts, when presented
to the Reichsbank, were immediately convertible into cash. The success
of the Mefo program depended entirely on public acceptance of the Mefo
bonds. But the wily Schacht had planned well. Since Mefo bonds were
short-term bonds that could be cashed in at any time, there was no
real risk in buying, accepting or holding them. They bore an interest
of four percent-a quite acceptable figure in those days-whereas
banknotes hidden under the mattress earned nothing. The public quickly
took all this into consideration and eagerly accepted the bonds.
While the Reichsbank was able to offer from its own treasury a
relatively insignificant 150 million marks for Hitler's war on
unemployment, in just four years the German public subscribed more
than 12 billion marks worth of Mefo bonds!

These billions, the fruit of the combined imagination, ingenuity and
astuteness of Hitler and Schacht, swept away the temporizing and
fearful conservatism of the bankers. Over the next four years, this
enormous credit reserve would make miracles possible.

Soon after the initial billion-mark credit, Schacht added another
credit of 600 million in order to finance the start of Hitler's grand
program for highway construction. This Autobahn program provided
immediate work for 100,000 of the unemployed, and eventually assured
wages for some 500,000 workers.

As large as this outlay was, it was immediately offset by a
corresponding cutback in government unemployment benefits, and by the
additional tax revenue generated as a result of the increase in living
standard (sping) of the newly employed.

Within a few months, thanks to the credit created by the Mefo bonds,
private industry once again dared to assume risks and expand. Germans
returned to work by the hundreds of thousands.

Was Schacht solely responsible for this extraordinary turnaround?
After the war, he answered for himself as a Nuremberg Tribunal
defendant, where he was charged with having made possible the Reich's
economic revival:

I don't think Hitler was reduced to begging for my help. If I had not
served him, he would have found other methods, other means. He was not
a man to give up. It's easy enough for you to say, Mr. Prosecutor,
that I should have watched Hitler die and not lifted a finger. But the
entire working class would have died with him!

Even Marxists recognized Hitler's success, and their own failure. In
the June 1934 issue of the Zeitschrift f�r Sozialismus, the journal of
the German Social Democrats in exile, this acknowledgement appears:
Faced with the despair of proletarians reduced to joblessness, of
young people with diplomas and no future, of the middle classes of
merchants and artisans condemned to bankruptcy, and of farmers
terribly threatened by the collapse in agricultural prices, we all
failed. We weren't capable of offering the masses anything but
speeches about the glory of socialism.

VI. The Social Revolution
Hitler's tremendous social achievement in putting Germany's six
million unemployed back to work is seldom acknowledged today. Although
it was much more than a transitory achievement, "democratic"
historians routinely dismiss it in just a few lines. Since 1945, not a
single objective scholarly study has been devoted to this highly
significant, indeed unprecedented, historical phenomenon.
Similarly neglected is the body of sweeping reforms that dramatically
changed the condition of the worker in Germany. Factories were
transformed from gloomy caverns to spacious and healthy work centers,
with natural lighting, surrounded by gardens and playing fields.
Hundreds of thousands of attractive houses were built for working
class families. A policy of several weeks of paid vacation was
introduced, along with week and holiday trips by land and sea. A
wide-ranging program of physical and cultural education for young
workers was established, with the world's best system of technical
training. The Third Reich's social security and workers' health
insurance system was the world's most modern and complete.
This remarkable record of social achievement is routinely hushed up
today because it is embarrasses those who uphold the orthodox view of
the Third Reich. Otherwise, readers might begin to think that perhaps
Hitler was the greatest social builder of the twentieth century..

Nevertheless, restoring work and bread to millions of unemployed who
had been living in misery for years; restructuring industrial life;
conceiving and establishing an organization for the effective defense
and betterment of the nation's millions of wage earners; creating a
new bureaucracy and judicial system that guaranteed the civic rights
of each member of the national community, while simultaneously holding
each person to his or her responsibilities as a German citizen: this
organic body of reforms was part of a single, comprehensive plan,
which Hitler had conceived and worked out years earlier.
Without this plan, the nation would have collapsed into anarchy.
All-encompassing, this program included broad industrial recovery as
well as detailed attention to even construction of comfortable inns
along the new highway network.

It took several years for a stable social structure to emerge from the
French Revolution. The Soviets needed even more time: five years after
the Bolshevik revolution of 1917, hundreds of thousands of Russians
were still dying of hunger and disease. In Germany, by contrast, the
great machinery was in motion within months, with organization and
accomplishment quickly meshing together..

Hitler personally dug the first spadeful of earth for the first
Autobahn highway, linking Frankfurt-am-Main with Darmstadt. For the
occasion, he brought along Dr. Schacht, the man whose visionary credit
wizardry had made the project possible. The official procession moved
ahead, three cars abreast in front, then six across, spanning the
entire width of the autobahn..

Hitler's plan to build thousands of low-cost homes also demanded a
vast mobilization of manpower. He had envisioned housing that would be
attractive, cozy, and affordable for millions of ordinary German
working-class families. He had no intention of continuing to tolerate,
as his predecessors had, cramped, ugly "rabbit warren" housing for the
German people. The great barracks-like housing projects on the
outskirts of factory towns, packed with cramped families, disgusted
him.

The greater part of the houses he would build were single story,
detached dwellings, with small yards where children could romp, wives
could grow vegetable and flower gardens, while the bread-winners could
read their newspapers in peace after the day's work. These
single-family homes were built to conform to the architectural styles
of the various German regions, retaining as much as possible the
charming local variants.

Wherever there was no practical alternative to building large
apartment complexes, Hitler saw to it that the individual apartments
were spacious, airy and enhanced by surrounding lawns and gardens
where the children could play safely.

The new housing was, of course, built in conformity with the highest
standards of public health, a consideration notoriously neglected in
previous working-class projects.

Generous loans, amortizable in ten years, were granted to newly
married couples so they could buy their own homes. At the birth of
each child, a fourth of the debt was cancelled. Four children, at the
normal rate of a new arrival every two and a half years, sufficed to
cancel the entire loan debt.

Once, during a conversation with Hitler, I expressed my astonishment
at this policy. "But then, you never get back the total amount of your
loans?," I asked. "How so?" he replied, smiling. "Over a period of ten
years, a family with four children brings in much more than our loans,
through the taxes levied on a hundred different items of consumption."
As it happened, tax revenues increased every year, in proportion to
the rise in expenditures for Hitler's social programs. In just a few
years, revenue from taxes tripled. Hitler's Germany never experienced
a financial crisis.

To stimulate the moribund economy demanded the nerve, which Hitler
had, to invest money that the government didn't yet have, rather than
passively waiting-in accordance with "sound" financial principles-for
the economy to revive by itself.

Today, our whole era is dying economically because we have succumbed
to fearful hesitation. Enrichment follows investment, not the other
way around..

Even before the year 1933 had ended, Hitler had succeeded in building
202,119 housing units. Within four years he would provide the German
people with nearly a million and a half (1,458,128) new dwellings!
Moreover, workers would no longer be exploited as they had been. A
month's rent for a worker could not exceed 26 marks, or about an
eighth of the average wage then. Employees with more substantial
salaries paid monthly rents of up to 45 marks maximum.

Equally effective social measures were taken in behalf of farmers, who
had the lowest incomes. In 1933 alone 17,611 new farm houses were
built, each of them surrounded by a parcel of land one thousand square
meters in size. Within three years, Hitler would build 91,000 such
farmhouses..

Everywhere industry was hiring again, with some firms-like Krupp, IG
Farben and the large automobile manufacturers-taking on new workers on
a very large scale. As the country became more prosperous, car sales
increased by more than 80,000 units in 1933 alone. Employment in the
auto industry doubled. Germany was gearing up for full production,
with private industry leading the way.

The new government lavished every assistance on the private sector,
the chief factor in employment as well as production. Hitler almost
immediately made available 500 million marks in credits to private
business.

This start-up assistance given to German industry would repay itself
many times over. Soon enough, another two billion marks would be
loaned to the most enterprising companies. Nearly half would go into
new wages and salaries, saving the treasury an estimated three hundred
million marks in unemployment benefits. Added to the hundreds of
millions in tax receipts spurred by the business recovery, the state
quickly recovered its investment, and more.

Hitler's entire economic policy would be based on the following
equation: risk large sums to undertake great public works and to spur
the renewal and modernization of industry, then later recover the
billions invested through invisible and painless tax revenues. It
didn't take long for Germany to see the results of Hitler's recovery
formula.

Economic recovery, as important as it was, nevertheless wasn't
Hitler's only objective. As he strived to restore full employment,
Hitler never lost sight of his goal of creating a organization
powerful enough to stand up to capitalist owners and managers, who had
shown little concern for the health and welfare of the entire national
community.

Hitler would impose on everyone-powerful boss and lowly wage earner
alike-his own concept of the organic social community. Only the loyal
collaboration of everyone could assure the prosperity of all classes
and social groups.

Consistent with their doctrine, Germany's Marxist leaders had set
class against class, helping to bring the country to the brink of
economic collapse. Deserting their Marxist unions and political
parties in droves, most workers had come to realize that strikes and
grievances their leaders incited only crippled production, and thus
the workers as well.

By the of 1932, in any case, the discredited labor unions were
drowning in massive debt that realistically could never be repaid.
Some of the less scrupulous union officials, sensing the oncoming
catastrophe, had begun stealing hundreds of thousands of marks from
the workers they represented. The Marxist leaders had failed:
socially, financially and morally.

Every joint human activity requires a leader. The head of a factory or
business is also the person naturally responsible for it. He oversees
every aspect of production and work. In Hitler's Germany, the head of
a business had to be both a capable director and a person concerned
for the social justice and welfare of his employees. Under Hitler,
many owners and managers who had proven to be unjust, incompetent or
recalcitrant lost their jobs, or their businesses.

A considerable number of legal guarantees protected the worker against
any abuse of authority at the workplace. Their purpose was to insure
that the rights of workers were respected, and that workers were
treated as worthy collaborators, not just as animated tools. Each
industrialist was legally obliged to collaborate with worker delegates
in drafting shop regulations that were not imposed from above but
instead adapted to each business enterprise and its particular working
conditions. These regulations had to specify "the length of the
working day, the time and method of paying wages, and the safety
rules, and to be posted throughout the factory," within easy access of
both the worker whose interests might be angered and the owner or
manager whose orders might be subverted.

The thousands of different, individual versions of such regulations
served to create a healthy rivalry, with every factory group vying to
outdo the others in efficiency and justice.

One of the first reforms to benefit German workers was the
establishment of paid vacations. In France, the leftist Popular Front
government would noisily claim, in 1936, to have originated legally
mandated paid vacations-and stingy ones at that, only one week per
year. But it was actually Hitler who first established them, in 1933
-- and they were two or three times more generous.

Under Hitler, every factory employee had the legal right to paid
vacation. Previously, paid vacations had not normally exceed four or
five days, and nearly half of the younger workers had no vacation time
at all. If anything, Hitler favored younger workers; the youngest
workers received more generous vacations. This was humane and made
sense: a young person has more need of rest and fresh air to develop
his maturing strength and vigor. Thus, they enjoyed a full 18 days of
paid vacation per year.

Today, more than half a century later, these figures have been
surpassed, but in 1933 they far exceeded European norms.
The standard vacation was twelve days. Then, from the age of 25 on, it
went up to 18 days. After ten years with the company, workers got a
still longer vacation: 21 days, or three times what the French
socialists would grant the workers of their country in 1936.
Hitler introduced the standard forty-hour work week in Europe. As for
overtime work, it was now compensated, as nowhere else in the
continent at the time, at an increased pay rate. And with the
eight-hour work day now the norm, overtime work became more readily
available.

In another innovation, work breaks were made longer: two hours each
day, allowing greater opportunity for workers to relax, and to make
use of the playing fields that large industries were now required to
provide.

Whereas a worker's right to job security had been virtually
non-existent, now an employee could no longer be dismissed at the sole
discretion of the employer. Hitler saw to it that workers' rights were
spelled out and enforced. Henceforth, an employer had to give four
weeks notice before firing an employee, who then had up to two months
to appeal the dismissal. Dismissals could also be annulled by the
"Courts of Social Honor" (Ehrengerichte).

This Court was one of three great institutions that were established
to protect German workers. The others were the "Labor Commissions" and
the "Council of Trust."

The "Council of Trust" (Vertrauensrat) was responsible for
establishing and developing a real spirit of community between
management and labor. "In every business enterprise," the 1934 "Labor
Charter" law stipulated, "the employer and head of the enterprise
(F�hrer), the employees and workers, personnel of the enterprise,
shall work jointly toward the goal of the enterprise and the common
good of the nation."

No longer would either be exploited by the other-neither the worker by
arbitrary whim of the employer, nor the employer through the blackmail
of strikes for political ends.

Article 35 of the "Labor Charter" law stated: "Every member of an
enterprise community shall assume the responsibility required by his
position in said common enterprise." In short, each enterprise would
be headed by a dynamic executive, charged with a sense of the greater
community-no longer a selfish capitalist with unconditional, arbitrary
power.

"The interest of the community may require that an incapable or
unworthy employer be relieved of his duties," the "Labor Charter"
stipulated. The employer was no longer unassailable, an all-powerful
boss with the last word on hiring and firing his staff. He, too, would
be subject to the workplace regulations, which he was now obliged to
respect no less than the least of his employees. The law conferred the
honor and responsibility of authority on the employer only insofar as
he merited it..

In the Third Reich, the worker knew that "exploitation of his physical
strength in bad faith or in violation of his honor" was no longer
tolerated. He had obligations to the community, but he shared these
obligations with every other member of the enterprise, from the chief
executive to the messenger boy. Finally, the German worker had clearly
defined social rights, which were arbitrated and enforced by
independent agencies. And while all this had been achieved in an
atmosphere of justice and moderation, it nevertheless constituted a
genuine social revolution..

Factories and shops, large and small, were altered or transformed to
conform to the strictest standards of cleanliness and hygiene:
interiors, so often dark and stifling, were opened up to light;
playing fields were constructed; rest areas where workers could unbend
during break, were set aside; employee cafeterias and respectable
locker rooms were opened. The larger industrial establishments, in
addition to providing the normally required conventional sports
facilities, were obliged to put in swimming pools!

In just three years, these achievements would reach unimagined
heights: more than two thousand factories refitted and beautified;
23,000 work premises modernized; 800 buildings designed exclusively
for meetings; 1,200 playing fields; 13,000 sanitary facilities; 17,000
cafeterias.

To assure the healthy development of the working class, physical
education courses were instituted for younger workers. Some 8,000 were
eventually organized. Technical training was equally emphasized.
Hundreds of work schools, and thousands of technical courses were
created. There were examinations for professional competence, and
competitions in which generous prizes were awarded to outstanding
masters of their craft.

Eight hundred departmental inspectors and 17,300 local inspectors were
employed to conscientiously monitor and promote these improvements.
To provide affordable vacations for German workers on a hitherto
unprecedented scale, Hitler established the "Strength through Joy"
program. As a result, hundreds of thousands of workers were now able
to make relaxing vacation trips on land and sea each summer.
Magnificent cruise ships were built, and special trains brought
vacationers to the mountains and the seashore. In just a few years,
Germany's working-class tourists would log a distance equivalent to 54
times the circumference of the earth! And thanks to generous state
subsidies, the cost to workers of these popular vacation excursions
was nearly insignificant..

Was Hitler's transformation of the lot of the working class
authoritarian? Without a doubt. And yet, for a people that had grown
sick and tired of anarchy, this new authoritarianism wasn't regarded
as an imposition. In fact, people have always accepted a strong man's
leadership.

In any case, there is no doubt that the attitude of the German working
class, which was still two-thirds non-Nazi at the start of 1933, soon
changed completely. As Belgian author Marcel Laloire noted at the
time:

When you make your way through the cities of Germany and go into the
working-class districts, go through the factories, the construction
yards, you are astonished to find so many workers on the job sporting
the Hitler insignia, to see so many flags with the swastika, black on
a bright red background, in the most densely populated districts.
Hitler's "German Labor Front" (Deutsche Arbeitsfront), which
incorporated all workers and employers, was for the most part eagerly
accepted. The steel spades of the sturdy young lads of the "National
Labor Service" (Reichsarbeitsdienst) could also be seen gleaming along
the highways.

Hitler created the National Labor Service not only to alleviate
unemployment, but to bring together, in absolute equality, and in the
same uniform, both the sons of millionaires and the sons of the
poorest families for several months' common labor and living.
All performed the same work, all were subject to the same discipline;
they enjoyed the same pleasures and benefited from the same physical
and moral development. At the same construction sites and in the same
barracks, Germans became conscious of what they had in common, grew to
understand one another, and discarded their old prejudices of class
and caste.

