Re: #WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA'S IMPEACHME NT

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:06:29 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:51:34 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Patriot Act trumps everything else. All the government has to do is
>>>> invoke the word "terrorism" and they can do anything they want. Where
>>>> have you been?
>>>
>>>Protesting the Patriot Act. I even got stalked by one of the right wing
>>>dirtbags here for doing so.
>>
>> [chuckle]
>>
>> Of COURSE you did.
>>
>> But that's OK, Obama is behind it now.
>
>And I oppose him for it.

Of COURSE you do, you racist.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:19:28 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:14:02 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 05:14:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:33:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:24:44 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 21 May 2013 05:01:10 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then why do we have the other 4540 words?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>We can get to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, you don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sad, really.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, "sad, really" is just two words.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But we aren't talking about [..]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .. your inability to comprehend the Constitution?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly, we are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was three little words.
>>>>>
>>>>>Poor Klod.
>>>>
>>>> Poor, stoned little Zepp.
>>>>
>>>> Can't figure out HOW he's going to explain how the government of the
>>>> US is described in three words.
>>>
>>>Could you tell us what those three words are?
>>
>> I could.
>
>No, you apparently can't.
>>
>> Why can't you tell us how three words define the government?
>>
>> ANSWER: You can't.
>
>Sure I can.

Apparently you can't.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:


>Tell us what the first three words are. You claim America is not a
>democracy. You are lying.

I've already proven it's not.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:02:18 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:5mdpp81tqd0aml6ja...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:54:15 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 21 May 2013 05:04:02 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:03:14 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:44:31 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 04:55:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:48:20 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No disputing that. And also a representative democracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope. And that you're too stupid to understand the difference is
>>>>>>>> telling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>>>>
>>>> "You're my bitch."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [chuckle]
>>>
>>>Yes, we know what your vision for America is.
>>
>> Oh, pray, favor us with your opinion.
>>
>>>Now: what does the
>>>Constitution say?
>>
>> That's easy. The Constitution describes how our government is set up
>> and functions. I can go into more detail when you're sober.
>>
>> Um, you didn't know that?
>
>How could he when he seems unable to make it past the first three words.
>
>Indeed it's not even clear if he knows what they are since he has to keep
>asking for someone to tell them what they are.
>

He's not very bright. He keeps claiming they "define the government."
I wonder why they needed the other 4000+ words, then?

[Zepp]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:47:17 -0700, Jason wrote:

> In article <knk0j2$mk4$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Jason-22051...@66-53-220-130.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com...
>> > In article <knjp8j$qi5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"
>> > <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:hlwdjsd2-F24A0E...@news.giganews.com...
>> >> > In article <knhkg6$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:11:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <knhh7i$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:22:42 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > In article <CqWmt.8668$bK1....@newsfe11.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> >> >> >> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > news:reUmt.11860$v46....@newsfe13.iad:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/21/2013 7:17 PM, Jason wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> <snip>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Good point. I hope they have a congressional
>> >> >> >> >> >>> investigation about the AP scandal. It's just as
>> >> >> >> >> >>> serious as the IRS scandal.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Someone should write letters to Holder and Obama and
>> >> >> >> >> >>> remind them that the constitution mentions freedom of
>> >> >> >> >> >>> the press. Perhaps they have forgotten about what they
>> >> >> >> >> >>> learned about the constitution.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Your problem there is that your guy, Bush2, pushed
>> >> >> >> >> >> through the laws that make what happened to the AP
>> >> >> >> >> >> entirely legal. You knew that it was legal, right?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > So I assume your take is that since Bush did it, it makes
>> >> >> >> >> > it alright for Obama to do it? No chance that both of
>> >> >> >> >> > them are wrong?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> No, my take is that just about all of the laws passed in
>> >> >> >> >> the hysteria about terrorism, especially those that
>> >> >> >> >> restrict constitutional rights,
>> >> >> >> >> are wrong, cowardly and un-American. This is an example of
>> >> >> >> >> how we gave up freedom for almost-certainly-illusory
>> >> >> >> >> security.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Whether it's a Democratic or a Republican administration
>> >> >> >> >> doing it,
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> think it's wrong. Period.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Do you agree that Holder violated the constitution when he
>> >> >> >> > forced the AP to give the federal government their phone
>> >> >> >> > records? yes or no
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> He didn't force AP to do anything. He just simply took the
>> >> >> >> records without subpoena or AP's knowledge.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And yes, I think he violated the Constitution.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks--we are in total agreement. It was a violation of the
>> >> >> > constitution.
>> >> >> > I suggest that people write letters to Holder and Obama and
>> >> >> > advise them that the constitution grants freedom of the press.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Agreed. There's also the little matter of the Fourth Amendment,
>> >> >> which is supposed to protect the rest of us from this sort of
>> >> >> crap.

>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Patriot Act trumps everything else. All the government has to do
>> >> > is invoke the word "terrorism" and they can do anything they want.
>> >> > Where have you been?
>> >>

>> >> So you're saying the 4th Amendment no longer applies because the
>> >> government says so?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > It's my guess that Holder would answer that question by saying that
>> > the 4th Amendment no longer apples.
>> >
>> > Holder totally ignored the 4th Amendment when he tapped the phone
>> > lines of the AP reporters.
>> >
>> > Obama should fire Holder but it's my guess that Obama will not fire
>> > Holder since Holder is Obama's lap dog.
>>
>> Or he's got something good on Obama, like say proof Obama was directly
>> involved and/or informed before or during F&F.
>>
>>
> You may be correct. Holder may know lots of secrets about Obama. There
> is a rumor that Obama visiting a famous gay club in Chicago before he
> became president. Holder may know the details of Obama's visit to that
> gay club.

