Powderkeg USA
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32dd1f24...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>
>>> I once heard that a British tourist ask a gardener at George Washington's
>home
>>> if "old George" had gotten any plants from the British? To which the gardener
>>> replied "Why yes he did. In fact he got this whole country from the British!
>>
>>Just the East Coast. The rest you guys conquered on your own. Oh, and
>>making a smart remark to a foreign tourist isn't in the same league as
>>lacking even a basic knowledge of history and geography.
>
> Oh yeah, I forgot about your superior euro-education system. That
>explains why GB is beating our pants off on the world market.
Why don't you take a look at the Fortune 100 index, then work out which
country has a higher percentage in that list, based on population.
You'll see that the Brits are indeed beating your pants off.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
23k
In article <32de516d...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:07:36 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Thomas Steegmann wrote:
>>>
>>> We're still waiting. GB slipped from #1 world economic power to
>>> what, #21 in under 100 years. Our economy has been growing steadily
>>> for quite a few years now. How about yours? I'll do you a favor and
>>> buy some brit beer this weekend, since that's the only thing the GB
>>> produces that can be bought here.
>>
>>This is exactly the kind of dumb American jingoism that embarrases the
>>rest of us.
>>
>>The world isn't about national rivalries.
>
> The poster I was replying to, if you had bothered to read the whole
>post before you shot your mouth off, warned us to 'watch out' once the
>european economies heat up, that they would be of some sort of threat
>to America and/or the American economy. I was pointing out how silly
>his case was/is. Who brought up the national rivalry issue? It's
>almost always a euroweenie telling us how their nation leads the world
>in some obscure statistic like number of students aged 14-17 who have
>taken 3 years of french history, and how that makes them better than
>America. Whatever. You can genuflect to Europe anytime you want.
>I'm glad my ancestors left there when they did.
Me too.
> On the net, it is
>totally PC to trash the US if you are european, but any American that
>suggests that maybe it isn't so bad here gets this bullshit.
>
>>
>>The UK isn't perfect, neither is the US. The UK lost the title of
>>"world's biggest GDP" in 1874 to the US. This statistic, in isolation,
>>is meaningless.
>
> Once again, in regards to what the other poster said, it is not
>meaningless. We were being warned about the EU and what a juggernaut
>it will eventually become. Of course, by the time the EU get their
>act together, the pacific rim nations and the NAFTA nations will be
>light years ahead of them.
Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
With a murder rate of 56,000 per annum there probaly won't be many
people left (except for those living in citadels).
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
'Si vis pacem, para bellum'
- if you long for peace, then prepare for war!
'Cantabit vacuus coram latrone viator'
- the traveller without possessions will
laugh at robbers
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Chris Morton
23k wrote:
> Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
> Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
> white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
> Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Let's play "spot the Stalinist".
This is a surefire way to tell, since the only items of any value to a
Stalinist are tanks, guns, planes and the heavy machinery used to create
them.
Wanting a better life (heat, light, decent clothing, wholesome food,
entertainment)
is called "consumerism", since the Stalinist can neither provide guns
and butter, nor
admit that failing.
Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia
In contribution <32e9de15...@news.netheaven.com>, the honourable t...@uFaa.com
stated:
>On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:07:06 -0500, Chris Morton <cm...@nwohio.com>
>wrote:
>>23k wrote:
>If
>you were building an army, where would you buy your equipment from?
>Well, if you wanted quality stuff, there's only one place to buy from.
Sweden !
>I saw a french rap video
>the other day on the local public access station. What a laugh.
>Nothing funnier than a skinny french guy dressed up in leather and a
>beret(!) and sunglasses trying to look and sing tough. It looked like
>something on sesame street.
yes, rap is embarrasing.
uh. didn't you guys INVENT it, actually ?
>Tom Steegmann
igor
Thomas Steegmann
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:28:51 +0000, 23k <2...@coolbong.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
>Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
>white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
>Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
>With a murder rate of 56,000 per annum there probaly won't be many
>people left (except for those living in citadels).
Sounds like someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
I'll address your first point last. At 56k murders a year, it would
take 5000+ years to kill off today's population, without replacement.
I know those are big numbers for you. Perhaps your grade 13 teacher
could explain them to you. The US has lost many blue collar jobs,
but still has a larger manufacturing sector than any other country.
As far as what is produced in the US, if you consider cars, airplanes,
computers, steel, food products, etc as 'consumer shit' than you are
an idiot. Well, you are an idiot anyways. Why don't you tell us what
GB produces that is so critical to the world economy? Jaguars? You
see one of those every few months. Not really very good cars for the
price. That fact is supported pretty well by sales numbers. How about
those brit computers? Or those brit foods? Yeah, whatever. You had
your 15 minutes. You don't have to be so jealous just because the US
produces more manufatured goods AND food than any other country.
Thomas Steegmann
>23k wrote:
>
>> Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
>> Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
>> white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
>> Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Let's play "spot the Stalinist".
>
>This is a surefire way to tell, since the only items of any value to a
>Stalinist are tanks, guns, planes and the heavy machinery used to create
>them.
Of course, even by that measure, the US is tops in the world. If
you were building an army, where would you buy your equipment from?
Well, if you wanted quality stuff, there's only one place to buy from.
>
>Wanting a better life (heat, light, decent clothing, wholesome food,
>entertainment)
>is called "consumerism", since the Stalinist can neither provide guns
>and butter, nor
>admit that failing.
Don't bring up entertainment. You are sure to get a zillion letters
from euro jerks telling you how much better brit and french
entertainment products are (films!). Hollywood is shaking it its
boots over Jerry Louis and Fawlty Towers. I saw a french rap video
the other day on the local public access station. What a laugh.
Nothing funnier than a skinny french guy dressed up in leather and a
beret(!) and sunglasses trying to look and sing tough. It looked like
something on sesame street.
Tom Steegmann
Thomas Steegmann
On 21 Jan 1997 17:28:05 GMT, un6...@genius.embnet.dkfz-heidelberg.de
(Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia) wrote:
>In contribution <32e9de15...@news.netheaven.com>, the honourable t...@uFaa.com
>stated:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:07:06 -0500, Chris Morton <cm...@nwohio.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>23k wrote:
>
>>If
>>you were building an army, where would you buy your equipment from?
>>Well, if you wanted quality stuff, there's only one place to buy from.
>
>Sweden !
I'll give you that much. Sweden does produce some pretty killer
hardware, but their capacity if fairly limited.
>
>>I saw a french rap video
>>the other day on the local public access station. What a laugh.
>>Nothing funnier than a skinny french guy dressed up in leather and a
>>beret(!) and sunglasses trying to look and sing tough. It looked like
>>something on sesame street.
>
>yes, rap is embarrasing.
>uh. didn't you guys INVENT it, actually ?
Rap isn't by itself embarassing, but some dorky french guy trying
to look like a gangsta (beret!) was worth a laugh. The french ought
to stick to things they are good at, like eating duck and making wine,
oh and being punching bags for the Germans.
Morgoth
I do find that it is interesting to note how often "our"
interests, always seem to follow what the British and/or Israel
wants seems to be what the USA wants?
23k
In article <32E262...@nwohio.com>, Chris Morton <cm...@nwohio.com>
writes
>23k wrote:
>
>> Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
>> Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
>> white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
>> Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Let's play "spot the Stalinist".
>
>This is a surefire way to tell, since the only items of any value to a
>Stalinist are tanks, guns, planes and the heavy machinery used to create
>them.
>
>entertainment)
>is called "consumerism", since the Stalinist can neither provide guns
>and butter, nor
>admit that failing.
Lets play spot the brain-washed yank. Yanks consider 'a better life'
being able to buy wierd, useless consumer junk on the cable shopping
network, while outside the police beat a black teenager to death.
The average yank has a life similar to a factory farmed chicken. They
live in thier units, watching TV, eating burgers, chanting "I am free, I
am free" and occasionally placing a cross on piece of paper.
You yanks are remarkably simple-minded, but that's how your government
wants you.
Crew
t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann) wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:28:51 +0000, 23k <2...@coolbong.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>Go Bills!
>
More pithy arguements
THX-1138
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>
> --
> Epicene Wildeblood
I dont think I can agree with you entirely. MOST rap is shit. But I
happen to think the Beastie Boys and House of Pain , and even Cypress
Hill have a talent for making it sound good.
Oi
Chad
--
"A generation which ignores history has no past--and no future"
"If you don't like yourself, you cant like other people"
"A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate."
"You live and learn. Or you don't live long."
"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."
"The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
--Robert A Heinlein
Thomas Steegmann
On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:40:42 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32e50eea...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>
>>>>I saw a french rap video
>>>>the other day on the local public access station. What a laugh.
>>>>Nothing funnier than a skinny french guy dressed up in leather and a
>>>>beret(!) and sunglasses trying to look and sing tough. It looked like
>>>>something on sesame street.
>>>
>>>yes, rap is embarrasing.
>>>uh. didn't you guys INVENT it, actually ?
>>
>> Rap isn't by itself embarassing, but some dorky french guy trying
>>to look like a gangsta (beret!) was worth a laugh. The french ought
>>to stick to things they are good at, like eating duck and making wine,
>>oh and being punching bags for the Germans.