After a hitch in the National Labor Service, a young worker knew that
the rich man's son was not a pampered monster, while the young lad of
wealthy family knew that the worker's son had no less honor than a
nobleman or an heir to riches; they had lived and worked together as
comrades. Social hatred was vanishing, and a socially united people
was being born.

Hitler could go into factories-something few men of the so-called
Right would have risked in the past-and hold forth to crowds of
workers, at times in the thousands, as at the huge Siemens works. "In
contrast to the von Papens and other country gentlemen," he might tell
them, "in my youth I was a worker like you. And in my heart of hearts,
I have remained what I was then."

During his twelve years in power, no untoward incident ever occurred
at any factory he visited. Hitler was at home when he went among the
people, and he was received like a member of the family returning home
after making a success of himself.

But the Chancellor of the Third Reich wanted more than popular
approval. He wanted that approval to be freely, widely, and repeatedly
expressed by popular vote. No people was ever be more frequently asked
for their electoral opinion than the German people of that era-five
times in five years.

For Hitler, it was not enough that the people voted from time to time,
as in the previous democratic system. In those days, voters were
rarely appealed to, and when they expressed an opinion, they were
often ill-informed and apathetic. After an election, years might go
by, during which the politicians were heedless and inaccessible, the
electorate powerless to vote on their actions.

To enable the German public to express its opinion on the occasion of
important events of social, national, or international significance,
Hitler provided the people a new means of approving or rejecting his
own actions as Chancellor: the plebiscite.

Hitler recognized the right of all the people, men and women alike, to
vote by secret ballot: to voice their opinion of his policies, or to
make a well-grounded judgment on this or that great decision in
domestic or foreign affairs. Rather than a formalistic routine,
democracy became a vital, active program of supervision that was
renewed annually.

The articles of the "Plebiscite Law" were brief and clear:

1.The Reich government may ask the people whether or not it approves
of a measure planned by or taken by the government. This may also
apply to a law.

2. A measure submitted to plebiscite will be considered as established
when it receives a simple majority of the votes. This will apply as
well to a law modifying the Constitution.

3. If the people approves the measure in question, it will be applied
in conformity with article III of the Law for Overcoming the Distress
of the People and the Reich.

The Reich Interior Ministry is authorized to take all legal and
administrative measures necessary to carry out this law.
Berlin, July 14, 1933.
Hitler, Frick..

From the first months of 1933, his accomplishments were public fact,
for all to see. Before end of the year, unemployment in Germany had
fallen from more than 6,000,000 to 3,374,000. Thus, 2,627,000 jobs had
been created since the previous February, when Hitler began his
"gigantic task!" A simple question: Who in Europe ever achieved
similar results in so short a time?..

In his detailed and critical biography of Hitler, Joachim Fest limited
his treatment of Hitler's extraordinary social achievements in 1933 to
a few paragraphs. All the same, Fest did not refrain from
acknowledging:

The regime insisted that it was not the rule of one social class above
all others, and by granting everyone opportunities to rise, it in fact
demonstrated class neutrality-These measures did indeed break through
the old, petrified social structures. They tangibly improved the
material condition of much of the population. (J. Fest, Hitler, pp.
434-435.)

Not without reason were the swastika banners waving proudly throughout
the working-class districts where, just a year ago, they had been
unceremoniously torn down.

Topaz

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is
the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."

"The largest so-called bourgeois mass meetings were accustomed to
dissolve, and those in attendance would run away like rabbits when
frightened by a dog as soon as a dozen communists appeared on the
scene."

"We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeosie
and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions, and our
aims.
"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful
deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to
arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings--if only
to break them up--so that in this way we got a chance of talking to
the people."

"At meetings, particularly outside Munich, we had in those days from
five to eight hundred opponents against fifteen to sixteen National
Socialists; yet we brooked no interference, for we were ready to be
killed rather than capitulate. More than once a handful of party
colleagues offered a heroic resistance to a raging and violent mob of
Reds. Those fifteen or twenty men would certainly have been
overwhelmed in the end had not the opponents known that three or four
times as many of themselves would first get their skulls cracked. And
that was a risk they were not willing to run."

When Hitler marched through the streets with his Storm Troops he
carried a walking stick. The Reds came to oppose them and throw stones
and things, but when it got very bad Hitler would raise the stick.
This was the signal to his men to clear the streets of the Reds. And
soon there was not a Red left to be found.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"We have the power. Now our gigantic work begins."
>Those were Hitler's words on the night of January 30, 1933,


Little did Germany know that, a short time later, their "leaders"
would be hung or dead from suicide, and their country in smoking ruin.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
>>

>>From the half-wit? [chuckle] why bother?
>

> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

Mike Gordon

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Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:


I think Topaz meant those were Hitler's LAST words! :)

Can Topaz say where Hitler and his other hero's are now?

Topaz

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An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, January 21, 1945
The Creators of the World's Misfortunes
by Joseph Goebbels

One could not understand this war if one did not always keep in mind
the fact that International Jewry stands behind all the unnatural
forces that our united enemies use to attempt to deceive the world and
keep humanity in the dark. It is so to speak the mortar that holds the
enemy coalition firmly together, despite its differences of class,
ideology and interests. Capitalism and Bolshevism have the same Jewish
roots, two branches of the same tree that in the end bear the same
fruit. International Jewry uses both in its own way to suppress the
nations and keep them in its service. How deep its influence on public
opinion is in all the enemy countries and many neutral nations is
plain to see that it may never be named in newspapers, speeches and
radio broadcasts. There is a law in the Soviet Union that punishes
anti-Semitism - or in plain English, public education about the Jewish
Question - by death. The expert in these matters is in no way
surprised that a leading spokesman for the Kremlin said over the New
Year that the Soviet Union would not rest until this law was valid
throughout the world. In other words, the enemy clearly says that its
goal in this war is to put the total domination of Jewry over the
nations of the earth under legal protection, and to threaten even a
discussion of this shameful attempt with the death penalty.

It is little different in the plutocratic nations. There the struggle
against the impudent usurpation of the Jewish race is not punished by
the executioner, rather by death through economic and social boycott
and by intellectual terror. This has the same effect in the end.
Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt were made by the Jewry. They enjoy its
full support and reward it with their full protection. They present
themselves in their speeches as upright men of civil courage, yet one
never hears even a word against the Jews, even though there is growing
hatred among their people as a result of this war, a hatred that is
fully justified. Jewry is a tabu theme in the enemy countries. It
stands outside every legal boundary and thus becomes the tyrant of its
host peoples. While enemy soldiers fight, bleed and die at the front,
the Jews make money from their sacrifice on the stock exchanges and
black markets. If a brave man dares to step forward and accuse the
Jews of their crimes, he will be mocked and spat on by their press,
chased from his job or otherwise impoverished, and be brought into
public contempt. Even that is apparently not enough for the Jews. They
want to bring Soviet conditions to the whole world: to give Jewry
absolute power and freedom from prosecution. He who objects or even
debates the matter gets a bullet in the back of his head or an axe
through his neck. There is no worse tyranny than this. This is the
epitome of the public and secret disgrace that Jewry inflicts on the
nations that deserve freedom.

That is all long behind us. Yet it still threatens us in the distance.
We have, it is true, entirely broken the power of the Jews in the
Reich, but they have not given up. They did not rest until they had
mobilized the whole world against us. Since they could no longer
conquer Germany from within, they want to try it from without. Every
Russian, English and American soldier is a mercenary of this world
conspiracy of a parasitic race. Given the current state of the war,
who could still believe that they are fighting and dying at the front
for the national interests of their countries! The nations want a
decent peace, but the Jews are against it. They know that the end of
the war would mean the dawning knowledge of humanity of the unhealthy
role that International Jewry played in preparing for and carrying out
this war. They fear being unmasked, which has in fact become
unavoidable and must inevitably come, just as the day follows the
night. That explains their raging bursts of hatred against us, which
are only the result of their fear and their feelings of inferiority.
They are too eager, and that makes them suspicious. International
Jewry will not succeed in turning this war to its advantage. Things
are already too far along. The hour will come in which all the peoples
of the earth will awake, and the Jews will be the victims. Here too
things can only go so far.

It is an old, often-used method of International Jewry to discredit
education and knowledge about its corrupting nature and drives,
thereby depending on the weaknesses of those people who easily confuse
cause with effect. The Jews are also masters at manipulating public
opinion, which they dominate through their network of news agencies
and press concerns that reaches throughout the world. The pitiful
illusion of a free press is one of the methods they use to stupefy the
publics of enemy lands. If the enemy press is as free as it pretends
to be, let it take an open position, for or against, on the Jewish
Question. It will not do that because it cannot and may not do so. The
Jews love to mock and criticize everything except themselves, although
everyone knows that they are most in need of public criticism. This is
where the so-called freedom of the press in enemy countries ends.
Newspapers, parliaments, statesmen and church leaders must be silent
here. Crimes and vices, filth and corruption are covered by the
blanket of love. The Jews have total control of public opinion in
enemy countries, and he who has that is also master of all of public
life. Only the nations that have to accept such a condition are to be
pitied. The Jews mislead them into believing that the German nation is
backward. Our alleged backwardness is actually proof of our progress.
We have recognized the Jews as a national and international danger,
and from this knowledge have drawn compelling conclusions. This German
knowledge will become the knowledge of he world at the end of this
war. We think it our primary duty to do everything in our power to
make that happen.

Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull
and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war. They are the
incarnation of that destructive force that in these terrible years has
guided the enemy war leadership in a fight against all that we see as
noble, beautiful and worth keeping. For that reason alone the Jews
hate it. They despite our culture and learning, which they perceive as
towering over their nomadic worldview. They fear our economic and
social standards, which leave no room for their parasitic drives, They
are the enemy of our domestic order, which has excluded their
anarchistic tendencies. Germany is the first nation in the world that
is entirely free of the Jews. That is the prime cause of its political
and economic balance. Since their expulsion from the German national
body has made it impossible for them to shake this balance from
within, they lead the nations they have deceived in battle against us
from without. It is fine with them, in fact it is part of their plan,
that Europe in the process will lose a large part of its cultural
values. The Jews had no part in their creation. They do not understand
them. A deep racial instinct tells them that since these heights of
human creative activity are forever out of their reach, they must
attack them today with hatred. The day is not distant when the nations
of Europe, yes, even those of the whole world, will shout: The Jews
are guilty for all our misfortunes! They must be called to account,
and soon and thoroughly!
International Jewry is ready with its alibi. Just as during the great
reckoning in Germany, they will attempt to look innocent and say that
one needs a scapegoat, and they are it. But that will no longer help
them, just as it did not help them during the National Socialist
revolution, The proof of their historical guilt, in details large and
small, is so plain that they can no longer be denied even with the
most clever lies and hypocrisy.

Who is it that drives the Russians, the English and the Americans into
battle and sacrifices huge numbers of human lives in a hopeless
struggle against the German people? The Jews! Their newspapers and
radio broadcasts spread the songs of war while the nations they have
deceived are led to the slaughter. Who is it that invents new plans of
hatred and destruction against us every day, making this war into a
dreadful case of self-mutilation and self-destruction of European life
and its economy, education and culture? The Jews! Who devised the
unnatural marriage between England and the USA on one side and
Bolshevism on the other, building it up and jealously ensuring its
continuance? Who covers the most perverse political situations with
cynical hypocrisy from a trembling fear that a new way could lead the
nations to realize the true causes of this terrible human catastrophe?
The Jews, only the Jews! They are named Morgenthau and Lehmann and
stand behind Roosevelt as a so-called brain trust. They are named
Mechett and Sasoon and serve as Churchill's money bags and order
givers. They are named Kaganovitsch and Ehrenburg and are Stalin's
pacesetters and intellectual spokesmen. Wherever you look, you see
Jews. They march as political commisars behind the Red army and
organize murder and terror in the areas conquered by the Soviets. They
sit behind the lines in Paris and Brussels, Rome and Athens, and
fashion their reins from the skin of the unhappy nations that have
fallen under their power.

That is the truth. It can no longer be denied, particularly since in
their drunken joy of power and victory the Jews have forgotten their
ordinarily so carefully maintained reserve and now stand in the
spotlight of public opinion. They no longer bother, apparently
believing that it is no longer necessary, that their hour has come.
And this is their mistake, which they always make when think
themselves near their great goal of anonymous world domination.
Thoughout the history of the nations, whenever this tragic situation
developed, a good providence saw to it that the Jews themselves became
the grave diggers of their own hopes. They did not destroy the healthy
peoples, rather the sting of their parasitic effects brought the
realization of the looming danger to the forefront and led to the
greatest sacrifices to overcome it. At a certain point, they become
that power that always wants evil but creates good. It will be that
way this time too.

The fact that the German nation was the first on earth to recognize
this danger and expel it from its organism is proof of its healthy
instincts. It therefore became the leader of a world struggle whose
results will determine of fate and the future of International Jewry.
We view with complete calm the wild Old Testament tirades of hatred
and revenge of Jews throughout the world against us. They are only
proof that we are on the right path. They cannot unsettle us. We gaze
on them with sovereign contempt and remember that these outbursts of
hate and revenge were everyday events for us in Germany until that
fateful day for International Jewry, 30 January 1933, when the world
revolution against the Jews that threateend not only Germany, but all
the other nations, began.
It will not cease before it has reached its goal. The truth can not be
stopped by lies or force. It will get through. The Jews will meet
their Cannae at the end of this war. Not Europe, rather they will
lose. They may laugh at this prophecy today, but they have laughed so
often in the past, and almost as often they stopped laughing sooner or
later. Not only do we know precisely what we want, we also know
precisely what we do not want. The deceived nations of he Earth may
still lack the knowledge they need, but we will bring it to them. How
will the Jews stop that in the long run? They believe their power
rests on sure foundations, but it stands on feet of clay. One hard
blow and it will collapse, burying the creators of the misfortunes of
the world in its ruins.

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England's Guilt
by Joseph Goebbels

It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into
the war against their will or even against their intentions. The
opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all
the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They
surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal
other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and
this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.
Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the
Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not
support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian
reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help
of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any
measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring
clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of
aggression against Germany.

The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was
traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always
directed its main military might against Germany. It never could
tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by
claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.

Today there is still another reason. The English warmongers conceal
it. It is crassly egotistic. The English prime minister announced the
day the war began that England's goal was to destroy Hitlerism.
However, he defined Hitlerism in a way other than how the English
plutocracy actually sees it. The English warmongers claim that
National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure
against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger
for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality,
however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The
English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to
conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England
controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has
never threatened English interests.

So when Chamberlain says that England wants to destroy Hitlerism in
this war, he is in one sense incorrect. But in another sense, he is
speaking the truth. England does want to destroy Hitlerism. It sees
Hitlerism as the present internal state of the Reich, which is a thorn
in the eye of English plutocracy.

England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's
state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest
land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact
the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of
this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished,
socially enslaved and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter
of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs.
Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is
there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums.
Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of
it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly
brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate from making
major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve
capitalist democracy.

Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social
ailment. The Lords and City people can remain the richest people one
earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting
their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own
country.

Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and
modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English
plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy
Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that
have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly
fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English
capitalism.
That is why England declared war on Germany. Since it was accustomed
to letting others fight its wars, it looked to the European continent
to find those ready to fight for England's interests. France was ready
to take on this degrading duty, since the same kind of people ruled
France. They too were ready for war out of egotistic reasons. Western
European democracy is really only a Western European plutocracy that
rules the world. It declared war on German socialism because it
endangered their capitalist interests.
A similar drama began in 1914. England had more luck during those four
and a half years than it is having today. Europe's nations had no
chance to see what was happening. The nations of Europe today have no
desire to play the same role they played during the World War. England
and France stand alone. Still, England is trying once again to wage
war without making any personal sacrifice. The goal is to blockade
Germany, to gradually bring it to submit by starvation. That is
longstanding English policy. They used it successfully in the
Napoleonic wars, and also during the World War. It would work now as
well, if the German people had not been educated by National
Socialism. National Socialism is immune to English temptations.
English propaganda lies no longer work in Germany. They have gradually
lost their effectiveness in the rest of the world as well, since
German propaganda today reaches far beyond its borders. This time,
English plutocracy will not succeed in driving a wedge between the
German people and their leadership, though that is their goal.

The German nation today is defending not only its honor and
independence, but also the great social accomplishments it has made
through hard and untiring work since 1933. It is a people's state
built on the foundation of justice and economic good sense. In the
past, England always had the advantage of facing a fragmented Germany.
It is only natural that English plutocracy today seeks to split the
German people and make it ripe for new collapse.

English lying propaganda can no longer name things by their proper
names. It therefore claims that it is not fighting the German people,
only Hitlerism. But we know this old song. In South Africa, England
was not fighting the Boers, only Krugerism. In the World War, England
wanted to destroy Kaiserism, not the German people. But that did not
stop English plutocracy from brutally and relentlessly suppressing the
Boers after that war or the Germans after our defeat.