Nothing like a Democratic President to bring out your inner crazy, Jase.

[Zepp]

No, you've just run away. Typical fascist: you strut and cower, all at
the same time.

[Zepp]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:53:05 -0700, Jason wrote:

> In article <knjsk9$pbb$6...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:13:29 -0700, Jason wrote:
>>
>> > In article <knjpk4$s29$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"

>> > <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:5mdpp81tqd0aml6ja...@4ax.com...

>> >> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:54:15 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Tue, 21 May 2013 05:04:02 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> >> >>

>> >> >>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:03:14 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:44:31 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 04:55:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:48:20 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>> >> >>>>>>> <de...@gone.com>

>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>No disputing that. And also a representative democracy.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Nope. And that you're too stupid to understand the
>> >> >>>>>>> difference is telling.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Three little words, Klod.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Three little words, Klod.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "You're my bitch."
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> [chuckle]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Yes, we know what your vision for America is.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, pray, favor us with your opinion.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Now: what does the Constitution say?
>> >> >
>> >> > That's easy. The Constitution describes how our government is set
>> >> > up and functions. I can go into more detail when you're sober.
>> >> >
>> >> > Um, you didn't know that?
>> >>
>> >> How could he when he seems unable to make it past the first three
>> >> words.
>> >>
>> >> Indeed it's not even clear if he knows what they are since he has to
>> >> keep asking for someone to tell them what they are.
>> >>
>> >>

>> > WE, THE PEOPLE
>>
>> Yup. Poor old Klod can't bring himself to admit that, though. It's
>> been pretty funny chasing him around with it, though.
>>
>> So. there is the statement of intent for the constitution, and it is
>> formed by "We, the People". Establishing that the People are sovereign
>> in America. Not the government, certainly no church, and no
>> aristocracy. The People.
>>
>> With me so far?
>
> You may want to inform Holder that he must abide by the 4th Amendment.
> He recently violated the 4th Amendment by tapping the phone lines of
> various AP reporters.

Not according to your beloved Patriot Act.

[Zepp]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:44:49 -0700, Jason wrote:

> In article <hlwdjsd2-149560...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <Jason-22051...@66-53-220-130.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>
>> > In article <knjp8j$qi5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"
>> > <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:hlwdjsd2-F24A0E...@news.giganews.com...

>> > > > In article <knhkg6$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:11:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > In article <knhh7i$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>

>> Since the provisions of the Patriot Act that break the 4th Amendment
>> have never been found unconstitutional, they are the law of the land.
>>
>> So no law was broken.
>>
>> If you want us to think you actually care about the Constitution you
>> would have been protesting the 4th Amendment for the last 10 years. You
>> would be DEMANDING that the Act be repealed.
>>
>> I'm not seeing those protests and that demand, so your complaints are
>> nothing but hypocrisy.

>>
>> > Obama should fire Holder but it's my guess that Obama will not fire
>> > Holder since Holder is Obama's lap dog.
>>

>> Holder is nobody's lap dog. Why would you say such a vile and
>> disgusting thing?
>
> Because it's true. Otherwise, Obama would fire him for violating the 4th
> Amendment which is far more important than the Patriot Act.

The strutting clowns of the far right have been telling us the exact
opposite for the past ten years. What changed?

[Zepp]

No, they define that America is a democracy, bubbles.

You've already made an utter fool of yourself. Do you wish to be
considered a liar, too?

[Zepp]

I can't even get you to say what those three words are.

More of that conservative courage. You're great at bluster, but don't
even have enough sense to slink away quietly when you're bested.

Well, let's ask another question you can noisily run away from:

In America, who has sovereignty?

[Zepp]

Three words, Klod. Really. It can't be that hard, even for a brittle
strutter like yourself.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:22 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:02:18 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tell us what the first three words are. You claim America is not a
>>>democracy. You are lying.
>>
>> I've already proven it's not.
>
>No

Yes.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

No, they don't, as I've already proven. Once more, since you're
obviously retarded.................

And it doesn't describe the type of government, as you falsely
claimed. It doesn't describe a democracy, as you claimed.

Otherwise, I could write this:

"__ ___ ______ of the United States, hereby declare our King to be
Klaus Schadenfruede and his descendants, may he be fruitful and
multiply. His word shall be law, and the law shall be his word."

According to you, because I started it off with the Three Magical
Words, that's a democracy.

See how stupid you look now?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

That's OK. I can't get you to admit that they don't define our
government.

>More of that conservative courage.

More of that liberal stupidity.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

You.
Are.
Racist.

I forget with your limited attention span everything needs to be
presented on its most simple terms.

Meanwhile, your hero Obama is trampling rights and assassinating
Americans without due process.

And you're "protesting."

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
�Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

[Ivan Bodley]

"Zepp" wrote in message news:knlb12$2jr$1...@dont-email.me...

####
http://twitpic.com/4cac3k

Mine were :
1) Us
2) these
3) Eat.