>
>No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
Hey, that's your opinion. Many many people disagree with you. Many
people who actually buy cds and tapes disagree with you. Are you
brits still mad that Oasis is the best that you can do? There's lots
of new creative rock and roll coming out of GB, as long as it sounds
like the Beatles, and the band dresses and act like the Beatles.
Popular music in the US has to some extent been driven by what the
'black' musicians are doing. Delta Blues, Motown, Hip Hop/Dance/Rap,
whatever. YOu see it first in the 'black' music community, then it
is slightly watered down and picked up by mainstream musicians. Don't
be such an ignorant euro-weenie.
THX-1138
sweety3 wrote:
> We as white aryans must preserve our race by putting up boundries
> between the aryans and other mongrol races.To say that you hate
> rap music but then say that you love the Beastie boys,the house of pain
> and cypress hill,is completly contradictive of the aryan race,Making
> you a traiter of the aryan race. 88.
Hell yeah, I am a race traitor. Not a traiter, by the way. Besides,
Aryan is not a race, it is an invention. Beasties rock, and they are
JEWS too!
Oi
Skinhead (race traitor) and Proud!
Chad
--
"A generation which ignores history has no past--and no future"
"If you don't like yourself, you cant like other people"
"A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate."
"You live and learn. Or you don't live long."
"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."
"The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
"In a society in which it is a moral offense to be different from your
neighbor your only escape is never to let
them find out."
"Man can be chained, but he cannot be domesticated. "
"No intelligent man has any respect for an unjust law"
"Progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. "
"If you pray hard enough, water will run uphill. How hard? Why, hard
enough to make water run uphill, of
course! "
"Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again. "
--Robert A Heinlein
sweety3
THX-1138 <THX-...@prodigy.net> writes: > Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> >
> > No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
> > bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
> >
> > Epicene Wildeblood
>
> I dont think I can agree with you entirely. MOST rap is shit. But I
> happen to think the Beastie Boys and House of Pain , and even Cypress
> Hill have a talent for making it sound good.
>
>
> Oi
> --
> "A generation which ignores history has no past--and no future"
> "If you don't like yourself, you cant like other people"
> "A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate."
> "You live and learn. Or you don't live long."
> "Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."
> "The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
> "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
>
Alan Miles
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
How thoughtful.
A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
generates a vast ancillary discussion.
Obviously, it covers good art and trash.
But this group says it is inherently bad. Eek.
Alan Miles
sweety3 wrote:
>
> We as white aryans must preserve our race by putting up boundries
> between the aryans and other mongrol races.
Could you please define "aryan" for me? This race thing seems pretty
arbitrary to me.
Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia
In contribution <32EAB7...@interport.net>, the honourable ami...@interport.net
stated:
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>How thoughtful.
>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions.
americans. AMERICANS.
>It generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>Obviously, it covers good art and trash.
no. its not art. its what americans call art. but that's not art.
>But this group says it is inherently bad. Eek.
it is bad. be honest.
igor
THX-1138
Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia wrote:
> >A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions.
>
> americans. AMERICANS.
Americans only? You are lying. Why do you think this thread contained a
message about a FRENCH rapper?
>
> >It generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>
> >Obviously, it covers good art and trash.
>
> no. its not art. its what americans call art. but that's not art.
>
you have no idea what art is. It is art, and so is a lot of stuff you
dont happen to like. I dont happen to like much rap, but it is still an
art form.
>
> it is bad. be honest.
>
that is a different story, on the whole, yes rap is pretty bad, but
that is just our opinion.
oi
chad
--
"A generation which ignores history has no past--and no future"
"If you don't like yourself, you cant like other people"
"A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate."
"You live and learn. Or you don't live long."
"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."
"The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
Maria Wardale
In message <33133127....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
kzqu...@usa.net writes:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:43:09 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net> wrote:
> >kzqu...@usa.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Every American is free to travel from any place, at any time, to any
> >> place in the country he or she wishes to go. No papers, no
Identification card,
> >> no nothing required...just pack it up and go MAMA!
> >>
> >> We realize that this concept is quite new to Europeans, but
since we've had it
> >> around for a few hundred years it's sort of old hat to us, just
one of those
> >> basic freedoms we gave ourselves you know.
Excuse me?
What do you mean the concept is new to Europeans?
As far as I am aware, I am perfectly free to travel throughout
England Scotland and Wales as much as I like and when I like without
any papers or cards.
As far as I am aware, I always have been.
OR am I missing something?
Maria
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32e9dd7c...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>
>>No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>>bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>
Correct.
> Many many people disagree with you. Many
>people who actually buy cds and tapes disagree with you.
Yeah - but lots of people buy Barry Manilow records, and that doesn't
mean he's any good. It just means the marketing is good. You see, the
young, impressionable, record buying, MTV watching kids buy whatever
MTV tells them. Good or bad. And right now, loads of good old songs are
being dredged up, brushed of and destroyed by dumbshit rap groups liek
"Warren G" and their ilk.
> Are you
>brits still mad that Oasis is the best that you can do? There's lots
>of new creative rock and roll coming out of GB, as long as it sounds
>like the Beatles, and the band dresses and act like the Beatles.
Nah - it's just that you guys haven't heard the good stuff yet. It's
like you don't let us watch your movies for six months after release, we
don't let you listen to the best bands.
>Popular music in the US has to some extent been driven by what the
>'black' musicians are doing. Delta Blues, Motown, Hip Hop/Dance/Rap,
>whatever. YOu see it first in the 'black' music community, then it
>is slightly watered down and picked up by mainstream musicians. Don't
>be such an ignorant euro-weenie.
Hardly. The majority of stuff coming out of the usa is soft funk and
soul orientated rap. Mainstream pap being marketed as "cool" by fifty
year old music biz millionaires with pony tails.
For real progressive music, you need to pay attention to the European
club and indie scenes.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
THX-1138
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
you.
>
> Yeah - but lots of people buy Barry Manilow records, and that doesn't
> mean he's any good. It just means the marketing is good.
Marketing is good for Barry Manilow? Oh yeah, all the commercials for
his records and MTV heavy rotation of his latest single...
> > Are you
> >brits still mad that Oasis is the best that you can do? There's lots
> >of new creative rock and roll coming out of GB, as long as it sounds
> >like the Beatles, and the band dresses and act like the Beatles.
>
> Nah - it's just that you guys haven't heard the good stuff yet. It's
> like you don't let us watch your movies for six months after release, we
> don't let you listen to the best bands.
Okay, six months ago , there wasn't much good from the UK, and there
still isn't now, where the hell are they?
>
> For real progressive music, you need to pay attention to the European
> club and indie scenes.
Yeah, where the British and Germans are pushing this thing called
"techno"..a fusion of electronic music and *gasp* RAP!
Oi
Chad
Skinhead, American, and Proud of Both.
Listener to whatever music I feel like.
--
<Be Sure to Stay at Holiday Inn>
Thomas Steegmann
On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:47:54 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
wrote:
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>
>How thoughtful.
>
>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>
>Obviously, it covers good art and trash.
>
>But this group says it is inherently bad. Eek.
Well, there you have it. The Eurotrash are angry because America
has come up with ANOTHER thing that they can't/don't understand. Just
wait, now some brit will come on and tell us all that rap was invented
in GB. Watch...
Prince Vermillion
In article <32e9dd7c...@news.netheaven.com>,
stee...@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us wrote:
> Hey, that's your opinion. Many many people disagree with you. Many
> people who actually buy cds and tapes disagree with you. Are you
> brits still mad that Oasis is the best that you can do? There's lots
> of new creative rock and roll coming out of GB, as long as it sounds
> like the Beatles, and the band dresses and act like the Beatles.
Ummm...no. Oasis was the best American audiences could find. In Britain,
you have not watered-down Beatles, but some pretty good IDM a la Orbital
or The Prodigy.
The underground scene blows everything else out of the water, of course.
> Popular music in the US has to some extent been driven by what the
> 'black' musicians are doing. Delta Blues, Motown, Hip Hop/Dance/Rap,
> whatever. YOu see it first in the 'black' music community, then it
> is slightly watered down and picked up by mainstream musicians. Don't
> be such an ignorant euro-weenie.
"Slightly" watered down? Oh my. Grandmaster Flash is turning in his grave,
and he's still alive. Somebody help him.
- Dave, the merkin aficiondo of British music
--
David Sticher
subdued yet genial amusement
[at]
On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:42:26 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
wrote:
>Popular music in the US has to some extent been driven by what the
>'black' musicians are doing. Delta Blues, Motown, Hip Hop/Dance/Rap,
>whatever. YOu see it first in the 'black' music community, then it
>is slightly watered down and picked up by mainstream musicians. Don't
>be such an ignorant euro-weenie.
Delta blues, good; motown, ok; the rest, stick it where the sun don't
shine. Just because it's black doesn't make it good. The same
ethnicity that gave the world Jimi Hendrix also gave it Dennis Rodman.
Good, bad, ugly, just like the rest of humanity.
--
Down With Slogans!
The Shoe
Let's take a poll. I think he's about 14 years old.
