What Happened to the Republican Revolution?..aka Drinking the GOP Koolaid
Too_Many_Tools
the core.
Do you know how you can tell if a conservative is lying?
His lips are flapping about conservative values screwing everything in
sight on the taxpayer nickel.
TMT
House of Pain: GOP's Class of '94
Michael Falcone Michael Falcone Thu Jul 2, 5:37 am ET
The sex scandals that have tarnished Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) and
Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) don’t appear to have much in common. Yet
there is one thread that binds them together: Both Ensign and Sanford
were members of the famed Republican House class of 1994, as well as
its latest casualties.
As it turns out, the pressures and demands of political life have
inflicted devastating damage not only on the Ensign and Sanford
families, but on the families of many of the 71 other freshmen who
formed the vanguard of the Republican Revolution.
In the 14 years since that star-crossed class arrived in Washington
espousing an agenda that placed family values at its core, no less
than a dozen of its members have been caught up in affairs, sex
scandals or in messy separations and divorces from their spouses that,
in more than a few instances, led to their political downfalls.
The problems started almost as soon as they took office, and by the
end of their first year in Congress, the marriages of at least four
Republican freshmen had collapsed.
One of the first to see his marriage unravel was Rep. Jim Bunn (R-
Ore.) who, not long after taking office in 1995, divorced his wife,
married one of his political aides, and later elevated her to chief of
staff. Bunn lost his 1996 reelection bid.
Rep. Enid Greene, who became the first female member of Congress from
Utah in 1994, spent most of her single term in the House dealing with
a scandal of her husband’s making. Joe Waldholtz, who married Greene
in 1993, embezzled millions of dollars that he used to help finance
her campaign. Once authorities finally caught up with Waldholtz,
Greene filed for divorce and took custody of the couple’s daughter.
She did not run for reelection in 1996.
Former Rep. Jon Christensen (R-Neb.) was another high-profile casualty
— he divorced his wife during his first term after she admitted to
marital infidelity.
All of this came despite an acknowledgment at the start of the 104th
Congress that the grueling pace of work in Washington could tear
families apart. Then-newly installed House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who
later got divorced for a second time in 2000, even warned as much.
And Gingrich pledged to do something about it, setting up a bipartisan
task force, the Family Quality of Life Advisory Committee, to rethink
the congressional work-life balance.
“We have established the principle that we are going to set schedules
we stick to so families can count on time to be together, built around
school schedules so that families can get to know each other, and not
just by seeing us on C-SPAN,” Gingrich said in a speech at the opening
of the 104th Congress on Jan. 4, 1995.
Several Republican members of the class said the ambitious push to
enact the provisions of the Contract with America, coupled with the
stresses of being a new member of Congress, took a heavy toll on their
personal lives.
Mark Neumann, a Wisconsin Republican who was elected to the first of
two House terms in 1994, said that when he came to Washington, he
initially had trouble balancing congressional duties with his
responsibilities as a husband and father.
“It was extremely intense and there was a lot of pressure,” said
Neumann, who announced Wednesday he’s running for governor in 2010.
“The whole concept of being away from home and family was certainly
difficult to adjust to. I’d never been away from my wife for more than
a day at a time until then.”
Neumann said he and his wife, Susan, eventually found ways to cope.
They began to set aside a few days a month for family time – he called
them “Green Days” – when he would keep official events off his
calendar.
Even lawmakers without families recalled that it was difficult to
cope, especially in the first 100 days. Michael Flanagan, an Illinois
Republican who was a bachelor when he was elected in 1994, said if he
had had a wife during his first term, “I would have been divorced
within a year.”
“I’ve always maintained that members of Congress have a wonderful job
and perfectly horrible lives,” he said in an interview. “Your life is
destroyed because you work for 750,000 people who generally don’t care
that you have a personal life.”
Flanagan lost his bid for reelection in 1996 but for many of those who
held their seats, things didn’t get any better after the first two
years.
Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fla.) got divorced in 1999. Rep. Steven
LaTourette (R-Ohio) and his wife, Susan, divorced after she accused
him of having an affair with his former chief of staff, who he later
married.
The GOP Senate Class of 1994 was not immune from family break-up
either — Rod Grams, a conservative former House member, split up with
his wife in 1996 and went on to marry a member of his staff. The well-
publicized divorce was a significant factor in his 2000 reelection
defeat.
Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), who resigned his seat in 2006, was in a
class by himself — he was forced to step down after becoming embroiled
in a controversy involving sexually explicit messages he sent to young
Capitol Hill pages.
Democrats, some of whom privately referred to the mid-1990s rumors of
infidelity and marital discord as “Fornigate,” view the collateral
family damage as the height of hypocrisy.
“They all came to town on this great family values train with Newt
Gingrich as the engineer,” recalled former Rep. Pat Schroeder (D-
Colo.). “Then it all started crumbling. It seemed like the louder they
talked the more divorces they got.”
Unlike other freshman classes, this one “came in high and mighty,”
Schroeder added, a consequence of the dramatic shift in the balance of
power in Washington.
“They drank the Kool-Aid and believed their own press,” she said.
“Maybe they just thought ‘I’m a much bigger deal than my family now.’”
Linda Killian, author of a book about the 1994 Republican class called
“The Freshmen: What Happened to the Republican Revolution?” said the
disconnect between the family values message the freshmen espoused and
their messy personal lives has become all too glaring over the years.
“They came in with such high ambition and on such a self-proclaimed
moral high ground,” Killian said. “Especially for guys who professed
that they were setting a higher standard, they failed at the benchmark
they set for themselves.”
Indeed, a decade-and-a-half later, some of their statements seem naïve
— or just plain ironic. In a 1998 interview with Congressional
Quarterly, Sanford and his wife, Jenny, spoke candidly about how
serving in Congress was “not an ideal lifestyle,” as Jenny put it at
the time.
“Just look at the divorce rate of our class,” then-Rep. Mark Sanford
told CQ. “We’re not exactly bettering the national average.”
Zachary Abrahamson contributed to this story.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>Republicans and conservatives in particular seem to be hypocrites at
>the core.
>
>Do you know how you can tell if a conservative is lying?
Here's how you tell TMT is lying....
___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09
"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.
"Got a valid address yet winger?
I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
someone actually believes him.
"Give us a valid address and we can arraign a playdate with some
friends."
-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
someone to believe him
edi...@netpath.net
from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
political control and the inability to really deliver on their
campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
promises such as Hillarycare.
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Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
Do you know how you can tell if Klaus is lying?
He gives you a "valid" address.
Laugh...laugh...laugh...
Hey Klaus...did you hear about the latest Christmas toy for
Republicans?