All on the top line... with the latter looking down.

[RD Sandman]

Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in

news:hlwdjsd2-149560...@news.giganews.com:

> In article
> <Jason-22051...@66-53-220-130.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <knjp8j$qi5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:hlwdjsd2-F24A0E...@news.giganews.com...

>> > > In article <knhkg6$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>

>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:11:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> > >>

>> > >> > In article <knhh7i$4ou$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>

>> > > Patriot Act trumps everything else. All the government has to do
>> > > is invoke the word "terrorism" and they can do anything they
>> > > want. Where have you been?
>> >

>> > So you're saying the 4th Amendment no longer applies because the
>> > government says so?
>> >
>>
>> It's my guess that Holder would answer that question by saying that
>> the 4th Amendment no longer apples.
>>
>> Holder totally ignored the 4th Amendment when he tapped the phone
>> lines of the AP reporters.
>
> Since the provisions of the Patriot Act that break the 4th Amendment
> have never been found unconstitutional, they are the law of the land.
>
> So no law was broken.
>
> If you want us to think you actually care about the Constitution you
> would have been protesting the 4th Amendment for the last 10 years.
> You would be DEMANDING that the Act be repealed.
>
> I'm not seeing those protests and that demand, so your complaints are
> nothing but hypocrisy.
>
>> Obama should fire Holder but it's my guess that Obama will not fire
>> Holder since Holder is Obama's lap dog.
>
> Holder is nobody's lap dog. Why would you say such a vile and
> disgusting thing?
>

Because if he had said that Bush was Cheney's lapdog, you would be one of
the first in line lapping it up?

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

You can be young without money, but you
can't be old without it.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:ch1fp8hulacbuqh41...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 04:41:50 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
>>
>>
>>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

>>news:hlwdjsd2-A7D3FE...@news.giganews.com...
>>> In article <kn7533$hkp$2...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, Scout wrote:
> ...
>>>> > No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.
>>>>
>>>> Prove it. I'm calling you a liar.
>>>
>>> What the hell excessive spending is he talking about?
>>
>>I suppose you think Trillion dollar deficits are typical and normal?
>>
> I suppose you think that the worst recession since the great depression
> is normal.

And I'll remind you that it was Democrat "social Spending" that stretched
out said Depression for at least another decade..

[Steve]

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=4l6trj%24iq4%40news.snowcrest.net


"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38a8c8d3.16637502%40news.snowcrest.net


"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, 1996
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.misc/msg/a6fa6287419ce925?hl=en&


"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=3905050c.66719349%40news.snowcrest.net


"I -can- vote"
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=4lmnit%24eiv%40news.snowcrest.net


[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tbit3tc60l1a6c1mj89b4o285anpe11kqa%404ax.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien [David B.(Zepp) Jamieson,] a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."
http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives/index.inn?loc=detail&doc=/2003/June/04-1695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you lying and pretending to be a citizen?

[Zepp]

You sound a little desperate, Klod.

Planning on your usual tactic of screaming victory as you run away?

[SaPeIsMa]

"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA1C95909B...@216.196.121.131...

I would be more apt to consider Holder as Obama's lick-spittle
But that's because I do like Shakespearian references.

[Zepp]

They haven't proven anything.

>
> Otherwise, I could write this:
>
> "__ ___ ______ of the United States, hereby declare our King to be Klaus
> Schadenfruede and his descendants, may he be fruitful and multiply. His
> word shall be law, and the law shall be his word."

Sure, you can write it, but since the people of the United States don't
go on to cede their sovereignty to some anonymous Usenet loser in the
real constitution, it has no bearing.

Tell you what, Klod: let's make it easier for you. We'll pretend that
you worked up the courage to actually type the words "We, the People".
(Oh, I hope I didn't frighten you, Klod!).

Go on to show where, in the Constitution, the People cede their
sovereignty to anyone else; government, church, corporations,
aristocrats, anything.

[Steve]

>> ŠLee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

>
>You sound a little desperate, Klod.
>
>Planning on your usual tactic of screaming victory as you run away?

Irony anyone?

[Steve]

Perhaps wordsong can go on to show where anyone suggested that they
did?

He cannot, of course.. One of Porky Wordsong's favorite dishonest
tactics is to suggest someone prove something they never so much as
implied to exist. He does this in the hopes that it will distract
from his own stupidity.

--

"Bubbles, YOU'RE the one saying if we take money out of
general circulation, the economy will improve."
--David (Zepp) Jamieson stupidly claiming that corporate cash reserves "take money out of circulation"
.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/9d77036a53c7a52c?hl=en&dmode=source

[Scout]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-2D1D88...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-23051...@67-150-173-65.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <knkb13$rna$6...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>>
>> > On Wed, 22 May 2013 23:02:54 -0400, Scout wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:hlwdjsd2-CFE2C0...@news.giganews.com...
>> > >> In article <8C5nt.3601$Ju6....@newsfe22.iad>,

>> > >>> First, do you think the Patriot Act provision under which this was
>> > >>> made legal is constitutional? Yes or no.
>> > >>
>> > >> Until the courts say it's unconstitutional, it IS constitutional.
>> > >
>> > > Sorry, but Unconstitutionality dates from it's enactment...not when
>> > > the
>> > > courts rule it as such.
>> >
>> > It won't protect you until the court rules, though.
>> >
>> > That's why it would be nice if the idiots in Congress exercised a
>> > little
>> > bit of restraint and common sense sometimes.
>>
>> It would also be great if Holder had not had used the Patriot Act to
>> justify the bugging of the phone lines of AP reporters.
>
> Why wouldn't he use every law he's has at his disposal.
>
> You can't support a law and then turn against it when somebody you don't
> like uses it.