> I hear the swedish control knobs look like well, little helmut shaped
> things or something. I dunno. A universal symbol of sexual equivoque,
> perhaps?
> Hello alt.language.artifecal. This bud's for yew.
> I like you guys!
> > >Americans.
> >
> shapes of thing to cum?
The Shoe
Whose picture do you have in your room? Rockefeller? Ford? Or some
other robber baron? Or do you just have a framed map of Sweden and
Arabia?
> I'd just threaten to raise my interest rate on their loan for getting
> smart with me, and ask if most americans really do have pencil sized
> dicks. Especially those mexican ones.
>
> --
> ;^)
--
Steve Hix
In article 7SA2UX...@coolbong.demon.co.uk, 23k <2...@coolbong.demon.co.uk> writes:
:In article <32E262...@nwohio.com>, Chris Morton <cm...@nwohio.com>
:writes
:>23k wrote:
:>
:>> Err right! The USA will soon have one person in every 200 in prison.
:>> Most of your blue collar jobs will have gone to Mexico, a lot of your
:>> white collar work(esp programmers) will go to India. Most of the
:>> Amerikan GDP is consumer shit that has a very limited usefulness.
:> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:>
:>Let's play "spot the Stalinist".
:>
:>This is a surefire way to tell, since the only items of any value to a
:>Stalinist are tanks, guns, planes and the heavy machinery used to create
:>them.
:>
:>Wanting a better life (heat, light, decent clothing, wholesome food,
:>entertainment)
:>is called "consumerism", since the Stalinist can neither provide guns
:>and butter, nor
:>admit that failing.
:
:Lets play spot the brain-washed yank. Yanks consider 'a better life'
:being able to buy wierd, useless consumer junk on the cable shopping
:network, while outside the police beat a black teenager to death.
:The average yank has a life similar to a factory farmed chicken. They
:live in thier units, watching TV, eating burgers, chanting "I am free, I
:am free" and occasionally placing a cross on piece of paper.
:You yanks are remarkably simple-minded, but that's how your government
:wants you.
And "23k" proves that anencepalic wankers can be found on the east side of
the pond, too.
Van Meter
>
> Could you please define "aryan" for me? This race thing seems pretty
> arbitrary to me.
>
Anyone that you would feel safe turning your back to.
van meter
Thomas Steegmann
On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 02:02:30 +0000, 23k <2...@coolbong.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
Whatever. If you think that you have more room to roam and more
political freedom in GB, I suggest that you are the brainwashed one.
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32EAB7...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
<ami...@interport.net> writes
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>
>How thoughtful.
>
>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
Ever hear of a concept called "marketing" ?
--
Epicene Wildeblood
dckom
On 28 Jan 1997 14:46:49 GMT c.e., "Van Meter" <jo...@iaxis.net> wrote :
Wait a second here, are you saying if a black,jewish, mexican, etc. person
helps me out of a bad spot, or returns a favor they're aryan? I can think
of loads. And on the flip side, I can think of several "white" folks that
have done me real disservices, ranging from borrowing money and not paying
it back, to out right theft.So, by what you said, despite the skin color,
they're not aryan, right? It's good to know these things.
David
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Free thought, neccessarily involving freedom of
speech and press, I may tersely define thus:no
opinion a law-no opinion a crime.
Alexander Berkman
Thomas Steegmann
We sure have. Every lame ass brit band that sold a record in the US
have also heard of it. We're supposed to like it because it's
Brittish. You know, old, quaint, stuffy, useless.
>
>--
>Epicene Wildeblood
Maria Wardale
In message <199701271...@zetnet.co.uk>
Maria Wardale <mar...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:
> In message <33133127....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
> kzqu...@usa.net writes:
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:43:09 -0500, Alan Miles
<ami...@interport.net> wrote:
> > >kzqu...@usa.net wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Every American is free to travel from any place, at any time, to any
> > >> place in the country he or she wishes to go. No papers, no
> Identification card,
> > >> no nothing required...just pack it up and go MAMA!
> > >>
> > >> We realize that this concept is quite new to Europeans, but
> since we've had it
> > >> around for a few hundred years it's sort of old hat to us, just
> one of those
> > >> basic freedoms we gave ourselves you know.
> Excuse me?
> What do you mean the concept is new to Europeans?
> As far as I am aware, I am perfectly free to travel throughout
> England Scotland and Wales as much as I like and when I like without
> any papers or cards.
> As far as I am aware, I always have been.
> OR am I missing something?
> Maria
Maria Again.
I'll try again,
or are you all so busy over there tsking the piss and insulting
everybody that you can't be bothered to reply?
QUESTION; I live in the uk. How am I not free to travel about in my
own country the same as you are without papers and shit?
Answer please, or don't say it.
Maria
Maria Wardale
In message <32ef52d4...@news.netheaven.com>
t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann) writes:
> On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:57 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
> <wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >In article <32EAB7...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
> ><ami...@interport.net> writes
> >>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
> >>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
> >>
> >>How thoughtful.
> >>
> >>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
> >>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
> >
> >Ever hear of a concept called "marketing" ?
> We sure have. Every lame ass brit band that sold a record in the US
> have also heard of it. We're supposed to like it because it's
> Brittish. You know, old, quaint, stuffy, useless.
Such as?
I shouldn't think you get to hear most of the decent bands from the UK.
Problem; for so long the UK chart has been filled with yank music;
any decent brit bands don't get the airplay.
The Brit general public don't get to hear the decent Britbands either.
So they don't buy it and the decent bands don't go to the US.
Thankfully over the last year or so, this trend is changing with less
yank music and more Indie Brit stuff.
So you got Oasis. Some of us couldn't wait to get rid of them.
If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
Maria
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32ef52d4...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:57 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <32EAB7...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
>><ami...@interport.net> writes
>>>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>>>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>>>
>>>How thoughtful.
>>>
>>>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>>>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>>
>>Ever hear of a concept called "marketing" ?
>
> We sure have. Every lame ass brit band that sold a record in the US
>have also heard of it. We're supposed to like it because it's
>Brittish. You know, old, quaint, stuffy, useless.
Well there you go - we're "supposed" to like it. I think that just about
says it all. The approach is obviously working.
You fuckers are just sooooooo dumb. You always do what you are
"supposed" to, buy what you are "supposed" to, think what you are
"supposed" to.
>
>
>>
>>--
>>Epicene Wildeblood
>
>
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32ECC8...@prodigy.net>, THX-1138 <THX-...@prodigy.net>
writes
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>you.
>>
>> Yeah - but lots of people buy Barry Manilow records, and that doesn't
>> mean he's any good. It just means the marketing is good.
>
>Marketing is good for Barry Manilow? Oh yeah, all the commercials for
>his records and MTV heavy rotation of his latest single...
Different channels for different products, chad. He obviously has it
right - he sells a fuck of a lot of records. Heavy MTV play and large
advertising budgets are used mainly to convince pre-pubescents that the
latest cute boy band, or bad-ass rap group are the coolest thing since
sliced bread.
>
>
>> > Are you
>> >brits still mad that Oasis is the best that you can do? There's lots
>> >of new creative rock and roll coming out of GB, as long as it sounds
>> >like the Beatles, and the band dresses and act like the Beatles.
>>
>> Nah - it's just that you guys haven't heard the good stuff yet. It's
>> like you don't let us watch your movies for six months after release, we
>> don't let you listen to the best bands.
>
>Okay, six months ago , there wasn't much good from the UK, and there
>still isn't now, where the hell are they?
All over here matey. Why waste your creative juice trying to "crack"
america and bring culture to the peasants. It's a hard slog. Sure -
there's lots of money to be made, but you have to sell out to american
consumerism to do it. If you're not too greedy, you can have a great
income from the european market. After all - do you really need $100M as
opposed to $10M ?
>
>
>>
>> For real progressive music, you need to pay attention to the European
>> club and indie scenes.
>
>Yeah, where the British and Germans are pushing this thing called
>"techno"..a fusion of electronic music and *gasp* RAP!
Techno was hot five years ago. You see what I mean about you lot getting
things behind the times ? I know that bands such as the Prodigy are only
just getting airplay in the US - we've had this music for over five
years !!!
>
>Oi
>Chad
>Skinhead, American, and Proud of Both.
I think you are probably a little confused.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f3b2a0...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:47:54 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>>
>>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>>
>>How thoughtful.
>>
>>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>>
>>
>>But this group says it is inherently bad. Eek.
>
> Well, there you have it. The Eurotrash are angry because America
>has come up with ANOTHER thing that they can't/don't understand. Just
>wait, now some brit will come on and tell us all that rap was invented
>in GB. Watch...
>
Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
Thomas Steegmann
>In article <32f3b2a0...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:47:54 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>>>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>>>
>>>How thoughtful.
>>>
>>>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>>>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>>>
>>>Obviously, it covers good art and trash.
>>>
>>>But this group says it is inherently bad. Eek.
>>
>> Well, there you have it. The Eurotrash are angry because America
>>has come up with ANOTHER thing that they can't/don't understand. Just
>>wait, now some brit will come on and tell us all that rap was invented
>>in GB. Watch...