A child once burned is twice shy. The German people were once victims
of lying English war propaganda. Now it understands the situation. It
has long understood the background of this war. It knows that behind
all English plutocratic capitalism's fine words, its aim is to destroy
Germany's social achievements. We are defending the socialism we have
build in Germany since 1933 with every military, economic and
spiritual means at our disposal. The bald English lies have no impact
on the German people.

English plutocracy is finally being forced to defend itself. In the
past, it always found other nations to fight for it. This time, the
English people must themselves risk their necks for the lords and City
men. They will meet a unified German people of workers, farmers and
soldiers who are prepared to defend their nation with every means at
their disposal.

We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy
forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have
to pay for it.

The whole world is waking up today. It can no longer be ruled by the
capitalist methods of the 19th Century. The peoples have matured. They
will one day deal a terrible blow to the capitalist plutocrats who are
the cause of their misery.

It is no accident that National Socialism has the historical task of
carrying out this reckoning. Plutocracy is collapsing intellectually,
spiritually, and in the not too distant future, militarily. We are
acting consistently with Nietzsche's words: "Give a shove to what is
falling."

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Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:

"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'

In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'

She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.

To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.

They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.

The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.

I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.

To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.

The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.

Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...

One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.

It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.

They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.

I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'

However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'

They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.

To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.

For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.

As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....

Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.

On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.

If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.

I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.

The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:38:05 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"We have the power. Now our gigantic work begins."
>>>Those were Hitler's words on the night of January 30, 1933,
>>
>>
>>Little did Germany know that, a short time later, their "leaders"
>>would be hung or dead from suicide, and their country in smoking ruin.
>
>
> An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,

Proven liar.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>England's Guilt
>by Joseph Goebbels

Proven liar.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>Here is part of Hitler's speech

From the half-wit? Why bother?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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>England's Guilt
>by Joseph Goebbels


nazi Guilt

According to the Nuremberg Trials, there were four major war crimes
that were alleged against German military (and Waffen-SS and NSDAP)
men and officers, each with individual events that made up the major
charges.

1. Participation in a common plan of conspiracy for the accomplishment
of crimes against peace

2. Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes
against peace

* Planning and executing a campaign of invasion of its European
neighbors, as well as the conspiracy to violate the Treaty of
Versailles and the Treaty of Saint-Germain through the
remilitarization of the Rhineland, and the annexations of Austria and
Czechoslovakia.

3. War Crimes These were limited to atrocities against combatants or
conventional crimes committed by military units (see War crimes of the
Wehrmacht), and include:

* Invasion of Poland, in the period of 1 September - 25 October
1939 German Wehrmacht during its military actions engaged in
executions of Polish POWs, bombed hospitals, murdered civilians, shot
refugees, executed wounded soldiers. The cautious estimates give a
number of at least 16,000 murdered victims[4]
* Pacification Operations in German occupied Poland, during the
occupation of Poland by German Reich, Wehrmacht forces took part in
several pacification actions in rural areas, that resulted in murder
of at least 20,000 Polish villagers
* Le Paradis massacre, May 1940, British soldiers of the Royal
Norfolk Regiment, captured by the SS and subsequently murdered. Fritz
Knoechlein tried, found guilty and hanged.
* Wormhoudt massacre, May 1940, British and French soldiers
captured by the SS and subsequently murdered. No one found guilty of
the crime.
* d'Ardenne Massacres, June 1944 Canadian soldiers captured by the
SS and murdered by 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend. SS General
Kurt Meyer (Panzermeyer) sentenced to be shot 1946; sentence commuted;
released 1954
* Malmedy massacre, December 1944, United States POWs captured by
Kampfgruppe Peiper were murdered outside of Malmedy, Belgium.
* Gardelegen (war crime)
* Marzabotto massacre
* Sant'Anna di Stazzema
* Cefalonia Massacre
* Oradour-sur-Glane
* The annihilation of the Czech city of Lidice. As an act of
vengeance for the murder of Reinhard Heydrich.
* Massacre of Kalavryta
* Distomo massacre
* The suppression of the 1944 Warsaw Uprising and subsequent
leveling of the whole city
* The treatment of Soviet POWs throughout the war, who were not
given the protections and guarantees of the Geneva Convention
* Unrestricted submarine warfare against merchant shipping
* Vinkt Massacre
* Heusden; town hall massacre (November 1944).
4. Crimes against Humanity These were crimes that were committed well
away from the lines of battle and were unconnected in any way to
military activity.

* The major crime was the Holocaust, including:
o The construction and use of Vernichtungslagern, most
prominently at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Treblinka, Majdanek, Belzec,
Sobib�r, and Chelmno
+ The employment of other camps across Europe,
including Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Mauthausen and Bergen-Belsen which
served unofficially as death camps to a degree
o Death marches of prisoners, particularly in the last
months of the war when the aforementioned camps were being overrun by
the Allies
o The widespread use of slave labor and forced/unfree labor
by the Nazi regime, including the use of concentration camp and
extermination camp prisoners as slaves
o The establishment of Jewish Ghettos in Eastern Europe
o The use of SS Einsatzgruppen, mobile extermination squads
o Babi Yar
o Rumbula
o Dnepropetrovsk
o Ninth Fort
o Simferopol
o The massacre of 100,000 Jews and Poles at Paneriai
o The suppression of the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising which
erupted when the SS came to clear the ghetto and send all of the
occupants to extermination camps
o Izieu Massacre

Other crimes against humanity included:

* The Porajmos, the Nazi pogrom against the Romany peoples of
Europe
* The Lapanka or "Catching Game," � Nazi roundups of Poles in the
major cities for slave labor and other purposes
* Nikolaev Massacre
* Operation Tannenberg, the AB Action and the Massacre of Lw�w
professors, all Nazi actions in Poland meant to mass murder the Polish
intelligentsia and other potential leaders of resistance.
* The Nazi T-4 Euthanasia Program, an aborted eugenics program
meant to kill German children who were mentally or physically
handicapped. 200,000 people were gassed to death due to this program.
* The Nazi crimes against Soviet POWs, resulted in some 3.3
million to 3.5 million deaths, about 60% of all Soviet POWs.[14]

At least 10 million, and perhaps over 20 million innocent
non-combatants were systematically murdered by the Nazi regime in the
commission of crimes against humanity, of which the Holocaust lives on
in particular infamy, since the largest number of deaths happened
among Jewish citizens of states invaded or controlled by the Nazi
regime. At least 5 to 6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis,
although a complete count may never be known. Though much of
Continental Europe suffered from the Nazi murders, Poland and Russia,
in particular, were the states most devastated by these crimes, with
many of their Jewish and a good number of their Christian citizens
slaughtered by the Nazi aggressor. After the war, from 1945 to 1949,
the Nazi regime was put on trial in two tribunals in Nuremberg,
Germany by the victorious Allied powers. The first tribunal indicted
24 major Nazi war criminals, and resulted in 19 convictions (of which
12 led to death sentences) and 3 acquittals, 2 of the accused died
before a verdict was rendered. The second tribunal indicted 185
members of the military, economic, and political leadership of Nazi
Germany, of which 142 were convicted and 35 were acquitted. In
subsequent decades, approximately 20 additional war criminals who
escaped capture in the immediate aftermath of World War II were tried
in West Germany and Israel. In Germany and many other European
nations, the Nazi Party is outlawed.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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>Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
>on December 10, 1940:

_______
Mein Kampf, due to its racist content and the historical effect of
Nazism upon Europe during the Second World War and the Holocaust, is
considered a highly controversial book. However, criticism has not
come solely from direct opponents of Nazism. Italian Fascist dictator
Benito Mussolini, himself experienced in writing and editing for
newspapers, was also critical of the book. Mussolini attempted to read
the book, but was disappointed and claimed that Mein Kampf was "a
boring tome that I have never been able to read" and remarked that
Hitler's beliefs expressed in the book were "little more than
commonplace clich�s."
-Smith. 1983. Mussolini: A Biography. New York: Vintage Books. p172

Topaz

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>> An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>
>Proven liar.


Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
the Will.

"It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and
precisely. This is especially true since in past decades it was
subject to unfavorable definitions, particularly as the enemy defined
it with regards to us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those
abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly
good in this area, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the
facts. We learned this all too clearly during the World War. While the
enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at
Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely
defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly
won over the greater part of the neutral states did the German
government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too
late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the
war, so too with propaganda. We lost the war in this area more than in
any other.

The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war
was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even
today large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical
characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing
the facts and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that
were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about
German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to
realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of
calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.

The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation,
particularly as the result of political practice in Germany.
Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern
state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the
subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not
only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand
that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes
everything that helps the people to realize this.

Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is
aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people
because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the
highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts
in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its
foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand,
rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a
question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach,
evidence and language.

Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to
an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without
internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a
superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it
wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such
is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals
it seeks."

"Each propaganda had a direction. The quality of this direction
determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good
propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people
cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the
truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A
propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be
successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along
that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good
cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is
good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. But a good idea
is itself the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without
being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works
without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it
is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will
lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other
side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are for example
convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not
enough. The world should also have known that our cause was good.
However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that
clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals.
Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich and the army
because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.

National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the
correct practical conclusions from that knowledge. The ideal of a
socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but
became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million
Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for
that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of
remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda,
it became hard, steely everyday reality."

"Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its
elimination was the end result of a process that began in the people.
But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people
that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive
national discipline of the German press would never have been possible
without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish
press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our
propaganda. Today particularism in Germany is something of the past.
The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich
is no accident, rather depended on psychological foundations that were
established by our propaganda.

Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of
class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not
rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings
resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and
workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor
is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and
more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and
tireless labor of thousands of speakers?"

"We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the
people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major
cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are
possible only with the powerful support of the people. The
prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and
maintains the connection to the people.

The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million Marks. This was
not the result of taxation, rather many gifts of every amount.
Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done
nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda
using every modern means presented the whole nation with the need of
this program of social assistance.

45 million Reich Marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million
Reich Marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich Marks
worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich Marks worth of meals
were provided, and 70 million Reich Marks worth of clothing.

Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind,
others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of
a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts
subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million
Reich Marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of "One Dish
Sundays." The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the
contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or
free shipping with a value of 14 million Marks.

Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter
Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid
workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 Gaue and 330 in the Reich
headquarters.

Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social
assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success
was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was
cold.

Over 40 million people approved of the Fuehrer's decision to leave the
League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to
speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace
and equality as the national ideals of the German people. The issues
of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again,
propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November,
and therefore of the freedom of action that the Fuehrer had.

Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the
support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda
that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public
life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public
opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership
and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the
goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose and
goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and
ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over
other nations will never again be lost.

May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives
light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda.
Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and
drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging
technical means. Only a living relationship between people, movement
and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, which we
have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into
bureaucracy and official narrow-mindedness.

Creative people made it and put it in the service of our movement. We
must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its
service.

It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm
ground on which it must stand. It rises from the depths of the people,
and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength.
It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer
lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a nation."

Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
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> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>> Proven liar.
>
>
> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,

What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

Topaz

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"For us there are only two possibilities: either we remain German or
we come under the thumb of the Jews. This latter must not occur; even
if we are small, we are a force. A well-organized group can conquer a
strong enemy. If you stick close together and keep bringing in new
people, we will be victorious over the Jews."

Adolf Hitler
SPEECH OF NOVEMBER 9, 1921

Topaz

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Here are some quotes from the German pamphlet "How they Lie" from
1940. The pamphlet has many pictures but the words alone are
interesting enough:

"For example, what would you say if a colleague of yours, whom you
regarded as a rival and who disliked you, were to spread the rumor
that your household is in disorder, that you murder small children and
rape defenseless women? Rest assured that in our country such a person
would soon be behind bars.

But the international politicians and journalists who slander entire
peoples in a shameless manner not only run around freely, they
impudently put on airs as the saviors of human culture. No lie is too
crude for them, no slander too vulgar-they understand their craft.
Even in World War I they knew how to incite hate with the help of
atrocity propaganda. We all recall those daily lies of the "German
barbarian" who, "like a wild beast rages over the earth and destroys
everything in hate and the fury of annihilation, who tortures children
and delights in the tears of mothers," as a foreign paper once wrote.

In war, man stands against man. Each serves the Fatherland in his own
way, and no soldier will deny the knightly convictions of a noble
opponent. Today, however, a cowardly gang of professional agitators
daily invents new lies and pictures from the safety of their desks.

How was the German soldier once depicted by enemy atrocity propaganda?
We all know them, for we had fathers, brothers, sons, and men out
there. For instance, on 20 March 1915, the newspaper "Le Rire Rouge"
published the following picture of the good German soldier:

A bloodthirsty murderer of women and children, a robber and plunderer,
who nourishes himself with sausages made from human flesh-that was how
it saw the brave and loyal German soldier.

Each of us knows what a crude and baseless lie this is. Every decent
person in the world should have known this. And yet: "Some of it will
always be believed, the stupid and gullible will never see through it
all" - so hope the political liars and slanderers.
We know what to think about this flood of slander flowing over the
German people. We heard the same things between 1914 and 1918. Then as
now, they are attempting to drive a wedge between leaders and people.
The goal of this propaganda is always the annihilation of Germany.

We are also familiar with the old lie about the desecration of
churches and shrines, which are once again in fashion with our
enemies.

This is the undamaged cathedral of Tschenstochau.
The picture of the Polish shrine of the Black Madonna, with the German
soldiers in the foreground, was taken after its alleged destruction by
German bombers.
While the lying and yellow press of the entire world and the enemy
transmitters were inventing hypocritical stories about the presumed
destruction of the holy shrine, the Prior of Tschenstochau wrote the
above letter to the German military authorities that clearly testifies
that the monastery and holy shrine were untouched.

Thus the lie regarding supposed German attack could be immediately
exposed. The English Ministry of Advertising has had nothing to say
since.
In reality, these lies are ancient. Our enemies always babble about
violated sanctuaries, persecuted priests, murdered children and
tortured women in order to prejudice the world against Germany and to
arouse the impression that the world must be defended against "the
barbarians who are threatening human culture."

The picture above is taken from a leafet dated 19 August 1914. The
same lie was used back then. Supposedly the Germans had attacked the
monastery at Jasno-Gora.

They always lied, they lie today, they lie, they lie.
There were countless numbers of these malicious pictures in World War
I. Today we see the new versions of this crude charge. Enemy radio
reports reports of drugged candy and poison gas-filled children's
balloons, with which German troops allegedly killed Polish children.
And our enemies decided to spread this vile slander in the exact
moment that the world heard from neutral journalists about the
unimaginable crimes perpetrated by the Polish on fellow German
countrymen. All of these neutral independent reporters saw and
corroborated the terrible atrocities against Germans with their own
eyes. In light of these proven facts, the shameless enemy presumes to
turn the tables and pin these murders on the Germans, declaring that
the murdered, whose names and addresses are known, are Poles.

They hate the Fuehrer, because he exposes their lies and crimes.
They hate him, because he rescued the hard-working German people from
eploitation. How happy they would be to see the F�hrer and the entire
German people delivered into the dark machinations of the world
Jewry! It shows the impotence of the Jews, since all they can do is
drag a straw man through the streets and burn it.
What do these subhumans know about the joy of a genuine national
community? These warmongers are hard at work rousing the world against
Germany. How little they know about the indisoluble bond between
F�hrer and people that is so overwhelmingly clear in this picture:

The Fuehrer speaks with German workers.
He knows that he can trust them, and they know that our cause is in
his good hands.

The enemy countries, who are so worried about the fate of the German
people, also worry about the S. A.

We have often seen them; we know how these men look. They are our
comrades, our colleagues in the workplace, our fathers, brothers, sons
and men.
Do they look like this? Since when are these imagined daggers the true
symbol of the S. A.? Once again some professional liar has taken his
pen in his hand.
They lie, they lie....

German men from all regions and occupations use their free time and
energy in regular practice, so they can be ready to serve the
community. When in the summer of 1939 the agricultural labor force was
too small to bring in the rich harvest, these men freely joined in to
help with the harvest, serving the homeland on peaceful fields. Why
does the enemy press, which loves to speak of its objective reporting,
never carry such pictures of Germany?

The more one examines their endless scribbling and radio news, the
clearer one sees that these expert liars have never spoken the truth,
not even once.
This time a newspaper really outdid itself. Here we see how a German
holiday is libeled.

Christmas and Nazi Winter Relief
We all know this picture. It is the Christmas celebration of a German
family that did not have the means by itself to celebrate this holiday
of love in the way the F�hrer wishes, in the way that every German
family should experience.
The NSV got involved.