It is a Ken and Barbara doll set...they screw everybody else but
themselves.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
TMT
edi...@netpath.net
> Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
BILL KLINTON: "I have not had a sexual relationship with that
woman." (referring to Monica Lewinsky).
Who do you think Obama's Monica will be? Male or female?
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Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Jul 3, 9:45�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Republicans and conservatives in particular seem to be hypocrites at
>> >the core.
>>
>> >Do you know how you can tell if a conservative is lying?
>>
>> Here's how you tell TMT is lying....
>>
>> ___________
>> "I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
>> have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
>> � � � � � � � -Too Many Tools, 5/30/09
>>
>> "Try posting your real address just once and I will
>> guarantee you a visit."
>> � � � � � � � -Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
>> � � � � � � � �he scrambled for excuses not to show up.
>>
>> "Got a valid address yet winger?
>> I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
>> � � � � � � � -Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
>> � � � � � � � �someone actually believes him.
>>
>> "Give us a valid address and we can arraign a playdate with some
>> friends."
>> � � � � � � � �-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
>> � � � � � � � � someone to believe him
>
>Do you know how you can tell if I'm lying?
Easy. You tell someone you want to "visit" them.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Speaking of sleazy promise keepers.... are you a Republican?
___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09
"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.
"Got a valid address yet winger?
I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
-Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
someone actually believes him.
"Give us a valid address and we can arraign a playdate with some
friends."
-Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
someone to believe him
"Show a picture of your mailbox then...with you in front of it. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools 7-2-2009 changing the conditions in
another desperate attempt to weasel out of visiting
Pig Brick
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:cdd99854-d1a3-432d...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 3, 10:55 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
>
> BILL KLINTON: "I have not had a sexual relationship with that
> woman." (referring to Monica Lewinsky).
> Who do you think Obama's Monica will be? Male or female?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=larry+sinclair&search_type=&aq=f
Lookout
>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>promises such as Hillarycare.
>
Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
history.
What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
sucked. Period.
Lookout
>On Jul 3, 10:55�am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
>
>BILL KLINTON: "I have not had a sexual relationship with that
>woman." (referring to Monica Lewinsky).
>Who do you think Obama's Monica will be? Male or female?
>
>http://www.lying.little.men.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Once again you have to lie to get noticed.
Lookout
wrote:
>
>
><edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
>news:cdd99854-d1a3-432d...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 3, 10:55 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
>>
>> BILL KLINTON: "I have not had a sexual relationship with that
>> woman." (referring to Monica Lewinsky).
>> Who do you think Obama's Monica will be? Male or female?
>
Poetic Justice
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>> What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>> political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>> campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>> being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>> their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>> it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>> the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>> promises such as Hillarycare.
>>
> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
Clinton left the economy slumping, and the internet bubble was
collapsing as he was leaving office.
He also left us with new plans for affirmative action loans to the poor.
> deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
> Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
> history.
Are you into living in an Oligarchy?
> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
> sucked. Period.
The people sucked. They decided they were invincible and Bush and them
spent too much money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced
and expanded on with spending like the planet has never before seen.
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different from
>>what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their campaign
>>promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that being at
>>"Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in their personal
>>lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after it became obvious
>>early on that - even with Democrat control of both the House and the
>>Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core promises such as
>>Hillarycare.
>>
> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the country
> at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the deficit
> dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as Sec of
> State. They are the most successful political couple in US history.
Perhaps you have to be a scumbag so the economy can thrive...
> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
> sucked. Period.
Yes, the Republican Revolution succeeded. Beware what you wish (vote)
for. A very convincing argument can be made that the Republicans put
Obama into the White House. If you accept that proposition and look
solely at the economic havoc then all the negative consequences of Obama,
not only Bush43, Bush41, Reagan, Carter and Nixon policies finely bore
fruit.
Or nightshade, want a cup?
Like a
--
Regards, Curly
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hal
<Poetic...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>Lookout wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>> political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>> campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>> being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>> their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>> it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>> the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>> promises such as Hillarycare.
>>>
>> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>
>
>Clinton left the economy slumping, and the internet bubble was
>collapsing as he was leaving office.
you're on drugs, right? Look it up, moron. google "economic
performance presidents"
Lookout
<Poetic...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>Lookout wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>> political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>> campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>> being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>> their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>> it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>> the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>> promises such as Hillarycare.
>>>
>> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>
>
>Clinton left the economy slumping, and the internet bubble was
>collapsing as he was leaving office.
Bullshit.
>He also left us with new plans for affirmative action loans to the poor.
HAHHAHA
>> deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
>> Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
>> history.
>
>Are you into living in an Oligarchy?
Facts. Deny them.
>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>> sucked. Period.
>
>The people sucked.
HAHAHAHHA The people sucked? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them
>spent too much money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced
>and expanded on with spending like the planet has never before seen.
YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
Lookout
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:16:46 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different from
>>>what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their campaign
>>>promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that being at
>>>"Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in their personal
>>>lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after it became obvious
>>>early on that - even with Democrat control of both the House and the
>>>Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core promises such as
>>>Hillarycare.
>>>
>> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the country
>> at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the deficit
>> dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as Sec of
>> State. They are the most successful political couple in US history.
>
>Perhaps you have to be a scumbag so the economy can thrive...
It's YOUR opinion he was a scumbag.
It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 3, 9:47 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >> What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
> >> from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
> >> political control and the inability to really deliver on their
> >> campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
> >> being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
> >> their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
> >> it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
> >> the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
> >> promises such as Hillarycare.
>
>
> >Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
>
> Speaking of sleazy promise keepers.... are you a Republican?
> ___________
> "I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
> have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
> -Too Many Tools, 5/30/09
>
> "Try posting your real address just once and I will
> guarantee you a visit."
> -Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
> he scrambled for excuses not to show up.
>
> "Got a valid address yet winger?
> I would like to arraign[sic] a visit for you."
> -Too Many Tools, 6/19/09, still hoping
> someone actually believes him.
>
> "Give us a valid address and we can arraign a playdate with some
> friends."
> -Too Many Tools 7-1-2009 STILL trying to get
> someone to believe him
>
> "Show a picture of your mailbox then...with you in front of it. ;<)"
> -Too Many Tools 7-2-2009 changing the conditions in
> another desperate attempt to weasel out of visiting
So Klaus..are you a Ken or a Barbara?
My dog thought of you again...three times.
I think he likes you.