>>
>
>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
Thomas Steegmann
On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:35:27 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32ef52d4...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:57 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
>><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <32EAB7...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
>>><ami...@interport.net> writes
>>>>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No. (c)Rap by itself IS very embarrassing. Very, very embarrassing, very
>>>>> bad, very foolish and generally not worth a shit.
>>>>
>>>>How thoughtful.
>>>>
>>>>A new music art form emerges. It rivets the attention of millions. It
>>>>generates a vast ancillary discussion.
>>>
>>>Ever hear of a concept called "marketing" ?
>>
>> We sure have. Every lame ass brit band that sold a record in the US
>>have also heard of it. We're supposed to like it because it's
>>Brittish. You know, old, quaint, stuffy, useless.
>
>Well there you go - we're "supposed" to like it. I think that just about
>says it all. The approach is obviously working.
'fraid not. I haven't bought a brit CD in quite a while. No matter
how hard the powers that be want to suck up to the inbred self
proclaimed cultural overlords in Europe.
>
>You fuckers are just sooooooo dumb. You always do what you are
>"supposed" to, buy what you are "supposed" to, think what you are
>"supposed" to.
Nobody told me to buy Tool, Shootyz Groove, or 311. Since that
type of music is too heavy for your fragile eurowimps, I wouldn't
expect you to know what it is. Now run along to your discotheque and
prance around to your easy listening before someone gets hurt.
Thomas Steegmann
On 29 Jan 1997 15:26:52 GMT, mart...@oc.chalmers.se (Martin
Kjellstrand) wrote:
>In article <32fecfed...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, ad...@poboxes.com
>(Adam) wrote:
>
>> >Well, the Swedes did manage to hit a AEGIS cruiser undetected during
>> >an exercise...
>
>> Yeah...but throwing rock at them when they're tied up to a pier
>> doesn't count as a "real" war tactic.
>
>Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
Of course, if it had been for real, sweeden would still have another
1000 or so years before their land would be habitable again.
Geo
> steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
> www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
> Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
> MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
> If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
> Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
> 489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
> Go Bills!
Tom, good reply. I'm glad to see you're a Bills fan. What do you htink
of Kelly retiring? (on Thursday).
whiteboy
IJdo Dijkstra wrote:
>
> "Larry D. Shuman" <ld...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >She never did respond to my comment about the Swedes being cowards for
> >sitting out WW2. She was saying the Swedes were better pilots than
Well hell. They should be much better with all the 'joy stick'
experience.
I hear the swedish control knobs look like well, little helmut shaped
things or something. I dunno. A universal symbol of sexual equivoque,
perhaps?
Hello alt.language.artifecal. This bud's for yew.
I like you guys!
> >Americans.
>
shapes of thing to cum?
> Well, the Swedes did manage to hit a AEGIS cruiser undetected during
> an exercise...
>
>
> It's not like the US is that familiar with modern air warfare.
>
> IJdo Dijkstra aur...@xs4all.nl
> www.xs4all.nl/~aurora aur...@orion.xs4all.nl
> finger aur...@xs4all.nl for PGP public key
--
;^)
whiteboy
Larry D. Shuman wrote:
>
> > Well, the Swedes did manage to hit a AEGIS cruiser undetected during
> > an exercise...
> > > They have never fought a modern war.
> > It's not like the US is that familiar with modern air warfare.
> If I were a Swede, I would keep my mouth shut when people talk about
> war, courage, honor and all of that stuff.
I'd just threaten to raise my interest rate on their loan for getting
smart with me, and ask if most americans really do have pencil sized
dicks. Especially those mexican ones.
--
;^)
Thomas Steegmann
On 30 Jan 1997 09:39:11 GMT, mart...@oc.chalmers.se (Martin
Kjellstrand) wrote:
>In article <32fb8f12...@news.netheaven.com>,
>stee...@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us wrote:
>
>> >Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>> >'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
>
>> Of course, if it had been for real, sweeden would still have another
>> 1000 or so years before their land would be habitable again.
>
>Riiight. Like they'd dare to send nuclear missiles against a country
>situated pretty near to Russia and CIS... Suuure. Not to mention what it
>would cost them diplomatically, attacking a member of the EU in a war of
>nuclear agression...
>
>Reality check, please.
Of course, we'd never need to resort to that. The sweeds would be
kissing our asses within minutes. At any rate, don't be so sure that
it would be the US nuking you either.
T McDonald
In article <32f3a690...@news.netheaven.com>,
Thomas Steegmann <stee...@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us> wrote:
>On 30 Jan 1997 09:39:11 GMT, mart...@oc.chalmers.se (Martin
>Kjellstrand) wrote:
>
>>In article <32fb8f12...@news.netheaven.com>,
>>stee...@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us wrote:
>>
>>> >Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>>> >'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
>>
>>> Of course, if it had been for real, sweeden would still have another
>>> 1000 or so years before their land would be habitable again.
>>
>>Riiight. Like they'd dare to send nuclear missiles against a country
>>situated pretty near to Russia and CIS... Suuure. Not to mention what it
>>would cost them diplomatically, attacking a member of the EU in a war of
>>nuclear agression...
>>
>>Reality check, please.
>
> Of course, we'd never need to resort to that. The sweeds would be
>kissing our asses within minutes. At any rate, don't be so sure that
>it would be the US nuking you either.
Right. We could just dress up like Nazi's and march in. The Sweeds would
all get whiplash trying to see who could bend over backwards the fastest.
[at]
On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:59:53 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
wrote:
> Whatever. If you think that you have more room to roam and more
>political freedom in GB, I suggest that you are the brainwashed one.
Speaking, of course, as "A Subject of the Crown" rather than a free
citizen, right?
--
Down With Slogans!
Maria Wardale
In message <32f0fd0...@news.netonecom.net>
ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com ((Delete spam-buster ([at]) to
reply)) writes:
> --
> Down With Slogans!
Hmm.
I would be interested to know what (apart from gun carry obviously)
freedoms you have in the US that we don't have here.
I gather that fellatio is prohibited in some states isn't it?
Bet you're really glad you're free.
Maria
Firestarter
On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:50:18 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
wrote:
>>sweety3 wrote:
>> We as white aryans must preserve our race by putting up boundries
>> between the aryans and other mongrol races.
>
>Could you please define "aryan" for me? This race thing seems pretty
>arbitrary to me.
"Aryan" originally means from Germanic descent, ie people from Germany
and The Netherlands. Therefore I have to laugh when I see people from
the U.K. and the people with obvious Anglosaxon names from U.S. call
themselves Aryans, since in the way Hitler and the rest of the fucking
Nazi's devised it "Aryan" means Germanic, period. Hitler did not
consider Anglo-saxons to be "Aryans". It just goes to show how stupid
people like sweety3 (c'mon, what is your real name?) and those other
Nazi's are! So, think about this when you call "non-Aryan" "mongrel
races"!
Martijn,
who's "Aryan" but not proud of it! I am however proud to be Dutch and
a member of the human race (of which I don't conside sweety3 and the
other members of his substandard fascist species to be part of!).
MaTT_SMiT
> Nobody told me to buy Tool, Shootyz Groove, or 311. Since that
>type of music is too heavy for your fragile eurowimps, I wouldn't
>expect you to know what it is. Now run along to your discotheque and
>prance around to your easy listening before someone gets hurt.
You really are in blissful ignorance of pathetic you sound.
Maybe people don't listen to that "music" because they don't want to??
Don't because it is "too heavy".
Regards
MaTT_SMiT
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f98dfe...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
>>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
>
> OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
>US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
>American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
UK.
Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
BTW - american culture ? Get real.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32fa8e67...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>
> Nobody told me to buy Tool, Shootyz Groove, or 311. Since that
>type of music is too heavy for your fragile eurowimps, I wouldn't
>expect you to know what it is. Now run along to your discotheque and
>prance around to your easy listening before someone gets hurt.
I thin kthat "tool" just about sums you up.
>
>
>
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Nightweb
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> In article <32f98dfe...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
> <t...@uFaa.com> writes
> >>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
> >>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
> >
> > OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
> >US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
> >American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
>
> Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
> probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
> UK.
>
> Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>
Thomas Steegmann
>In article <32f98dfe...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
>>>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
>>
>> OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
>>US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
>>American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
>
>
>Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
>probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
>UK.
First, I'm not little by any strech of the imagination. Especially
when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here? In fact, I
can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here. Of course, they are owned by ford
anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>
>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
least we could do.
>
>BTW - american culture ? Get real.
Yeah, get real. Those brit movies do so well internationally.
Must be why Hollywood makes more money outside the US than inside.
You eurolosers can't get enough lousy hollywood movies.
>--
>Epicene Wildeblood
Nice made up name. Just another British mamas boy.
Eisen Chao
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Firestarter (mjan...@xs4all.nl) wrote:
: >>sweety3 wrote:
: >> We as white aryans must preserve our race by putting up boundries
: >> between the aryans and other mongrol races.
: >
: >Could you please define "aryan" for me? This race thing seems pretty
: >arbitrary to me.
:
: "Aryan" originally means from Germanic descent, ie people from Germany
: and The Netherlands. Therefore I have to laugh when I see people from
: the U.K. and the people with obvious Anglosaxon names from U.S. call
: themselves Aryans, since in the way Hitler and the rest of the fucking
: Nazi's devised it "Aryan" means Germanic, period.