Whereas you do the exact opposite and claim it was vile under Bush and now
under Obama claim it's use was totally legal.

[Scout]

"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:knldh0$b8g$1...@dont-email.me...

Wow, and we're seem the same sort of thing now.....

[Free Lunch]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:47:14 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Please provide your evidence to back up this claim. I am not aware of
any economic evidence that supports it.

[Jason]

Which is more important to you? The Patriot Act or the Constitution.

We both know how Holder would answer that question. He would choose the
Patriot Act as his answer.

[Tom McDonald]

I'd like to know as well. The only thing I can think of is that
Democrats mostly ran the country during the 30's, and those were the
Depression years. Other than that, I can't think of why anyone would say
Democratic social spending did anything but help the economy. It
certainly went a long way to keeping us from going fascist or communist
during that time.

[Zepp]

He might. I don't see many Republicans speaking out against it: the
Pauls, and that's about it.

[Jason]

I hope they have Congressional hearings about this subject.

Fox News reported yesterday that a lady named CINDY THOMAS is the IRS
supervisor that was in charge of the IRS agents that targeted conservative
organizations. It appears that the liberal news media is not mentioning
Cindy Thomas in very many of their news reports. She should be fired ASAP.


<http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022854/posts?page=9>

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-23051...@67-150-126-52.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why weren't you complaining about the Patriot Act when Bush was
President and doing far worse things with it?

Your hypocrisy on this issue completely negates ANY complaint you have.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <t87tp89s4i035jarb...@4ax.com>,

Of course there's none. This is the right-wing's absolutely worst
attempt to re-write history.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

That is old news and we are now discussing the latest news. You remind me
of Obama--he blames Bush2 for every crisis that happens.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-23051...@66-53-217-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why are you trying to destroy this woman's life?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-99A331...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Because she screwed up.

When Rush Limbaugh screwed up by having his maid obtain prescription pain
medications to treat back pain, did you go after Rush Limbaugh for
screwing up?

Cindy Thomas also screwed up. The IRS agents that worked under her
targeted conservative organizations such as Tea Party organizations.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-23051...@67-150-127-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Is that any excuse to DESTROY HER LIFE? Nobody was anything more than
inconvenienced because those applications were not necessary.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-23051...@67-150-127-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Fuck you, asshole.

You NEVER said one word against Bush for doing exactly the same things
you are now trying to use against Obama. That is hypocrisy of the 1st
rank, and you should be ashamed of yourself for being such a horrible,
immoral person.

[Free Lunch]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:39:25 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

Rush Limbaugh engaged in criminal activity. You made excuses for his
crimes. You don't care that he is a drug addict because he says the evil
things you want to hear.

>Cindy Thomas also screwed up. The IRS agents that worked under her
>targeted conservative organizations such as Tea Party organizations.

So you claim, but have no evidence to back it. Why are you so proud to
support evil?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

Not as much as you are- trying to convince us all of your "protests."

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

You really *ARE* as stupid as they say, aren't you, Zeppy.

I wrote it. Therefore, according to YOU, THAT is what it means. YOU
claimed those three words tell us what kind of government we have,
remember?

Can you put down the fucking bong for just a minute?

ROFLMAO

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: #WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA'S IMPEACHME NT

Group: talk.politics.guns Date: Sun, May 19, 2013, 2:20pm (EDT-2) From:
deep
On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:18:04 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
I didn't say most or all. I said many. There are approximately 8-10
million unemployed. Do you think that they will all go work if the
handouts are removed or that perhaps many of the won't?
They would go to work IF THERE WAS ANY JOBS!
You can't expect people to be able to feed their families on jobs at
MacDonalds, or picking cherries 3 months out of the year.
Bring back the high paying manufacturing jobs and people will leave the
welfare rolls in droves, happily

====================

Not only can't count, he's also economically iliterate as well.

THERE ARE NO JOBS BECAUSE OF OBAMA.

Fewer and fewer people are woeking (the "labor participation rate" is at
it;s lowest level ever recorded). Full-time jobs are disappearing
(business owners want to avoid the hideous tax rates coming with the
implementation of Obamacare).

Many of the manufacturing jobs are gone forever. Labor unions have
overpriced American labor out of the market.

You're a businessman, needing steel. You have a limited budget, and you
need to make a profit for your shareholders.

Steel from South Korea-including shipping- is 2/3 the cost of steel from
a U.S. mill. Which do you buy?

You want a low-cost car. The Chevy Aveo, built in the U.S., or a
Hyundai, built in the U.S.

The Aveo is one of the lowest-quality cars ever rated by Consumers
Reports; the Hyundai is among the top. Which do you buy?

Sadly, our unionized manufacturers have sacrificed quality for
expediency.
The jobs aren't coming back, DooDoo. Sorry, but we have to adapt to
survive. Pining for the past won't work.

You caould participate, if only you knew how to count...