TMT
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
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Locklear, Thatcher Longstreth, Donald Lukens, Connie Mack, Jon Matthews,
John McCain, Jon McCrery, James Gordon McLees, Stephen L. McPherson, Jeff
Miller, Guy Millner, Glenn Murphy, Jr., Sue Myrick, Jim Oberweis, George
Christopher Ortloff, Bill Owens, Brent Parker, John E. Peterson, Carrie
Prejean, Dan Quayle, Dennis L. Rader, Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Ronald
Reagan, Nelson Rockerfeller, Lester Roloff, Beverly Russell, Jack Ryan,
Matt Sanchez, Davis Schippers, John Schmitz, Ed Schrock, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, Don Sherwood, Craig J. Spence, Sandy Sullivan, Bill
Thomas, Clarence Thomas, Strom Thurmond (Yeah, he deserves to be
mentioned twice), Jay Timmons, John Tower, Bush Interior Department,
David Vitter, Sol Wachtier, Jim West, Vance S. Wilkins, Jr., Robert
Williams, Charles Wingate, . . .
>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded on
>>with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>
> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
generations. If the nation survives intact.
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:40:37 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:16:46 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>>>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>>>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>>>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>>>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>>>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>>>promises such as Hillarycare.
>>>>
>>> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>>> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>>> deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
>>> Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
>>> history.
>>
>>Perhaps you have to be a scumbag so the economy can thrive...
>
> It's YOUR opinion he was a scumbag.
True. Most honorable people would consider adultry a trademark of
scumbags.
> It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
Also true.
>>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>> sucked. Period.
>>
>>Yes, the Republican Revolution succeeded. Beware what you wish (vote)
>>for. A very convincing argument can be made that the Republicans put
>>Obama into the White House. If you accept that proposition and look
>>solely at the economic havoc then all the negative consequences of
>>Obama, not only Bush43, Bush41, Reagan, Carter and Nixon policies finely
>>bore fruit.
>>Or nightshade, want a cup?
hal
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>
>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>generations. If the nation survives intact.
doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue
to destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan
of course.
Gunner Asch
>On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
><edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>promises such as Hillarycare.
>>
>Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
>Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
>history.
Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession, and Hillary
ran for president. Her opponent claimed she had zero forigen relations
experience, and when he won, made her head of foriegn relations.
Snicker
>
>What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>sucked. Period.
Odd...When the Obamassiah won..the nation did a sharp nosedive into the
toilet. Its been flushed in his first 100 days and its swirling around
the bowl, getting ready to go down the drain.
Which planet did you say you lived on? Bizzaro Earth?
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Gunner Asch
Once again..you intentionally lie to get noticed.
Go away!
Gunner Asch
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:32:07 -0400, Poetic Justice
><Poetic...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>Lookout wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>>> political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>>> campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>>> being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>>> their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>>> it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>>> the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>>> promises such as Hillarycare.
>>>>
>>> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>>> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>>
>>
>>Clinton left the economy slumping, and the internet bubble was
>>collapsing as he was leaving office.
>
>Bullshit.
Your buffoonery is noted..again.
>
>>He also left us with new plans for affirmative action loans to the poor.
>
>HAHHAHA
>
>>> deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
>>> Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
>>> history.
>>
>>Are you into living in an Oligarchy?
>
>Facts. Deny them.
So you are claiming that the Obamassiah turned the US into an Oligarchy?
So the Revolution will be based on fact then.
>
>>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>> sucked. Period.
>>
>>The people sucked.
>
>HAHAHAHHA The people sucked? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>
>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them
>>spent too much money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced
>>and expanded on with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>
>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
>>
>>Perhaps you have to be a scumbag so the economy can thrive...
>
>It's YOUR opinion he was a scumbag.
>It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/luskin200405050850.asp
You really really are a dimwitted buffoon.
Really.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>So Klaus..[..]
Are you a Republican? You don't seem to be much of a promise
keeper....
RD (The Sandman)
news:8k0t45tmp6ihu1fb2...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>promises such as Hillarycare.
>>
> Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
> country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
> deficit dwindling.
You got those two backwards. The debt is the long term one and the
deficit is the yearly one.
--
Sleep well, tonight........
RD (The Sandman)
" All experience is great provided you live through it.
If it kills you, you have gone too far."
Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
Lookout
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
Cite? Every recent poll I've seen has said that most women would
forgive their husband for an affair. Maybe you have some data I don't?
>> It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
>
>Also true.
>
>>>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>>> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>>> sucked. Period.
>>>
>>>Yes, the Republican Revolution succeeded. Beware what you wish (vote)
>>>for. A very convincing argument can be made that the Republicans put
>>>Obama into the White House.
No it can't. You're nuts.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:38:37 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Perhaps you have to be a scumbag so the economy can thrive...
>>
>>It's YOUR opinion he was a scumbag.
>>It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
>
>http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/luskin200405050850.asp
>
>You really really are a dimwitted buffoon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review
"It is usually considered the center of intellectual activity for the
American Conservative movement in the twentieth century."
As usual you cite a right wing propaganda rag.
>Really.
>
>Gunner
It's just as useless as you are.
Lookout
Decades at best. It will take that long to erase the decisions of the
Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
Lookout
That's all they have.
Oh..and Palin :)
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:16:46 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>><edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
>>>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
>>>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
>>>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
>>>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
>>>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
>>>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
>>>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
>>>promises such as Hillarycare.
>>>
>>Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
>>country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
>>deficit dwindling. Hillary was an elected senator and now serves as
>>Sec of State. They are the most successful political couple in US
>>history.
>
>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
Lie
>and Hillary ran for president.
She's a US Senator
>Her opponent claimed she had zero forigen relations
>experience, and when he won, made her head of foriegn relations.
>Snicker
Please cite the "zero foreign relations experience"
Or are you lying again?
>>What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>sucked. Period.
>
>Odd...When the Obamassiah won..the nation did a sharp nosedive into the
>toilet. Its been flushed in his first 100 days and its swirling around
>the bowl, getting ready to go down the drain.
We're still in bush's mess and will be for years.
>Which planet did you say you lived on? Bizzaro Earth?
>
>Gunner
You're still an idiot and now a liar.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:17:46 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
>><edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 3, 10:55�am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Snicker....the GOP is in a sleazy Promis Keeper class by itself.
>>>
>>>BILL KLINTON: "I have not had a sexual relationship with that
>>>woman." (referring to Monica Lewinsky).
>>>Who do you think Obama's Monica will be? Male or female?
>>>
>>>http://www.lying.little.men.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
>>
>>Once again you have to lie to get noticed.
>
>
>Once again..you intentionally lie to get noticed.
>
>Go away!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
You're not very original, are you?
Lookout
I didn't say this. You're replying to the wrong person you idiot.
>>>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>>> implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>>> sucked. Period.
>>>
>>>The people sucked.