And I have to laugh at clueless Dutchie Fuckheads, ignorant
of their TRUE racial origins. You Dutchies have bent over
for EVERY ONE of the innumerable foreign invaders for
the past millenium...
: So, think about this when you call "non-Aryan" "mongrel
: races"!
Just shaddup for a moment and read this historical
account of that great American sailor, John Paul-Jones,
fresh from his monumental ass-kicking of that symbol
of British seapower, the SERAPIS:
On board the SERAPIS as his prize, Jones headed
east for Holland and, after a ten day's crippled
sail, limped into the Texel on October 3. His
destination requiring shelter in a neutral harbor
for his captive ship and the provisioning and care
of the wounded and guard of his prisoners, was
certain to make trouble for Holland with the
British and it did, exacerbating the British
resentment that already existed.
Editor's note: Some Dutch will tell you
that it was the French and Dutch who
helped the nascent and aborning nation
of America. Nonsense! It was we AMERICANS
that so obviously saved their asses against
a towering and seemingly invincible
English empire! England was the Evil Empire
of that century, running amok over EVERYBODY.
We soon put an end to that!
The Dutch people are for us, Jones reported, and
Adams relayed his words in a letter to Congress.
"Every day the blessed women come to the ships
in great numbers, mothers, daughters, even little
girls, bringing with them for our wounded all
the numberless little comforts of Dutch homes,
Editor's note: And not even charging
John Paul Jones and his crew for "it"
either! As anyone who is worldly
knows, that combined with 'swallowing it'
is indeed a sign of affection.
a tribute that came from the hearts of the people
and therefore far overlaid in effect all statecraft
and all diplomacy against us."
From Barbara Tuchman's "The First Salute", pg 84
Chap 6 'The Dutch and the English: Another War',
ISBN 0-345-33667-4
Editor's Note: and with that closing remark
I'd like to bring my two surprise guest
historical commentators for their final
insights:
BUTTHEAD: Hey Beavis, he said LAID, he-he-uh-huh ..
BEAVIS: He-he-he-huh-he-heee-uh-huh-huhu hee
: Martijn,
:
: who's "Aryan" but not proud of it!
More like the potential bastard offspring of
horny American sea-dogs...
: I am however proud to be Dutch and
: a member of the human race (of which I don't conside sweety3 and the
: other members of his substandard fascist species to be part of!).
Really ? So you're against Fascists, eh ?
Is that part AFTER or BEFORE you send Anne-Frank off to Dachau ?
And weren't the 25,000 Dutch volunteers for the SS Dutch also ?
I would have to say that they are part of your particular
branch of humanity, wether you want to admit to it or not ...
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f8475e...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:23:08 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <32f98dfe...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
>><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
>>>>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
>>>
>>> OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
>>>US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
>>>American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
>>
>>
>>Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
>>probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
>>UK.
>
> First, I'm not little by any strech of the imagination.
Sorry - thomas, you big fat overfed lardass bastard.
> Especially
>when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
>Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
>mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
>mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here?
Mutton ? I haven't eaten mutton in my life - come to think of it, I
don't know anyone that has. We prefer lamb. (That's a BABY sheep by the
way) And as for brit food - how can a yank even presume to talk about
cuisine ? You know nothing about it tommy. The american ideal of haute
cuisine is a double quarterpounder with cheese. So please - just fuck of
back to kindergarten until you learn something.
> In fact, I
>can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
>4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here.
> Of course, they are owned by ford
>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
Why do you tink Ford bought Jaguar ? Becuase you fat fucks just love the
snob value of British goods. That's why you buy Burberry clothes,
British audio components, expensive Brit motor cars, in fact - most of
you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>
>>
>>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>
> We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
>least we could do.
And the last time you looked at any relevant economic indicators must
have been - ooohhh - about 1990 ?
>
>>
>>BTW - american culture ? Get real.
>
> Yeah, get real. Those brit movies do so well internationally.
>Must be why Hollywood makes more money outside the US than inside.
>You eurolosers can't get enough lousy hollywood movies.
And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
>
>
>>--
>>Epicene Wildeblood
>
> Nice made up name. Just another British mamas boy.
Yo mama.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
[at]
On Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:42:40 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
wrote:
>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
Let's not go dragging The Prince of Darkness into the fray.
--
Down With Slogans!
Thomas Steegmann
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:00:31 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32f8475e...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>On Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:23:08 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
>><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <32f98dfe...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
>>><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>>>Don't be silly. we only claim to invent items of worth. Not pap crap rap
>>>>>or other shite like pet rocks, big macs etc..
>>>>
>>>> OK, so which is doing better, McDonalds in GB, or Mutton Hut in the
>>>>US? Just because stupid europeans cant help but suck up every drop of
>>>>American culture they can get doesn't mean you have to be so jealous.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
>>>probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
>>>UK.
>>
>> First, I'm not little by any strech of the imagination.
>
>Sorry - thomas, you big fat overfed lardass bastard.
You're pretty tough from 3000 miles, especially for a little brit
mamas boy.
>
>> Especially
>>when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
>>Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
>>mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
>>mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here?
>
>Mutton ? I haven't eaten mutton in my life - come to think of it, I
>don't know anyone that has. We prefer lamb. (That's a BABY sheep by the
>way) And as for brit food - how can a yank even presume to talk about
>cuisine ? You know nothing about it tommy. The american ideal of haute
>cuisine is a double quarterpounder with cheese. So please - just fuck of
>back to kindergarten until you learn something.
Fuck of back to kindergarten? Whatever. You are the ignorant one
here. It's well know the world around how bad brit food is, like it
or not, mamas boy.
>
>> In fact, I
>>can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
>>4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here.
>
>> Of course, they are owned by ford
>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>
>Why do you tink Ford bought Jaguar ? Becuase you fat fucks just love the
>snob value of British goods. That's why you buy Burberry clothes,
>British audio components, expensive Brit motor cars, in fact - most of
>you guys are drooling anglophiles.
We are such drooling anglophiles. I couldn't find something made
in GB if I tried. You don't build anything useful. Ford bought jaguar
because it cost them next to nothing. They have regretted the
purchase since they did it. Jaguar, and all other brit car companies
are outdated, poorly engineered and badly managed. Even the French
(ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) make better cars than you do. Nobody buys
anything made in GB because it's all useless crap. Sorry mamas boy.
>>
>>>
>>>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>>
>> We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
>>least we could do.
>
>And the last time you looked at any relevant economic indicators must
>have been - ooohhh - about 1990 ?
So you've moved up from 19th on the GDP list since 1990? Won't be
long, Ireland will pass you. That's pretty funny. What will you do
mama's boy? Maybe you could have some tea and crumpets, and reminice
about GB's glory days.
>>
>>>
>>>BTW - american culture ? Get real.
>>
>> Yeah, get real. Those brit movies do so well internationally.
>>Must be why Hollywood makes more money outside the US than inside.
>>You eurolosers can't get enough lousy hollywood movies.
>
>And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
>movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
Whatever. The facts speak for themselves. Obviosly more brits
like American movies than brit movies. Too bad for you mama's boy.
Suck it up and go watch some good hollywood fare. You know you can't
resist. Don't be so bitter just because you have no entertainment
industry, or any other industry. Tough luck, mama's boy.
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>Epicene Wildeblood
>>
>> Nice made up name. Just another British mamas boy.
>
>Yo mama.
Can't come up with anything better than that, mama's boy?
Thomas Steegmann
On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 07:41:25 GMT, ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com ((Delete
spam-buster ([at]) to reply)) wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:42:40 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
>wrote:
>
>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>
>Let's not go dragging The Prince of Darkness into the fray.
In a way, it worked out for GB. Since they didn't have any way to
keep things cool, they had to develop better beer, that would taste
good at room temp. Here in the US, with the ability to keep food and
drinks cold (you brits ought to buy some american refridgerators, they
are neat, no more having to kill you food when you want to eat), our
beer became sub standard.
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f984c5...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 07:41:25 GMT, ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com ((Delete
>spam-buster ([at]) to reply)) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:42:40 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>>
>>Let's not go dragging The Prince of Darkness into the fray.
>
> In a way, it worked out for GB. Since they didn't have any way to
>keep things cool, they had to develop better beer, that would taste
>good at room temp. Here in the US, with the ability to keep food and
>drinks cold (you brits ought to buy some american refridgerators, they
>are neat, no more having to kill you food when you want to eat), our
>beer became sub standard.
Why should we buy american refridgerators ? What possible benefit could
they have over European appliances ?
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f88275...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>>
>>>>Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
>>>>probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
>>>>UK.
>>>
>>> First, I'm not little by any strech of the imagination.
>>
>>Sorry - thomas, you big fat overfed lardass bastard.
>
> You're pretty tough from 3000 miles, especially for a little brit
>mamas boy.
>
You know tommy, the use of the word's "mamas boy" doesn't rile me. For a
start, how do you know I'm a boy ? Secondly - don't we all have mothers
? Apart from maybe you - who obviously started life abandoned and
stuffed down the back of a ladies toilet in Hoboken.