Helpers, men and women, walked upstairs and downstairs, heard the
wishes of the needy, and provided gifts.
We all know the results. In any case, the 80 million people of the
greater German Reich know that the liar who drew the picture on the
previous page of an alleged German Christmas is not only a liar but
also an idiot. If the gentlemen wanted to lie, they should have at
least started out more intelligently, so that they were not found out
immediately.
What National Socialist Germany has done and continues to do for
working people is unique in the entire world.

The foreign plutocratic countries that are dominated by high finance
viewed this new and happy life with envy and ill-will. They never
ceased in their endeavor to compel this new Germany into war, to keep
it in the same miserable state it was in after the Treaty of
Versailles.

But Germany knows what it has to lose. And because it is stronger than
the rest of the world, it will end this struggle victoriously.

Mr. Churchill, English warmonger, First Lord of the Admiralty,
architect of the encirclement campaign had it easy in the fall of
1939.
When he decided to wage war against Germany, he selected four English
passenger ships that were sailing to America. Then he sent the above
telegram, dated 28 August 1939, to Cunard White Star Lines, compelling
them to turn German passengers away from these ships, as they would be
uncomfortable eyewitnesses. See the accompanying letter from the
shipping company, dated 29 August 1939. Churchill then sent suitable
"rescue ships" to be "coincidentally" on the course of these ships,
which were now loaded with Americans. The Athenia was torpedoed and
sunk. If the affair with the "Athenia" not worked, then one of the
other three ships would have been sunk,so that Mr. Churchill would
have more stories for the English Ministry of Lies.

We know the rest. The yellow press of the world blows Churchill's
lying horn obediently: a German submarine allegedly sank the
"Athenia."
But the evil, criminal escapade failed. Germany got hold of the
documents and exposed the criminals.

Once again, one of the vilest and most base of the English lies is
exposed.
The following story is perhaps the best way of showing the reality of
moneybags journalism, and how decent foreign journalists are forced to
invent lie afer lie.
A couple of months ago, a foreign journalist whose name we must hide
in order to protect his job, came to Germany. He wanted to see the
alleged "Nazi hell" with his own eyes, in order to give an eyewitness
account.

He saw workers who had jobs. He saw workers taking vacations with the
KdF. And he saw workers going to the theater. He saw the NSV's charity
for the poor. He saw and was amazed.

He had not expected to see that! How could he, knowing the truth,
continue to write lies and false atrocity stories about Germany, like
the financiers of his newspaper want it?...
In German camps, criminals and misfits live in clean and orderly
accommodations, receive sufficient nourishment and have enough time
for both work and play.
The foreign press reporter visited one of these camps.
The officials of the German concentration camp were outraged when they
later read his article.

The article talked about piles of corpses over which the poor reporter
had to climb, of moaning people in dark dungeons, of caning orgies and
other such imaginary atrocities.
The man had seemed so honest. How could he lie like that? What had
happened? The journalist wrote a letter to explain. He had written a
truthful account of what he had seen at the concentration camp.

But the owner of the newspaper switched everything around. Naturally
there are decent foreign papers that would never falsify the facts
like that, but we are not talking about them here.

The newspaperman begged the Germans not to take action against his
paper or the publisher who falsified the report, because then he would
lose his job.
That is how freedom of the press looks like in other countries; that
is how the lies and fairy tales come to be.

The Fuehrer spoke about the criminal newspaper Jews and the war
profiteers, in his speech on 6 October. They order the journalists and
radio reporters around like schoolboys. These "servants of public
opinion" are not allowed to have convictions or express their true
opinions, and only a very few exceptions prove this rule. They must
lie and slander and blacken Germany and its Fuehrer to keep the
gentlemen behind the plutocratic, moneybag policies in business.

But why do these newspaper moneybags lie so crudely, so stupidly, so
impudently? Why do they spread their slander all over Germany of all
places?

They lie because they are weak and Germany is strong. They lie because
they want to make money by going to war against Germany, even though
the people do not want to go to war and are scared to go to war
against a strong Germany...

Things are a thousand times better here. Things are more honest and
fair here than anywhere in the entire world.
Here we recognize the honor of the worker.
Here there is a right to work.
Here the moneybags are not in control...
In conclusion:
We will not be confused by the lies of the foreign countries! We know
what we are fighting for!

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:22:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>>
>>Proven liar.
>
>
>Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels

In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
mentally. Having started what they cannot stop, they call upon their
nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
destruction and terror.


Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
by Joseph Goebbels

Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
Siberia?


"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.

Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family and begged
to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"For us there are only two possibilities: either we remain German or
>we come under the thumb of the Jews.

Looks like Hitler CHOSE "come under the thumb of the Jews!"

Unless you're going to admit that he was a lunatic....... but we know
you're not going to do that.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Here are some quotes from the German pamphlet "How they Lie" from
>1940. The pamphlet has many pictures

Which is why it's so popular among nazis. Those words and ideas get SO
confusing.......

[chuckle]

_____________________
"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
building of character."
-Goebbels

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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Tim Miller

> Topaz wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:22:32 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>> An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>>> Proven liar.
>>
>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>
> What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?


The part where contemporary LIBs give a damn?


"Look at the liars and the propagandists among us"
-- Bill Clinton'09

The Road to Tyranny begins with the Destruction of the Truth
-- Bill Clinton'95


"We have a simpler, clearer path to the future
than we did when I was there"
Bill Clinton'09

Topaz

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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:34:20 -0400, Tim Miller
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


>>
>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>
>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

The speech proves that you have your head up your aft end. I didn't
expect you to read it. But I post it anyway. Here it is again:

Tim Miller

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Topaz

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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:54:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>mentally. Having started what they cannot stop, they call upon their
>nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
>destruction and terror.


Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down M�llerstra�e it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.

Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.

The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.

Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.

No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.

It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.

We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.

Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force.
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.

If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"

That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.

As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.

At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.

Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.

The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.

Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.

In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."

Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"

Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platform I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where
there were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised
by what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.


>
>
>Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
>by Joseph Goebbels
>
>Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
>and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
>resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
>British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
>their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
>Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
>to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
>parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
>but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
>would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
>a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
>behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
>dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
>and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
>Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
>between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
>clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
>Siberia?

A fine speech. You must be reading with Jew colored glasses or
something.


>
>
>"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.
>
>Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family and begged
>to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:


The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986

"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety.
We will not let her pass our sentries on the roads. We are turning her
and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."

p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."

Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945

"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."

At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.

>
>"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

The bad side won the war. There is nothing to chuckle about.

Topaz

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the
Jewish Press is not a staunch German and not a true National
Socialist. The best rule whereby the sincerity of his convictions, his
character and strength of will, can be measured is by the hostility
which his name arouses among the mortal enemies of our people.

"The followers of the movement, and indeed the whole nation,
must be reminded again and again of the fact that, through the medium
of his newspapers, the Jew is always spreading falsehood and that if
he tells the truth on some occasions it is only for the purpose of
masking some greater deceit, which turns the apparent truth into a
deliberate falsehood. The Jew is the Great Master of Lies. Falsehood
and duplicity are the weapons with which he fights.

"Every calumny and falsehood published by the Jews are tokens of
honor which can be worn by our comrades. He whom they decry most is
nearest to our hearts and he whom they mortally hate is our best
friend.

"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning
and does not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday
to no account. For if he had achieved something he would be
persecuted, slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively
combat this mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the
enemy of all Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse
opposition on the part of this race and become the object of its
slanderous attacks.

"When these truths become part of the flesh and blood, as it
were, of our members, then the movement will be impregnable and
invincible."

" Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with that fact
before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my
respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style became
still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as entirely
shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation of facts
and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain more
falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.

"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand
things which I had formerly looked at in a different light."

"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
>
> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
>

That was the book written in prison by a self admitted
half-wit... why would anyone care?

Mike Gordon

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Tim Miller wrote:

> Topaz wrote:

>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>
>
> What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

100% of it?
Topaz seemed to forget that Hitler was a Jew, just like Jesus was... you
know, the same people they claim to hate, but claimed to love, yet
hate... yet Believe in... and Hmmm, how confusing for Topaz and his ilk!

Mike Gordon

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Topaz wrote:

> The speech proves that you have your head up your aft end. I didn't
> expect you to read it. But I post it anyway. Here it is again:

(snip)
Like you, Goebbels, Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito, are all proven losers!

You are brain dead, but don't know it!

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:54:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>>mentally. Having started what they cannot stop, they call upon their
>>nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
>>destruction and terror.
>
>
> Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:


Goebbels is a proven liar. And a coward, I might add.

In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
mentally. Having started what they cannot stop, they call upon their
nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
destruction and terror.

Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
by Joseph Goebbels

Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
Siberia?

"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.

Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family and begged
to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

_______

Topaz

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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:20:16 -0400, Tim Miller
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>
>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

Topaz

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The question of Mr. Hitler's ancestry is dealt with at the beginning
of Ian Kershaw's 840+ page book entitled Hitler (Harmondsworth,
Penguin: 1998).

<begin quote at p. 7>
The third possibility is that Adolf Hitler's grandfather was Jewish.
Rumours to that effect circulated in Munich cafes in the early 1920s,
and were fostered by sensationalist journalism of the foreign press
during the 1930s. It was suggested that the name Huttler was Jewish,
'revealed' that he could be traced to a Jewish family called Hitler in
Bucharest, and even claimed that his father had been sired by Baron
Rothschild, in whose house in Vienna his grandmother had allegedly
spent
some time as a servant. But the most serious speculation about
Hitler's supposed Jewish background has occurred since the Second
World War and is directly traceable to the memoirs of the leading Nazi
lawyer and Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, dictated in his
Nuremburg cell while awaiting the hangman...


Allegedly commissioned by Hitler to look into his family history,
Frank reportedly discovered that Maria Anna Shicklgruber had given
birth to her child while serving as a cook in the home of a Jewish
family called Grankenberger in Graz...

Frank's story gained wide circulation in the 1950s. But it simply does
not stand up. There was no Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz
during the 1880s. In fact, there were no Jews at all in the whole of
Styria at that time, since Jews were not permitted in that part of
Austria until the 1860s. A family named Frankenreiter did live there,
but was not Jewish . . . Hans Frank's memoirs, dictated at a time of
when he was waiting for the hangman and plainly undergoing a
psychological crisis, are full of inaccuracies and have to be used
with caution. With regard to the story of Hitler's grandfather,
whoever he was, he was not a Jew from Graz.

The only serious contenders for the paternity of Hitler's father
remain, therefore, Johann Georg Hiedler and Johann Nepomuk Hiedler (or
Huttler).

<end quote>

Topaz

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Topaz

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the

Topaz

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:


"the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is
the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."

"The largest so-called bourgeois mass meetings were accustomed to
dissolve, and those in attendance would run away like rabbits when
frightened by a dog as soon as a dozen communists appeared on the
scene."

"We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeosie
and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions, and our
aims.
"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful
deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to
arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings--if only
to break them up--so that in this way we got a chance of talking to
the people."

"At meetings, particularly outside Munich, we had in those days from
five to eight hundred opponents against fifteen to sixteen National
Socialists; yet we brooked no interference, for we were ready to be
killed rather than capitulate. More than once a handful of party
colleagues offered a heroic resistance to a raging and violent mob of
Reds. Those fifteen or twenty men would certainly have been
overwhelmed in the end had not the opponents known that three or four
times as many of themselves would first get their skulls cracked. And
that was a risk they were not willing to run."

When Hitler marched through the streets with his Storm Troops he
carried a walking stick. The Reds came to oppose them and throw stones
and things, but when it got very bad Hitler would raise the stick.
This was the signal to his men to clear the streets of the Reds. And
soon there was not a Red left to be found.

Tim Miller

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Klaus Schadenfreude

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>Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels

Klaus Schadenfreude

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> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

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>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:54:40 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
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>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>mentally.

Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not

>Having started what they cannot stop,


By Mark Weber

Much has already been written about Roosevelt's campaign of deception
and outright lies in getting the United States to intervene in the
Second World War prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in
December 1941. Roosevelt's aid to Britain and the Soviet Union in
violation of American neutrality and international law, his acts of
war against Germany in the Atlantic in an effort to provoke a German
declaration of war against the United States, his authorization of a
vast "dirty tricks" campaign against U.S. citizens by British
intelligence agents in violation of the Constitution, and his
provocations and ultimatums against Japan which brought on the attack
against Pearl Harbor-all this is extensively documented and reasonably
well known.[1]

Not so well known is the story of Roosevelt's enormous responsibility
for the outbreak of the Second World War itself. This essay focuses on
Roosevelt's secret campaign to provoke war in Europe prior to the
outbreak of hostilities in September 1939. It deals particularly with
his efforts to pressure Britain, France and Poland into war against
Germany in 1938 and 1939.

Franklin Roosevelt not only criminally involved America in a war which
had already engulfed Europe. He bears a grave responsibility before
history for the outbreak of the most destructive war of all time.

This paper relies heavily on a little-known collection of secret
Polish documents which fell into German hands when Warsaw was captured
in September 1939.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
These documents clearly establish Roosevelt's crucial role in bringing
on the Second World War.

Poland had refused to even negotiate over self-determination for the
German city of Danzig and the ethnic German minority in the so-called
Polish Corridor. Hitler felt compelled to resort to arms when he did
in response to a growing Polish campaign of terror and dispossession
against the one and a half million ethnic Germans under Polish rule.
In my view, if ever a military action was justified, it was the German
campaign against Poland in 1939.

Poland's headstrong refusal to negotiate was made possible because of
a fateful blank check guarantee of military backing from Britain-a
pledge that ultimately proved completely worthless to the hapless
Poles. Considering the lightning swiftness of the victorious German
campaign, it is difficult to realize today that the Polish government
did not at all fear war with Germany. Poland's leaders foolishly
believed that German might was only an illusion. They were convinced
that their troops would occupy Berlin itself within a few weeks and
add further German territories to an enlarged Polish state. It is also
important to keep in mind that the purely localized conflict between
Germany and Poland was only transformed into a Europe-wide
conflagration by the British and French declarations of war against
Germany.

On 9 February 1938, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, Count Jerzy
Potocki, reported to the Foreign Minister in Warsaw on the Jewish role
in making American foreign policy:

The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State
Department is becoming ever more powerful ...

... The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis
which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general
catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent.
in their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created
real chaos: they have mixed together the idea of democracy and
communism and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred
against Nazism.

This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by
every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans
are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which
wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean
of blood.

In conversations with Jewish press representatives I have repeatedly
come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is
inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of
propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation
and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is
growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans
and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be
subdued by the 'democratic world.'

Ambassador Potocki's report from Washington of 9 January 1939 dealt in
large part with President Roosevelt's annual address to Congress:
President Roosevelt acts on the assumption that the dictatorial
governments, above all Germany and Japan, only understand a policy of
force. Therefore he has decided to react to any future blows by
matching them. This has been demonstrated by the most recent measures
of the United States.

The American public is subject to an ever more alarming propaganda
which is under Jewish influence and continuously conjures up the
specter of the danger of war. Because of this the Americans have
strongly altered their views on foreign policy problems, in comparison
with last year.

Of all the documents in this collection, the most revealing is
probably the secret report by Ambassador Potocki of 12 January 1939
which dealt with the domestic situation in the United States. This
report is given here in full:

The feeling now prevailing in the United States is marked by a growing
hatred of Fascism and, above all, of Chancellor Hitler and everything
connected with Nazism. Propaganda is mostly in the hands of the Jews
who control almost 100 percent radio, film, daily and periodical
press. Although this propaganda is extremely coarse and presents
Germany as black as possible-above all religious persecution and
concentration camps are exploited-this propaganda is nevertheless
extremely effective since the public here is completely ignorant and
knows nothing of the situation in Europe...

It is interesting to note that in this extremely well-planned campaign
which is conducted above all against National Socialism, Soviet Russia
is almost completely excluded. If mentioned at all, it is only in a
friendly manner and things are presented in such a way as if Soviet
Russia were working with the bloc of democratic states. Thanks to the
clever propaganda the sympathy of the American public is completely on
the side of Red Spain.

Besides this propaganda, a war psychosis is being artificially
created. The American people are told that peace in Europe is hanging
only by a thread and that war is unavoidable. At the same time the
American people are unequivocally told that in case of a world war,
America must also take an active part in order to defend the slogans
of freedom and democracy in the world.

These groups of people who occupy the highest positions in the
American government and want to pose as representatives of 'true
Americanism' and 'defenders of democracy' are, in the last analysis,
connected by unbreakable ties with international Jewry.

For this Jewish international, which above all is concerned with the
interests of its race, to portray the President of the United States
as the 'idealist' champion on human rights was a very clever move. In
this manner they have created a dangerous hotbed for hatred and
hostility in this hemisphere and divided the world into two hostile
camps. The entire issue is worked out in a masterly manner. Roosevelt
has been given the foundation for activating American foreign policy,
and simultaneously has been procuring enormous military stocks for the
coming war, for which the Jews are striving very consciously. With
regard to domestic policy, it is very convenient to divert public
attention from anti-Semitism, which is constantly growing in the
United States, by talking about the necessity of defending religion
and individual liberty against the onslaught of Fascism.

