Sign of times - book "Unintended Consequences" almost sold out
edi...@netpath.net
the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left. That has created a
market in which the price for a new copy has soared from $30 to $130 -
and in which even a used copy sells for $50-60 - on auction sites such
as eBay and Amazon.
This book now sells USED for $20-30 more than the owner paid for it
new; think about that!
Anyway, it's obvious that people who never wanted it before suddenly
do now - thanks to the Black Daley.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Tim Miller
> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
> The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left.
If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
Still falling on Amazon, eh?
LOL!!
edi...@netpath.net
wrote:
Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report. That's damn
good for an 800-page-plus novel in an America whose adult population
shuns reading books in recent years - and for a book few if any mall
bookstores stock.
Tim Miller
> On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
>>> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
>>> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
>>> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
>>> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
>>> The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left.
>> If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>
> Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report.
<sarcasm -since you're too stupid to figure it out>
OHMYGOD!!! Wow!
</sarcasm>
Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
run than that.
Piss off.
edi...@netpath.net
wrote:
> Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
> run than that.
That's TEXTBOOKS - as in books guaranteed captive "customers" by the
professors at the front of the room. TEXTBOOKS always sell well for
that reason.
Other books don't generally; ask any librarian.
Tim Miller
> On Jun 14, 4:12 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
>> run than that.
>
> That's TEXTBOOKS - as in books guaranteed captive "customers" by the
> professors at the front of the room. TEXTBOOKS always sell well for
> that reason.
No, they DON'T, you ignorant fuckwit. I'm not talking
about "intro level" stuff.
> Other books don't generally; ask any librarian.
The last Harry Potter book sold 250,000 copies an HOUR when
it was released.
Face it. "Unintended Consequences" was a flop. "Curious George"
sells more copies, in spite of being 50 years old.
edi...@netpath.net
wrote:
Harry Potter was an ESTABLISHED author and of a series of KIDS' BOOKS.
That's way different from John Ross - a first-time novelist who wrote
an adult novel in "Unintended Consequences." The kids' books like Dr.
Seuss don't compete with the stuff written for their parents' age.
Tim Miller
> On Jun 14, 4:22 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> Harry Potter was an ESTABLISHED author and of a series of KIDS' BOOKS.
> That's way different from John Ross - a first-time novelist who wrote
> an adult novel in "Unintended Consequences."
Sonny, it was a flop. The ONLY reason it sells for more than
the original price is there are a few ignorant losers like you
who will buy the used copies.
I just bought a 1958 edition of "The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks" for
$400. Do you think that's because it's a particularly GREAT book?
Or because of the scarcity?
Never mind. You DON'T "think".
(Oh, and $400 was a BARGAIN!)
Ayn't Rand
news:cc2c3e16-e457-42bf...@z20g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Sounds like one of Ayn Rand's snoozers...
Too_Many_Tools
LOL...you mean an adult REPUBLICAN population who shuns reading books.
Many because they can't read.
Are their Mommies reading the book to their little Wingers for a
bedtime story?
TMT
Tim Miller
At least Republicans can read a map.
boo-radley
REPUGS be eating shit for YEARS! LOL
For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them
By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009
There has been much chatter about who now speaks for the Republican
Party, and whether the GOP has a message or an agenda to combat
President Obama's popularity. Those questions are important to the
party's future, but the most serious problem remains the deeper
demographic and political forces at work in the country.
For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been
poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with
presidential results from the past two decades. From whatever angle of
their approach -- age, race, economic status, geography -- they have
come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are
pressing the Republicans into minority status.
Republicans are still capable of winning individual elections, but
until they find a way to reverse, or at least minimize, these broader
changes in the country, their chances of returning to majority status
will be severely reduced.
The American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution
convened a stellar cast on Friday to review what has been learned
since November. The panel included Robert Lang of Virginia Tech; Ruy
Teixeira of the Center for American Progress; William Frey of the
Brookings Institution; Bill Bishop, a Texas writer and author of "The
Big Sort"; Scott Keeter of the Pew Research Center; and Ronald
Brownstein of Atlantic Media. They presented a wealth of data about
what happened in 2008 and offered conclusions that would alarm any
Republican hopeful of a quick turnaround in the party's fortunes.
Democrats have won the popular vote in four of the past five
elections, though in one case (2000) they did not end up in the White
House. In years in which they have also won the electoral vote,
Democrats have racked up sizable margins. Obama bested John McCain by
365 to 173, and Bill Clinton's two victories were in the same range.
George W. Bush's two electoral-college victories were narrow; he won
271 votes in the disputed election of 2000 and 286 in his 2004
reelection.
What has brought this about? It's not just one thing -- it's
everything. Start with the Democrats' success in the suburbs. Lang's
formula is that demography and density have combined to help
Democrats: They dominate not just the cities but also the urbanized
suburbs that contain the largest share of the suburban population in
America.
Democratic strength in the counties around Philadelphia, around
Detroit and in Northern Virginia have squeezed Republicans
dramatically. Increasingly, Republican strength outside the urban
areas counts for less. "There's just not enough rural folks and small-
city people left in America in the key states that determine the
electoral college to offset that difference," Lang said. "You're out
of people."
That's one geographical reality. The other, which became acute in
2008, is that outside the South, Republicans are in trouble. McCain
won the South in November, but Obama swept the rest of the country by
an even bigger margin. The same pattern holds now for House and Senate
seats. Republicans may continue to win governorships in Democratic-
leaning states, but in congressional and presidential elections the
geographic divides are sizable.
Brownstein reeled off a list of statistics that all arrived at the
same place: The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican
strength than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That
base is too narrow, as even Republicans know.
Demographically, the forces at work have chipped away at what was once
a GOP-leaning majority in the country. The most important is
minorities' rising share of the vote. Whites accounted for 76 percent
of the overall electorate last November, down from 85 percent in 1988.
In the last election, there were more than 2 million additional
African American voters, about 2 million more Hispanic voters and
about a million more Asian American voters. All are groups in which
Obama increased the Democratic share of the vote over 2004. Frey
estimated that minority voters in nine states made the difference in
Obama's victory margin.
Republicans can't reverse the demographic trends; their only solution
is to increase their share of the minority vote. Opposing Judge Sonia
Sotomayor, Obama's Supreme Court nominee, because of her pride in
being a Latina won't help solve that problem.