As for pretty tough - well, let's just say that brains can outwit brawn
any day. Even though - it's nice to be able to protect myself as a last
resort. So - tough, who knows ? Compared to who ? However - every time I
have had to resort to violence, it has always been spectacularly
effective. The key tommy, is to use dirty tricks - first.
>
>>
>>> Especially
>>>when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
>>>Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
>>>mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
>>>mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here?
>>
>>Mutton ? I haven't eaten mutton in my life - come to think of it, I
>>don't know anyone that has. We prefer lamb. (That's a BABY sheep by the
>>way) And as for brit food - how can a yank even presume to talk about
>>cuisine ? You know nothing about it tommy. The american ideal of haute
>>cuisine is a double quarterpounder with cheese. So please - just fuck of
>>back to kindergarten until you learn something.
>
> Fuck of back to kindergarten? Whatever. You are the ignorant one
>here. It's well know the world around how bad brit food is, like it
>or not, mamas boy.
Oh really ? Just like it's well known around the world that all yanks
are fat, ignorant pigs. Ever hear of stereotypes ?
It's also well known around the world (to those that know of course -
which obviously doesn't include you) that a high proportion of the
worlds greatest and most innovative chefs are resident in the UK. and I
know for a fact that Gordon Ramsey didn't cook mutton for me last week.
So shut your mouth until you learn about the subject.
Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
>
>>
>>> In fact, I
>>>can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
>>>4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here.
>>
>>> Of course, they are owned by ford
>>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>>
>>Why do you tink Ford bought Jaguar ? Becuase you fat fucks just love the
>>snob value of British goods. That's why you buy Burberry clothes,
>>British audio components, expensive Brit motor cars, in fact - most of
>>you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>
> We are such drooling anglophiles. I couldn't find something made
>in GB if I tried. You don't build anything useful. Ford bought jaguar
>because it cost them next to nothing. They have regretted the
>purchase since they did it. Jaguar, and all other brit car companies
>are outdated, poorly engineered and badly managed. Even the French
>(ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) make better cars than you do. Nobody buys
>anything made in GB because it's all useless crap. Sorry mamas boy.
You just can't afford of the high dollar imported British luxury goods.
Don't be jealous fat boy - just keep flipping the burgers and saving the
money. Who knows - I might send you a Church's mail order catalogue for
Christmas. After all , you must get sore feet standing by that grill all
day.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>>>
>>> We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
>>>least we could do.
>>
>>And the last time you looked at any relevant economic indicators must
>>have been - ooohhh - about 1990 ?
>
> So you've moved up from 19th on the GDP list since 1990? Won't be
>long, Ireland will pass you. That's pretty funny. What will you do
>mama's boy? Maybe you could have some tea and crumpets, and reminice
>about GB's glory days.
Maybe i'll just get on with my life. I have one, you see. It involves
making lots more money than you are ever likely to see, whilst at the
same time enjoying myself by indulging in whatever pursuits I choose.
Unlike you guys, we have a growing economy. My company is expanding
rapidly, business is booming. How are you doing, tommy ?
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>BTW - american culture ? Get real.
>>>
>>> Yeah, get real. Those brit movies do so well internationally.
>>>Must be why Hollywood makes more money outside the US than inside.
>>>You eurolosers can't get enough lousy hollywood movies.
>>
>>And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
>>movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
>
> Whatever. The facts speak for themselves. Obviosly more brits
>like American movies than brit movies.
How do you come up with this crap ?
>Too bad for you mama's boy.
>Suck it up and go watch some good hollywood fare. You know you can't
>resist. Don't be so bitter just because you have no entertainment
>industry, or any other industry. Tough luck, mama's boy.
Riight....the British film industry is doing very well thank you. We do
however, choose to make intelligent films dealing with real issues.
Typically - this doesn't appeal to american audiences unless there is
lots of violence and silicon enhanced bimbos. As you are aware, the
attention span of the average american is 12 minutes - this means that
your movies are all spasmodic action footage with no real content. Sure
- people go see crap yank movies, but we just don't take them seriously
like you guys do.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Epicene Wildeblood
>>>
>>> Nice made up name. Just another British mamas boy.
>>
>>Yo mama.
>
> Can't come up with anything better than that, mama's boy?
I don't need to. You make yourself look stupid without me even doing
anything.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Alan Miles
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> most of
> you guys are drooling anglophiles.
Wow. A few days ago we were Irish Repulican soldiers
> And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
> movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
Honey-
Please try to distinguish between your opinions and hard facts. If you
dislike American movies that's fine. Since they are blockbusters
worldwide you at least have to admit that your view is a minority one.
Alan Miles
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
Well let us know when you actually visit America so we can stop wasting
letters trying to convince you that your little world is fine and dandy,
but just a little world after all. I have never met an American who
would remotely think that a Big Mac, though delicious, is a culinary
high spot. Your bigoted little assumption is just that.
Thomas Steegmann
>In article <32f88275...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, Thomas my little friend, I'd have to say that Burger King is
>>>>>probably raking more money in in from the USA, than McDonalds is in the
>>>>>UK.
>>>>
>>>> First, I'm not little by any strech of the imagination.
>>>
>>>Sorry - thomas, you big fat overfed lardass bastard.
>>
>> You're pretty tough from 3000 miles, especially for a little brit
>>mamas boy.
>>
>
>You know tommy, the use of the word's "mamas boy" doesn't rile me. For a
>start, how do you know I'm a boy ? Secondly - don't we all have mothers
>? Apart from maybe you - who obviously started life abandoned and
>stuffed down the back of a ladies toilet in Hoboken.
>
>As for pretty tough - well, let's just say that brains can outwit brawn
>any day. Even though - it's nice to be able to protect myself as a last
>resort. So - tough, who knows ? Compared to who ? However - every time I
>have had to resort to violence, it has always been spectacularly
>effective. The key tommy, is to use dirty tricks - first.
Now I know you are european. Can't fight fair, eh? It's about
what I expected from a europussy.
>>
>>>
>>>> Especially
>>>>when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
>>>>Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
>>>>mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
>>>>mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here?
>>>
>>>Mutton ? I haven't eaten mutton in my life - come to think of it, I
>>>don't know anyone that has. We prefer lamb. (That's a BABY sheep by the
>>>way) And as for brit food - how can a yank even presume to talk about
>>>cuisine ? You know nothing about it tommy. The american ideal of haute
>>>cuisine is a double quarterpounder with cheese. So please - just fuck of
>>>back to kindergarten until you learn something.
>>
>> Fuck of back to kindergarten? Whatever. You are the ignorant one
>>here. It's well know the world around how bad brit food is, like it
>>or not, mamas boy.
>
>Oh really ? Just like it's well known around the world that all yanks
>are fat, ignorant pigs. Ever hear of stereotypes ?
>
>It's also well known around the world (to those that know of course -
>which obviously doesn't include you) that a high proportion of the
>worlds greatest and most innovative chefs are resident in the UK. and I
>know for a fact that Gordon Ramsey didn't cook mutton for me last week.
>So shut your mouth until you learn about the subject.
So what have the brits contributed to world cuisine? Mutton?
Diseased cow? warm beer? Crumpets?
>
>Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
Hardly.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> In fact, I
>>>>can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
>>>>4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here.
>>>
>>>> Of course, they are owned by ford
>>>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>>>
>>>Why do you tink Ford bought Jaguar ? Becuase you fat fucks just love the
>>>snob value of British goods. That's why you buy Burberry clothes,
>>>British audio components, expensive Brit motor cars, in fact - most of
>>>you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>>
>> We are such drooling anglophiles. I couldn't find something made
>>in GB if I tried. You don't build anything useful. Ford bought jaguar
>>because it cost them next to nothing. They have regretted the
>>purchase since they did it. Jaguar, and all other brit car companies
>>are outdated, poorly engineered and badly managed. Even the French
>>(ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) make better cars than you do. Nobody buys
>>anything made in GB because it's all useless crap. Sorry mamas boy.
>
>You just can't afford of the high dollar imported British luxury goods.
>Don't be jealous fat boy - just keep flipping the burgers and saving the
>money. Who knows - I might send you a Church's mail order catalogue for
>Christmas. After all , you must get sore feet standing by that grill all
>day.
Yeah, whatever. Just becasue you are one of the millions of
useless brits laying about doing nothing doesn't mean that you have to
disparage people who work for a living.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>>>>
>>>> We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
>>>>least we could do.
>>>
>>>And the last time you looked at any relevant economic indicators must
>>>have been - ooohhh - about 1990 ?
>>
>> So you've moved up from 19th on the GDP list since 1990? Won't be
>>long, Ireland will pass you. That's pretty funny. What will you do
>>mama's boy? Maybe you could have some tea and crumpets, and reminice
>>about GB's glory days.
>
>Maybe i'll just get on with my life. I have one, you see. It involves
>making lots more money than you are ever likely to see, whilst at the
>same time enjoying myself by indulging in whatever pursuits I choose.
>Unlike you guys, we have a growing economy. My company is expanding
>rapidly, business is booming. How are you doing, tommy ?
The US economy isn't only growing, it's leaving everyone else
behind at an accelerating rate. The only nation that will keep with
us in the next 100 years is China. I doubt you are that wealthy, or
you wouldn't have to be so defensive about it.