On 16 January 1939, Polish Ambassador Potocki reported to the Warsaw
Foreign Ministry on another lengthy conversation he had with
Roosevelt's personal envoy, William Bullitt

1. The vitalizing of foreign policy under the leadership of President
Roosevelt, who severely and unambiguously condemns totalitarian
countries.

2. United States preparations for war on sea, land and air will be
carried out at an accelerated pace and will consume the colossal sum
of 1.25 billion dollars.

3. It is the decided opinion of the President that France and Britain
must put an end to any sort of compromise with the totalitarian
countries. They must not get into any discussions aiming at any kind
of territorial changes.

4. They have the moral assurance that the United States will abandon
the policy of isolation and be prepared to intervene actively on the
side of Britain and France in case of war. America is ready to place
its whole wealth of money and raw materials at their disposal.

The Polish Ambassador to Paris, Juliusz (Jules) Lukasiewicz, sent a
top secret report to the Foreign Ministry in Warsaw at the beginning
of February 1939 which outlined U.S. policy towards Europe as
explained to him by William Bullitt:

A week ago, the Ambassador of the United States, William Bullitt
returned to Paris after a three months' leave in America. Meanwhile, I
have had two conversations with him which enable me to inform you of
his views regarding the European situation and to give a survey of
Washington's policy.

The international situation is regarded by official circles as
extremely serious and in constant danger of armed conflict. Those in
authority are of the opinion that if war should break out between
Britain and France on the one hand, and Germany and Italy on the
other, and should Britain and France be defeated, the Germans would
endanger the real interests of the United States on the American
continent. For this reason, one can foresee right from the beginning
the participation of the United States in the war on the side of
France and Britain, naturally some time after the outbreak of the war.
As Ambassador Bullitt expressed it: 'Should war break out we shall
certainly not take part in it at the beginning, but we shall finish
it.'

On 7 March 1939, Ambassador Potocki sent a remarkably lucid and
perceptive report on Roosevelt's foreign policy to his government in
Warsaw. This document was first made public when leading German
newspapers published it in German translation, along with a facsimile
reproduction of the first page of the Polish original, in their
editions of 28 October 1940. The main National Socialist party
newspaper, the Voelkischer Beobachter, published the Ambassador's
report with this observation:

The document itself needs no commentary. We do not know, and it does
not concern us, whether the internal American situation as reported by
the Polish diplomat is correct in every detail. That must be decided
by the American people alone. But in the interest of historical truth
it is important for us to show that the warmongering activities of
American diplomacy, especially in Europe, are once again revealed and
proven by this document. It still remains a secret just who, and for
what motives, have driven American diplomacy to this course. In any
case, the results have been disastrous for both Europe and America.
Europe was plunged into war and America has brought upon itself the
hostility of great nations which normally have no differences with the
American people and, indeed, have not been in conflict but have lived
for generations as friends and want to remain so...

While the Polish documents alone are conclusive proof of Roosevelt's
treacherous campaign to bring about world war, it is fortunate for
posterity that a substantial body of irrefutable complementary
evidence exists which confirms the conspiracy recorded in the
dispatches to Warsaw...

On 19 September 1938 -- that is, a year before the outbreak of war in
Europe-Roosevelt called Lindsay to a very secret meeting at the White
House. At the beginning of their long conversation, according to
Lindsay's confidential dispatch to London, Roosevelt "emphasized the
necessity of absolute secrecy. Nobody must know I had seen him and he
himself would tell nobody of the interview. I gathered not even the
State Department." The two discussed some secondary matters before
Roosevelt got to the main point of the conference. "This is the very
secret part of his communication and it must not be known to anyone
that he has even breathed a suggestion." The President told the
Ambassador that if news of the conversation was ever made public, it
could mean his impeachment. And no wonder. What Roosevelt proposed was
a cynically brazen but harebrained scheme to violate the U.S.
Constitution and dupe the American people.

The President said that if Britain and France "would find themselves
forced to war" against Germany, the United States would ultimately
also join. But this would require some clever maneuvering. Britain and
France should impose a total blockade against Germany without actually
declaring war and force other states (including neutrals) to abide by
it. This would certainly provoke some kind of German military
response, but it would also free Britain and France from having to
actually declare war. For propaganda purposes, the "blockade must be
based on loftiest humanitarian grounds and on the desire to wage
hostilities with minimum of suffering and the least possible loss of
life and property, and yet bring the enemy to his knees." Roosevelt
conceded that this would involve aerial bombardment, but "bombing from
the air was not the method of hostilities which caused really great
loss of life."

The important point was to "call it defensive measures or anything
plausible but avoid actual declaration of war." That way, Roosevelt
believed he could talk the American people into supporting war against
Germany, including shipments of weapons to Britain and France, by
insisting that the United States was still technically neutral in a
non-declared conflict. "This method of conducting war by blockade
would in his [Roosevelt's] opinion meet with approval of the United
States if its humanitarian purpose were strongly emphasized," Lindsay
reported.[19]

The American Ambassador to Italy, William Phillips, admitted in his
postwar memoirs that the Roosevelt administration was already
committed to going to war on the side of Britain and France in late
1938. "On this and many other occasions," Phillips wrote, "I would
like to have told him [Count Ciano, the Italian Foreign Minister]
frankly that in the event of a European war, the United States would
undoubtedly be involved on the side of the Allies. But in view of my
official position, I could not properly make such a statement without
instructions from Washington, and these I never received."[20]

The fateful British pledge to Poland of 31 March 1939 to go to war
against Germany in case of a Polish-German conflict would not have
been made without strong pressure from the White House

In their nationally syndicated column of 14 April 1939, the usually
very well informed Washington journalists Drew Pearson and Robert S.
Allen reported that on 16 March 1939 Roosevelt had "sent a virtual
ultimatum to Chamberlain" demanding that henceforth the British
government strongly oppose Germany. According to Pearson and Allen,
who completely supported Roosevelt's move, "the President warned that
Britain could expect no more support, moral or material through the
sale of airplanes, if the Munich policy continued."[22] Chamberlain
gave in and the next day, 17 March, ended Britain's policy of
cooperation with Germany in a speech at Birmingham bitterly denouncing
Hitler. Two weeks later the British government formally pledged itself
to war in case of German-Polish hostilities.

In a confidential telegram to Washington dated 9 April 1939, Bullitt
reported from Paris on another conversation with Ambassador
Lukasiewicz. He had told the Polish envoy that although U.S. law
prohibited direct financial aid to Poland, it might be possible to
circumvent its provisions. The Roosevelt administration might be able
to supply war planes to Poland indirectly through Britain. "The Polish
Ambassador asked me if it might not be possible for Poland to obtain
financial help and aeroplanes from the United States. I replied that I
believed the Johnson Act would forbid any loans from the United States
to Poland but added that it might be possible for England to purchase
planes for cash in the United States and turn them over to
Poland."[24]

On 25 April 1939, four months before the outbreak of war, Bullitt
called American newspaper columnist Karl von Wiegand, chief European
correspondent of the International News Service, to the U.S. embassy
in Paris and told him: "War in Europe has been decided upon. Poland
has the assurance of the support of Britain and France, and will yield
to no demands from Germany. America will be in the war soon after
Britain and France enter it."[25]

In a lengthy secret conversation at Hyde Park on 28 May 1939,
Roosevelt assured the former President of Czechoslovakia, Dr. Edvard
Benes, that America would actively intervene on the side of Britain
and France in the anticipated European war.[26]

In June 1939, Roosevelt secretly proposed to the British that the
United States should establish "a patrol over the waters of the
Western Atlantic with a view to denying them to the German Navy in the
event of war." The British Foreign Office record of this offer noted
that "although the proposal was vague and woolly and open to certain
objections, we assented informally as the patrol was to be operated in
our interests."[27]

Many years after the war, Georges Bonnet, the French Foreign Minister
in 1939, confirmed Bullitt's role as Roosevelt's deputy in pushing his
country into war. In a letter to Hamilton Fish dated 26 March 1971,
Bonnet wrote: "One thing is certain is that Bullitt in 1939 did
everything he could to make France enter the war."[28] An important
confirmation of the crucial role of Roosevelt and the Jews in pushing
Britain into war comes from the diary of James V. Forrestal, the first
U.S. Secretary of Defense. In his entry for 27 December 1945, he
wrote:

Played golf today with [former Ambassador] Joe Kennedy. I asked him
about his conversations with Roosevelt and [British Prime Minister]
Neville Chamberlain from 1938 on. He said Chamberlain's position in
1938 was that England had nothing with which to fight and that she
could not risk going to war with Hitler. Kennedy's view: That Hitler
would have fought Russia without any later conflict with England if it
had not been for [William] Bullitt's urging on Roosevelt in the summer
of 1939 that the Germans must be faced down about Poland; neither the
French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had
not been for the constant needling from Washington. Bullitt, he said,
kept telling Roosevelt that the Germans wouldn't fight; Kennedy that
they would, and that they would overrun Europe. Chamberlain, he says,
stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the
war. In his telephone conversations with Roosevelt in the summer of
1939, the President kept telling him to put some iron up Chamberlain's
backside.[29]

"In the West," the Ambassador told Szembek, "there are all kinds of
elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the
arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because
they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation
that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs.
They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since
everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that
as well."[30]

On 24 August 1939, just a week before the outbreak of hostilities,
Chamberlain's closest advisor, Sir Horace Wilson, went to Ambassador
Kennedy with an urgent appeal from the British Prime Minister for
President Roosevelt. Regretting that Britain had unequivocally
obligated itself in March to Poland in case of war, Chamberlain now
turned in despair to Roosevelt as a last hope for peace. He wanted the
American President to "put pressure on the Poles" to change course at
this late hour and open negotiations with Germany. By telephone
Kennedy told the State Department that the British "felt that they
could not, given their obligations, do anything of this sort but that
we could." Presented with this extraordinary opportunity to possibly
save the peace of Europe, Roosevelt rejected Chamberlain's desperate
plea out of hand. At that, Kennedy reported, the Prime Minister lost
all hope. "The futility of it all," Chamberlain had told Kennedy, "is
the thing that is frightful. After all, we cannot save the Poles. We
can merely carry on a war of revenge that will mean the destruction of
all Europe."[31]

But Roosevelt rejected out of hand this chance to save the peace of
Europe. To a close political crony, he called Kennedy's plea "the
silliest message to me that I have ever received." He complained to
Henry Morgenthau that his London Ambassador was nothing but a pain in
the neck: "Joe has been an appeaser and will always be an appeaser ...
If Germany and Italy made a good peace offer tomorrow, Joe would start
working on the King and his friend the Queen and from there on down to
get everybody to accept it."[33]

Infuriated at Kennedy's stubborn efforts to restore peace in Europe or
at least limit the conflict that had broken out, Roosevelt instructed
his Ambassador with a "personal" and "strictly confidential" telegram
on 11 September 1939 that any American peace effort was totally out of
the question. The Roosevelt government, it declared, "sees no
opportunity nor occasion for any peace move to be initiated by the
President of the United States. The people [sic] of the United States
would not support any move for peace initiated by this Government that
would consolidate or make possible a survival of a regime of force and
aggression."[34]

In the months before armed conflict broke out in Europe, perhaps the
most vigorous and prophetic American voice of warning against
President Roosevelt's campaign to incite war was that of Hamilton
Fish, a leading Republican congressman from New York. In a series of
hard-hitting radio speeches, Fish rallied considerable public opinion
against Roosevelt's deceptive war policy. Here are only a few excerpts
from some of those addresses.[35]

On 6 January 1939, Fish told a nationwide radio audience:
The inflammatory and provocative message of the President to Congress
and the world [given two days before] has unnecessarily alarmed the
American people and created, together with a barrage of propaganda
emanating from high New Deal officials, a war hysteria, dangerous to
the peace of America and the world. The only logical conclusion to
such speeches is another war fought overseas by American soldiers.

All the totalitarian nations referred to by President Roosevelt ...
haven't the faintest thought of making war on us or invading Latin
America.
I do not propose to mince words on such an issue, affecting the life,
liberty and happiness of our people. The time has come to call a halt
to the warmongers of the New Deal, backed by war profiteers,
Communists, and hysterical internationalists, who want us to
quarantine the world with American blood and money.
He [Roosevelt] evidently desires to whip up a frenzy of hate and war
psychosis as a red herring to take the minds of our people off their
own unsolved domestic problems. He visualizes hobgoblins and creates
in the public mind a fear of foreign invasions that exists only in his
own imagination.

On 5 March, Fish spoke to the country over the Columbia radio network:
The people of France and Great Britain want peace but our warmongers
are constantly inciting them to disregard the Munich Pact and resort
to the arbitrament of arms. If only we would stop meddling in foreign
lands the old nations of Europe would compose their own quarrels by
arbitration and the processes of peace, but apparently we won't let
them.

Fish addressed the listeners of the National Broadcasting Company
network on 5 April with these words:
The youth of America are again being prepared for another blood bath
in Europe in order to make the world safe for democracy.
If Hitler and the Nazi government regain Memel or Danzig, taken away
from Germany by the Versailles Treaty, and where the population is 90
percent German, why is it necessary to issue threats and denunciations
and incite our people to war? I would not sacrifice the life of one
American soldier for a half dozen Memels or Danzigs. We repudiated the
Versailles Treaty because it was based on greed and hatred, and as
long as its inequalities and injustices exist there are bound to be
wars of liberation.

The sooner certain provisions of the Versailles Treaty are scrapped
the better for the peace of the world.

I believe that if the areas that are distinctly German in population
are restored to Germany, except Alsace-Lorraine and the Tyrol, there
will be no war in western Europe. There may be a war between the Nazis
and the Communists, but if there is that is not our war or that of
Great Britain or France or any of the democracies.

New Deal spokesmen have stirred up war hysteria into a veritable
frenzy. The New Deal propaganda machine is working overtime to prepare
the minds of our people for war, who are already suffering from a bad
case of war jitters.

President Roosevelt is the number one warmonger in America, and is
largely responsible for the fear that pervades the Nation which has
given the stock market and the American people a bad case of the
jitters.

I accuse the administration of instigating war propaganda and hysteria
to cover up the failure and collapse of the New Deal policies, with 12
million unemployed and business confidence destroyed.

I believe we have far more to fear from our enemies from within than
we have from without. All the Communists are united in urging us to go
to war against Germany and Japan for the benefit of Soviet Russia.

Great Britain still expects every American to do her duty, by
preserving the British Empire and her colonies. The war profiteers,
munitions makers and international bankers are all set up for our
participation in a new world war.

On 21 April, Fish again spoke to the country over nationwide radio:

It is the duty of all those Americans who desire to keep out of
foreign entanglements and the rotten mess and war madness of Europe
and Asia to openly expose the war hysteria and propaganda that is
impelling us to armed conflict.

What we need in America is a stop war crusade, before we are forced
into a foreign war by internationalists and interventionists at
Washington, who seem to be more interested in solving world problems
rather than our own.

In his radio address of 26 May, Fish stated:
He [Roosevelt] should remember that the Congress has the sole power to
declare war and formulate the foreign policies of the United States.
The President has no such constitutional power. He is merely the
official organ to carry out the policies determined by the Congress.

Without knowing even who the combatants will be, we are informed
almost daily by the internationalists and interventionists in America
that we must participate in the next world war.

On 8 July 1939, Fish declared over the National Broadcasting Company
radio network:
If we must go to war, let it be in defense of America, but not in
defense of the munitions makers, war profiteers, Communists, to cover
up the failures of the New Deal, or to provide an alibi for a third
term.
It is well for all nations to know that we do not propose to go to war
over Danzig, power politics, foreign colonies, or the imperialistic
wars of Europe or anywhere in the world.

President Roosevelt could have done little to incite war in Europe
without help from powerful allies. Behind him stood the self-serving
international financial and Jewish interests bent on the destruction
of Germany. The principal organization which drummed up public support
for U.S. involvement in the European war prior to the Pearl Harbor
attack was the cleverly named "Committee to Defend America by Aiding
the Allies." President Roosevelt himself initiated its founding, and
top administration officials consulted frequently with Committee
leaders.[36]

Although headed for a time by an elderly small-town Kansas newspaper
publisher, William Allen White, the Committee was actually organized
by powerful financial interests which stood to profit tremendously
from loans to embattled Britain and from shrewd investments in giant
war industries in the United States.
At the end of 1940, West Virginia Senator Rush D. Holt issued a
detailed examination of the Committee which exposed the base interests
behind the idealistic-sounding slogans:

The Committee has powerful connections with banks, insurance
companies, financial investing firms, and industrial concerns. These
in turn exert influence on college presidents and professors, as well
as on newspapers, radio and other means of communication. One of the
powerful influences used by the group is the '400' and social set. The
story is a sordid picture of betrayal of public interest.
The powerful J.P. Morgan interest with its holdings in the British
Empire helped plan the organization and donated its first expense
money.