There was much attention paid to Obama's trouble winning the votes of
white working-class voters. The bad news for Republicans is that these
voters represent a declining share of the electorate.
Since 1988, that group's proportion of the national electorate has
dropped by 15 percentage points. In Pennsylvania, Teixeira reported,
it has declined by 25 percentage points. Teixeira reported that Obama
actually won the votes of working-class whites ages 25 to 29; at this
point, they appear more culturally liberal than their elders.
As the working-class vote shrinks, the college-educated vote
increases, and Democrats are gaining a greater share of these voters.
Democrats lost white college graduates by 20 percentage points in 1988
but by four points last November. That is another big reason they have
gained strength in the suburbs.
Obama's strength among young voters was a staple of coverage
throughout his bid for the White House, although as Keeter pointed
out, he could have won in November without the votes of anyone younger
than 30. But his margin was the biggest in several decades and that
alone should worry Republicans.
Obama may appeal to younger voters, but their shift toward the
Democrats predates his candidacy. "This really is not Obama," Keeter
said. "Young voters were John Kerry's best age group. They were the
Democratic candidates' best age group in the 2006 elections, and they
were the best age group for other Democratic candidates in 2008."
Younger voters are more diverse demographically than older voters. In
2008, 62 percent were white, compared with 74 percent eight years
earlier. Projections show young voters will become increasingly
diverse. They are also less religious and more culturally liberal, two
indicators of Democratic support.
GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
Curly Surmudgeon
Thanks for that affirmation of what we've been saying.
The Republican Party is on the verge of irrelevancy. I'd trace this back
to the Nixon era when Republicans wooed the Dixicrats to overcome the
Democrat majority. It worked, for a few years, now look at the result.
Dixicrats have taken control of the Republican Party forcing out
moderates and true conservatives.
Two senarios exist, either the Dixicrats kick out the few remaining sane
Republicans and become the American Taliban or traditional Republicans
and conservatives kick out the wackos.
In the first case I invite traditional Republicans and true conservatives
to join the Libertarian Party so the Republicans can join the Whigs in
history.
Many Democrats vote that way solely because the Republicans offer such
detestable candidates. As the article above implies, Obama didn't "win"
in 2008, the Republicans lost.
--
Regards, Curly
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Now it's time for War Crime Trials at the Hague for Bush/Cheney
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edi...@netpath.net
> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
revolt doesn't become general long before. With nobody else now in
charge in the regime but the Democrats, the public doesn't have anyone
but Democrats to blame for a shitty and worsening economy - and will
kick out the Democrats in next fall's congressional election.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Jeff Mc
Although Obama was obviously a popular candidate, it would be a mistake
to credit the overwhelming Democrat victory to the inherent appeal to
the voters of their rhetoric, platform or ideas. Much of it was due to
voter backlash against several years of Republican dominance.
Tim Miller
> On Jun 14, 4:57 pm, boo-radley <mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
>> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
>> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
>> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
>> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
>> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
>> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
>
> And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
> revolt doesn't become general long before.
NO "revolt", pinhead. You idiots don't have the balls.
Curly Surmudgeon
Precisely. Keeping Sara Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Sean Hannity,
Ann Coulter in the spotlight speaking for the Republicans is a sheer
certainty to drive away any remaining rational Republican voters.
America is beginning to recognize that neither Republicans nor Democrats
represent the voter, witness the rise of independents. The meme of
voting for the lesser of two evils is a very difficult idea to knock out
of peoples heads but finally voters are recognizing that a "Gore/Bush"
limit on governorship isn't democracy.
Obama didn't win, Republicans lost. When a better candidate comes along
I expect Democrats to likewise abandon their party. Only then will
America win.
martin
> On Jun 14, 3:10 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> > > edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> > > > It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
> > > > the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
> > > > novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
> > > > through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
> > > > The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left.
>
> > > If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>
> > Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report. That's damn
> > good for an 800-page-plus novel in an America whose adult population
> > shuns reading books in recent years - and for a book few if any mall
> > bookstores stock.
>
>
> LOL...you mean an adult REPUBLICAN population who shuns reading books.
>
> Many because they can't read.
>
> Are their Mommies reading the book to their little Wingers for a
> bedtime story?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Begging your pardon, the Democratic Party has captured the least
literate elements
in our society, negroes and mestizoes.
Martin
Jeff Mc
The next really big "independent" candidate will likely, in my guessing,
be a fairly well-known member one of the two major parties, leading a
major schism or failed coup into new, centrist semi-party/movement that
also attracts a number of disaffected voters from the other major party.
He or she may not win, but will come close enough to at least cause some
major changes in both parties, and politics in general. When the time
comes, if it comes, it will be a real "change."
We are reaching a breaking point in the nation and in the coalitions the
two major parties represent, and neither main party is really serving
their purpose very well any longer. Neither Bush nor Obama seems to be
or have been the kind of leader the other side can even grudgingly get
behind, the parties have moved pretty far apart ideologically, trouble
is mounting, and there is a large measure of partisanship-fatigue
building. It is a recipe for sweeping political change.
Some people think this means a sort of strong arm takeover of the levers
of government by one extreme or the other, others see violence or
revolution ahead, and not a few fear (or welcome) societal collapse,
chaos and anarchy. But I see major change occurring within the envelope
of constitutional process. I consider our constitution far more robust
and accommodating than many give it credit for. For example, many key
aspects of modern politics that are most in need of reform, such as many
party/partisan and campaign/electoral practices, Legislative procedural
rules Executive functions, not related to any constitutional
requirement, and could be swiftly changed.
The major issues I see coming are, very broadly, are who pays the
freight and who calls the shots. The Republicans are on to something
about a tax rebellion, but that may head in a direction they don't
intend, if people start taking a good hard look at where taxes really
come from today, compared to past, more prosperous and secure eras,
and/or take a clean slate approach to tax reform. Likewise, if the
Democrats ever get serious about effective lobbying, campaign financing
and corporate speech reform, the country could veer in an entirely new,
maybe scarier, direction as something else replaces what we had before.
hal
>On Jun 14, 4:57�pm, boo-radley <mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
>> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
>> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
>> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
>> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
>> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
>> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
>
>And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
>revolt doesn't become general long before. With nobody else now in
>charge in the regime but the Democrats, the public doesn't have anyone
>but Democrats to blame for a shitty and worsening economy
Wrong again. This trashed economy is due to the right wing. This is
Bush's depression. Obama cannot stop the train wreck. But no way no
how has anything Obama has done has cause this economic disaster. It
was started years ago, under Bush.