--
"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."--

Frank Zappa--

[deep]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:58:22 -0400, ogr...@webtv.net (Padraigh
ProAmerica) wrote:

>
>Re: #WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA'S IMPEACHME NT
>
>Group: talk.politics.guns Date: Sun, May 19, 2013, 2:20pm (EDT-2) From:
>deep
>On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:18:04 -0500, RD Sandman
><rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>I didn't say most or all. I said many. There are approximately 8-10
>million unemployed. Do you think that they will all go work if the
>handouts are removed or that perhaps many of the won't?
>They would go to work IF THERE WAS ANY JOBS!
>You can't expect people to be able to feed their families on jobs at
>MacDonalds, or picking cherries 3 months out of the year.
>Bring back the high paying manufacturing jobs and people will leave the
>welfare rolls in droves, happily
>
>====================
>
>Not only can't count, he's also economically iliterate as well.
>
>THERE ARE NO JOBS BECAUSE OF OBAMA.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA. Good one... just what DID Obama do to eliminate all
those jobs?

Especially those hundreds of thousands of jobs lost before he even
took office.

Need to see a graph, moron?

>
>Fewer and fewer people are woeking (the "labor participation rate" is at
>it;s lowest level ever recorded). Full-time jobs are disappearing
>(business owners want to avoid the hideous tax rates coming with the
>implementation of Obamacare).
>
>Many of the manufacturing jobs are gone forever. Labor unions have
>overpriced American labor out of the market.
>
>You're a businessman, needing steel. You have a limited budget, and you
>need to make a profit for your shareholders.
>
>Steel from South Korea-including shipping- is 2/3 the cost of steel from
>a U.S. mill. Which do you buy?
>
>You want a low-cost car. The Chevy Aveo, built in the U.S., or a
>Hyundai, built in the U.S.
>
>The Aveo is one of the lowest-quality cars ever rated by Consumers
>Reports; the Hyundai is among the top. Which do you buy?
>
>Sadly, our unionized manufacturers have sacrificed quality for
>expediency.
>The jobs aren't coming back, DooDoo. Sorry, but we have to adapt to
>survive. Pining for the past won't work.
>
>You caould participate, if only you knew how to count...

Gee, western civilization has known about zero for about 1200 years
now. What's your problem? Oh, my bad... you're just stupid.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-689AED...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

<http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1487307_The_six_Cincinnati_IRS_workers_named_.html>

I just googled "Cindy Thomas IRS supervisor should be fired" and got
millions of hits. Yes, I did use quote marks.

The IRS agents targeted conservative organizations.

I believe that was a violation of the IRS rules. She should be fired if
she allowed the IRS agents that worked for her to violate IRS rules.

You have had jobs. Would you have been fired if you intentionly violated
very important rules?

[Jason]

In article <eomup8htnn0ui6jdb...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

The IRS spokesman has admitted that the IRS targeted conservative
organizations. That's good enough for me. Is it good enough for you?

[RD Sandman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-23051...@66-53-217-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

Why? Because FOX said so? Why not let it all play out THEN critique it?

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

You can be young without money, but you
can't be old without it.

[RD Sandman]

Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in

news:hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com:

As should yours. You seem to be just like Jason only in reverse.

[RD Sandman]

Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in

news:hlwdjsd2-370EEB...@news.giganews.com:

As should you. You vent against Bush for the same behaviour you seem to
let Obama slide on. Pointing at others for the same behaviour does not
forgive either side.

[Scout]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-370EEB...@news.giganews.com...

Looks like you nailed it on the head.

[Scout]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-689AED...@news.giganews.com...

Yes, as a matter of fact it is. If you screw up doing your job then you get
fired. She should be fired.

>Nobody was anything more than
> inconvenienced because those applications were not necessary.

Really?

Does that include the consequences of LEAKED confidential information to
opposition groups?

Sorry, but having her life 'destroyed" is the least that should happen. If I
had anything to say about it not only would she be fired outright, but she
would be facing both criminal and civil suits for her violations of the 1974
Privacy Act at the very least.

However, I'm willing to listen to your reasons for why such actions should
not be taken against her.

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)

I suggest you make them good ones.

[Jason]

In article <knog0h$4dj$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"

It's possible that Cindy Thomas (IRS supervisor) was following
instructions she received from her bosses in the White House. Read this:

I read one report indicating that some liberal democrat members of
Congress that were upset about tea party group's influence told Obama and
his top aides that they should send the IRS after the tea party groups.
That leads me to believe that it is possible that the IRS supervisors such
as Cindy Thomas were following orders passed down from their bosses in the
White House.

<http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?51624-Schumer-Democrats-Urged-IRS-to-Target-Tea-Party-Groups-in-2012>

[Jason]

In article <XnsA1CA79859...@216.196.121.131>, RD Sandman

[Tom McDonald]

On 5/24/2013 1:52 PM, Jason wrote:

<snip>

> I just googled "Cindy Thomas IRS supervisor should be fired" and got
> millions of hits. Yes, I did use quote marks.

"No results found for "Cindy Thomas IRS supervisor should be fired"."

"Results for Cindy Thomas IRS supervisor should be fired (without quotes):"

Without the quotes, you get millions of hits--about 13.7 million hits.

With the quotes, you get nothing.

Learn how to do a google search, and how to report the results.

Then learn what google 'hits' mean. Hint: almost nothing.