>>
>>HAHAHAHHA The people sucked? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>
>>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them
>>>spent too much money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced
>>>and expanded on with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>
>>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>
>I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
>Gunner
Curly Surmudgeon
And abstinence while letting your 16-year old daughter bring her
fuckbuddy to live in your house...
Curly Surmudgeon
That substantiates my statement. If "most women" liked their husbands
committing adultry then forgiveness wouldn't be necessary.
>>> It's a FACT the economy was thriving.
>>
>>Also true.
>>
>>>>> What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful.
>>>>> They implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country.
>>>>> The plan sucked. Period.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the Republican Revolution succeeded. Beware what you wish (vote)
>>>>for. A very convincing argument can be made that the Republicans put
>>>>Obama into the White House.
>
> No it can't. You're nuts.
Yes, it can and the ad homenim doesn't encourage a constructive dialog on
the statement.
>>If you accept that proposition and look
>>>>solely at the economic havoc then all the negative consequences of
>>>>Obama, not only Bush43, Bush41, Reagan, Carter and Nixon policies
>>>>finely bore fruit.
>>
>>>>Or nightshade, want a cup?
Gunner Asch
>>
>>You really really are a dimwitted buffoon.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review
>"It is usually considered the center of intellectual activity for the
>American Conservative movement in the twentieth century."
>
>As usual you cite a right wing propaganda rag.
>
>>Really.
>>
>>Gunner
>
>It's just as useless as you are.
Because it says you are a brainless buffoon? Lands sakes son...everyone
thinks you are a brainless buffoon, so whats the problem?
You..a spineless usenet poster are claiming to be smarter than all the
really smart people who write for that magazine?
Snicker....chortle...laugh...chuckle...ROFLMAO!!!!
Ok, (wiping tears from my eyes)...whats the punch line? Or was that
your whole routine?
You are funny as any retard Ive ever met!! Can you do the napkin trick
too?
Gunner Asch
>>>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>>>money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded on
>>>>with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>>
>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>
>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>
>Decades at best. It will take that long to erase the decisions of the
>Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
Bush was president for 20 yrs????????
Fascinating!!!!
And which decisions will you be trying to erase? Keep in mind you
only have 2.2-3 yrs to do it, and once you are dead, we go back to the
Default settings on the Constitution anyways. Shrug.
Gunner Asch
So you are claiming that the Democrat controlled Congress and the
Democrat President are simply puppets of da ebil Republicans?
ROFLMAO!!!!
Bravo!!
Reading your posts is better than whats on the boob tube!!
Gunner Asch
>>
>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>
>Lie
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of your
Democrat handlers.
>
>>and Hillary ran for president.
>
>She's a US Senator
She is now.
>
>>Her opponent claimed she had zero forigen relations
>>experience, and when he won, made her head of foriegn relations.
>>Snicker
>
>Please cite the "zero foreign relations experience"
>Or are you lying again?
http://thepage.time.com/obama-foreign-policy-memo/
It would appear you are indeed as a bag of hammers....pity.
>
>>>What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
>>>implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
>>>sucked. Period.
>>
>>Odd...When the Obamassiah won..the nation did a sharp nosedive into the
>>toilet. Its been flushed in his first 100 days and its swirling around
>>the bowl, getting ready to go down the drain.
>
>We're still in bush's mess and will be for years.
Sorry pal..we were doing good for virtually all of Bush's 2 terms, with
the exception of 9/11..and now we are in the toilet. Cites to the
contrary?
Bring em on. Chuckle.
>
>>Which planet did you say you lived on? Bizzaro Earth?
>>
>>Gunner
>
>You're still an idiot and now a liar.
I just proved my claims and proved you to be either an utter dumbshit,
or a DNC tool.
Care to try again, fuckhead?
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner Asch
>>
>>
>>Once again..you intentionally lie to get noticed.
>>
>>Go away!
>
>Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
>
>You're not very original, are you?
Laugh laugh laugh... you are one dumb sonobitch. And with each post I
keep proving it.
Keep up the good work.
Say..your not here for the hunting....are you?
Cant find a cheap Dominatrix to punish you and you want me to do it?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
>>>
>>>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>
>>I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
>
>Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
So who did you vote for? Nader or Riva, right?
A dumb fuck or a socialist would be my guess.
Which one was it?
Or was it Socialist Brian Moore, or Roger Calero?
Or did you simply stay in your Moms basement in hiding?
Pig Brick
"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mv30555aksnhd5qqe...@4ax.com...
Didn't Obama once say that he had more foreign experience than Hillary
because of his Kenyan roots, and from growing up in Indonesia?
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/03/11/team_obama_hits_clinton_on_exp/
Team Obama Hits Clinton on Experience Claims
The Obama campaign unloads on Hillary Clinton's "experience" with this memo
by Greg Craig offering a point-by-point rebuttal of her claims:
To: Interested Parties
From: Greg Craig, former director, Policy Planning Office, U.S. State
Department
RE: Senator Clinton's claim to be experienced in foreign policy: Just words?
DA: March 11, 2008
When your entire campaign is based upon a claim of experience, it is
important that you have evidence to support that claim. Hillary Clinton's
argument that she has passed "the Commander- in-Chief test" is simply not
supported by her record.
There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton played an important domestic policy
role when she was First Lady. It is well known, for example, that she led
the failed effort to pass universal health insurance. There is no reason to
believe, however, that she was a key player in foreign policy at any time
during the Clinton Administration. She did not sit in on National Security
Council meetings. She did not have a security clearance. She did not attend
meetings in the Situation Room. She did not manage any part of the national
security bureaucracy, nor did she have her own national security staff. She
did not do any heavy-lifting with foreign governments, whether they were
friendly or not. She never managed a foreign policy crisis, and there is no
evidence to suggest that she participated in the decision-making that
occurred in connection with any such crisis. As far as the record shows,
Senator Clinton never answered the phone either to make a decision on any
pressing national security issue - not at 3 AM or at any other time of day.
When asked to describe her experience, Senator Clinton has cited a handful
of international incidents where she says she played a central role. But any
fair-minded and objective judge of these claims - i.e., by someone not
affiliated with the Clinton campaign - would conclude that Senator Clinton's
claims of foreign policy experience are exaggerated.
Too_Many_Tools
Lookout...I think Gunner is sweet on you.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Hey Lookout...be careful...I think Gunner is going to send you flowers
soon. ;<)
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Correction....he will be sending you flowers AND chocolates.
Lucky bastard. ;<)))
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
I am jealous...Gunner never whispered these sweet nothings in my ear.
HH&C
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
> >><CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>
> >>we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>
> >>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
> >>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>
> >>doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue to
> >>destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan of
> >>course.