>>
>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW - american culture ? Get real.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, get real. Those brit movies do so well internationally.
>>>>Must be why Hollywood makes more money outside the US than inside.
>>>>You eurolosers can't get enough lousy hollywood movies.
>>>
>>>And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
>>>movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
>>
>> Whatever. The facts speak for themselves. Obviosly more brits
>>like American movies than brit movies.
>
>How do you come up with this crap ?
Do a search on the web for Motion Picture Statistics. Maybe you'll
learn something, if you aren't to rigidly locked in to your stupid
opinion. Now run out and see an american movie. I know you can't
resist.
>
>>Too bad for you mama's boy.
>>Suck it up and go watch some good hollywood fare. You know you can't
>>resist. Don't be so bitter just because you have no entertainment
>>industry, or any other industry. Tough luck, mama's boy.
>
>Riight....the British film industry is doing very well thank you. We do
>however, choose to make intelligent films dealing with real issues.
>Typically - this doesn't appeal to american audiences unless there is
>lots of violence and silicon enhanced bimbos. As you are aware, the
>attention span of the average american is 12 minutes - this means that
>your movies are all spasmodic action footage with no real content. Sure
>- people go see crap yank movies, but we just don't take them seriously
>like you guys do.
British film industry? Thats a good one. What's that? A couple
mama's boys like yourself with a 10 year old videocamera? Hey, if you
don't like american movies, quit going to so many of them. American
movie companies make billions of the european market every year. I
guess you don't have any of your own fare to watch. Sorry mama's boy.
Thomas Steegmann
On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:23:25 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32f984c5...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 07:41:25 GMT, ron.schwarz[at]nethawk.com ((Delete
>>spam-buster ([at]) to reply)) wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:42:40 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>>>
>>>Let's not go dragging The Prince of Darkness into the fray.
>>
>> In a way, it worked out for GB. Since they didn't have any way to
>>keep things cool, they had to develop better beer, that would taste
>>good at room temp. Here in the US, with the ability to keep food and
>>drinks cold (you brits ought to buy some american refridgerators, they
>>are neat, no more having to kill you food when you want to eat), our
>>beer became sub standard.
>
>Why should we buy american refridgerators ? What possible benefit could
>they have over European appliances ?
For starters, they work.
>
>--
>Epicene Wildeblood
Peter H. Proctor
In article <32F9A3...@interport.net> Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net> writes:
>From: Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
>Subject: Re: Powderkeg USA
>Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 04:26:14 -0500
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>> Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
>Well let us know when you actually visit America so we can stop wasting
>letters trying to convince you that your little world is fine and dandy,
>but just a little world after all. I have never met an American who
>would remotely think that a Big Mac, though delicious, is a culinary
>high spot. Your bigoted little assumption is just that.
What's this, a Brit, taking shots at American food <G>. Anglophilic as
I am, British food ain't exactly high cuisine. Take kidney pie; We used
to feed our dog kidneys. I figured the Brits with their inventive talent
had figured out some way to keep them from tasting like piss. So, my first
time there I tried some. Nope, they still need to work on it <G>..
Dr. P
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32F9A3...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
<ami...@interport.net> writes
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>> Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
>
>Well let us know when you actually visit America so we can stop wasting
>letters trying to convince you that your little world is fine and dandy,
>but just a little world after all. I have never met an American who
>would remotely think that a Big Mac, though delicious, is a culinary
>high spot. Your bigoted little assumption is just that.
Hardly.
I'll see you next month then.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32fcd391...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>Why should we buy american refridgerators ? What possible benefit could
>>they have over European appliances ?
>
> For starters, they work.
Hey, fat tom - you are one dumb son of a bitch, and what's more - you
are getting very tedious.
Nice argument though - "they work" - presumably you are trying to say
that European refridgerators don't function correctly ? If so, you are
very wrong indeed. Think about it - we had fridges before you did.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32fbd1af...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>As for pretty tough - well, let's just say that brains can outwit brawn
>>any day. Even though - it's nice to be able to protect myself as a last
>>resort. So - tough, who knows ? Compared to who ? However - every time I
>>have had to resort to violence, it has always been spectacularly
>>effective. The key tommy, is to use dirty tricks - first.
>
> Now I know you are european. Can't fight fair, eh? It's about
>what I expected from a europussy.
Can't fight fair ? Wrong. But why should one fight fair when one can
fight dirty ? It's much easier and more effective.
But then you americans would know all about that, wouldn't you - with
your "fair" napalming of women and children, your "fair" use of agent
orange, etc, etc, etc....
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Especially
>>>>>when compared with you inbred, malnourished, skinny, weak europeans.
>>>>>Second, just because a brit company was smart enough to buy BK doesn't
>>>>>mean that BK is brit. If your brit food is so good (mmmm love that
>>>>>mutton) why aren't there any brit originated chains here?
>>>>
>>>>Mutton ? I haven't eaten mutton in my life - come to think of it, I
>>>>don't know anyone that has. We prefer lamb. (That's a BABY sheep by the
>>>>way) And as for brit food - how can a yank even presume to talk about
>>>>cuisine ? You know nothing about it tommy. The american ideal of haute
>>>>cuisine is a double quarterpounder with cheese. So please - just fuck of
>>>>back to kindergarten until you learn something.
>>>
>>> Fuck of back to kindergarten? Whatever. You are the ignorant one
>>>here. It's well know the world around how bad brit food is, like it
>>>or not, mamas boy.
>>
>>Oh really ? Just like it's well known around the world that all yanks
>>are fat, ignorant pigs. Ever hear of stereotypes ?
>>
>>It's also well known around the world (to those that know of course -
>>which obviously doesn't include you) that a high proportion of the
>>worlds greatest and most innovative chefs are resident in the UK. and I
>>know for a fact that Gordon Ramsey didn't cook mutton for me last week.
>>So shut your mouth until you learn about the subject.
>
> So what have the brits contributed to world cuisine? Mutton?
>Diseased cow? warm beer? Crumpets?
Well, where shall we start ? (and by the way - why are you fixated with
mutton ? Is it a spin off from your sheep shagging days ?)
Contributions to world cuisine include: English mustard, the best
sausages in the world, specialty roasted meats, various types of
seafood, bacon with meat on it, fine cheeses, many kinds of preserves,
fish and chips (yes - fish and chips is considered a culinary classic),
alcoholic ciders, the best quality beef in the world, the best quality
lamb in the world, real beer, the sandwich, beef wellington, sponge
puddings, black pudding, haggis, spring greens, curly kale, the kipper,
Arbroath Smokies, the Yorkshire pudding, etc, etc, etc.....
>
>>
>>Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
>
> Hardly.
>
Sorry - Taco Bell, then.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In fact, I
>>>>>can't think of much of anything made in GB that sells here. Oh yeah,
>>>>>4 or 5 jaguars a year are sold here.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, they are owned by ford
>>>>>anyways. Why do the brits drink their beer warm? Because their
>>>>>refridgerators were designed by Lucas, the greatest brit mind ever.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you tink Ford bought Jaguar ? Becuase you fat fucks just love the
>>>>snob value of British goods. That's why you buy Burberry clothes,
>>>>British audio components, expensive Brit motor cars, in fact - most of
>>>>you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>>>
>>> We are such drooling anglophiles. I couldn't find something made
>>>in GB if I tried. You don't build anything useful. Ford bought jaguar
>>>because it cost them next to nothing. They have regretted the
>>>purchase since they did it. Jaguar, and all other brit car companies
>>>are outdated, poorly engineered and badly managed. Even the French
>>>(ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) make better cars than you do. Nobody buys
>>>anything made in GB because it's all useless crap. Sorry mamas boy.
>>
>>You just can't afford of the high dollar imported British luxury goods.
>>Don't be jealous fat boy - just keep flipping the burgers and saving the
>>money. Who knows - I might send you a Church's mail order catalogue for
>>Christmas. After all , you must get sore feet standing by that grill all
>>day.
>
> Yeah, whatever. Just becasue you are one of the millions of
>useless brits laying about doing nothing doesn't mean that you have to
>disparage people who work for a living.
I run my own company.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looks like you yanks like to suck on those good ole British burgers.
>>>>>
>>>>> We feel sorry for you. Your economy is in free fall. It's the
>>>>>least we could do.
>>>>
>>>>And the last time you looked at any relevant economic indicators must
>>>>have been - ooohhh - about 1990 ?
>>>
>>> So you've moved up from 19th on the GDP list since 1990? Won't be
>>>long, Ireland will pass you. That's pretty funny. What will you do
>>>mama's boy? Maybe you could have some tea and crumpets, and reminice
>>>about GB's glory days.
>>
>>Maybe i'll just get on with my life. I have one, you see. It involves
>>making lots more money than you are ever likely to see, whilst at the
>>same time enjoying myself by indulging in whatever pursuits I choose.
>>Unlike you guys, we have a growing economy. My company is expanding
>>rapidly, business is booming. How are you doing, tommy ?
>
>
> The US economy isn't only growing, it's leaving everyone else
>behind at an accelerating rate. The only nation that will keep with
>us in the next 100 years is China. I doubt you are that wealthy, or
>you wouldn't have to be so defensive about it.
