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Wayne

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:57:06 PM11/5/09
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Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his young
daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action rifle. He
was obviously one of those fathers with a tight father/daughter bond. She
was attentive, careful, and having the time of her life!

One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
--Wayne


Lookout

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:05:21 PM11/5/09
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.

RM v2.0

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Nov 5, 2009, 6:08:47 PM11/5/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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God forbid you teach them responsibility and take the mystery out of
firearms. What a buffoon.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 5, 2009, 6:31:18 PM11/5/09
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That's the typical response of the troll known as Lookout. All he can
do lately is just bleat nonsense. He just wants attention.

Gray Ghost

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Nov 5, 2009, 7:58:04 PM11/5/09
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Yeah, you'll just wait until your idiot spawn find a gun and kill themselves
or someone else.

My experience has been that kids who shoot with thier parents are almost 100%
unlikely to involve themselves in drugs or other antisocial behaviors. Helps
to make 'em responsible. Can't have that, can we?

--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill

Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:13:29 AM11/6/09
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What mystery? You're making shit up. Wait until the can be held
legally responsible for their actions. Be a goddamn parent and teach
them responsibility WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE.

Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:13:53 AM11/6/09
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AHAHAAHA You just can't stop commenting on my posts!

Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:15:35 AM11/6/09
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:04 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
(Gray Ghost) wrote:

>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his
>>>young daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action
>>>rifle. He was obviously one of those fathers with a tight
>>>father/daughter bond. She was attentive, careful, and having the time of
>>>her life!
>>>
>>>One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
>>>--Wayne
>>>
>> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
>> an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.
>>
>
>Yeah, you'll just wait until your idiot spawn find a gun and kill themselves
>or someone else.

First..my gun is locked up. She can't get at it. Besides..she's 22 now
and married and out of the house. Fuck you can't even make things up
that make any sense.


>
>My experience has been that kids who shoot with thier parents are almost 100%
>unlikely to involve themselves in drugs or other antisocial behaviors. Helps
>to make 'em responsible. Can't have that, can we?

We see kids shooting and killing other kids almost weekly now.
They shouldn't be given a gun to hold until they are legally
responsible for their actions. That makes common sense you jackass.

Gray Ghost

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:18:50 AM11/6/09
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Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Apparently our kids are responsible enough to habdle firearms.

Fred B. Brown

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:19:01 AM11/6/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yes there is. Now this young girl has been taught gun safety.

Fred B. Brown

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:20:01 AM11/6/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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We just like pointing out your stupidity.

Fred B. Brown

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:25:01 AM11/6/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You begin teaching responsibility at the earliest age, before they begin
to learn to be irresponsible, like so many are today. Just take a look at
all those dumb reality TV shows with people doing the stupidest things.
And new ones crop up every season. Monkey see, monkey do. Idiots!

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:38:20 AM11/6/09
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The National Shooting Team is selected based on performance in
competition. Olympic Gold Medallist, Kim Rhode has been a member of
the National Team since she was 14 years old. Members of the National
Team compete in International competitions like World Cups and the Pan
American Games in order to shoot high enough score to qualify for the
Olympic Games. Several months before the Olympic Games, Team members
compete for the opportunity to be a member of the US Olympic Shooting
Team.
It takes a lot of work to become a member of the US Olympic
Shooting Team. You can do it! And with members of the National
Shooting Team ranging in age from 15 to over 50, it's never too late
(or too early) to start down the Road to the Olympics.
http://www.ocshooters.com/Gen/kidshooting/kids-and-guns.htm#YOUNG%20SHOOTERS


There are a lot of ignorant people- like Lookout- who just want to
pass their fear of guns along to their children. That's just another
form of child abuse.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:40:55 AM11/6/09
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In talk.politics.guns "Fred B. Brown" <fredb...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:k1c7f55eav73p436t...@4ax.com...

>> What mystery? You're making shit up. Wait until the can be held
>> legally responsible for their actions. Be a goddamn parent and teach
>> them responsibility WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE.
>
>You begin teaching responsibility at the earliest age, before they begin
>to learn to be irresponsible, like so many are today. Just take a look at
>all those dumb reality TV shows with people doing the stupidest things.
>And new ones crop up every season. Monkey see, monkey do. Idiots!