Basil Karlo
"hal" wrote in message news:t11b35lvjgb71ekoh...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 14, 4:57 pm, boo-radley <mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
>>> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
>>> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
>>> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
>>> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
>>> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
>>> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
>>
>>And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
>>revolt doesn't become general long before. With nobody else now in
>>charge in the regime but the Democrats, the public doesn't have anyone
>>but Democrats to blame for a shitty and worsening economy
>
> Wrong again. This trashed economy is due to the right wing. This is
> Bush's depression. Obama cannot stop the train wreck. But no way no
> how has anything Obama has done has cause this economic disaster. It
> was started years ago, under Bush.
>
What crap. If Bush was still President the economy would be chugging right
along because people wouldn't have lost confidence the way they did when
they heard Obama actually had a shot. Obama said he would fix the economy,
Curly said he could do it in 6 months. That gives him about 40 days to turn
this ship around, otherwise we should have just stayed the course.
greyl...@gmail.com
>On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
><edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 14, 4:57�pm, boo-radley <mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
>>> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
>>> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
>>> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
>>> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
>>> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
>>> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
>>
>>And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
>>revolt doesn't become general long before. With nobody else now in
>>charge in the regime but the Democrats, the public doesn't have anyone
>>but Democrats to blame for a shitty and worsening economy
>
>Wrong again. This trashed economy is due to the right wing. This is
>Bush's depression. Obama cannot stop the train wreck. But no way no
>how has anything Obama has done has cause this economic disaster. It
>was started years ago, under Bush.
>
It really IS possible for someone to be too stupid to see what is
right in front of them. Who'da thunk it...................???
Curly Surmudgeon
That is the more popular viewpoint but I must mention "Ross Perot."
After Perot scared the beejebus out of both parties regulations and
restrictions were enacted to prevent any third party candidate from ever
rising or challenging the two party stranglehold.
> We are reaching a breaking point in the nation and in the coalitions the
> two major parties represent, and neither main party is really serving
> their purpose very well any longer. Neither Bush nor Obama seems to be
> or have been the kind of leader the other side can even grudgingly get
> behind, the parties have moved pretty far apart ideologically, trouble
> is mounting, and there is a large measure of partisanship-fatigue
> building. It is a recipe for sweeping political change.
Agreed. I'd rather your prediction come true than mine but I just don't
see it happening peacefully. The hatred, bile, and fury of the radical
right religionists will prevent any peaceful solution. They are waging a
cultural war, not engaging in consensus. It's their way or the highway.
My question is, do we permit these wackos to drag America down to open
revolution and perhaps dissolution or do we finally confront them and put
them in their place?
> Some people think this means a sort of strong arm takeover of the levers
> of government by one extreme or the other, others see violence or
> revolution ahead, and not a few fear (or welcome) societal collapse,
> chaos and anarchy.
Many think that. Some even think that voting for the absolute worst
candidate is a solution in bringing down the system.
> But I see major change occurring within the envelope
> of constitutional process. I consider our constitution far more robust
> and accommodating than many give it credit for. For example, many key
> aspects of modern politics that are most in need of reform, such as many
> party/partisan and campaign/electoral practices, Legislative procedural
> rules Executive functions, not related to any constitutional
> requirement, and could be swiftly changed.
Not with the graft, corruption and bribery that private financing of the
political system encourages. Perhaps if we enact public-only financing,
dramatically reduced campaign time, and draconian punishment for
violations.
> The major issues I see coming are, very broadly, are who pays the
> freight and who calls the shots. The Republicans are on to something
> about a tax rebellion, but that may head in a direction they don't
> intend, if people start taking a good hard look at where taxes really
> come from today, compared to past, more prosperous and secure eras,
> and/or take a clean slate approach to tax reform. Likewise, if the
> Democrats ever get serious about effective lobbying, campaign financing
> and corporate speech reform, the country could veer in an entirely new,
> maybe scarier, direction as something else replaces what we had before.
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. Regrettably.
edi...@netpath.net
> Ummmm...you predicted the revolt would start in earnest about three
> weeks ago. I'm not to impressed when an old man shooting a security
> guard is one of the major battles.
I predicted it would be shortly after JUNE 1 - the deadline that the
Black Daley had given General Motors to file bankruptcy, as
dispossessed auto workers and auto-industry retirees would start
leaderless resistance out of the auto-plant Midwest and parts-plant
Mid-South. So far, it's two weeks later - and the liberal elites are
publicly saying that the killing of a late-term abortionist in the
Midwest and a black rent-a-cop in Washington were the first part or at
least the most-visible part of what they termed a "war" by the Right.
CNN yesterday analogized von Brunn to an Iraqi suicide bomber.
If you assume the obvious - that a tipping point now really has been
reached, with an incident (if an abysmally-planned one) - teaching all
the other very-old and terminally-ill people that they really do have
nothing to lose by going on the attack in leaderless resistance, the
next month should be extremely interesting. Because von Brunn taught
MILLIONS of very-old people having trouble paying their bills now that
they have nothing to lose by going on the attack - at the same time
that Wall Street's problems have their retirement assets and
retirement checks sharply reduced.
edi...@netpath.net
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:50:50 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> predict a date if the date meant nothing? You do realize that you are
> sounding like a religious cultist after the doomsday date passed and
> nothing happened don't you?
JULY 1 will be a month after the date I predicted. Let us all know
then if I was wrong. And - even if I was wrong by two months - will
it matter if the revolt starts two months later?
Ayn't Rand
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>
>
> "hal" wrote in message news:t11b35lvjgb71ekoh...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 14, 4:57 pm, boo-radley <mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
>>>> Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
>>>> reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
>>>> Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
>>>> the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
>>>> will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
>>>> a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
>>>
>>>And that's how the Republicans will take back Congress next fall - IF
>>>revolt doesn't become general long before. With nobody else now in
>>>charge in the regime but the Democrats, the public doesn't have anyone
>>>but Democrats to blame for a shitty and worsening economy
>>
>> Wrong again. This trashed economy is due to the right wing. This is
>> Bush's depression. Obama cannot stop the train wreck. But no way no
>> how has anything Obama has done has cause this economic disaster. It
>> was started years ago, under Bush.