Some of the important figures active in the Committee were revealed by
Holt: Frederic R. Coudert, a paid war propagandist for the British
government in the U.S. during the First World War; Robert S. Allen of
the Pearson and Allen syndicated column; Henry R. Luce, the
influential publisher of Time, Life, and Fortune magazines; Fiorella
LaGuardia, the fiery half-Jewish Mayor of Now York City; Herbert
Lehman, the Jewish Governor of New York with important financial
holdings in war industries; and Frank Altschul, an officer in the
Jewish investment firm of Lazard Freres with extensive holdings in
munitions and military supply companies.

If the Committee succeeded in getting the U.S. into war, Holt warned,
"American boys will spill their blood for profiteers, politicians and
'paytriots.' If war comes, on the hands of the sponsors of the White
Committee will be blood-the blood of Americans killed in a needless
war."[37]

In March 1941 a list of most of the Committee's financial backers was
made public. It revealed the nature of the forces eager to bring
America into the European war. Powerful international banking
interests were well represented. J.P. Morgan, John W. Morgan, Thomas
W. Lamont and others of the great Morgan banking house were listed.
Other important names from the New York financial world included Mr.
and Mrs. Paul Mellon, Felix M. and James F. Warburg, and J. Malcolm
Forbes. Chicago department store owner and publisher Marshall Field
was a contributor, as was William Averill Harriman, the railroad and
investment millionaire who later served as Roosevelt's ambassador in
Moscow.

Of course, Jewish names made up a substantial portion of the long
list. Hollywood film czar Samuel Goldwyn of Goldwyn Studios was there,
along with David Dubinsky, the head of the International Ladies
Garment Workers Union. The William S. Paley Foundation, which had been
set up by the head of the giant Columbia Broadcasting System,
contributed to the Committee. The name of Mrs. Herbert H. Lehman, wife
of the New York Governor, was also on the list.[38]

Without an understanding of his intimate ties to organized Jewry,
Roosevelt's policies make little sense. As Jewish historian Lucy
Dawidowicz noted: "Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle
more Jews than any other President before or after him. Felix
Frankfurter, Bernard M. Baruch and Henry Morgenthau were his close
advisers. Benjamin V. Cohen, Samuel Rosenman and David K. Niles were
his friends and trusted aides."[39] This is perhaps not so remarkable
in light of Roosevelt's reportedly one-eighth Jewish ancestry.[40]

In his diary entry of 1 May 1941, Charles A. Lindbergh, the American
aviator hero and peace leader, nailed the coalition that was pushing
the United States into war:

The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed to
it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and
[is] hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are also the
'intellectuals,' and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are
allowed free rein, the international financial interests, and many
others.[41]

Joseph Kennedy shared Lindbergh's apprehensions about Jewish power.
Before the outbreak of war he privately expressed concerns about "the
Jews who dominate our press" and world Jewry in general, which he
considered a threat to peace and prosperity. Shortly after the
beginning of hostilities, Kennedy lamented "the growing Jewish
influence in the press and in Washington demanding continuance of the
war "[42]

Roosevelt's efforts to get Poland, Britain and France into war against
Germany succeeded all too well. The result was untold death and misery
and destruction. When the fighting began, as Roosevelt had intended
and planned, the Polish and French leaders expected the American
president to at least make good on his assurances of backing in case
of war. But Roosevelt had not reckoned on the depth of peace sentiment
of the vast majority of Americans. So, in addition to deceiving his
own people, Roosevelt also let down those in Europe to whom he had
promised support.

Seldom in American history were the people as united in their views as
they were in late 1939 about staying out of war in Europe. When
hostilities began in September 1939, the Gallup poll showed 94 percent
of the American people against involvement in war. That figure rose to
96.5 percent in December before it began to decline slowly to about 80
percent in the Fall of 1941. (Today, there is hardly an issue that
even 60 or 70 percent of the people agree upon.)[43]

Roosevelt was, of course, quite aware of the intensity of popular
feeling on this issue. That is why he lied repeatedly to the American
people about his love of peace and his determination to keep the U.S.
out of war, while simultaneously doing everything in his power to
plunge Europe and America into war.

In a major 1940 re-election campaign speech, Roosevelt responded to
the growing fears of millions of Americans who suspected that their
President had secretly pledged United States support to Britain in its
war against Germany. These well-founded suspicions were based in part
on the publication in March of the captured Polish documents. The
speech of 23 October 1940 was broadcast from Philadelphia to the
nation on network radio. In the most emphatic language possible,
Roosevelt categorically denied that he had
pledged in some way the participation of the United States in some
foreign war. I give to you and to the people of this country this most
solemn assurance: There is no secret Treaty, no secret understanding
in any shape or form, direct or indirect, with any Government or any
other nation in any part of the world, to involve this nation in any
war or for any other purpose.[44]

We now know, of course, that this pious declaration was just another
one of Roosevelt's many brazen, bald-faced lies to the American
people.

Roosevelt's policies were more than just dishonest-they were criminal.
The Constitution of the United States grants authority only to the
Congress to make war and peace. And Congress had passed several major
laws to specifically insure U.S. neutrality in case of war in Europe.
Roosevelt continually violated his oath as President to uphold the
Constitution. If his secret policies had been known, the public demand
for his impeachment would very probably have been unstoppable.

The Watergate episode has made many Americans deeply conscious of the
fact that their presidents can act criminally. That affair forced
Richard Nixon to resign his presidency, and he is still widely
regarded as a criminal. No schools are named after him and his name
will never receive the respect that normally goes to every American
president. But Nixon's crimes pale into insignificance when compared
to those of Franklin Roosevelt. What were Nixon's lies compared to
those of Roosevelt? What is a burglary cover-up compared to an illegal
and secret campaign to bring about a major war?

Those who defend Roosevelt's record argue that he lied to the American
people for their own good-that he broke the law for lofty principles.
His deceit is considered permissible because the cause was noble,
while similar deception by presidents Johnson and Nixon, to name two,
is not. This is, of course, a hypocritical double standard. And the
argument doesn't speak very well for the democratic system. It implies
that the people are too dumb to understand their own best interests.
It further suggests that the best form of government is a kind of
benevolent liberal-democratic dictatorship.

Roosevelt's hatred for Hitler was deep, vehement, passionate-almost
personal. This was due in no small part to an abiding envy and
jealousy rooted in the great contrast between the two men, not only in
their personal characters but also in their records as national
leaders.

Superficially, the public fives of Roosevelt and Hitler were
astonishingly similar. Both assumed the leadership of their respective
countries at the beginning of 1933. They both faced the enormous
challenge of mass unemployment during a catastrophic worldwide
economic depression. Each became a powerful leader in a vast military
alliance during the most destructive war in history. Both men died
while still in office within a few weeks of each other in April 1945,
just before the end of the Second World War in Europe. But the
enormous contrasts in the lives of these two men are even more
remarkable.

Roosevelt was born into one of the wealthiest families in America. His
was a life utterly free of material worry. He took part in the First
World War from an office in Washington as UnderSecretary of the Navy.
Hitler, on the other hand, was born into a modest provinicial family.
As a young man he worked as an impoverished manual laborer. He served
in the First World War as a front line soldier in the hell of the
Western battleground. He was wounded many times and decorated for
bravery.

In spite of his charming manner and soothing rhetoric, Roosevelt
proved unable to master the great challenges facing America. Even
after four years of his presidency, millions remained unemployed,
undernourished and poorly housed in a vast land richly endowed with
all the resources for incomparable prosperity. The New Deal was
plagued with bitter strikes and bloody clashes between labor and
capital. Roosevelt did nothing to solve the country's deep, festering
racial problems which erupted repeatedly in riots and armed conflict.
The story was very different in Germany. Hitler rallied his people
behind a radical program that transformed Germany within a few years
from an economically ruined land on the edge of civil war into
Europe's powerhouse. Germany underwent a social, cultural and economic
rebirth without parallel in history. The contrast between the
personalities of Roosevelt and Hitler was simultaneously a contrast
between two diametrically different social-political systems and
ideologies.

And yet, it would be incorrect to characterize Roosevelt as merely a
cynical politician and front man for powerful alien interests.
Certainly he did not regard himself as an evil man. He sincerely
believed that he was doing the right and noble thing in pressuring
Britain and France into war against Germany. Like Wilson before him,
and others since, Roosevelt felt himself uniquely qualified and called
upon by destiny to reshape the world according to his vision of an
egalitarian, universalist democracy. He was convinced, as so many
American leaders have been, that the world could be saved from itself
by remodeling it after the United States.

Presidents like Wilson and Roosevelt view the world not as a complex
of different nations, races and cultures which must mutually respect
each others' separate collective identities in order to live together
in peace, but rather according to a selfrighteous missionary
perspective that divides the globe into morally good and evil
countries. In that scheme of things, America is the providentially
permanent leader of the forces of righteousness. Luckily, this view
just happens to correspond to the economic and political interests of
those who wield power in the United States.

President Roosevelt's War
In April 1941, Senator Gerald Nye of North Dakota prophetically
predicted that one day the Second World War would be remembered as
Roosevelt's war. "If we are ever involved in this war, it will be
called by future historians by only one title, 'the President's War,'
because every step of his since his Chicago quarantine speech [of 5
October 1937] has been toward war.[45]

The great American historian, Harry Elmer Barnes, believed that war
could probably have been prevented in 1939 if it had not been for
Roosevelt's meddling. "Indeed, there is fairly conclusive evidence
that, but for Mr. Roosevelt's pressure on Britain, France and Poland,
and his commitments to them before September 1939, especially to
Britain, and the irresponsible antics of his agent provocateur,
William C. Bullitt, there would probably have been no world war in
1939, or, perhaps, for many years thereafter."[46] In Revisionism: A
Key to Peace, Barnes wrote:

President Roosevelt had a major responsibility, both direct and
indirect, for the outbreak of war in Europe. He began to exert
pressure on France to stand up to Hitler as early as the German
reoccupation of the Rhineland in March 1936, months before he was
making his strongly isolationist speeches in the campaign of 1936.
This pressure on France, and also England, continued right down to the
coming of the war in September 1939. It gained volume and momentum
after the quarantine speech of October 1937. As the crisis approached
between Munich and the outbreak of war, Roosevelt pressed the Poles to
stand firm against any demands by Germany, and urged the English and
French to back up the Poles unflinchingly.
There is grave doubt that England would have gone to war in September
1939 had it not been for Roosevelt's encouragement and his assurances
that, in the event of war, the United States would enter on the side
of Britain just as soon as he could swing American public opinion
around to support intervention.

Roosevelt had abandoned all semblance of neutrality, even before war
broke out in 1939, and moved as speedily as was safe and feasible in
the face of anti-interventionist American public opinion to involve
this country in the European conflict.[47]

One of the most perceptive verdicts on Franklin Roosevelt's place in
history came from the pen of the great Swedish explorer and author,
Sven Hedin. During the war he wrote:

The question of the way it came to a new world war is not only to be
explained because of the foundation laid by the peace treaties of
1919, or in the suppression of Germany and her allies after the First
World War, or in the continuation of the ancient policies of Great
Britain and France. The decisive push came from the other side of the
Atlantic Ocean.

Roosevelt speaks of democracy and destroys it incessantly. He slanders
as undemocratic and un-American those who admonish him in the name of
peace and the preservation of the American way of life. He has made
democracy into a caricature rather than a model. He talks about
freedom of speech and silences those who don't hold his opinion.
He talks about freedom of religion and makes an alliance with
Bolshevism.

He talks about freedom from want, but cannot provide ten million of
his own people with work, bread or shelter. He talks about freedom
from the fear of war while working for war, not only for his own
people but for the world, by inciting his country against the Axis
powers when it might have united with them, and he thereby drove
millions to their deaths.
This war will go down in history as the war of President
Roosevelt.[48]

Officially orchestrated praise for Roosevelt as a great man of peace
cannot conceal forever his crucial role in pushing Europe into war in
1939.


It is now more than forty years since the events described here took
place. For many they are an irrelevant part of a best-forgotten past.
But the story of how Franklin Roosevelt engineered war in Europe is
very pertinent-particularly for Americans today. The lessons of the
past have never been more important than in this nuclear age. For
unless at least an aware minority understands how and why wars are
made, we will remain powerless to restrain the warmongers of our own
era.