<snip>

[Zepp]

And yet, to your immense frustration, Jeanne IS attacking Obama over this
issue.

[Tom McDonald]

On 5/24/2013 3:05 PM, Jason wrote:

<snip>

> It's possible that Cindy Thomas (IRS supervisor) was following
> instructions she received from her bosses in the White House. Read this:
>
> I read one report indicating that some liberal democrat members of
> Congress that were upset about tea party group's influence told Obama and
> his top aides that they should send the IRS after the tea party groups.
> That leads me to believe that it is possible that the IRS supervisors such
> as Cindy Thomas were following orders passed down from their bosses in the
> White House.
>
> <http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?51624-Schumer-Democrats-Urged-IRS-to-Target-Tea-Party-Groups-in-2012>
>
>

You didn't read the report if all you read was from the site you linked
to. Here is the site they took it from:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/schumer-franken-irs-tea/2013/05/18/id/505157

Go there. Read what they wrote. Notice that the headline and first
paragraph are *not* supported by the rest of the article.

IOW they lied.

You may want to stop using this link, since it (yet again) proves you wrong.

[Tom McDonald]

No:

[Jason]

In article <2OPnt.707$Y_6...@newsfe01.iad>, Tom McDonald

I believe you. Google seems to work in a different way on my mac computer.
Google in some cases automatically removes the quote marks if no results
are found.

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 13:35:57 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

And it tells you that it did it. No, it does not behave differently on a
Mac. Stop making excuses.

[RD Sandman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

That is possible but keep in mind that Just Plain Politics is a political
blog that leans right. You would not accept blog opinions from the Huffy
Post or Daily Kos would you?

[Jason]

In article <asjvp8dsve67lpnfi...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

Yes, it does but I don't always read those messages. I retried one such
search and did see the message that the quote marks had been removed. I
did not see those words during my first google search on that subject.

[Scout]

"Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...

Possible, but that, at best, might result in a mitigation of the
punishment's levied assuming she supplies complete details and documentation
so that such superior can also be dealt with.

> I read one report indicating that some liberal democrat members of
> Congress that were upset about tea party group's influence told Obama and
> his top aides that they should send the IRS after the tea party groups.
> That leads me to believe that it is possible that the IRS supervisors such
> as Cindy Thomas were following orders passed down from their bosses in the
> White House.
>
> <http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?51624-Schumer-Democrats-Urged-IRS-to-Target-Tea-Party-Groups-in-2012>

Just following order is not a defense. It might result in a reduced
sentence/fines assuming she can prove she was so ordered and by whom.
However, her career in the public sector should be over.
>

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 13:57:21 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

So, once again, it is someone else's fault that you are lazy and don't
pay attention to anything.

[linuxgal]

Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> The economy needs to be infused with money. The infrastructure of this
> country is graded D+. Putting people to work puts lots of money into the
> economy. The only entity with the money to put all those people to work
> is the federal government.

Taking fiat markers from the people who produce real wealth and giving
them to consumers to purchase a diminishing store of that wealth leads
only to runaway inflation.

[linuxgal]

Zepp wrote:
> One reason there hasn't been a massive exodus from California despite the
> tax hikes is because the extra money floating around is causing the
> economy to take off, and if taxes are up, well, profits are up even
> more.

Money is an innovation to streamline what used to happen with pure
barter. It's just markers used in exchange for things and services of
real value. Inject money into an economy at the same time you penalize
the producers and you do not cause growth. This is basic common sense.

[RD Sandman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in news:J-
qdndp4FdNOnD3Mn...@giganews.com:

Particularly when all that capital is from the private sector, not the
public one. Government is pure cost.

[Zepp]

And yet we have growth, and lo and fucking behold, the producers are
happy.

Maybe your economic reality doesn't match reality. Just the notion that
money does no more than "streamline barter" suggests it needs work.

[Jason]

In article <knonqg$fr2$1...@dont-email.me>, "Scout"

<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


> Just following order is not a defense. It might result in a reduced
> sentence/fines assuming she can prove she was so ordered and by whom.
> However, her career in the public sector should be over.
> >

<http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/brian-walsh/2013/05/14/senate-democrats-pushed-for-irs-tea-party-snooping-before-criticizing-it>

Obama reminds me of Sgt. Schultz. Sgt. Schultz was in one of the
characters in the famous television show entitled Hogan's Heroes.

Sgt. Schultz's most famous words were:

I hear nothing. I see nothing.

Obama's most famous words are:

I hear nothing. I see nothing.

I did not know anything about the IRS scandal until I read about it in the
newspaper.

Several days later we found out that all of Obama's most important aides
knew all about the IRS scandal.

Beam me up Scotty.