Not to mention these gems:

Relationship between type of gun owned and percent committing street,
drug and gun crimes.

Illegal gun:
Street crimes = 74%
Drug use = 41%
Gun crimes = 21%

No gun:
Street crimes = 24%
Drug use = 15%
Gun crimes = 1%

Legal Gun:
Street crimes = 14%
Drug use = 13%
Gun crimes = 0%

"The socialization into gun ownership is also vastly different for
legal and illegal gunowners. Those who own legal guns have fathers who
own guns for sport and hunting. On the other hand, those who own
illegal guns have friends who own illegal guns and are far more likely
to be gang members. For legal gunowners, socialization appears to take
place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place
'on the street.'"

"Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and
drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than non owners of
guns."
Source: U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice,
Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454,
"Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," August 1995.

Gray Ghost

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:47:09 AM11/6/09
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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Based on that it appears we should make firearms training mandatory in junior
high school.

Bama Brian

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:38:31 AM11/6/09
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http://www.wafb.com/global/story.asp?s=10741492


--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana

Bama Brian

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:41:11 AM11/6/09
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In your tiny brain it's never "APPROPRIATE", is it?

Bama Brian

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:43:14 AM11/6/09
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Failing to prepare your children for the adult world is truly the
ultimate form of child abuse.

Demon Buddha

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:40:39 PM11/6/09
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What a nervous nellie. I was shooting at 10. Most of my friends from
that time were, too. Almost everyone I know of an "older generation"
had their rifles by then. I know of not a *single* case of misuse or
abuse. No accidents, no murdering. Nothing but safe development of
high art capabilities. My gf's two grand daughters got introduced to my
.17 HMR rifle last year. The little one was 7 years old. They shot 22
pistols as well. Very attentive, very careful, and they both had very
good trigger technique.

Your opinion is clearly based on gross ignorance of firearms, as well
as children because if you knew the first thing about either you would
not be opening your yap and making a fool of yourself.

Go get yourself a lifetime supply of brown paper grocery bags. You
need them as badly as anyone I have ever met, and that is really saying
something.

Bert Hyman

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:53:11 PM11/6/09
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In news:soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com Lookout
<mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason.

Your lack of imagination imposes no restrictions on the thinking
community.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Wayne

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:58:17 PM11/6/09
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"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely.


Jim Yanik

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:03:19 PM11/6/09
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Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in
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> In news:soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com Lookout
><mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason.

Kinda redundant there....

>
> Your lack of imagination imposes no restrictions on the thinking
> community.
>

a 10 yr old that knows how to handle a gun with safety and respect is a
good thing.

The problem is when they DONT know how to handle firearms.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Wayne

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:03:32 PM11/6/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Reasons:
1.Avoid gun accidents by children
2. Provide a wholesome outing for parent/child
3. Teach children the importance of RKBA
4. Introduce children to a potentially lifelong hobby.
5. ....
The list is too long...I'll stop there.


Wayne

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:04:41 PM11/6/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:04 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his
>>>>young daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action
>>>>rifle. He was obviously one of those fathers with a tight
>>>>father/daughter bond. She was attentive, careful, and having the time
>>>>of
>>>>her life!
>>>>
>>>>One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
>>>>--Wayne
>>>>
>>> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
>>> an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, you'll just wait until your idiot spawn find a gun and kill
>>themselves
>>or someone else.
>
> First..my gun is locked up. She can't get at it.
-
As it turns out, you probably can't get at it either if it's locked up.

<YOU have a gun???????>


Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:54:08 PM11/6/09
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:40:39 -0500, Demon Buddha <Nob...@no.where>
wrote:

It's asinine to give a kid something the can't be legally held
responsible for. Your kids should be taken from your home.

Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:55:09 PM11/6/09
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:03:19 -0600, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov>
wrote:

You don't give a kid something they can't be held legally responsible
for.