Notes
1. See, for example: Charles A. Beard, President Roosevelt and
the Coming of the War 1941 (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1948);
William Henry Chamberlin, America's Second Crusade (Chicago: Regnery,
1952, 1962); Benjamin Colby, 'Twas a Famous Victory (New Rochelle,
N.Y.: Arlington House, 1979); Frederic R. Sanborn, Design for War (New
York: Devin-Adair, 1951); William Stevenson, A Man Called Intrepid
(New York: Ballantine Books, 1980); Charles C. Tansill, Back Door to
War (Chicago: Regnery, 1952); John Toland, Infamy: Pearl Harbor and
Its Aftermath (New York: Doubleday, 1982).
2. Saul Friedlander, Prelude to Downfall: Hitler and the United
States 1939-1941 (New York: Knopf, 1967), pp. 73-77; U.S., Congress,
House, Special Committee on Investigation of Un-American Activities in
the United States, 1940, Appendix, Part II, pp. 1054-1059.
3. Friedlander, pp. 75-76.
4. New York Times, 30 March 1940, p. 1.
5. Ibid., p. 4, and 31 March 1940, p. 1.
6. New York Times, 30 March 1940, p. 1. Baltimore Sun, 30 March
1940, p. 1.
7. A French-language edition was published in 1944 under the
title Comment Roosevelt est Entre en Guerre.
8. Tansill, "The United States and the Road to War in Europe," in
Harry Elmer Barnes (ed.), Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace (Caldwell,
Idaho: Caxton, 1953; reprint eds., New York: Greenwood, 1969 and
Torrance, Calif.: Institute for Historical Review [supplemented],
1982), p. 184 (note 292). Tansill also quoted from several of the
documents in his Back Door to War, pp. 450-51.
9. Harry Elmer Barnes, The Court Historians Versus Revisionism
(N.p.: privately printed, 1952), p. 10. This booklet is reprinted in
Barnes, Selected Revisionist Pamphlets (New York: Arno Press & The New
York Times, 1972), and in Barnes, The Barnes Trilogy (Torrance,
Calif.: Institute for Historical Review, 1979).
10. Chamberlin, p. 60.
11. Edward Raczynski, In Allied London (London: Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, 1963), p. 51.
12. Orville H. Bullitt (ad.), For the President: Personal and
Secret (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1972), p. x1v [biographical
foreword]. See also Time, 26 October 1936, p. 24.
13. Current Biography 1940, ed. Maxine Block (New York: H.W.
Wilson, 1940), p. 122 ff.
14. Gisleher Wirsing, Der masslose Kontinent: Roosevelts Kampf um
die Weltherrschaft (Jena: E. Diederichs, 1942), p. 224.
15. Bullitt obituary in New York Times, 16 February 1967, p. 44.
16. Jack Alexander, "He Rose From the Rich," Saturday Evening
Post, 11 March 1939, p. 6. (Also see continuation in issue of 18 March
1939.) Bullitt's public views on the European scene and what should be
America's attitude toward it can be found in his Report to the
American People (Boston: Houghton Mifflin [Cambridge: Riverside
Press], 1940), the text of a speech he delivered, with the President's
blessing, under the auspices of the American Philosophical Society in
Independence Hall in Philadelphia shortly after the fall of France.
For sheer, hyperventilated stridency and emotionalist hysterics, this
anti-German polemic could hardly be topped, even given the similar
propensities of many other interventionists in government and the
press in those days.
17. Michael R. Beschloss, Kennedy and Roosevelt (New York: Norton,
1980), pp. 203-04.
18. Robert Dallek, Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign
Policy 1932-1945 (New York: Oxford University Press, 1979), p. 31. See
also pp. 164-65.
19. Dispatch No. 349 of 20 September 1938 by Sir. R. Lindsay,
Documents on British Foreign Policy (ed. Ernest L. Woodward), Third
series, Vol. VII (London, 1954), pp. 627-29. See also: Joseph P. Lash,
Roosevelt and Churchill 1939-1941 (New York: Norton, 1976), pp. 25-27;
Dallek, pp. 164-65; Arnold A. Offner, America and the Ori-, gins of
World War II (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1971), p. 61.
20. William Phillips, Ventures in Diplomacy (North Beverly, Mass.:
privately published, 1952), pp. 220-21.
21. Carl Burckhardt, Meine Danziger Mission 1937-1939 (Munich:
Callwey, 1960), p. 225.
22. Drew Pearson and Robert S. Allen, "Washington Daily
Merry-Go-Round," Washington Times-Herald, 14 April 1939, p. 16. A
facsimile reprint of this column appears in Conrad Grieb (ed.),
American Manifest Destiny and The Holocausts (New York: Examiner
Books, 1979), pp. 132-33. See also: Wirsing, pp. 238-41.
23. Jay P. Moffat, The Moffat Papers 1919-1943 (Cambridge: Harvard
University Press, 1956), p. 232.
24. U.S., Department of State, Foreign Relations of the United
States (Diplomatic Papers), 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington: 1956),
p. 122.
25. "Von Wiegand Says-," Chicago Herald-American, 8 October 1944,
p. 2.
26. Edvard Benes, Memoirs of Dr. Eduard Benes (London: George
Allen & Unwin, 1954), pp. 79-80.
27. Lash, p. 64.
28. Hamilton Fish, FDR: The Other Side of the Coin (Now York:
Vantage, 1976; Torrance, Calif.: Institute for Historical Review,
1980), p. 62.
29. James V. Forrestal (ads. Walter Millis and E.S. Duffield), The
Forrestal Diaries (New York: Viking, 1951), pp. 121-22. I have been
privately informed by a colleague who has examined the original
manuscript of the Forrestal diaries that many very critical references
to the Jews were deleted from the published version.
30. Jan Szembek, Journal 1933-1939 (Paris: Plan, 1952), pp.
475-76.
31. David E. Koskoff, Joseph P. Kennedy: A Life and Times
(Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, 1974), p. 207; Moffat, p. 253;
A.J.P. Taylor, The Origins of the Second World War (London: Hamish
Hamilton, 1961; 2nd ed. Greenwich, Conn.: Fawcett Premier [paperback],
1965), p. 262; U.S., Department of State, Foreign Relations of the
United States, 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington: 1956), p. 355.
32. Dallek, p. 164.
33. Beschloss, pp. 190-91; Lash, p. 75; Koskoff, pp. 212-13.
34. Hull to Kennedy (No. 905), U.S., Department of State, Foreign
Relations of the United States, 1939, General, Vol. I (Washington:
1956), p. 424.
35. The radio addresses of Hamilton Fish quoted here were
published in the Congressional Record Appendix (Washington) as
follows: (6 January 1939) Vol. 84, Part 11, pp. 52-53; (5 March 1939)
same, pp. 846-47; (5 April 1939) Vol. 84, Part 12, pp. 1342-43; (21
April 1939) same, pp. 1642-43; (26 May 1939) Vol. 84, Part 13, pp.
2288-89; (8 July 1939) same, pp. 3127-28.
36. Wayne S. Cole, Charles A. Lindbergh and the Battle Against
American Intervention in World War II (New York: Harcourt Brace
Jovanovich, 1974), pp. 128, 136-39.
37. Congressional Record Appendix (Washington: 1941), (30 December
1940) Vol. 86, Part 18, pp. 7019-25. See also: Appendix, Vol. 86, Part
17, pp. 5808-14.
38. New York Times, 11 March 1941, p. 10.
39. Lucy Dawidowicz, "American Jews and the Holocaust," The New
York Times Magazine, 18 April 1982, p. 102.
40. "FDR 'had a Jewish great-grandmother'" Jewish Chronicle
(London), 5 February 1982, p. 3.
41. Charles A. Lindbergh, The Wartime Journals of Charles A.
Lindbergh (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1970), p. 481.
42. Koskoff, pp. 282, 212. The role of the American press in
fomenting hatred against Germany between 1933 and 1939 is a subject
that deserves much more detailed treatment. Charles Tansill provides
some useful information on this in Back Door to War. The essay by
Professor Hans A. Muenster, "Die Kriegsschuld der Presse der USA" in
Kriegsschuld und Presse, published in 1944 by the German
Reichsdozentenfuehrung, is worth consulting.
43. An excellent essay relating and contrasting American public
opinion measurements to Roosevelt's foreign policy moves in 1939-41 is
Harry Elmer Barnes, Was Roosevelt Pushed Into War By Popular Demand in
1941? (N.p.: privately printed, 1951). It is reprinted in Barnes,
Selected Revisionist Pamphlets.
44. Lash, p. 240.
45. New York Times, 27 April 1941, p. 19.
46. Harry Elmer Barnes, The Struggle Against the Historical
Blackout, 2nd ed. (N.p.: privately published, ca. 1948), p. 12. See
also the 9th, final revised and enlarged edition (N.p.: privately
published, ca. 1954), p. 34; this booklet is reprinted in Barnes,
Selected Revisionist Pamphlets.
47. Harry Elmer Barnes, "Revisionism: A Key to Peace," Rampart
Journal of Individualist Thought Vol. II, No. 1 (Spring 1966), pp.
29-30. This article was republished in Barnes, Revisionism: A Key to
Peace and Other Essays (San Francisco: Cato Institute [Cato Paper No.
12], 1980).
48. Sven Hedin, Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente (Leipzig: F.A.
Brockhaus, 1943), p. 54.

Bibliography
Listed here are the published editions of the Polish documents, the
most important sources touching on the questions of their authenticity
and content, and essential recent sources on what President Roosevelt
was really-as opposed to publicly-doing and thinking during the
prelude to war. Full citations for all references in the article will
be found in the notes.
Beschloss, Michael R. Kennedy and Roosevelt. New York: Norton, 1980.
Bullitt, Orville H. (ed.). For the President: Personal and Secret.
[Correspondence between Franklin D. Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt.]
Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1972.
Germany. Foreign Office Archive Commission. Roosevelts Weg in den
Krieg: Geheimdokumente zur Kriegspolitik des Praesidenten der
Vereinigten Staaten. Berlin: Deutscher Verlag, 1943.
Germany. Foreign Office. The German White Paper. [White Book No. 3.]
New York: Howell, Soskin and Co., 1940.
Germany. Foreign Office. Polnische Dokumente zur Vorgeschichte des
Kriegs. [White Book No. 3.] Berlin: F. Eher, 1940.
Koskoff, David E. Joseph P. Kennedy: A Life and Times. Englewood
Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, 1974.
Lukasiewicz, Juliusz (Waclaw Jedrzejewicz, ed.). Diplomat in Paris
1936-1939. New York: Columbia University Press, 1970.
Wirsing, Giselher. Der masslose Kontinent: Roosevelts Kampf um die
Weltherrschaft. Jena: E. Diederichs, 1942.


> they call upon their
>nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
>destruction and terror.

Here is what happens when you lose against subhuman allies:

Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD (Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin.
The Commissar told me in good German language that the camp was
dissolved and that we, as a unit with uniforms (RAD - German Labour
Service, not military uniforms), would be transported to a collection
camp. Since I, as a Brazilian citizen, belong to an allied nation, he
asked me to take over as a leader of the transport that went to
Neustettin, into the yard of the former iron factory. We were about
500 girls (Maidens of the Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour
Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed me to make no further contact with other
women, because they were members of an illegal army. On my response
that this what not true, he cut me off with the remark that I would be
shot immediately, if I would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.

The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.

Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.

Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.

The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.

The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the flesh literally from her ribs until the white
bone appeared.

Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of
their predecessors, they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were,
they tried to defend themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more
cruel every time. One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk
over the whole length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated
body and tried to set fire to it. Another was shot in the genitals by
a Russia, before they cut off her breasts.

A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time led to the floor being covered
with blood. A blood rage seized the Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.

Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.

In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.

In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.

That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection until the moment I awoke in a military hospital.
German troops had recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated
us. As I learned later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during
the first three days of the first round of Russian occupation."

>
>
>Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
>by Joseph Goebbels
>
>Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
>and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
>resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
>British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
>their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
>Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
>to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
>parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
>but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
>would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
>a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
>behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
>dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
>and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
>Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
>between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
>clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
>Siberia?
>
>
>"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.
>
>Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family

German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:

> and begged


>to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

The Jews control your media and your mind. Figuratively speaking, you
have your head up a Jews aft end.

>
>"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

Topaz

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Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the

Tim Miller

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Mike Gordon

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Topaz wrote:

> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

Uh...Hitler was Jewish.
Eva Anna Paula Braun, died Eva Anna Paula Hitler[1] (6 February 1912 �
30 April 1945) was the longtime companion and, for a brief time, wife of
Adolf Hitler. Braun met Hitler in Munich when she was 17 years old while
working as an assistant and model for his personal photographer and
began seeing him often about two years later. She attempted suicide
twice during their early relationship."

Third time was the charm!

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>>mentally.
>
>
> Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

Goebbels was a liar. I already proved it.

In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and

mentally. Having started what they cannot stop, they call upon their


nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
destruction and terror.

Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
by Joseph Goebbels

Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
Siberia?


"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.

Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family and begged


to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

The regime insisted that it was not the rule of one social class above
all others, and by granting everyone opportunities to rise,

[Here is an example of the kind of "rise" he's talking about
http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/4nazi-execution.gif]

it in fact
demonstrated class neutrality-These measures did indeed break through
the old, petrified social structures. They tangibly improved the
material condition of much of the population. (J. Fest, Hitler, pp.
434-435.)

[Here is an example of the "improvement" he's talking about
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/trs/images/hamburg-bombing3b33646r.jpg]

Topaz

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<end quote>


Here are some quotes from the German pamphlet "How they Lie" from
1940. The pamphlet has many pictures but the words alone are
interesting enough:

"For example, what would you say if a colleague of yours, whom you
regarded as a rival and who disliked you, were to spread the rumor
that your household is in disorder, that you murder small children and
rape defenseless women? Rest assured that in our country such a person
would soon be behind bars.

But the international politicians and journalists who slander entire
peoples in a shameless manner not only run around freely, they
impudently put on airs as the saviors of human culture. No lie is too
crude for them, no slander too vulgar-they understand their craft.
Even in World War I they knew how to incite hate with the help of
atrocity propaganda. We all recall those daily lies of the "German
barbarian" who, "like a wild beast rages over the earth and destroys
everything in hate and the fury of annihilation, who tortures children
and delights in the tears of mothers," as a foreign paper once wrote.

In war, man stands against man. Each serves the Fatherland in his own
way, and no soldier will deny the knightly convictions of a noble
opponent. Today, however, a cowardly gang of professional agitators
daily invents new lies and pictures from the safety of their desks.

How was the German soldier once depicted by enemy atrocity propaganda?
We all know them, for we had fathers, brothers, sons, and men out
there. For instance, on 20 March 1915, the newspaper "Le Rire Rouge"
published the following picture of the good German soldier:

A bloodthirsty murderer of women and children, a robber and plunderer,
who nourishes himself with sausages made from human flesh-that was how
it saw the brave and loyal German soldier.

Each of us knows what a crude and baseless lie this is. Every decent
person in the world should have known this. And yet: "Some of it will
always be believed, the stupid and gullible will never see through it
all" - so hope the political liars and slanderers.
We know what to think about this flood of slander flowing over the
German people. We heard the same things between 1914 and 1918. Then as
now, they are attempting to drive a wedge between leaders and people.
The goal of this propaganda is always the annihilation of Germany.

We are also familiar with the old lie about the desecration of
churches and shrines, which are once again in fashion with our
enemies.

This is the undamaged cathedral of Tschenstochau.
The picture of the Polish shrine of the Black Madonna, with the German
soldiers in the foreground, was taken after its alleged destruction by
German bombers.
While the lying and yellow press of the entire world and the enemy
transmitters were inventing hypocritical stories about the presumed
destruction of the holy shrine, the Prior of Tschenstochau wrote the
above letter to the German military authorities that clearly testifies
that the monastery and holy shrine were untouched.

Thus the lie regarding supposed German attack could be immediately
exposed. The English Ministry of Advertising has had nothing to say
since.
In reality, these lies are ancient. Our enemies always babble about
violated sanctuaries, persecuted priests, murdered children and
tortured women in order to prejudice the world against Germany and to
arouse the impression that the world must be defended against "the
barbarians who are threatening human culture."

The picture above is taken from a leafet dated 19 August 1914. The
same lie was used back then. Supposedly the Germans had attacked the
monastery at Jasno-Gora.

They always lied, they lie today, they lie, they lie.
There were countless numbers of these malicious pictures in World War
I. Today we see the new versions of this crude charge. Enemy radio
reports reports of drugged candy and poison gas-filled children's
balloons, with which German troops allegedly killed Polish children.
And our enemies decided to spread this vile slander in the exact
moment that the world heard from neutral journalists about the
unimaginable crimes perpetrated by the Polish on fellow German
countrymen. All of these neutral independent reporters saw and
corroborated the terrible atrocities against Germans with their own
eyes. In light of these proven facts, the shameless enemy presumes to
turn the tables and pin these murders on the Germans, declaring that
the murdered, whose names and addresses are known, are Poles.

They hate the Fuehrer, because he exposes their lies and crimes.
They hate him, because he rescued the hard-working German people from
eploitation. How happy they would be to see the F�hrer and the entire
German people delivered into the dark machinations of the world
Jewry! It shows the impotence of the Jews, since all they can do is
drag a straw man through the streets and burn it.
What do these subhumans know about the joy of a genuine national
community? These warmongers are hard at work rousing the world against
Germany. How little they know about the indisoluble bond between
F�hrer and people that is so overwhelmingly clear in this picture:

The Fuehrer speaks with German workers.
He knows that he can trust them, and they know that our cause is in
his good hands.

The enemy countries, who are so worried about the fate of the German
people, also worry about the S. A.

We have often seen them; we know how these men look. They are our
comrades, our colleagues in the workplace, our fathers, brothers, sons
and men.
Do they look like this? Since when are these imagined daggers the true
symbol of the S. A.? Once again some professional liar has taken his
pen in his hand.
They lie, they lie....

German men from all regions and occupations use their free time and
energy in regular practice, so they can be ready to serve the
community. When in the summer of 1939 the agricultural labor force was
too small to bring in the rich harvest, these men freely joined in to
help with the harvest, serving the homeland on peaceful fields. Why
does the enemy press, which loves to speak of its objective reporting,
never carry such pictures of Germany?

The more one examines their endless scribbling and radio news, the
clearer one sees that these expert liars have never spoken the truth,
not even once.
This time a newspaper really outdid itself. Here we see how a German
holiday is libeled.

Christmas and Nazi Winter Relief
We all know this picture. It is the Christmas celebration of a German
family that did not have the means by itself to celebrate this holiday
of love in the way the F�hrer wishes, in the way that every German
family should experience.
The NSV got involved.

Helpers, men and women, walked upstairs and downstairs, heard the
wishes of the needy, and provided gifts.
We all know the results. In any case, the 80 million people of the
greater German Reich know that the liar who drew the picture on the
previous page of an alleged German Christmas is not only a liar but
also an idiot. If the gentlemen wanted to lie, they should have at
least started out more intelligently, so that they were not found out
immediately.
What National Socialist Germany has done and continues to do for
working people is unique in the entire world.

The foreign plutocratic countries that are dominated by high finance
viewed this new and happy life with envy and ill-will. They never
ceased in their endeavor to compel this new Germany into war, to keep
it in the same miserable state it was in after the Treaty of
Versailles.

But Germany knows what it has to lose. And because it is stronger than
the rest of the world, it will end this struggle victoriously.

Mr. Churchill, English warmonger, First Lord of the Admiralty,
architect of the encirclement campaign had it easy in the fall of
1939.
When he decided to wage war against Germany, he selected four English
passenger ships that were sailing to America. Then he sent the above
telegram, dated 28 August 1939, to Cunard White Star Lines, compelling
them to turn German passengers away from these ships, as they would be
uncomfortable eyewitnesses. See the accompanying letter from the
shipping company, dated 29 August 1939. Churchill then sent suitable
"rescue ships" to be "coincidentally" on the course of these ships,
which were now loaded with Americans. The Athenia was torpedoed and
sunk. If the affair with the "Athenia" not worked, then one of the
other three ships would have been sunk,so that Mr. Churchill would
have more stories for the English Ministry of Lies.

We know the rest. The yellow press of the world blows Churchill's
lying horn obediently: a German submarine allegedly sank the
"Athenia."
But the evil, criminal escapade failed. Germany got hold of the
documents and exposed the criminals.

Once again, one of the vilest and most base of the English lies is
exposed.
The following story is perhaps the best way of showing the reality of
moneybags journalism, and how decent foreign journalists are forced to
invent lie afer lie.
A couple of months ago, a foreign journalist whose name we must hide
in order to protect his job, came to Germany. He wanted to see the
alleged "Nazi hell" with his own eyes, in order to give an eyewitness
account.

He saw workers who had jobs. He saw workers taking vacations with the
KdF. And he saw workers going to the theater. He saw the NSV's charity
for the poor. He saw and was amazed.