[Jason]

In article <l1qvp85u76nv69otk...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

Yes, I am lazy. What is your opinion about what you learn at this website:

<http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/brian-walsh/2013/05/14/senate-democrats-pushed-for-irs-tea-party-snooping-before-criticizing-it>

[SaPeIsMa]

"Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%Txnt.14815$cD1....@newsfe29.iad...
> On 5/23/2013 5:51 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:47:14 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>> news:ch1fp8hulacbuqh41...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 04:41:50 -0400, "Scout"
>>>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:hlwdjsd2-A7D3FE...@news.giganews.com...
>>>>>> In article <kn7533$hkp$2...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prove it. I'm calling you a liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the hell excessive spending is he talking about?
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose you think Trillion dollar deficits are typical and normal?
>>>>>
>>>> I suppose you think that the worst recession since the great depression
>>>> is normal.
>>>
>>> And I'll remind you that it was Democrat "social Spending" that
>>> stretched
>>> out said Depression for at least another decade..
>>
>> Please provide your evidence to back up this claim. I am not aware of
>> any economic evidence that supports it.
>>
> I'd like to know as well. The only thing I can think of is that Democrats
> mostly ran the country during the 30's, and those were the Depression
> years. Other than that, I can't think of why anyone would say Democratic
> social spending did anything but help the economy. It certainly went a
> long way to keeping us from going fascist or communist during that time.


<http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/fdr-s-policies-prolonged-depression-5409.aspx>

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why do you believe conspiracy theory garbage over fact?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why would she obey illegal orders.

And remember that the President has no power over
non-politically-appointed workers.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-24051...@67-150-173-183.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you repeating this garbage? WHO
is the asshole who put this idiotic idea in your mind? Was it Rush? Was
it Beck? Was it Savage? Was it somebody on Fox? Who was it?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

Bullshit. I have a Mac and my Google searches work as intended.

Why do you think your OS would have any effect on Google searches?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-69531C...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Was your mac made in 1995?

In some cases, google does automatically remove my quote marks.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-60567C...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

I seem to recall they played a recording on a Fox News show of Sgt.
Schultz saying "I know nothing".

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-E96C05...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

It has to do with the former IRS commissioner making over a hundred visits
to the White House. I did not write down his name. He appeared before the
congress. committee. It is suspected that he was told by someone in the
White House (perhaps Obama or one of his top ranking aides) to use the IRS
to start targeting conservative groups such as tea party groups. He may
have ordered Cindy Thomas to have some of the IRS agents working under her
to start targeting conservative groups such as tea party groups and
patriot groups.

<http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=736819>

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-40C160...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Why do you believe Schumer wanting the IRS to target tea party groups is
some sort of conspiracy theory?

Google these words:

"Schumer urged IRS to target tea party groups"

You will get thousands of hits.

[Tom McDonald]

Interesting. Not sure I am entirely swayed by one study, but this is
grist for the mill.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-23051...@67-150-126-52.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> Why weren't you complaining about the Patriot Act when Bush was
> President and doing far worse things with it?
>

Did you even bother to check before spouting your ignorant cant ?
A lot of people on the right were very upset about the Patriot Act.

>
> Your hypocrisy on this issue completely negates ANY complaint you have.
>

Your stupid strawman does NOTHING of the sort.
It's just another stupid weasel from you to redirect.

Your stupidity and dishonesty are increasing by leaps and bounds.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-70A111...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <t87tp89s4i035jarb...@4ax.com>,

> Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:47:14 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>> >"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>> >news:ch1fp8hulacbuqh41...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 04:41:50 -0400, "Scout"
>> >> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>

>> >>>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

>> >>>news:hlwdjsd2-A7D3FE...@news.giganews.com...
>> >>>> In article <kn7533$hkp$2...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>

>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, Scout wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >>>>> > No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Prove it. I'm calling you a liar.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What the hell excessive spending is he talking about?
>> >>>
>> >>>I suppose you think Trillion dollar deficits are typical and normal?
>> >>>
>> >> I suppose you think that the worst recession since the great
>> >> depression
>> >> is normal.
>> >
>> >And I'll remind you that it was Democrat "social Spending" that
>> >stretched
>> >out said Depression for at least another decade..
>>
>> Please provide your evidence to back up this claim. I am not aware of
>> any economic evidence that supports it.
>

> Of course there's none. This is the right-wing's absolutely worst
> attempt to re-write history.
>

Bzzzt
WRONG again, your ignorant cunt.
<http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/fdr-s-policies-prolonged-depression-5409.aspx>

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-99A331...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-23051...@66-53-217-232.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <knmc2v$nrc$1...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>

>> > On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:47:15 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <knlael$2jr$7...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:53:05 -0700, Jason wrote:
>> > >>

>> > >> > In article <knjsk9$pbb$6...@dont-email.me>, Zepp <de...@gone.com>

>> > He might. I don't see many Republicans speaking out against it: the
>> > Pauls, and that's about it.
>>
>> I hope they have Congressional hearings about this subject.
>>
>> Fox News reported yesterday that a lady named
>

> Why are you trying to destroy this woman's life?
>

LOL
".. destroy a woman's life.."
Are you really this fucking stupid ?

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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> In article
> <Jason-23051...@67-150-127-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-99A331...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

>> Because she screwed up.
>
> Is that any excuse to DESTROY HER LIFE? Nobody was anything more than

> inconvenienced because those applications were not necessary.
>

talk about being over the top
"destroy her life.." ???
The Tornado in Oklahoma destroyed peoples lives
At best this woman's career and her ability to harass innocent citizens by
abusing her authority will be stopped

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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> In article
> <Jason-23051...@67-150-127-203.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>

>> In article <hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article

>> > <Jason-23051...@67-150-126-52.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

>> > Why weren't you complaining about the Patriot Act when Bush was
>> > President and doing far worse things with it?
>> >

>> > Your hypocrisy on this issue completely negates ANY complaint you have.
>>

>> That is old news and we are now discussing the latest news. You remind me
>> of Obama--he blames Bush2 for every crisis that happens.
>
> Fuck you, asshole.
>
> You NEVER said one word against Bush for doing exactly the same things
> you are now trying to use against Obama.