The day will come. You will register ALL you guns

Lookout

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:56:10 PM11/6/09
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:04:41 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Sure I can..in about 10 seconds from where I'm sitting.
>
><YOU have a gun???????>
>
Sure do. I was threatened by some rednecks and the local sheriff
suggested I arm myself.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:20:25 AM11/7/09
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I would say you could certainly start some rudimentary training--
especially safety- in grammar school.

Bama Brian

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:34:43 AM11/7/09
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If this is true, then you are a hypocrite.

Nothing you can say from this point on has any value.

*PLONK*

Gray Ghost

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:40:23 AM11/7/09
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Bama Brian <claypo...@gmail.com> wrote in
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It took you this long?

Wayne

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:51:47 AM11/7/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?

Did you also avoid teaching her how to swim? Every kid should grow up
knowing about guns, just as they should be taught to swim as young as
possible.


Lookout

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:47:54 PM11/7/09
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Why? Because I think the laws should be enforced and strengthened?
Nah..not at all


>
>Nothing you can say from this point on has any value.
>
>*PLONK*

You plonk because you lost again. Run old man, run!

Lookout

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:48:25 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:40:23 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
(Gray Ghost) wrote:

AHAHAHAH And you've got your ass beat too.

Lookout

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:49:53 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.


>
>Did you also avoid teaching her how to swim? Every kid should grow up
>knowing about guns, just as they should be taught to swim as young as
>possible.
>

Wrong again. She can swim.
LEARN about? Sure. Touch one? Not until they are of legal age to
handle the consequences. That only makes sense. Did you let your kid
drive under age? Of course not.

Prescott Niles

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:22:17 PM11/7/09
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Lookout wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:

>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>
>
> Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.


You were never threatened, liar.
And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
found one laying around?

Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!

Wayne

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:46:08 PM11/7/09
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sure...bumper cars. A full sized car is obviously too big, just as a 30-06
would be too big for a small kid.

In my own case, my first gun shooting was with a 22 rifle at about age 6 or
7. As I got a stronger grip, I was introduced to a revolver...probably
about age 10. My dad didn't lock up the guns. They were kept loaded in a
specific place, and I knew better than to ever touch one. Of course,
depending on the kid...YMMV.


Lookout

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:35:53 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:17 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
wrote:

>Lookout wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>
>>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>>
>>
>> Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.
>
>
>You were never threatened, liar.

Bullshit. Try being a social liberal talk show host in Alabama and see
what happens to you.

>And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
> Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
>found one laying around?

Sure I taught her. But she doesn't need to fire it to learn how to
safely handle it.

>
>Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!

Nah..you're just not capable of teaching a child safety.

Lookout

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:36:53 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:46:08 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Cars are made for driving. Guns are made for killing.


>
>In my own case, my first gun shooting was with a 22 rifle at about age 6 or
>7. As I got a stronger grip, I was introduced to a revolver...probably
>about age 10. My dad didn't lock up the guns. They were kept loaded in a
>specific place, and I knew better than to ever touch one. Of course,
>depending on the kid...YMMV.
>

Yet kids get them all the time and take them to school...because of
idiots like you.

Jim Yanik

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:36:34 PM11/7/09
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"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:hd48j8$s7e$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

if your gun is locked up(unloaded?),then you aren't going to be able to use
it to defend yourself.Particularly if you keep the ammo secured in another
location,as some folks recommend.

> -
> So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>
> Did you also avoid teaching her how to swim? Every kid should grow up
> knowing about guns, just as they should be taught to swim as young as
> possible.
>
>

teaching your kids how to swim is considered "waterproofing" them,teaching
them to not play with matches is "fireproofing" them,and teaching them
about guns is similar,it makes them safer.

there's all sort of things kids need to be taught to make them safer.
There's no logical reason to exclude gun safety.

Prescott Niles

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:48:38 PM11/7/09
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Lookout wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:17 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Lookout wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>>>
>>>
>>>Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.
>>
>>
>>You were never threatened, liar.

> Bullshit. Try being a social liberal talk show host in Alabama and see
> what happens to you.


Why would I want to be like you?
YOU said that YOU were threatened.
I called your bluff!