>>
>
> What crap. If Bush was still President the economy would be chugging right
The economy and the market started to crash in 2007, and the seeds of this
depression were sown earlier than that, dumbass. You were just too stoned,
drunk and stupid to notice.
Tim Miller
> predict a date if the date meant nothing? You do realize that you are
> sounding like a religious cultist after the doomsday date passed and
> nothing happened don't you?
He's like the "Nostradamus" fans... AFTER the fact, he'll relate
EVERYTHING that happens to some generic "prediction" he claims to
have made. When, in truth, there's no connection at all.
edi...@netpath.net
<Atlas_Far...@objectivistsRmorons.com> wrote:
> The economy and the market started to crash in 2007, and the seeds of this
> depression were sown earlier than that, dumbass. You were just too stoned,
> drunk and stupid to notice.
In many ways, the economy HAS been crashing for 15+ years. Massive
downsizings on a weekly basis started back about 15 years ago. Middle-
class houses became nearly unsellable for anywhere near their nominal
- or tax-assessed - value three years ago. The drastic shrinkage of
the percentage of working-age Americans actually working full-time has
gone on over decades.
But, still, you can't deny that NEVER before did one - much less two -
of the Big Three file bankruptcy until the past several months, and
that in decades no major mall landlord filed bankruptcy until the last
several months, that the malls didn't empty out until the last several
months, and that long-busy restaurants weren't suddenly empty until
the last several months. And that's why it's the Obama Depression.
The only thing missing - so far - is "Obamavilles" of formerly-middle-
class people everywhere.
Liberal
> On Jun 14, 4:22 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> Harry Potter was an ESTABLISHED author and of a series of KIDS' BOOKS.
> That's way different from John Ross - a first-time novelist who wrote
> Seuss don't compete with the stuff written for their parents' age.
>
> http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Ahhhhhhh, but they both wrote about crazy fantasies in which magic
worked. Rowlings was the better writer.
BTW, you and your buddy hate America so much, why don't you move to
Somalia and create your own little slice of heaven? After all, the
citizens of Somalia would probably welcome any change over what they
have now.
Gosh, you could be the Jefferson Davis of Somalian history. Welllll,
"Mrs. Jefferson Davis" fer sure.....
Bert Hyman
news:2c4476d5-d46d-468e...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com
Liberal <liber...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> BTW, you and your buddy hate America so much, why don't you move to
> Somalia and create your own little slice of heaven?
Gee... I don't think I've heard "America; love it or leave it" in some
few decades.
Of course back then, the suggestion was for you and your crowd to take a
hike.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Gunner Asch
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>edi...@netpath.net wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
>>>> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
>>>> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
>>>> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
>>>> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
>>>> The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left.
>>> If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>>
>> Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report.
>
><sarcasm -since you're too stupid to figure it out>
>OHMYGOD!!! Wow!
></sarcasm>
>
>Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
>run than that.
>
>Piss off.
Dug em out of the dumpster at the end of a college year eh?
What do you use them for? Obviously its not reference.
Maybe something to hold your "art" flat as the finger paints dry?
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Gunner Asch
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>edi...@netpath.net wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 4:22 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> Harry Potter was an ESTABLISHED author and of a series of KIDS' BOOKS.
>> That's way different from John Ross - a first-time novelist who wrote
>> an adult novel in "Unintended Consequences."
>
>Sonny, it was a flop. The ONLY reason it sells for more than
>the original price is there are a few ignorant losers like you
>who will buy the used copies.
>
>I just bought a 1958 edition of "The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks" for
>$400. Do you think that's because it's a particularly GREAT book?
>Or because of the scarcity?
>
>Never mind. You DON'T "think".
>
>(Oh, and $400 was a BARGAIN!)
To an boozer its maybe a "BARGAIN"
Gunner Asch
<mpmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>REPUGS be eating shit for YEARS! LOL
>
>For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them
>
>By Dan Balz
>Sunday, June 14, 2009
Just out of curiosity..who is buying all the guns and ammo these days?
Leftists?
I have an idea that there will be far far far fewer of them in 2.3-3 yrs
so your buffoonery means nothing.
Shrug
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Since the Demonrats took control of Congress in that year..its proof
that its not Bush's or the Right's fault.
Thanks for the confirmation that its the fault of the Left.
tv
wrote:
> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 4:12 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
> >> run than that.
>
> > professors at the front of the room. TEXTBOOKS always sell well for
> > that reason.
>
> No, they DON'T, you ignorant fuckwit. I'm not talking
> about "intro level" stuff.
>
> > Other books don't generally; ask any librarian.
>
> The last Harry Potter book sold 250,000 copies an HOUR when
> it was released.
>
> Face it. "Unintended Consequences" was a flop. "Curious George"
> sells more copies, in spite of being 50 years old.
Flop? You probably consider "Uncle Toms Cabin" to be a flop.
tv
<Atlas_Far...@objectivistsRmorons.com> wrote:
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
>
> news:cc2c3e16-e457-42bf...@z20g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> > > It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
> > > the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
> > > novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
> > > through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
> > > The publisher has fewer than 1,000 copies left.
>
> > If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>
> good for an 800-page-plus novel in an America whose adult population
> shuns reading books in recent years - and for a book few if any mall
> bookstores stock.
>
"Unintended Consequences is a novel by author John Ross, first
published in 1996 by Accurate Press. The lengthy (863 pages) story
chronicles the history of the gun culture, gun rights and gun control
in the United States from the early 1900s through the late 1990s.
Although clearly a work of fiction, the story is heavily laced with
accurate historical information, including real-life figures who play
minor supporting roles. The novel also features unusually detailed and
intricate facts, figures and explanations of many firearms-related
topics. The cover has a picture of Lady Justice being assaulted by a
BATFE agent."
Sounds like it might be an interesting read to me.
edi...@netpath.net
> BTW, you and your buddy hate America so much, why don't you move to
> Somalia and create your own little slice of heaven?
If I emigrate, it's going to be to Sicily - homeland of my father's
ancestors, place where my culture dominates - NOT to some nation-size
black slum. After all, anyone in America wanting to live in a black
slum can probably find more than one right in his own state.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
RD (The Sandman)
news:ef7fa754-6417-4d3f...@o5g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jun 14, 1:43�pm, "Ayn't Rand"
> <Atlas_Far...@objectivistsRmorons.com> wrote:
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cc2c3e16-e457-42bf...@z20g2000prh.googlegroups.com
>> ... On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
It is a good read. Keep in mind, however, that although it has a plot,
an idealogy and an ending that may appeal to several in here, keep in
mind that it is fiction and the characters in it respond as the author
wants, not the way they may have responded in real life.