>
> > That's all they have.
> > Oh..and Palin :)
>
> And abstinence while letting your 16-year old daughter bring her
> fuckbuddy to live in your house...
The apple sure didn't fall far from the tree. Tell us again how
coarse your father's mouth was.
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://tinycurly.com/lpcbrm
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
HH&C
> Didn't Obama once say that he had more foreign experience than Hillary
> because of his Kenyan roots, and from growing up in Indonesia?
>
> http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/03/11/team_obama_hits_cl...
Just stop it with the facts already. His mind is make up.
"Facts are stupid things." Reagan
Pig Brick
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:phe05559ddppgmsah...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>>
>>>doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue
>>>to destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan
>>>of course.
>>
>>That's all they have.
>>Oh..and Palin :)
>
>
> So you are claiming that the Democrat controlled Congress and the
> Democrat President are simply puppets of da ebil Republicans?
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!
>
> Bravo!!
>
> Reading your posts is better than whats on the boob tube!!
>
GWB is pulling their puppet strings. The libs thought they voted him out,
but little did they know...
Pig Brick
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:j1f055ldeptijho7j...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:34:43 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
>>
>>Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
>
>
> So who did you vote for? Nader or Riva, right?
>
> A dumb fuck or a socialist would be my guess.
>
> Which one was it?
>
> Or was it Socialist Brian Moore, or Roger Calero?
>
> Or did you simply stay in your Moms basement in hiding?
You are confusing him with Too_Many_Tools in his moms (both of them)
basement.
RD (The Sandman)
news:vj3055l2hj1rbs2u5...@4ax.com:
Yes, it can. By their actions in the preceding 8 years.
>>If you accept that proposition and look
>>>>solely at the economic havoc then all the negative consequences of
>>>>Obama, not only Bush43, Bush41, Reagan, Carter and Nixon policies
>>>>finely bore fruit.
>>
>>>>Or nightshade, want a cup?
--
RD (The Sandman)
news:mv30555aksnhd5qqe...@4ax.com:
Not anymore. Her place was taken by Kirsten Gillibrand.
RD (The Sandman)
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>
>>Lie
>
> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
> your Democrat handlers.
>>
>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>
>>She's a US Senator
>
> She is now.
No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
Too_Many_Tools
@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote innews:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>
> >>Lie
>
> >http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
> > It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
> > your Democrat handlers.
>
> >>>and Hillary ran for president.
>
> >>She's a US Senator
>
> > She is now.
>
> No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>
> --
> Sleep well, tonight........
>
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> " All experience is great provided you live through it.
> If it kills you, you have gone too far."
>
> Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
And Sarah Palin...well she is now nothing but a hasbeen....a
Republican hasbeen.
TMT
RD (The Sandman)
news:12317084-eeb3-4fb5...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 5, 12:12�pm, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> @comcast.net> wrote:
>> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
>> innews:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf9
> i4i4haob...@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>
>> >>Lie
>>
>> >http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>
>> > It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. �Or a Useful Idiot of
>> > your Democrat handlers.
>>
>> >>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>
>> >>She's a US Senator
>>
>> > She is now.
>>
>> No, she isn't. �She is Secretary of State. �;)
>
> And Sarah Palin...well she is now nothing but a hasbeen....a
> Republican hasbeen.
>
> TMT
>
I'm not a Republican. What's your point?
Gunner Asch
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>news:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>
>>>Lie
>>
>> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>
>> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
>> your Democrat handlers.
>>>
>>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>>
>>>She's a US Senator
>>
>> She is now.
>
>No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
Absolutely correct. Mea Culpa. It was very late..or very
early....chuckle.
Anyways...it simply backs my statement that Obama claimed she had NO
foreign policy experience, then made her head of foreign policy .
Gunner Asch
wrote:
The sort of Leftist Extremest we duel with here on Usenet..nearly Always
lives in their moms basement. This is their social life, their exercise
and their reason for living.
Tim Miller
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0500, "Pig Brick" <pigb...@pigbrick.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>> news:j1f055ldeptijho7j...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:34:43 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>>> I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
>>>> Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
>>>
>>> So who did you vote for? Nader or Riva, right?
>>>
>>> A dumb fuck or a socialist would be my guess.
>>>
>>> Which one was it?
>>>
>>> Or was it Socialist Brian Moore, or Roger Calero?
>>>
>>> Or did you simply stay in your Moms basement in hiding?
>> You are confusing him with Too_Many_Tools in his moms (both of them)
>> basement.
>
>
> The sort of Leftist Extremest we duel with here on Usenet..nearly Always
> lives in their moms basement. This is their social life, their exercise
> and their reason for living.
>
Oh look. "Gunner" is projecting again. At least the "Evil Leftists(tm)"
don't have to STEAL their internet connections from their neighbors,
like YOU do, huh??
LOL!!
Too_Many_Tools
@comcast.net> wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:12317084-eeb3-4fb5...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 5, 12:12 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
> > @comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
> >> innews:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf9
>
> >> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>
> >> >>Lie
>
> >> >http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
> >> > It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
> >> > your Democrat handlers.
>
> >> >>>and Hillary ran for president.
>
> >> >>She's a US Senator
>
> >> > She is now.
>
> >> No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>
> > And Sarah Palin...well she is now nothing but a hasbeen....a
> > Republican hasbeen.
>
> > TMT
>
> I'm not a Republican. What's your point?
>
> --
> Sleep well, tonight........
>
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> " All experience is great provided you live through it.
> If it kills you, you have gone too far."
>
> Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
Suffering from reading disabilities I see.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:12:53 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
>
>
>
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
> >news:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf...@4ax.com:
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>
> >>>Lie
>
> >>http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
> >> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
> >> your Democrat handlers.
>
> >>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>
> >>>She's a US Senator
>
> >> She is now.
>
> >No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>
> Absolutely correct. Mea Culpa. It was very late..or very
> early....chuckle.
>
> Anyways...it simply backs my statement that Obama claimed she had NO
> foreign policy experience, then made her head of foreign policy .
>
> Gunner
>
> "Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
> liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
> to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
> would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
> passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
> today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
> reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
> the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
>
> Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
And Sarah Palin has no experience and McCain wanted her for VP.
It is quite evident who has the better judgment.
And why Obama won the election.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0500, "Pig Brick" <pigbr...@pigbrick.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
> >news:j1f055ldeptijho7j...@4ax.com...
>
> >>>>>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>
> >>>>I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
>
> >>>Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
>
> >> So who did you vote for? Nader or Riva, right?
>
> >> A dumb fuck or a socialist would be my guess.
>
> >> Which one was it?