LIAR!


>>And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
>> Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
>>found one laying around?

> Sure I taught her. But she doesn't need to fire it to learn how to
> safely handle it.

So you DID teach her _your_ version about "gun safety?"
You keep lying, at each and every turn!
You just said got caught in your own lie...AGAIN!

Look above! When asked by Wayne: "So you brought up your daughter

without teaching her about guns?"

YOU said: "Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as
I was."

So here is PROOF that you LIED, yet again!

In this one post alone, you made several lies that YOU admitted to.

>>Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!
>
>
> Nah..you're just not capable of teaching a child safety.

I never said I had children, YOU DID!


YOU said that YOU never ever taught them gun safety, and then you lied
and said you taught your daugher about them, and made another LIE about
how YOU were "threatened."

Shame on you.


Prescott Niles

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:59:27 PM11/7/09
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Lookout wrote:

> Cars are made for driving. Guns are made for killing.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Is that what you told your supposed daughter after you were allegedly
"threatened"?

What was the Lincoln Continental that Priscilla Ford used for on
Thanksgiving day in Reno?

Oh THAT'S right, Driving on sidewalks to NOT murder as many people as
she could!

If you really do have a daughter, at least I hope she has big tits to
make it into the porn industry, because with you as a father, she will
be as stump stupid as you.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:09:04 AM11/8/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:59:27 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
wrote:

>Lookout wrote:


>
>> Cars are made for driving. Guns are made for killing.
>
>BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
>Is that what you told your supposed daughter after you were allegedly
>"threatened"?

Nope. But I'm sure you thought that was an insult.

>What was the Lincoln Continental that Priscilla Ford used for on
>Thanksgiving day in Reno?
>
>Oh THAT'S right, Driving on sidewalks to NOT murder as many people as
>she could!
>
>If you really do have a daughter, at least I hope she has big tits to
>make it into the porn industry, because with you as a father, she will
>be as stump stupid as you.

And as usual you punks, when beat with logic, common sense and facts
decide to attack my wife or daughter. I bet you feel better now.
You're a pathetic little twerp who is still hurting from getting your
smart ass mouth pounded all through high school.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:11:34 AM11/8/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:36:34 -0600, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov>
wrote:

>"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in

Uhh..you don't know. You're guessing. Why?

>> So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>>
>> Did you also avoid teaching her how to swim? Every kid should grow up
>> knowing about guns, just as they should be taught to swim as young as
>> possible.
>>
>>
>
>teaching your kids how to swim is considered "waterproofing" them,teaching
>them to not play with matches is "fireproofing" them,and teaching them
>about guns is similar,it makes them safer.

Wrong. Swimming and guns have no connection.

>there's all sort of things kids need to be taught to make them safer.
>There's no logical reason to exclude gun safety.

Wrong again. And most of the country disagrees with you.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:16:03 AM11/8/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:48:38 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
wrote:

>Lookout wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:17 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Lookout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.
>>>
>>>
>>>You were never threatened, liar.
>
>> Bullshit. Try being a social liberal talk show host in Alabama and see
>> what happens to you.
>
>
>Why would I want to be like you?
>YOU said that YOU were threatened.

I was

>I called your bluff!

No you didn't.

>LIAR!

Prove I'm lying.


>>>And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
>>> Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
>>>found one laying around?
>
>> Sure I taught her. But she doesn't need to fire it to learn how to
>> safely handle it.
>
>So you DID teach her _your_ version about "gun safety?"
>You keep lying, at each and every turn!
>You just said got caught in your own lie...AGAIN!

Sure I did. She never handled the gun. She did attend a gun safety
course and watched.

>Look above! When asked by Wayne: "So you brought up your daughter
>without teaching her about guns?"
>
>YOU said: "Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as
>I was."

She watched at a class. I brought her to the class.

>So here is PROOF that you LIED, yet again!

Wrong again. I taught her driving safety for years before she got
behind the wheel. Same thing.


>
>In this one post alone, you made several lies that YOU admitted to.