--
Sleep well, tonight........
RD (The Sandman)
" All experience is great provided you live through it.
If it kills you, you have gone too far."
Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
z
> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
leaderless being the key word here.
z
> > Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
> > run than that.
>
> That's TEXTBOOKS - as in books guaranteed captive "customers" by the
> professors at the front of the room. TEXTBOOKS always sell well for
> that reason.
ya think the professor has 60,000 quantum mechanics students? were you
that guy in the back of the room going "what???" all the time?
z
> On Jun 14, 4:22 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> Harry Potter was an ESTABLISHED author and of a series of KIDS' BOOKS.
> That's way different from John Ross - a first-time novelist who wrote
> an adult novel in "Unintended Consequences."
well, it's one for two then.
z
> To an boozer its maybe a "BARGAIN"
>
> "Lenin called them "useful idiots,"
gunner, i love ya, but ya gotta learn to proofread before sending!!!!!
Tim Miller
Clueless, however, probably being more appropriate.
edi...@netpath.net
@comcast.net> wrote:
> > "Unintended Consequences is a novel by author John Ross, first
> > published in 1996 by Accurate Press. The lengthy (863 pages) story
> > chronicles the history of the gun culture, gun rights and gun control
> > in the United States from the early 1900s through the late 1990s.
> > Although clearly a work of fiction, the story is heavily laced with
> > accurate historical information, including real-life figures who play
> > minor supporting roles. The novel also features unusually detailed and
> > intricate facts, figures and explanations of many firearms-related
> > topics. The cover has a picture of Lady Justice being assaulted by a
> > BATFE agent."
>
> > Sounds like it might be an interesting read to me.
>
> It is a good read. Keep in mind, however, that although it has a plot,
> an idealogy and an ending that may appeal to several in here, keep in
> mind that it is fiction and the characters in it respond as the author
> wants, not the way they may have responded in real life.
Think of "Unintended Consequences" as like a war game or chess set.
In it, wargamed out is what WOULD happen if a hidebound traditional
military power - used to a World War II template of victory through
airpower - found itself facing a leaderless resistance by poorly-
equipped locals forcing it into what it was poor at: rifle warfare.
And that wargamed scenario is exactly what's played out in Iraq since
the regime occupied it. The locals - suddenly poor - got fucking fed
up with an occupation they might otherwise have tolerated, and started
leaderless resistance using rifles and the occasional bazooka. That
leaderless resistance proved undefeatable as the regime kept trying to
use World War II-template airpower to defeat an insurgency which
lacked factories and big cities worth bombing.
RD (The Sandman)
4172-9b23-6...@z8g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
I rather doubt that in the case of Ross' bok that the government would
have used WWII tactics. It kinda upsets the populace when you nuke
Chicago simply to get a few dissidents.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Spelling errors? proof read what?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
using neutron bombs and then simply bulldozzing the dead into mass
graves. Chicago is architecurally a nice place. Unfortunately its
filled with the most vile sorts of creatures.
Think of it as killing off the vermin and making it suitable for good
people.
I hope Glickman leaves before they drop the bombs.
Gunner Asch
And you will still be dead.
And most on the Right will be alive.
Tim Miller
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:40:14 -0400, Tim Miller
> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> z wrote:
>>> On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
>>>> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
>>>> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
>>>> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
>>> leaderless being the key word here.
>> Clueless, however, probably being more appropriate.
>
>
> And you will still be dead.
No, sonny, I won't. Because all you pathetic losers will
still be sitting on your beer-stained Lazyboy, typing with
one hand while you view porn over your stolen internet
connection.
It's sad, really.
edi...@netpath.net
> And most on the Right will be alive.
You just hinted at something very important here - the MATH. Who runs
out of "troops" first in any leaderless resistance insurgency - the
angry occupied people, or the occupier? (Hint: is Monica Lewinsky or
Jenna Bush likely interested in going down South to keep the South
subjugated by force?) Can the regime really fight *three* major
counterinsurgencies at once - with one of them in the source of its
food, its heating fuel, and its own frontline combat troops?
Gunner Asch
<replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
So you continue to snip and whittle away the things you dont like?
Typical of the symptoms you consistantly display.
I think Ill start using it on you.
robert bowman
> Spelling errors? proof read what?
You could have used an apostrophe in 'its', but that is pretty trivial
around this oasis of literacy.
robert bowman
> Sounds like it might be an interesting read to me.
If nothing else, you'll know who Ad Topperwein was.
Gunner Asch
>On Jun 15, 5:33�pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>> And most on the Right will be alive.
>
>You just hinted at something very important here - the MATH. Who runs
>out of "troops" first in any leaderless resistance insurgency - the
>angry occupied people, or the occupier? (Hint: is Monica Lewinsky or
>Jenna Bush likely interested in going down South to keep the South
>subjugated by force?) Can the regime really fight *three* major
>counterinsurgencies at once - with one of them in the source of its
>food, its heating fuel, and its own frontline combat troops?
>
Excellent questions all
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 15 Jun 2009
14:32:19 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>I rather doubt that in the case of Ross' bok that the government would
>>have used WWII tactics. It kinda upsets the populace when you nuke
>>Chicago simply to get a few dissidents.
>
>But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
>using neutron bombs
Gack, no. I mean the idea as sold by liberals sounds nice, but
the reality is that an "enhanced radiation device" (Aka "neutron
bomb") is an inefficient thermonuclear bomb.
Your standard Nuke has a fission trigger, a fusion 'main' charge,
and the whole is "wrapped" in Uranium which captures some of the
neutron flux produced by the previous two events, fisses and adds more
"ompf" to the whole extravagance. (Picture it as a firebomb with a
combustible casing.) A Neuron Bomb merely eliminates the U-238 wrap.
Not as much bang bust still a lot.
One oaf the reasons I prefer non-persistent chemical agents. Or a
good old fashioned siege.
> and then simply bulldozzing the dead into mass
>graves. Chicago is architecurally a nice place. Unfortunately its
>filled with the most vile sorts of creatures.
>
>Think of it as killing off the vermin and making it suitable for good
>people.
>
>I hope Glickman leaves before they drop the bombs.