He had not expected to see that! How could he, knowing the truth,
continue to write lies and false atrocity stories about Germany, like
the financiers of his newspaper want it?...
In German camps, criminals and misfits live in clean and orderly
accommodations, receive sufficient nourishment and have enough time
for both work and play.
The foreign press reporter visited one of these camps.
The officials of the German concentration camp were outraged when they
later read his article.

The article talked about piles of corpses over which the poor reporter
had to climb, of moaning people in dark dungeons, of caning orgies and
other such imaginary atrocities.
The man had seemed so honest. How could he lie like that? What had
happened? The journalist wrote a letter to explain. He had written a
truthful account of what he had seen at the concentration camp.

But the owner of the newspaper switched everything around. Naturally
there are decent foreign papers that would never falsify the facts
like that, but we are not talking about them here.

The newspaperman begged the Germans not to take action against his
paper or the publisher who falsified the report, because then he would
lose his job.
That is how freedom of the press looks like in other countries; that
is how the lies and fairy tales come to be.

The Fuehrer spoke about the criminal newspaper Jews and the war
profiteers, in his speech on 6 October. They order the journalists and
radio reporters around like schoolboys. These "servants of public
opinion" are not allowed to have convictions or express their true
opinions, and only a very few exceptions prove this rule. They must
lie and slander and blacken Germany and its Fuehrer to keep the
gentlemen behind the plutocratic, moneybag policies in business.

But why do these newspaper moneybags lie so crudely, so stupidly, so
impudently? Why do they spread their slander all over Germany of all
places?

They lie because they are weak and Germany is strong. They lie because
they want to make money by going to war against Germany, even though
the people do not want to go to war and are scared to go to war
against a strong Germany...

Things are a thousand times better here. Things are more honest and
fair here than anywhere in the entire world.
Here we recognize the honor of the worker.
Here there is a right to work.
Here the moneybags are not in control...
In conclusion:
We will not be confused by the lies of the foreign countries! We know
what we are fighting for!

Topaz

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England's Guilt
by Joseph Goebbels

It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into
the war against their will or even against their intentions. The
opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all
the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They
surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal
other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and
this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.
Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the
Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not
support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian
reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help
of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any
measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring
clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of
aggression against Germany.

The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was
traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always
directed its main military might against Germany. It never could
tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by
claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.

Today there is still another reason. The English warmongers conceal
it. It is crassly egotistic. The English prime minister announced the
day the war began that England's goal was to destroy Hitlerism.
However, he defined Hitlerism in a way other than how the English
plutocracy actually sees it. The English warmongers claim that
National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure
against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger
for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality,
however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The
English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to
conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England
controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has
never threatened English interests.

So when Chamberlain says that England wants to destroy Hitlerism in
this war, he is in one sense incorrect. But in another sense, he is
speaking the truth. England does want to destroy Hitlerism. It sees
Hitlerism as the present internal state of the Reich, which is a thorn
in the eye of English plutocracy.

England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's
state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest
land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact
the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of
this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished,
socially enslaved and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter
of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs.
Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is
there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums.
Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of
it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly
brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate from making
major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve
capitalist democracy.

Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social
ailment. The Lords and City people can remain the richest people one
earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting
their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own
country.

Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and
modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English
plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy
Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that
have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly
fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English
capitalism.
That is why England declared war on Germany. Since it was accustomed
to letting others fight its wars, it looked to the European continent
to find those ready to fight for England's interests. France was ready
to take on this degrading duty, since the same kind of people ruled
France. They too were ready for war out of egotistic reasons. Western
European democracy is really only a Western European plutocracy that
rules the world. It declared war on German socialism because it
endangered their capitalist interests.
A similar drama began in 1914. England had more luck during those four
and a half years than it is having today. Europe's nations had no
chance to see what was happening. The nations of Europe today have no
desire to play the same role they played during the World War. England
and France stand alone. Still, England is trying once again to wage
war without making any personal sacrifice. The goal is to blockade
Germany, to gradually bring it to submit by starvation. That is
longstanding English policy. They used it successfully in the
Napoleonic wars, and also during the World War. It would work now as
well, if the German people had not been educated by National
Socialism. National Socialism is immune to English temptations.
English propaganda lies no longer work in Germany. They have gradually
lost their effectiveness in the rest of the world as well, since
German propaganda today reaches far beyond its borders. This time,
English plutocracy will not succeed in driving a wedge between the
German people and their leadership, though that is their goal.

The German nation today is defending not only its honor and
independence, but also the great social accomplishments it has made
through hard and untiring work since 1933. It is a people's state
built on the foundation of justice and economic good sense. In the
past, England always had the advantage of facing a fragmented Germany.
It is only natural that English plutocracy today seeks to split the
German people and make it ripe for new collapse.

English lying propaganda can no longer name things by their proper
names. It therefore claims that it is not fighting the German people,
only Hitlerism. But we know this old song. In South Africa, England
was not fighting the Boers, only Krugerism. In the World War, England
wanted to destroy Kaiserism, not the German people. But that did not
stop English plutocracy from brutally and relentlessly suppressing the
Boers after that war or the Germans after our defeat.

A child once burned is twice shy. The German people were once victims
of lying English war propaganda. Now it understands the situation. It
has long understood the background of this war. It knows that behind
all English plutocratic capitalism's fine words, its aim is to destroy
Germany's social achievements. We are defending the socialism we have
build in Germany since 1933 with every military, economic and
spiritual means at our disposal. The bald English lies have no impact
on the German people.

English plutocracy is finally being forced to defend itself. In the
past, it always found other nations to fight for it. This time, the
English people must themselves risk their necks for the lords and City
men. They will meet a unified German people of workers, farmers and
soldiers who are prepared to defend their nation with every means at
their disposal.

We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy
forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have
to pay for it.

The whole world is waking up today. It can no longer be ruled by the
capitalist methods of the 19th Century. The peoples have matured. They
will one day deal a terrible blow to the capitalist plutocrats who are
the cause of their misery.

It is no accident that National Socialism has the historical task of
carrying out this reckoning. Plutocracy is collapsing intellectually,
spiritually, and in the not too distant future, militarily. We are
acting consistently with Nietzsche's words: "Give a shove to what is
falling."

Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
>
> England's Guilt
> by Joseph Goebbels
>

Topaz

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On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:41:03 -0400, Tim Miller
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

Topaz

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:40:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>Goebbels was a liar. I already proved it.

You only proved you have your head up a Jews aft end.


>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>mentally.


Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not

>Having started what they cannot stop,


By Mark Weber

> they call upon their
>nation to continue its futile resistance, bringing many more months of
>destruction and terror.

Here is what happens when you lose against subhuman allies:

>
>


>Excerpt from "Resistance at Any Price"
>by Joseph Goebbels
>
>Our enemies are even insolent enough to call us barbarians
>and war criminals because here and there we put up touch
>resistance with the means we have available. Just recently,
>British terror fliers who had been shot down after doing
>their destructive work were attacked by men and women in
>Berlin, who after their homes had been destroyed were trying
>to rescue their possessions and dig out the corpses of their
>parents and children. Their reaction was understandable,
>but German guards protected them with their weapons. What
>would happen to a captured German pilot, were he lead through
>a flaming Moscow? To ask the question is to answer it. Knightly
>behavior will not accomplish much in this war. The German
>dreamer must wake up if he does not want to lose his freedom
>and his life. How long will he wait to do what is necessary?
>Will he wait until Bolshevist posters appear ordering everyone
>between fourteen and fifty to show up at a certain spot with
>clothing and two weeks of food in order to be transported to
>Siberia?
>
>
>"Widerstand um jeden Preis," Das Reich, 22 April 1945, pp. 1-2.
>
>Not long after this was written, Goebbels killed his family

German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:

> and begged


>to be shot, which he, thankfully, was.

The Jews control your media and your mind. Figuratively speaking, you


have your head up a Jews aft end.

>


>"Resistance at any price," as long as it's YOU and not HIM! [chuckle]

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

Tim Miller

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Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:40:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Goebbels was a liar. I already proved it.
>
> You only proved you have your head up a Jews aft end.
>

No, he proved that Goebbels was a PAID liar.

AND that YOU seem to have some kind of perverse fascination
with other people's "aft ends".

Like most nazis.

Topaz

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:03:24 -0400, Tim Miller
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

Topaz

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:04:34 -0400, Tim Miller
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


>No, he proved that Goebbels was a PAID liar.

The speech proves that you have your head up your aft end. If you
read it you would understand how far up it is.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>Goebbels was a liar. I already proved it.
>
> You only proved you have your head up a Jews aft end.

I proved it and you never even ATTEMPTED to support your side with
anything more than wiggling your fingers and shouting "neener neener."
No WONDER you guys got the shit kicked out of you! LOL

>>In the following excerpt, you can read Goebbels whine about the very
>>practices they performed against others. This two-faced confession
>>amply demonstrates how weak the nazis were, physically,spiritually,and
>>mentally.
>
>
> Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

Like most nazi-wannabes, you can't support your argument with any
facts. That's why you're continually bested by Jews,
African-Americans, and- yes- even Catholics.

You're weak and stupid. Nothing personal.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>England's Guilt
>by Joseph Goebbels

Already proven a liar. Next!

Hitler's long-concealed secret heterosexual fantasy has been exposed
by the systematic analysis and correlation of the three thousand odd
metaphors he uses in Mein Kampf. The results of this study were later
confirmed by the testimony of one who "claims to know." It is not
necessary to describe its peculiar features here; suffice to say that
the sexual pattern has resulted from the fusion of (i) a primitive
excretory soiling tendency, and (ii) a passive masochistic tendency
(hypertrophy of the feminine component in his makeup). The second
element (masochism) derives much of its strength from an unconscious
need for punishment, a tendency which may be expected in one who has
assiduously repressed, out of swollen pride, the submissive reactions
(compliance, cooperation, payment of debts, expression of gratitude,
acknowledgement of errors,apology, confession, atonement) which are
required of everybody who would adaptively participate in social life.
While Hitler consciously overstrives to assert his infinite
superiority, nature instinctively corrects the balance by imposing an
erotic pattern that calls for infinite self-abasement.
-Analysis of The Personality of Adolf Hitler
Dr. Henry A. Murray
Harvard Psychological Clinic.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>The question of Mr. Hitler's ancestry

...isn't important. Nazi's always overlook that fact that he's not
"Aryan" because it's to much for their tiny minds to handle.

In view of his long service and the shortage of officers in the German
Army, the fact that Hitler never rose above the rank of corporal
aroused curiosity and was much discussed in the German Press before
1933. There is no evidence that Hitler ever applied or was eager for
promotion to the rank of non-commissioned officer, leave alone a
commission. Probably he impression of eccentricity which he continued
to give was no recommendation.

While not unpopular with his comrades, they felt he did not share
their interests or attitude to the war. He did not care about leave or
women. He was silent when the others grumbles about the time they had
to spend in the trenches or the hardships. Konrad Heiden, in his book
'Der Fuhrer," says 'We all cursed him and found him intolerable.'

Tim Miller

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Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:04:34 -0400, Tim Miller
> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> No, he proved that Goebbels was a PAID liar.
>
> The speech proves that you have your head up your aft end. If you
> read it you would understand how far up it is.
>
>
> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,


No, it proves that Goebbels was a PAID liar.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Tim Miller <replyton...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I would say the concepts of "proof" and "liar."

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Topaz

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:47:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>...isn't important. Nazi's always overlook that fact that he's not
>"Aryan" because it's to much for their tiny minds to handle.

You have your head up your aft end.

>
>In view of his long service and the shortage of officers in the German
>Army, the fact that Hitler never rose above the rank of corporal

He did become the leader of Germany right?

Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:47:39 AM7/4/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:45:23 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>England's Guilt
>>by Joseph Goebbels
>
>Already proven a liar. Next!
>

Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in

Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:49:12 AM7/4/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:01:03 -0400, Tim Miller
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>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?

Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:50:52 AM7/4/09
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Let's see your so called proof. I always post this speech which
proves you have your head up your aft end!

Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:53:08 AM7/4/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:01:45 -0400, Tim Miller
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


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>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>
>
>No, it proves that Goebbels was a PAID liar.

Let us start with this. Did you read it?

AndyWest

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:54:45 AM7/4/09
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Topaz wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:47:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>...isn't important. Nazi's always overlook that fact that he's not
>>"Aryan" because it's to much for their tiny minds to handle.
>
>
> You have your head up your aft end.
>
>
>>In view of his long service and the shortage of officers in the German
>>Army, the fact that Hitler never rose above the rank of corporal
>
>
> He did become the leader of Germany right?

Then killed himself when he turned it into rubble.

Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:53:27 AM7/4/09
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Topaz

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:59:48 AM7/4/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:44:07 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>I proved it

You only proved you have your head up your aft end.

> and you never even ATTEMPTED to support your side with

Nonsense. I refute your rubbish when you actually try to prove
something right in the very post you are posting. This isn't that kind
of post.


>anything more than wiggling your fingers and shouting "neener neener."
>No WONDER you guys got the shit kicked out of you! LOL

You have your head up your aft end.

>


>Like most nazi-wannabes, you can't support your argument with any
>facts.

I post facts all the time. Of course I don't not waste much time
those you have their heads up their aft ends.


> That's why you're continually bested by Jews,
>African-Americans, and- yes- even Catholics.


"All countries which have been the homelands of European-derived
peoples are under attack from the same place. The attack is not from
all sides; it is only one group that is orchestrating this attack.

The goal of the recent change in immigration policies is to dilute the
White race in all these countries by importing millions of third world
minorities. These minorities are used to create diversion and
conflict, which is the atmosphere that the Jewish mafia thrives in.
Jews control our media, our universities, our finances, and they use
their enormous ill-gotten gains to bribe or intimidate or sue into
submission anyone that opposes them.

We have only ourselves to blame, as we are the nations that turned on
Germany for trying to fight off their Jewish oppressors. Now it is
becoming obvious even to the most blind that the Jews have us all by
the throats and they intend to destroy western civilization from
within. Immigration is just one of their weapons.

They use political correctness and the pretense of minority rights to
punish anyone who speaks out against this illegal subversion of our
governments. The Muslim problem is no more than a reaction to the
support of Israel from England, the USA, and other Western nations.
The Muslims know what the Jews are and who can blame them for fighting
in any way they can.

The real terrorists have become our own governments which are being
controlled by the Jewish race. They are a race/nation/religion and
they work together as a group, while Whites are individuals.
Individuals cannot stand against organized crime. As long as we are
so afraid of being called a racist to even talk about this subject, we
will remain enslaved and it will just get worse.

Already in the USA, it is Whites who are having trouble getting good
jobs. Jews run all media, most government, financing, and
universities. They use affirmative action and quotas to put
unqualified blacks and browns into many jobs, while they take all the
top jobs. Whites are squeezed from the top and the bottom.

Some Whites of course are still doing very well being politically
correct and serving the Jews. These race traitors are worse than the
Jews themselves. Without their cooperation the Jews would be easily
removed and could not control the world.

Look to your central banks. The Bank of England is not English! The
Jews have been in control of England since 1694, and they have
steadily increased their control until now they are strong enough to
force the English into slavery. That is where their control comes
from.

The Federal Reserve in the USA makes from 150 to 300 billion a year
and it is all tax-free. This is a privately owned bank that has
never been audited. It is unconstitutional and it now is the most
powerful branch of government and it is mostly owned by foreign Jewish
bankers. This is just the crack, as they use this money to get
control of Wall Street and most of the large corporations of the USA.

There is no place to run and there is no place to hide. We are the
prey and they are the predators and until you realize this you are
like the fawn in the land of the hyena. As long as we refuse to open
our eyes and our mouths, we will be little more than food for the Jews
and our children will be even weaker and fewer, until the great light
of our race is extinguished from the earth."

John David

Tim Miller

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:01:47 PM7/4/09
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Tim Miller

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Topaz wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:01:45 -0400, Tim Miller
> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>>
>> No, it proves that Goebbels was a PAID liar.
>
> Let us start with this. Did you read it?
>
>
> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,

What part of "Geobbels was a paid liar" are you too stupid to grasp?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:31:46 PM7/4/09
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In talk.politics.guns Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:31:55 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns Tim Miller <replyton...@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Topaz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:03:24 -0400, Tim Miller
>>>> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
>>>
>>>What part of "Proven Liar" were you too stupid to understand?
>>
>>I would say the concepts of "proof" and "liar."
>
> Let's see your so called proof.

I've already proven it, showed you the proof, and you responded by
admitting that he lied. Short memory, boy?

>I always post this speech which proves

How does posting MORE lies from a proven liar prove anything? No
WONDER you freaks are so confused.

>you have your head up your aft end!

That's your standard response for just about anything you don't have
the balls to explain, isn't it?

>Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels

I've already proven him a liar. You, too.

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