It's nice to see I've pissed you off so much that you're spending time
going back and looking at old posts. How can you let someone like me
get you this upset?

>
>>>Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!
>>
>>
>> Nah..you're just not capable of teaching a child safety.
>
>I never said I had children, YOU DID!

That's good that you don't. You have anger problems.

>YOU said that YOU never ever taught them gun safety, and then you lied
>and said you taught your daugher about them, and made another LIE about
>how YOU were "threatened."

Wrong again.

>Shame on you.

You need some help.

Bama Brian

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:19:23 AM11/8/09
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Sometimes there is hope for a conversion. But when we enter the gate
which says, "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here", it is way past plonk
time.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:03:14 PM11/8/09
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You should give up. You are an idiot.

tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:36:48 PM11/8/09
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In article <soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

>
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his young
> >daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action rifle. He
> >was obviously one of those fathers with a tight father/daughter bond. She
> >was attentive, careful, and having the time of her life!
> >
> >One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
> >--Wayne
> >
> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
> an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.

Go cower in fear in a corner

tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:39:33 PM11/8/09
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In article <Xns9CBB179A5FB06We...@216.196.97.142>,
grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com says...
>
> Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:s4c7f5td9omii0meh...@4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:04 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
> > (Gray Ghost) wrote:
> >
> >>Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >>news:soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his
> >>>>young daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action
> >>>>rifle. He was obviously one of those fathers with a tight
> >>>>father/daughter bond. She was attentive, careful, and having the time
> >>>>of her life!
> >>>>
> >>>>One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
> >>>>--Wayne
> >>>>
> >>> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
> >>> an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Yeah, you'll just wait until your idiot spawn find a gun and kill
> >>themselves or someone else.
> >
> > First..my gun is locked up. She can't get at it. Besides..she's 22 now
> > and married and out of the house. Fuck you can't even make things up
> > that make any sense.
> >>
> >>My experience has been that kids who shoot with thier parents are almost
> >>100% unlikely to involve themselves in drugs or other antisocial
> >>behaviors. Helps to make 'em responsible. Can't have that, can we?
> >
> > We see kids shooting and killing other kids almost weekly now.
> > They shouldn't be given a gun to hold until they are legally
> > responsible for their actions. That makes common sense you jackass.
> >
>
> Apparently our kids are responsible enough to habdle firearms.

All his protesting about this sure calls his parenting skills into
question..

tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:44:57 PM11/8/09
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In article <1vpbf5t39r37srfrk...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

>
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:17 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
> wrote:
>
> >Lookout wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >
> >>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
> >>
> >>
> >> Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.
> >
> >
> >You were never threatened, liar.
>
> Bullshit. Try being a social liberal talk show host in Alabama and see
> what happens to you.

Given how you act here I'm not surprised you got threatened..
Like most leftists you have a unique ability to insult people.


>
> >And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
> > Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
> >found one laying around?
>
> Sure I taught her. But she doesn't need to fire it to learn how to
> safely handle it.

And it's was soo scary !
I mean don't touch it in case it goes off on it's own...

> >
> >Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!
>
> Nah..you're just not capable of teaching a child safety.

I guess since children can't consent to sex until they are older there
is no need to teach sex ed to grade school kids..


tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:50:22 PM11/8/09
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In article <7bo9f5davacjde0lg...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

How do you plan on making people do that while respecting the
constitution ?

Bert Hyman

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:19:38 PM11/8/09
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In news:7bo9f5davacjde0lg...@4ax.com Lookout
<mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You don't give a kid something they can't be held legally responsible
> for.

Since "kids" can't be held legally responsible for anything, that must
cause you some problems.

Or at least it might if you ever had any kids.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:42:31 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:36:48 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Why should I?

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:43:35 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:39:33 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

No they are not. You hear about 'accidents' all the time.
They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:44:56 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:57 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <1vpbf5t39r37srfrk...@4ax.com>,
>mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:17 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheK...@bass.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Lookout wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>So you brought up your daughter without teaching her about guns?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Nope. She doesn't need or want one. She wasn't threatened as I was.
>> >
>> >
>> >You were never threatened, liar.
>>
>> Bullshit. Try being a social liberal talk show host in Alabama and see
>> what happens to you.
>
>Given how you act here I'm not surprised you got threatened..
>Like most leftists you have a unique ability to insult people.