Me too.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Curly Surmudgeon
> I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 15 Jun 2009
> 14:32:19 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>>I rather doubt that in the case of Ross' bok that the government would
>>>have used WWII tactics. It kinda upsets the populace when you nuke
>>>Chicago simply to get a few dissidents.
>>
>>But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
>>using neutron bombs
>
> Gack, no. I mean the idea as sold by liberals sounds nice, but
> the reality is that an "enhanced radiation device" (Aka "neutron bomb")
> is an inefficient thermonuclear bomb.
> Your standard Nuke has a fission trigger, a fusion 'main' charge,
> and the whole is "wrapped" in Uranium which captures some of the neutron
> flux produced by the previous two events, fisses and adds more "ompf" to
> the whole extravagance. (Picture it as a firebomb with a combustible
> casing.) A Neuron Bomb merely eliminates the U-238 wrap. Not as much
> bang bust still a lot.
>
> One oaf the reasons I prefer non-persistent chemical agents. Or a
> good old fashioned siege.
Sieges rarely work. When they do they often cost the attacking force
more than they gain by overcoming ramparts. The neutron bomb is an
excellent solution, cheap, reliable, little residual radiation.
The only problem is a commander in chief with the balls to use it hasn't
existed. Yet. Bush didn't or Tora Bora would have been eradicated and
Obama has already stated that he will use diplomacy and wants to end all
nuclear weapons.
The Neutron Bomb is a marvelous tool but a scalpel, not a sledge hammer,
and must be used with extreme caution. I've only seen two instances in
which I'd have used it, Tora Bora in 2001 and Hanoi in 1967. But it
didn't exist in 1967...
>> and then simply bulldozzing the dead into mass
>>graves. Chicago is architecurally a nice place. Unfortunately its
>>filled with the most vile sorts of creatures.
>>
>>Think of it as killing off the vermin and making it suitable for good
>>people.
>>
>>I hope Glickman leaves before they drop the bombs.
>
> Me too.
>
> -
> pyotr filipivich.
> Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel, you
> find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now it's time for War Crime Trials at the Hague for Bush/Cheney
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Cole Firearms Inc.
I've said it many times, nuking chicago is a great idea!!
--
�Cannibalism, it�s not just for the foodie.� -- Rev. Shawn Cole
Gray Ghost
216.250.184.7:
> In
> news:2c4476d5-d46d-468e...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com
> Liberal <liber...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, you and your buddy hate America so much, why don't you move to
>> Somalia and create your own little slice of heaven?
>
> Gee... I don't think I've heard "America; love it or leave it" in some
> few decades.
>
> Of course back then, the suggestion was for you and your crowd to take a
> hike.
>
We shoulda bought them tickets.
--
Always remember:
Bull Connor was a Democrat!
edi...@netpath.net
> I keep telling you. It's the left buying the guns and ammo so they
> cap your sorry ass if you ever poke your pointy little head out from
> behind your keyboard.
You think Monica Lewinsky's parents - big donors to the Democrat Party
and residents of core urban Blue Nation, which is what got their kid
that internship - even know how to load an AK-47 or AR-15? If they've
ever handled any gun at all, it was a .22 single-shot rifle way back
when they were kids in summer camp - and soon forgot about, or an
expensive double-barrel trap shotgun, not the kind of guns really
suited to combat.
edi...@netpath.net
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:40:01 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >> And most on the Right will be alive.
>
> >You just hinted at something very important here - the MATH. Who runs
> >out of "troops" first in any leaderless resistance insurgency - the
> >angry occupied people, or the occupier? (Hint: is Monica Lewinsky or
> >Jenna Bush likely interested in going down South to keep the South
> >subjugated by force?) Can the regime really fight *three* major
> >counterinsurgencies at once - with one of them in the source of its
> >food, its heating fuel, and its own frontline combat troops?
>
> you, I'll change jobs. It's not often that one gets to make money and
> have fun at the same time.
Moment you find you're going up against rednecks who've been good
shots since before turning teenagers - even if female - will be moment
you quit that job. IF you're lucky. You'd be going up against
longtime deer hunters expert at making themselves invisible to an
animal with far better senses than any human since they were kids -
and you'd be going up against them on their home turf, in their home
counties you'd never been in and don't even know the roads in.
Gunner Asch
>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 15 Jun 2009
>14:32:19 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>>I rather doubt that in the case of Ross' bok that the government would
>>>have used WWII tactics. It kinda upsets the populace when you nuke
>>>Chicago simply to get a few dissidents.
>>
>>But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
>>using neutron bombs
>
> Gack, no. I mean the idea as sold by liberals sounds nice, but
>the reality is that an "enhanced radiation device" (Aka "neutron
>bomb") is an inefficient thermonuclear bomb.
> Your standard Nuke has a fission trigger, a fusion 'main' charge,
>and the whole is "wrapped" in Uranium which captures some of the
>neutron flux produced by the previous two events, fisses and adds more
>"ompf" to the whole extravagance. (Picture it as a firebomb with a
>combustible casing.) A Neuron Bomb merely eliminates the U-238 wrap.
>Not as much bang bust still a lot.
>
> One oaf the reasons I prefer non-persistent chemical agents. Or a
>good old fashioned siege.
Chemical agents would be good..Sarin, VX, Nomax..the usual..but the wind
off the lake would require exquisite timing to get em all, or even most
of them.
The siege would require a Stalingrad building to building mass invasion
and the piling up of Libtard bodies at intersections for removal.
Simply firebombing Chi would be more efficent and far more effective.
So lets simply nuke the place and in a couple years..it would provide a
good Public Works project filling in the holes and leveling out the
ground.
>
>> and then simply bulldozzing the dead into mass
>>graves. Chicago is architecurally a nice place. Unfortunately its
>>filled with the most vile sorts of creatures.
>>
>>Think of it as killing off the vermin and making it suitable for good
>>people.
>>
>>I hope Glickman leaves before they drop the bombs.
>
>Me too.
>
>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
Gray Ghost
news:rhfe35dnun46meqlk...@4ax.com:
One word. Arclight.
Gunner Asch
Indeed! Im all for it!
Gunner
Tim Miller
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:37:34 -0400, Tim Miller
> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:40:14 -0400, Tim Miller
>>> <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> z wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>>>> It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
>>>>>> the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
>>>>>> novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
>>>>>> through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
>>>>> leaderless being the key word here.
>>>> Clueless, however, probably being more appropriate.
>>>
>>> And you will still be dead.