>
> >> Or was it Socialist Brian Moore, or Roger Calero?
>
> >> Or did you simply stay in your Moms basement in hiding?
>
> >You are confusing him with Too_Many_Tools in his moms (both of them)
> >basement.
>
> The sort of Leftist Extremest we duel with here on Usenet..nearly Always
> lives in their moms basement. This is their social life, their exercise
> and their reason for living.
>
> Gunner
>
> "Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
> liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
> to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
> would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
> passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
> today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
> reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
> the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
>
> Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
While Gunner lives on welfare. ;<)
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
@comcast.net> wrote:
> Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:8k0t45tmp6ihu1fb2...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT), "edi...@netpath.net"
> > <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>
> >>What happened to the Republican Revolution of 1994 was no different
> >>from what happened to the Klintons - the combination of arrogance from
> >>political control and the inability to really deliver on their
> >>campaign promises led the Marie Antoinettes into the one thing that
> >>being at "Versailles" really did let them do: be overaged kids in
> >>their personal lives. The same thing happened to the Klintons after
> >>it became obvious early on that - even with Democrat control of both
> >>the House and the Senate - the Klintons couldn't deliver even on core
> >>promises such as Hillarycare.
>
> > Huh? Bill Clinton served two very successful terms. He left the
> > country at peace and with the economy rolling, the debt gone and the
> > deficit dwindling.
>
> deficit is the yearly one.
>
> --
> Sleep well, tonight........
>
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> " All experience is great provided you live through it.
> If it kills you, you have gone too far."
>
> Painter Alice Neel, in the New Yorker.
So didn't Bush pay off his short term debt?
Take all the white space you want for your excuse.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
You do realize that Obama can pay off his trillion dollar country
saving deficit quickly...by raising your taxes extremely high.
Are you saying that you want him to jack your taxes to the sky?
TMT
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 04 Jul 2009
22:36:21 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>
>>Lie
>
>http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
>It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of your
>Democrat handlers.
>>
>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>
>>She's a US Senator
>
>She is now.
Nope. She's a former Senator, now SecState. Appointed to that
position by the very man who said she lacked foreign policy
experience. I guess it took one to know one.
-
pyotr filipivich
Just when you think you see the light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a 900lb gorilla with a flashlight!!
John R. Carroll
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:se1255l5evoaoj9dr...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:12:53 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>>news:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>>
>>>>Lie
>>>
>>> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>>
>>> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
>>> your Democrat handlers.
>>>>
>>>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>>>
>>>>She's a US Senator
>>>
>>> She is now.
>>
>>No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>
>
> Absolutely correct. Mea Culpa. It was very late..or very
> early....chuckle.
>
> Anyways...it simply backs my statement that Obama claimed she had NO
> foreign policy experience, then made her head of foreign policy .
LOL
What a douchebag. Barak Obama is the head of American policy now, foreign or
otherwise.
JC
Scout
Hey, he's got a better method than that. Simply have run away inflation
and by the time he gets out of office we won't have any debt. Of course,
our money will be worthless, but hey, can't have everything right?
> Are you saying that you want him to jack your taxes to the sky?
He already has. You just don't see it yet.
Talk-n-head
Hillary Quit and left her Office as Senator to do some other JOB, boy is
she a quitter.
I'd never vote for Hillary the QUITTER. She doesn't finish what she starts.
Dan
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:07 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>>>> money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded on
>>>>> with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>> generations. If the nation survives intact.
>> Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
>
> Bush was president for 20 yrs????????
No, why would you think that (it's actually been a Republican Supreme
Court for the best part of 40 years).
> Fascinating!!!!
You sure are (and not in the good sense of the word).
> And which decisions will you be trying to erase? Keep in mind you
> only have 2.2-3 yrs to do it,
And then what?
> and once you are dead, we go back to the
> Default settings on the Constitution anyways. Shrug.
So you are admitting up front that the Republican coup will be (has
been?) an abject failure, and liberals will rule the country. Ah, if it
were only so...
Dan
Dan
>>
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>> generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>> to destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan
>>> of course.
>> That's all they have.
>> Oh..and Palin :)
>
>
> So you are claiming that the Democrat controlled Congress and the
> Democrat President are simply puppets of da ebil Republicans?
Point out where he made that claim. Take your time, and please, use all
the white space you think necessary to make your point.
> ROFLMAO!!!!
Indeed. However, you laughing at the cleverness of your own mistake
(while totally oblivious to that mistake) is a sign of mental illness,
and while it is tempting, I do not laugh at the mentally ill.
> Bravo!!
Sigh...
> Reading your posts is better than whats on the boob tube!!
That statement would make sense if there were ANY credible evidence you
could actually read.
Dan
Dan
Talk about puppets. I didn't know sock-puppets HAD strings...
Dan
Dan
>> Lie
>
A mild recession, mostly secular, that was already turning around. The
only lasting effect was the necessary collapse of the NASDAQ after the
e-com (or dot-com for you civilians) bubble burst (for which I do give
him a majority of the credit, along with the Republican Congress who
makes financial law).
> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of your
> Democrat handlers.
It appears you a party shill (i.e., a not-very-useful idiot).
>>> and Hillary ran for president.
>> She's a US Senator
> She is now.
And was soon after Bill left office
> Sorry pal..we were doing good for virtually all of Bush's 2 terms,
Interesting. The BEST we did was recover to Bill's level in the major
stock markets, due solely to the business of war. People were doing so
well they had to refinance their mortgages to pay their bills...
> with the exception of 9/11..and now we are in the toilet.
Following 8 years of Bush...
> Cites to the contrary?
Real cites to your side?
> Bring em on. Chuckle.
Chuckle all you want.
>>> Which planet did you say you lived on? Bizzaro Earth?
>>>
>>> Gunner
>> You're still an idiot and now a liar.
>
> I just proved my claims and proved you to be either an utter dumbshit,
> or a DNC tool.
You gave no evidence, let alone "proved your claim." Nice little
fantasy piece you cite, however.
> Care to try again, fuckhead?
Funny, I was about to ask you the same question...
> Laugh laugh laugh
Sad little clown.
Mr. Fantasy
- Wood, Winwood, Capaldi
Dear Mister Fantasy play us a tune
Something to make us all happy
Do anything take us out of this gloom
Sing a song, play guitar
Make it snappy
You are the one who can make us all laugh
But doing that you break out in tears
Please don't be sad if it was a straight line you had
We wouldn't have known you all these years
Dan
Dan
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:12:53 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>> news:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>> Lie
>>> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>>
>>> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
>>> your Democrat handlers.
>>>>> and Hillary ran for president.
>>>> She's a US Senator
>>> She is now.