I was threatened by rednecks. They didn't like my opinion. To fucking
bad..it was my show.



>> >And who said anything about her needing or wanting one?
>> > Didn't you teach your own children to never PLAY with one, if they
>> >found one laying around?
>>
>> Sure I taught her. But she doesn't need to fire it to learn how to
>> safely handle it.
>
>And it's was soo scary !
>I mean don't touch it in case it goes off on it's own

Not at all


>> >
>> >Damn! Yer children are dumber then you are!
>>
>> Nah..you're just not capable of teaching a child safety.
>
>I guess since children can't consent to sex until they are older there
>is no need to teach sex ed to grade school kids..
>

Nah...I'm not Sarah Palin.

tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:13:07 PM11/8/09
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In article <2cpef5tdqm0ndc3mn...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

Due to children not being taught proper and safe handling.

> They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
> trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.

I am not the one going balistic about a father teaching his child the
safe handling and use of a firearm.
That is you..
it seems you assume he just lets the kid go shooting whenever she
wants...

tankfixer

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:14:11 PM11/8/09
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In article <bbpef5999lj84d8h4...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

BEcause by your writing you feel that is what a person should do...

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:36:12 PM11/8/09
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On 09 Nov 2009 00:19:38 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>In news:7bo9f5davacjde0lg...@4ax.com Lookout
><mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't give a kid something they can't be held legally responsible
>> for.
>
>Since "kids" can't be held legally responsible for anything, that must
>cause you some problems.

Sure my daughter caused problems.


>
>Or at least it might if you ever had any kids.

Nice try wingnut

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:36:38 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:14:11 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <bbpef5999lj84d8h4...@4ax.com>,
>mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:36:48 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <soi6f51jins2ica6p...@4ax.com>,
>> >mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:57:06 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Went to the range yesterday and ran into a guy who was instructing his young
>> >> >daughter (estimated at 10 years old) to shoot a 223 bolt action rifle. He
>> >> >was obviously one of those fathers with a tight father/daughter bond. She
>> >> >was attentive, careful, and having the time of her life!
>> >> >
>> >> >One of life's beautiful moments that nearly brings tears to the eyes :)
>> >> >--Wayne
>> >> >
>> >> There is no reason for a 10 year old to use a gun for any reason. Only
>> >> an idiot would give a gun to a child that age.
>> >
>> >Go cower in fear in a corner
>>
>> Why should I?
>
>BEcause by your writing you feel that is what a person should do...

I've never said that. You're lying again.

Lookout

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:37:29 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:13:07 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Prove it


>> They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
>> trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.
>
>I am not the one going balistic about a father teaching his child the
>safe handling and use of a firearm.

Nope. Not going ballistic. You're lying again.

>That is you..
>it seems you assume he just lets the kid go shooting whenever she
>wants...

I never said that. You're lying again.

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:57:15 AM11/9/09
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In article <hi3ff5d3c6a6a05bf...@4ax.com>,

Right after you prove the father was negligent

>
>
> >> They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
> >> trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.
> >
> >I am not the one going balistic about a father teaching his child the
> >safe handling and use of a firearm.
>
> Nope. Not going ballistic. You're lying again.

Methinks thou doth protest too much

>
> >That is you..
> >it seems you assume he just lets the kid go shooting whenever she
> >wants...
>
> I never said that. You're lying again.

You would be the expert on lying..

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:58:19 AM11/9/09
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In article <oh3ff5hnej88avu5r...@4ax.com>,

The fear you feel is obvious

Lookout

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:26:26 AM11/9/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:58:19 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Nope. You're lying again.

Lookout

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:28:29 AM11/9/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:57:15 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

There's stories every day across the US where kids bring guns to
school. Wouldn't you call that negligence?