>> No, sonny, I won't. Because all you pathetic losers will
>> still be sitting on your beer-stained Lazyboy, typing with
>> one hand while you view porn over your stolen internet
>> connection.
>>
>> It's sad, really.
>
> So you continue to snip and whittle away the things you dont like?
It's called "netiquette". I snip away the parts I'm not
bothering to respond to. You got a problem with that, coward?
Klaus Schadenfreude
>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 15 Jun 2009
>14:32:19 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>>I rather doubt that in the case of Ross' bok that the government would
>>>have used WWII tactics. It kinda upsets the populace when you nuke
>>>Chicago simply to get a few dissidents.
>>
>>But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
>>using neutron bombs
>
> Gack, no. I mean the idea as sold by liberals sounds nice, but
>the reality is that an "enhanced radiation device" (Aka "neutron
>bomb") is an inefficient thermonuclear bomb.
> Your standard Nuke has a fission trigger, a fusion 'main' charge,
>and the whole is "wrapped" in Uranium which captures some of the
>neutron flux produced by the previous two events, fisses and adds more
>"ompf" to the whole extravagance. (Picture it as a firebomb with a
>combustible casing.) A Neuron Bomb merely eliminates the U-238 wrap.
>Not as much bang bust still a lot.
>
> One oaf the reasons I prefer non-persistent chemical agents. Or a
>good old fashioned siege.
You don't see a good siege any more, and they seem so effective.
edi...@netpath.net
> the human body close up.
While a rich liberal with his $10,000 trap double was reloading
clumsily after his second round, some redneck with a cheap pump-action
of the kind probably everyone in Red Nation has could fire five
times. While a rich liberal with his $10,000 trap double was clumsily
reloading, a redneck with a cheap SKS or AK-47 could shoot 20 rounds.
Again, it's MATH.
The strategic balance is all in the rednecks' favor. Are the rich
liberals of core urban Blue Nation really going to go deep into
hostile Red Nation to scrounge food and keep the natural gas flowing -
no matter how well-skilled they are? Will it be possible to keep the
fuel and food that core urban Blue Nation is totally dependent on
continuously coming from hundreds of miles away in hostile territory?
Srebrenica won't have to be replayed to make core urban Blue Nation
collapse; all that Red Nation will have to do to force concession is
quit shipping the natural gas, coal, and food - as you wouldn't want
to be in New York City or Chicago when there wasn't any tasty food for
the Food Stamp people to buy.
RD (The Sandman)
news:47FZl.13390$im1....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:
But not to get a few dissidents. ;)
--
Sleep well, tonight........
RD (The Sandman)
" All experience is great provided you live through it.
If it kills you, you have gone too far."
Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
RD (The Sandman)
4d2a-bb83-a...@r37g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
I'm a liberal who's been around guns for over fifty years. I have hunted
with a rifle, a bow and handguns and I am ex-military. Not all liberals
faint when confronted by overdue library books.
Jeff Mc
>> Moment you find you're going up against rednecks who've been good
>> shots since before turning teenagers - even if female - will be moment
>> you quit that job. IF you're lucky. You'd be going up against
>> longtime deer hunters expert at making themselves invisible to an
>> animal with far better senses than any human since they were kids -
>> and you'd be going up against them on their home turf, in their home
>> counties you'd never been in and don't even know the roads in.
>
> I'm a liberal who's been around guns for over fifty years. I have hunted
> with a rifle, a bow and handguns and I am ex-military. Not all liberals
> faint when confronted by overdue library books.
I recall one female MP sergeant of my acquaintance, from many years ago,
probably lesbian and certainly a flaming liberal, who was the most
natural, stone cold killer and deadly shot with either a machine gun or
grenade launcher that I ever met. She scared everybody, including some
old NCOs with combat tours in Vietnam. It's not what she said and she
didn't act tough or crazy or anything, quite the opposite in fact. It
was just the way she carried herself, and the look in her eyes. She was
what you might call extremely focused. In civilian life, she was some
sort of cop or detective. I'm sure the bad guys gave her very little
trouble.
Gunner Asch
True. However in the grand scheme of things...there are so few of you
that the numbers simply dont add up to anything other than the fact YOU
might live. All the rest of the Leftists will be bulldozed into mass
graves.
Shrug
Gunner Asch
Nits make lice.
Tim Miller
Not in YOUR lifetime, coward.
RD (The Sandman)
Whatever, enough of them will also make a sweater. The point is that to
do something as asinine as nuking Chicago to get a few dissidents is like
using a hammer to kill the fly on your baby's head. The collateral
damage is not worth it.
RD (The Sandman)
news:oaQZl.11514$Xw4....@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
I'm sure. I remember in one of my CCW classes we had a lady real estate
agent. When the range time came up, all of her shots ended up in the
groin area on her target. Small group, too. Got the attention of a few
in there.
RD (The Sandman)
I and my family are really all I care about, Gunner. Somebody fuck with
them and they become prey.
All the rest of the Leftists will be bulldozed into
> mass graves.
>
> Shrug
tv
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:02:45 -0700 (PDT), martin
>
>
>
> <martin.secrest...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 14, 1:44 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 14, 3:10 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> >> > > > It's a clear Visa-card referendum - whose meaning should be obvious to
> >> > > > the regime and the rest of the elites: John Ross' 1996 thinly-veiled
> >> > > > novel about how Red Nation could successfully defeat the regime
> >> > > > through leaderless resistance is nearly sold out now.
>
> >> > > If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>
> >> > Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report. That's damn
> >> > good for an 800-page-plus novel in an America whose adult population
> >> > shuns reading books in recent years - and for a book few if any mall
> >> > bookstores stock.
>
> >> >http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com-yoursource for hard-to-find stuff!
>
> >> LOL...you mean an adult REPUBLICAN population who shuns reading books.
>
> >> Many because they can't read.
>
> >> Are their Mommies reading the book to their little Wingers for a
> >> bedtime story?
>
> >> TMT- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Begging your pardon, the Democratic Party has captured the least
> >literate elements
> >in our society, negroes and mestizoes.
>
> What about kluckers and rednecks?
They're Democrats too.
tv
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:56:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
>
>
>
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:57:00 -0700 (PDT), boo-radley
> ><mpmul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>REPUGS be eating shit for YEARS! LOL
>
> >>For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them
>
> >>By Dan Balz
> >>Sunday, June 14, 2009
>
> >Just out of curiosity..who is buying all the guns and ammo these days?