>> No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>
>
> Absolutely correct. Mea Culpa. It was very late..or very
> early....chuckle.
>
> Anyways...it simply backs my statement that Obama claimed she had NO
> foreign policy experience, then made her head of foreign policy .
Mark this day on your calendars, children. Runner actually admitted to
one of his millions of errors/lies told over the last few years!
Talk about miracles!
Dan
HH&C
Sure he could. No question about it.
> Are you saying that you want him to jack your taxes to the sky?
Is he saying that he doesn't want an economic recovery?
> TMT
No economic recovery, no reelection. Even with the media malpractice
saying that another 460,000 job losses isn't that bad.
John R. Carroll
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:K5c4m.9945$Il....@newsfe16.iad...
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry pal..we were doing good for virtually all of Bush's 2 terms,
>
> Interesting. The BEST we did was recover to Bill's level in the major
> stock markets, due solely to the business of war. People were doing so
> well they had to refinance their mortgages to pay their bills...
The American economy had lost two million jobs net between Bush's assuming
office and when ran for reelection in 2004.
Not exactly a sterling record.
JC
Siobhan Medeiros
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>
> >Lie
>
> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>
> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of your
> Democrat handlers.
>
>
>
> >>and Hillary ran for president.
>
> >She's a US Senator
>
> She is now.
>
>
>
> >>experience, and when he won, made her head of foriegn relations.
> >>Snicker
>
> >Please cite the "zero foreign relations experience"
> >Or are you lying again?
>
> http://thepage.time.com/obama-foreign-policy-memo/
>
> It would appear you are indeed as a bag of hammers....pity.
>
>
>
> >>>What happened to the republican revolution was it was successful. They
> >>>implemented the plan and the bottom fell out of the country. The plan
> >>>sucked. Period.
>
> >>Odd...When the Obamassiah won..the nation did a sharp nosedive into the
> >>toilet. Its been flushed in his first 100 days and its swirling around
> >>the bowl, getting ready to go down the drain.
>
> >We're still in bush's mess and will be for years.
>
> Sorry pal..we were doing good for virtually all of Bush's 2 terms, with
> the exception of 9/11..and now we are in the toilet. Cites to the
> contrary?
> Bring em on. Chuckle.
>
>
Ever hear of the 2001 recession, idiot? The one that seemed to go on
forever?
And the financial crisis started on Bush's watch, idiot. The economy
was already down the shitter when Obama took office. Only now has it
started to show signs of improvement.
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:29:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:07 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>>>>>money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded
>>>>>>on with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>>
>>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>>
>>>Decades at best. It will take that long to erase the decisions of the
>>>Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
>>
>>Bush was president for 20 yrs????????
>
> Remind me again. Who was the president in 1990? I thought it was Bush.
Actually GHW Bush assumed leadership about 1985 when Reagan went senile.
There is much evidence that Bush instigated the Iran/Contra affair
without Reagan's knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms-for-hostages
--
Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
Not only jobs that were lost but many will never return plus you have the
million or so new entrants to the job market and underemployed.
Pig Brick
"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:RVb4m.11849$R73....@newsfe12.iad...
> Pig Brick wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>> news:phe05559ddppgmsah...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>>>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>>> generations. If the nation survives intact.
Obama has tripled any damage Bush did. In fact, Obama has devalued the
dollar so much that paying for Bush is quite easy. He could do it with his
stimulus package. Then we would be back to the golden age of GW instead of
this mess Obama created.
Pig Brick
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:gh12551k461c36404...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0500, "Pig Brick" <pigb...@pigbrick.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:j1f055ldeptijho7j...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:34:43 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I certainly didnt vote for Obama. You didnt?
>>>>
>>>>Nope, not me. I stated that very clearly in other groups.
>>>
>>>
>>> So who did you vote for? Nader or Riva, right?
>>>
>>> A dumb fuck or a socialist would be my guess.
>>>
>>> Which one was it?
>>>
>>> Or was it Socialist Brian Moore, or Roger Calero?
>>>
>>> Or did you simply stay in your Moms basement in hiding?
>>
>>You are confusing him with Too_Many_Tools in his moms (both of them)
>>basement.
>
>
> The sort of Leftist Extremest we duel with here on Usenet..nearly Always
> lives in their moms basement. This is their social life, their exercise
> and their reason for living.
TMT has it worse the the others. It's one basement per mom, but he has two
moms and just one basement. Therefore he feels ripped off, he feels that he
only has half the basement that he deserves.
Pig Brick
"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9C3F723AD...@216.196.97.130...
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:12317084-eeb3-4fb5...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jul 5, 12:12 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
>>> innews:2ne0559jtgiip6tvf9
>> i4i4haob...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>
>>> >>Lie
>>>
>>> >http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>>
>>> > It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
>>> > your Democrat handlers.
>>>
>>> >>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>>
>>> >>She's a US Senator
>>>
>>> > She is now.
>>>
>>> No, she isn't. She is Secretary of State. ;)
>>
>> And Sarah Palin...well she is now nothing but a hasbeen....a
>> Republican hasbeen.
>>
>> TMT
>>
>
> I'm not a Republican. What's your point?
TMT has the hots for Sarah. Who can blame him when all he has is is two fat
ugly moms to peep at through the basement ceiling peephole?
Pig Brick
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:1hk255prpc7t4oe6u...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:12:22 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
>><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 04 Jul 2009
>>22:36:21 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>>
>>>>Lie
>>>
>>>http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>>
>>>It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of your
>>>Democrat handlers.
>>>>
>>>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>>>
>>>>She's a US Senator
>>>
>>>She is now.
>>
>> Nope. She's a former Senator, now SecState. Appointed to that
>>position by the very man who said she lacked foreign policy
>>experience. I guess it took one to know one.
>
> I'm guessing that he is grooming her to be the next president.
She should be grooming their new dog that they named after the President.
Pig Brick
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0318d855-23c4-4059...@d4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
Are you saying Obama wants what's left of the working population to go on
strike?
Gunner Asch
<sbm...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
>Ever hear of the 2001 recession, idiot? The one that seemed to go on
>forever?
Yes, I did. It was started by Clinton (need the cites?) and then 911 hit
and nearly dumped us into a depression. Fortunately Bush gave us the
cure and 7 yrs of marvelous growth.
>
>And the financial crisis started on Bush's watch, idiot. The economy
>was already down the shitter when Obama took office. Only now has it
>started to show signs of improvement.
Really? Thats odd...even the leftwing media claims you are wrong..and
signs of improvement? ROFLMAO.s..we are headed down, down, down farther
into the drain...and we may never refloat.
Improvement??? Which planet are you posting from???