PROVE IT you lying cunt.


> That is hypocrisy of the 1st rank, and you should be ashamed
> of yourself for being such a horrible, immoral person.

LOL
You looked in a mirror again ?
Poor baby..

>

[SaPeIsMa]

"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in

> news:hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com:

> As should yours. You seem to be just like Jason only in reverse.
>

Careful there RD
She's going to break down and cry, and accuse you of being a horrible
immoral person.
(Funny that an alleged atheist would use such an accusation..)

[SaPeIsMa]

"linuxgal" <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in message
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Don't expect someone as superficial as jd to understand that.
That's exactly how FDR stretched the depression for nearly another decade

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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There you go knee-jerking and pulling out all the boogiemen in your closet.
It's amazing how pinkies are fixated on their boogiemen and need to project
them on others.

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 18:22:27 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

That you are incredibly foolish to send me to yet another opinion piece.

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 23:44:55 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>

That speculation is not supported by the evidence or other economists.

[Zepp]

We've been hearing about this "runaway inflation" for seventy years now.

When's it gonna show up?

[SaPeIsMa]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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> In article
> <Jason-24051...@67-150-127-72.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>

>> It's possible that Cindy Thomas (IRS supervisor) was following

>> instructions she received from her bosses in the White House. Read this:

>>
>> I read one report indicating that some liberal democrat members of
>> Congress that were upset about tea party group's influence told Obama and
>> his top aides that they should send the IRS after the tea party groups.
>> That leads me to believe that it is possible that the IRS supervisors
>> such
>> as Cindy Thomas were following orders passed down from their bosses in
>> the
>> White House.
>

> Why would she obey illegal orders.

Because she's a good little ideological drone ?
Because she doesn't have the brass to refuse ?

>
> And remember that the President has no power over
> non-politically-appointed workers.
>

The President has all kinds of power, both direct and indirect.
Hell, the promise that she would be taken care of and protected if things
blow up would be good enough...
One woman got to become a US Supreme Court Justice for all the work she did
to help push through Obamacare.
And she didn't even have the decency to recuse herself when the case came to
the Supreme Court.

[SaPeIsMa]

"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in

> news:hlwdjsd2-370EEB...@news.giganews.com:

>
>>
>> You NEVER said one word against Bush for doing exactly the same things

>> you are now trying to use against Obama. That is hypocrisy of the 1st

>> rank, and you should be ashamed of yourself for being such a horrible,
>> immoral person.
>

> As should you. You vent against Bush for the same behaviour you seem to
> let Obama slide on. Pointing at others for the same behaviour does not
> forgive either side.
>

But it does bring up her hypocrisy

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 25 May 2013 08:21:12 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Bernanke knows that your claim is wrong.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 25 May 2013 08:08:41 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hlwdjsd2-CBFF39...@news.giganews.com...

...

>> Why weren't you complaining about the Patriot Act when Bush was
>> President and doing far worse things with it?
>>
>
>Did you even bother to check before spouting your ignorant cant ?
>A lot of people on the right were very upset about the Patriot Act.
>

Please name three who were speaking out against it at the time and tell
us why.

...

[Zepp]

Yes, but were you one of them?

[Scout]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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Sa was, I was, RD was.

In fact I think many people here were bitching about it more or less.

It was bad law from the git go.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:04:48 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
>

I agree that it was a bad law, but I was hoping to hear about actual
leaders whose opinions might have affected the outcome. Sadly the stupid
over-reaction let the law be passed with overwhelming support in both
the House and Senate.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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I spoke out against it, because it was another step in reducing civilian
rights and protections against government intrusion

As for anyone else. go and do your own research or ask that stupid lying
bimbo to support her claim

Better yet, do a web search for "conservatives against patriot act"
It's really not that hard to educate yourself
Too bad you never were given the tools during your "educational"
experience.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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LOL
Bernanke ?
the fool who imagines that you can spend your way out of debt, by printing
money faster than the trees for the paper can be processed
That Bernanke ?

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:15:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>

wrote in alt.atheism:

>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:vfi1q8p6v44n8s9gs...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 25 May 2013 08:21:12 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>"linuxgal" <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in message
>>>news:J-qdndp4FdNOnD3M...@giganews.com...
>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>> The economy needs to be infused with money. The infrastructure of this
>>>>> country is graded D+. Putting people to work puts lots of money into
>>>>> the
>>>>> economy. The only entity with the money to put all those people to work
>>>>> is the federal government.
>>>>
>>>> Taking fiat markers from the people who produce real wealth and giving
>>>> them to consumers to purchase a diminishing store of that wealth leads
>>>> only to runaway inflation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't expect someone as superficial as jd to understand that.
>>>That's exactly how FDR stretched the depression for nearly another decade
>>
>> Bernanke knows that your claim is wrong.
>
>
>
>LOL
>Bernanke ?
>the fool who imagines that you can spend your way out of debt, by printing
>money faster than the trees for the paper can be processed
>That Bernanke ?

Clearly you have no understanding of economics or of what Bernanke has
said.

[Scout]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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That's your problem. I'm not here to do your homework for you.