>
> >Leftists?
>
> >I have an idea that there will be far far far fewer of them in 2.3-3 yrs
> >so your buffoonery means nothing.
>
> You guys claim to have guns and ammo going back to way back when. So,
> the logical conclusion is that those buying guns would be the liberals
> who didn't own them before. Now, as to the reason why they would be
> buying guns and ammo right now is probably so the can cap the neo's
> ass when they try to take the nation by force or subterfuge. In other
> words, it's not a good thing for your cause.
Lefties excel at marching and chanting.
Righties at shooting guns, flying aircraft and launching missiles.
Gunner Asch
Some folks have a public face...and a combat face close at hand.
The difference can be startling and to some people...scary as hell.
So Im told anyways.
Gunner Asch
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a liberal who's been around guns for over fifty years. I have
>>>hunted with a rifle, a bow and handguns and I am ex-military. Not all
>>>liberals faint when confronted by overdue library books.
>>
>> True. However in the grand scheme of things...there are so few of you
>> that the numbers simply dont add up to anything other than the fact
>> YOU might live.
>
>I and my family are really all I care about, Gunner. Somebody fuck with
>them and they become prey.
Perhaps you could move out of the country for a few months in 2.3-3 yrs?
And then keep your liberal views to yourself when you return?
While you may be good.....if its you and yours against 100,000,000
enraged and motivated gun owners on the warpath.....shrug.
Id miss you.
Im not sure others would.
>
>All the rest of the Leftists will be bulldozed into
>> mass graves.
>>
>> Shrug
Gunner Asch
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
son..Chi is contaminated ground. Only problem is that the contamination
is mobile and above ground, rather than below it.
The only way to clear it..is to clear cut it. And anyone who would live
there voluntariilly has to be either mad, stupid, part of the
contamination.
So? We clear cut both the suspect wood, the stunted wood and the bad
wood. Only way to be sure it doesnt escape.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Fascinating how the Ducebag somehow figures that its now the Leftists
who are buying all the guns and ammo. When its actually those Centrists
who before, werent scared enough of the Far Left to get off their asses
and buy. Now they see Socialism/Marxism on the near horizon and the
Centrists are buying and stocking up in terror.
Which just goes to show how utterly stupid Ducebag is.
edi...@netpath.net
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT), tv <tjwilson6...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Lefties excel at marching and chanting.
> >Righties at shooting guns, flying aircraft and launching missiles.
>
> us just want to live our lives out in the country undisturbed. Good
> advice to any who want to start their little revolution would be to
> remember that. A lot of actual war veterans will take any attempt of
> a minority movement to use terrorism to impose their will on the
> majority as a nuisance and a lot of them (us) will do what has to be
> done to take care of it provided that the government makes it legal to
> do so and provides a little monetary incentive.
The exact same regime hasn't been able to make that work to stop
insurgency in IRAQ, have you noticed?
It didn't work for King George III during the (first) American
Revolution, either. Only a minority of those in the colonized America
stayed actively loyalist, just as only a minority actively
participated in that insurgency; most just kept their heads down and
waited to see who won.
The insurgency always has the edge in dealing with collaboration -
literally. The collaborators must live deep inside hostile territory
- and the insurgents can always out-brutalize either the occupation
forces or the collaborators. Don't think beheading must be done by
Arabs.
Benj
wrote:
> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> >> If he only printed 2000, that's not real impressive...
>
> > Over 60,000 copies have been sold - as of last report.
> Hell, son, I own QUANTUM MECHANICS TEXTBOOKS that had a bigger
> run than that.
>
> Piss off.
A bigger run than 60,000?
according to statistics there were 18,000 physicist and astronomer
jobs in 2006.
http://www.bls.gov/k12/math04.htm
So you are saying that each one of these guys owns THREE copies of the
SAME graduate level Quantum Mechanics textbook? Or is there a big
warehouse somewhere filled with unsold books?
You are as big a liar and as stooopid as ever.
At least Unintended Consequences is reasonably interesting. Hell the
photo of the pile of wood blocks ALONE is worth the price of the
book! And unlike the QM text, even though UC is a novel, it's not
full of lies and myths.
Oh I'm sorry. I forgot. You don't need to read a book to form your
opinion of it...
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 15 Jun 2009
>>>But to get Leftwing exttremists..its a marvelous idea!!! Id suggest
>>>using neutron bombs
>>
>> Gack, no. I mean the idea as sold by liberals sounds nice, but
>>the reality is that an "enhanced radiation device" (Aka "neutron
>>bomb") is an inefficient thermonuclear bomb.
>> Your standard Nuke has a fission trigger, a fusion 'main' charge,
>>and the whole is "wrapped" in Uranium which captures some of the
>>neutron flux produced by the previous two events, fisses and adds more
>>"ompf" to the whole extravagance. (Picture it as a firebomb with a
>>combustible casing.) A Neuron Bomb merely eliminates the U-238 wrap.
>>Not as much bang bust still a lot.
>>
>> One oaf the reasons I prefer non-persistent chemical agents. Or a
>>good old fashioned siege.
>
>off the lake would require exquisite timing to get em all, or even most
>of them.
>
>The siege would require a Stalingrad building to building mass invasion
>and the piling up of Libtard bodies at intersections for removal.
>Simply firebombing Chi would be more efficent and far more effective.
>So lets simply nuke the place and in a couple years..it would provide a
>good Public Works project filling in the holes and leveling out the
>ground.
Um mm, let me check for cultural artifacts in the museums, and
libraries. Rare books, and the like (okay, so I'm a bibliophile).
The sort of stuff a firestorm would destroy.
Maybe we can get a "gamma soaker". (CF the book "Fallen Dragon"
by Peter Hamilton, where corporate "Asset realization missions" have
taken the place of pirate raids. Terra forming begins with a "gamma
soak" - which essentially is a hundred meter wide high intensity gamma
beam, intended to sterilize whatever it gets played over.) Okay, so
getting the Tomaks for power might be a problem.
But it will leave more useful things available for recycling, and
sooner.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
pyotr filipivich
Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> reported Elvis on Tue,
16 Jun 2009 04:18:20 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
And this day and age, the city will fall a lot faster. Fewer
resources in the city to fall back upon. Cut the power, water and
food - three days, tops.
Remember - "Shiny stuff first!" Pillage then burn!
snerk.