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
pyotr filipivich
12:59:28 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:12:53 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
><rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Odd..on the planet Earth, Bill left during a deep recession,
>>>>
>>>>Lie
>>>
>>> http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/20/190717.shtml
>>>
>>> It appears you are as dumb as a box of rocks. Or a Useful Idiot of
>>> your Democrat handlers.
>>>>
>>>>>and Hillary ran for president.
>>>>
>>>>She's a US Senator
>>>
>>> She is now.
>>
>
>
>early....chuckle.
>
>Anyways...it simply backs my statement that Obama claimed she had NO
>foreign policy experience, then made her head of foreign policy .
Hey, you're liberal now, what do details like that really matter?
The Messiah said she was not qualified to be president, but God knows
she can be SecState.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Gunner Asch
Excellent question. I reverted back to my Conservative roots again.
But hey..if I can be a citizen of two nations..I can be both a Public
Liberal and a Conservative..right?
THis is gonna get reallly confusing.
>
>
>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
Dan
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:13:03 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
> <jcarroll@ubu,machiningsolution.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:K5c4m.9945$Il....@newsfe16.iad...
>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:32 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry pal..we were doing good for virtually all of Bush's 2 terms,
>>> Interesting. The BEST we did was recover to Bill's level in the major
>>> stock markets, due solely to the business of war. People were doing so
>>> well they had to refinance their mortgages to pay their bills...
>> The American economy had lost two million jobs net between Bush's
>> assuming office and when ran for reelection in 2004. Not exactly a
>> sterling record.
>>
>> JC
>
> Not only jobs that were lost but many will never return plus you have the
> million or so new entrants to the job market and underemployed.
>
And well over half of the jobs that were actually created during his
>>8<< years were, um, evil government jobs...
Dan
Curly Surmudgeon
And the same fuckheads who put Bush into office want more of the same...
Or worse, Palin.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:26:57 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>You really really are a dimwitted buffoon.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review
>>"It is usually considered the center of intellectual activity for the
>>American Conservative movement in the twentieth century."
>>
>>As usual you cite a right wing propaganda rag.
>>
>>>Really.
>>>
>>>Gunner
>>
>>It's just as useless as you are.
>
>Because it says you are a brainless buffoon? Lands sakes son...everyone
>thinks you are a brainless buffoon, so whats the problem?
In here, yes. So what? This is a group of juvenile right wingnuts who
are, when confronted the biggest sissies in your neighborhood. Do you
really think I care what you think of me? This is the fucking
Internet. You guys are so wrapped up in this BECUASE no one agrees
with you in real life. This is the only spot you've found where there
are myopic pussies like yourselves. This is your No Girls Allowed club
house and it's a hoot to visit!
>You..a spineless usenet poster are claiming to be smarter than all the
>really smart people who write for that magazine?
Nope. Never said that at all. Why do you lie so often?
>Snicker....chortle...laugh...chuckle...ROFLMAO!!!!
>
>Ok, (wiping tears from my eyes)...whats the punch line? Or was that
>your whole routine?
>
>You are funny as any retard Ive ever met!! Can you do the napkin trick
>too?
>
>Gunner
You're a very scared old man. The world is changing and you can't
handle change. You will die alone. And that's sad. Very sad.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:07 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>>>>money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded on
>>>>>with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>>>
>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>
>>Decades at best. It will take that long to erase the decisions of the
>>Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
>
>Bush was president for 20 yrs????????
I'm guessing that's about how long they last on the court.
>Fascinating!!!!
Nah..you just didn't understand what I meant. That's ok.
>And which decisions will you be trying to erase? Keep in mind you
>only have 2.2-3 yrs to do it, and once you are dead, we go back to the
>Default settings on the Constitution anyways. Shrug.
>
>Gunner
Lookout
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:07 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> They decided they were invincible and Bush and them spent too much
>>>>>> money, a mistake that Obama and Democrats have embraced and expanded on
>>>>>> with spending like the planet has never before seen.
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>> The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>> generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>> Decades at best. It will take that long to erase the decisions of the
>>> Supreme Court over the past 20 years.
>>
>> Bush was president for 20 yrs????????
>
>No, why would you think that (it's actually been a Republican Supreme
>Court for the best part of 40 years).
>
>> Fascinating!!!!
>
>You sure are (and not in the good sense of the word).
>
>> And which decisions will you be trying to erase? Keep in mind you
>> only have 2.2-3 yrs to do it,
>
>And then what?
>
>> and once you are dead, we go back to the
>> Default settings on the Constitution anyways. Shrug.
>
>So you are admitting up front that the Republican coup will be (has
>been?) an abject failure, and liberals will rule the country. Ah, if it
>were only so...
>
>Dan
We all know the Founding Fathers were conservatives, right?
Lookout
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>>>
>>>
>>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>>
>>>doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue to
>>>destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan of
>>>course.
>>
>> That's all they have.
>> Oh..and Palin :)
>
>And abstinence while letting your 16-year old daughter bring her
>fuckbuddy to live in your house...
While I agree with her being a little slut I have trouble with the
'fuck buddy" line.
Lookout
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>
>>>we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>>
>>>doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue
>>>to destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan
>>>of course.
>>
>>That's all they have.
>>Oh..and Palin :)
>
>
>So you are claiming that the Democrat controlled Congress and the
>Democrat President are simply puppets of da ebil Republicans?
Nope. You're lying again. I never said that.
Is reading comprehension really that much of a problem for you? No
wonder you have to have group make up your mind for you. You can't
read anything with getting it wrong.
>ROFLMAO!!!!
>
>Bravo!!
>
>Reading your posts is better than whats on the boob tube!!
>
>Gunner
Lookout
wrote:
>
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:phe05559ddppgmsah...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:28:35 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:19 -0600, hal wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:51:10 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
>>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> YOU elected an idiot and WE paid for it.
>>>>
>>>>we will be paying for the Bush's for decades.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The United States of America will pay for the Bush administration for
>>>>>generations. If the nation survives intact.
>>>>
>>>>doubt it. The only question remains how the right wing can continue
>>>>to destroy the nation and let Obama take the blame. That's the plan
>>>>of course.
>>>
>>>That's all they have.
>>>Oh..and Palin :)
>>
>>
>> So you are claiming that the Democrat controlled Congress and the
>> Democrat President are simply puppets of da ebil Republicans?
>>
>> ROFLMAO!!!!
>>
>> Bravo!!
>>
>> Reading your posts is better than whats on the boob tube!!
>>
>
>GWB is pulling their puppet strings. The libs thought they voted him out,
>but little did they know...
And he's done such a good job the last 2 elections!
What a fucking idiot you are.