>
>>
>>
>> >> They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
>> >> trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.
>> >
>> >I am not the one going balistic about a father teaching his child the
>> >safe handling and use of a firearm.
>>
>> Nope. Not going ballistic. You're lying again.
>
>Methinks thou doth protest too much

You, like most conservatives, don't think about others. All you think
about is yourself.

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:29:26 AM11/9/09
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In article <c46gf5t86f4vhprb5...@4ax.com>,

Those stories relate to this one, how ?


> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >> They are no LEGALLY responsible for their actions. It's insane to
> >> >> trust a kid with a gun. Only an asshole would do that.
> >> >
> >> >I am not the one going balistic about a father teaching his child the
> >> >safe handling and use of a firearm.
> >>
> >> Nope. Not going ballistic. You're lying again.
> >
> >Methinks thou doth protest too much
>
> You, like most conservatives, don't think about others. All you think
> about is yourself.

That would be where you, like most leftists, are wrong.
Conservative think about others, we just don't believe it is right to
impose our fears on them.

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:30:17 AM11/9/09
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In article <p36gf5dgau2qmgvu2...@4ax.com>,

You should talk to an english teacher about your misuse of the word
"lying".

You might look a bit less like an idiot.

Lookout

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:58:15 AM11/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:30:17 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's used correctly. You lie often and I like pointing it out to you.

Demon Buddha

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:32:40 PM11/9/09
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Lookout wrote:

>>>>> No they are not. You hear about 'accidents' all the time.
>>>> Due to children not being taught proper and safe handling.
>>>>
>>> Prove it
>> Right after you prove the father was negligent
>
> There's stories every day across the US where kids bring guns to
> school. Wouldn't you call that negligence?

If you're serious, then you rank near the top of the list of people I
have encountered who need a very special prescription - the kind one can
only get in a psychiatric hospital.

> You, like most conservatives, don't think about others. All you think
> about is yourself.

What is your point?

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:46:13 PM11/9/09
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In article <5gigf5hjfaaphk6fv...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...

Prove where I lie..

Gray Ghost

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:25:56 AM11/10/09
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.256273c...@news.bytemine.net:

He doesn't have to. He said it so it must be true. 8)

--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill

tankfixer

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:46:05 AM11/10/09
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In article <Xns9CBF46671312We...@216.196.97.142>,
grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com says...

He likes the wrod for some reason..
Maybe he heard it allot growing up or something

Gray Ghost

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:50:04 AM11/10/09
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.25629df...@news.bytemine.net:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Inigo Montoya

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:38:32 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:32:40 -0500, Demon Buddha <Nob...@no.where>
wrote:

>Lookout wrote:
>
>>>>>> No they are not. You hear about 'accidents' all the time.
>>>>> Due to children not being taught proper and safe handling.
>>>>>
>>>> Prove it
>>> Right after you prove the father was negligent
>>
>> There's stories every day across the US where kids bring guns to
>> school. Wouldn't you call that negligence?

>
> If you're serious, then you rank near the top of the list of people I
>have encountered who need a very special prescription - the kind one can
>only get in a psychiatric hospital.


Several just in the last month in Birmingham, AL. It was in the B'ham
papers.

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:39:59 AM11/10/09
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That's a lie.

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:40:32 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:46:05 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I use it a lot when talking to conservatives because they lie a lot.

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:41:56 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:32:40 -0500, Demon Buddha <Nob...@no.where>
wrote:

>Lookout wrote:


>
>>>>>> No they are not. You hear about 'accidents' all the time.
>>>>> Due to children not being taught proper and safe handling.
>>>>>
>>>> Prove it
>>> Right after you prove the father was negligent
>>
>> There's stories every day across the US where kids bring guns to
>> school. Wouldn't you call that negligence?
>

By the way..
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS353&q=gun+middle+school&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

And now what is your excuse?

tankfixer

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:11:42 AM11/10/09
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In article <9m2if5t573rhe7o8k...@4ax.com>,

So you enjoy looking foolish do you ?

Gray Ghost

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:56:58 AM11/10/09
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tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.2563228...@news.bytemine.net:

"He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means."

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:32:45 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:11:42 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's hard to look foolish in here.

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