>
Whatever - keep fiddling while Rome burns why don't you. The usa is
going to hell in a handbasket, and the whole lot of you are too dumb to
acknowledge it.
I don't go to many of them.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32F9A2...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
>> you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>
That's true. But you guys are also so stupid that the two aren't
mutually exclusive.
>
>> And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
>> movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
>
>Honey-
>
>Please try to distinguish between your opinions and hard facts. If you
>dislike American movies that's fine. Since they are blockbusters
>worldwide you at least have to admit that your view is a minority one.
Nope. They may well be blockbusters - but they are still trash. Again,
the two are not mutually exclusive.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Thomas Steegmann
>> Now I know you are european. Can't fight fair, eh? It's about
>>what I expected from a europussy.
>
>Can't fight fair ? Wrong. But why should one fight fair when one can
>fight dirty ? It's much easier and more effective.
Typical europussy.
>
>But then you americans would know all about that, wouldn't you - with
>your "fair" napalming of women and children, your "fair" use of agent
>orange, etc, etc, etc....
Boy, you sure like the double standard, don't you mama's boy?
>>
>> So what have the brits contributed to world cuisine? Mutton?
>>Diseased cow? warm beer? Crumpets?
>
>Well, where shall we start ? (and by the way - why are you fixated with
>mutton ? Is it a spin off from your sheep shagging days ?)
>
>Contributions to world cuisine include: English mustard, the best
>sausages in the world, specialty roasted meats, various types of
>seafood, bacon with meat on it, fine cheeses, many kinds of preserves,
>fish and chips (yes - fish and chips is considered a culinary classic),
Oh, that's great. Deep fried fish and frech fries is a culinary
classic? How can you make fun of hamburgers? You are a pinhead.
>alcoholic ciders, the best quality beef in the world, the best quality
>lamb in the world, real beer, the sandwich, beef wellington, sponge
>puddings, black pudding, haggis, spring greens, curly kale, the kipper,
>Arbroath Smokies, the Yorkshire pudding, etc, etc, etc.....
Reading your list of brit culinary accomplishments makes me want to
puke. I don't suppose you know about cholersterol or anything yet, do
you? Only an idiot would proclaim the quality of brit beef when
people are dying from eating it. Wow, you're stupid.
>>
>>>
>>>Or just admit that a Big Mac is the culinary high spot of your life.
>>
>> Hardly.
>>
>
>Sorry - Taco Bell, then.
You are just jealous because Americans don't have to spend 1/2 of
their income to eat. You should be jealous, your UB-40 money doesn't
go as far as it used to mamas boy.
>>
>> Yeah, whatever. Just becasue you are one of the millions of
>>useless brits laying about doing nothing doesn't mean that you have to
>>disparage people who work for a living.
>
>I run my own company.
Is that right? What on god's green earth do you do? I'm sure it's
very important, or at least self important like most of you stuffy
stupid brits.
>>>> So you've moved up from 19th on the GDP list since 1990? Won't be
>>>>long, Ireland will pass you. That's pretty funny. What will you do
>>>>mama's boy? Maybe you could have some tea and crumpets, and reminice
>>>>about GB's glory days.
>>>
>>>Maybe i'll just get on with my life. I have one, you see. It involves
>>>making lots more money than you are ever likely to see, whilst at the
>>>same time enjoying myself by indulging in whatever pursuits I choose.
>>>Unlike you guys, we have a growing economy. My company is expanding
>>>rapidly, business is booming. How are you doing, tommy ?
>>
>>
>> The US economy isn't only growing, it's leaving everyone else
>>behind at an accelerating rate. The only nation that will keep with
>>us in the next 100 years is China. I doubt you are that wealthy, or
>>you wouldn't have to be so defensive about it.
>>
>
>Whatever - keep fiddling while Rome burns why don't you. The usa is
>going to hell in a handbasket, and the whole lot of you are too dumb to
>acknowledge it.
How do you figure the US is going to hell in a handbasket? Just
because that is what you want to happen, it doesn't mean its going ot
happen. Why don't you provide some statistics to back up your absurb
claim? Just because your lame nation slid 18 places down the economic
ladder in 70 years doesn't mean it will happen to us. In fact, who do
you suppose is going to pass us?
>>>
>>>How do you come up with this crap ?
>>
>> Do a search on the web for Motion Picture Statistics. Maybe you'll
>>learn something, if you aren't to rigidly locked in to your stupid
>>opinion. Now run out and see an american movie. I know you can't
>>resist.
>
Where is your answer mama's boy? Why do so many brits go to see
american movies? I mean, if they are so bad, why would all you
layabouts spend your welfare money on them?
>>
>> British film industry? Thats a good one. What's that? A couple
>>mama's boys like yourself with a 10 year old videocamera? Hey, if you
>>don't like american movies, quit going to so many of them. American
>>movie companies make billions of the european market every year. I
>>guess you don't have any of your own fare to watch. Sorry mama's boy.
>
>I don't go to many of them.
And I'm sure you see all of them
Thomas Steegmann
Wow, more backpedaling from the world's number one mama's boy.
Whats the matter moron? Can't find any statistics to abck up your
absurd claim that more people go to brit films in europe than american
films?
>
>--
>Epicene Wildeblood
What else should we expect from such a mama's boy?
Thomas Steegmann
On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:38:02 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32fcd391...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>Why should we buy american refridgerators ? What possible benefit could
>>>they have over European appliances ?
>>
>> For starters, they work.
>
>Hey, fat tom - you are one dumb son of a bitch, and what's more - you
>are getting very tedious.
>
>Nice argument though - "they work" - presumably you are trying to say
>that European refridgerators don't function correctly ? If so, you are
>very wrong indeed. Think about it - we had fridges before you did.
Oh, here we go again. Not only did the inbred europussies have
refrigerators first, but they work. yeah, right. Next you'll be
telling us that you invented the internet, and GM is an english
company, and the prodigy are the greatest band ever, and that brit
cars are good, the list goes on and on. Get off it mama's boy. You
suck, and your brit craps sucks too. Nobody wants it, nobody buys it
unless it is subsidised by your lamer government. Gotta keep those
layabouts busy.
Stan Collins
I wouldn't have used such language but ya gotta admit that he has a
powerful point. If British filmas are so much better, how come the
government has to protect them from open, fair competition (same thing
for autos, agri. commodities, aeroplanes, auto parts, etc. etc. etc.).
Sorry brits,
Stan Collins
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <3303256d...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:34:40 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <32F9A2...@interport.net>, Alan Miles
>><ami...@interport.net> writes
>>>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> most of
>>>> you guys are drooling anglophiles.
>>>
>>>Wow. A few days ago we were Irish Repulican soldiers
>>
>>That's true. But you guys are also so stupid that the two aren't
>>mutually exclusive.
>>
>>>
>>>> And you guys just can't film enoug movies over here. Remember - your
>>>> movies are just trash. Like the rest of your "culture".
>>>
>>>Honey-
>>>
>>>Please try to distinguish between your opinions and hard facts. If you
>>>dislike American movies that's fine. Since they are blockbusters
>>>worldwide you at least have to admit that your view is a minority one.
>>
>>Nope. They may well be blockbusters - but they are still trash. Again,
>>the two are not mutually exclusive.
>>
>
> Wow, more backpedaling from the world's number one mama's boy.
>Whats the matter moron? Can't find any statistics to abck up your
>absurd claim that more people go to brit films in europe than american
>films?
I never claimed that. I simply pointed out to you that you make shit
movies. Which is completely true. I don't see any backpedalling there
tommy.
On the same point - McDonalds have probably sold more hamburgers than
any other food outlet - but that doesn't make them the best restaurant -
does it ?
>
>>
>>--
>>Epicene Wildeblood
>
> What else should we expect from such a mama's boy?
>
>
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Thomas Steegmann
On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:52:07 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
What you are saying is just your opinion. My point was that
obviously many of YOUR countrymen, in fact MOST of YOUR OWN countrymen
don't agree with you. That doesn't make you wrong, but realize that
you are certainly in the minority opinion.
>
>On the same point - McDonalds have probably sold more hamburgers than
>any other food outlet - but that doesn't make them the best restaurant -
>does it ?
Qualify best: It is the single largest chain in the world. Many
people like it. I'm not a big fan of it, but will eat it if I am in a
hurry. You europeans just can't get it through your thick heads that
some people like different things than you. Not all of us want to eat
diseased cattle, or deep fried fish and french fries. Sorry, we just
aren't the conformists you are. Mcdonalds is certainly a very
sucessful chain. Authur Treacher's Fish and Chips, on the other hand,
is not. Also, for some reason, Mad Cow Burger Hut hasn't quite caught
on either. Even your fellow europeans don't want your beef.
randy
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r...@inetworld.net
On 15 Feb 1997 12:44:07 GMT, mart...@oc.chalmers.se (Martin
Kjellstrand) wrote:
>In article <32f2a584...@news.inetworld.net>, r...@inetworld.net wrote:
>
>> >> Yeah...but throwing rock at them when they're tied up to a pier
>> >> doesn't count as a "real" war tactic.
>
>> >Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>> >'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
>
>> Hmm; I'd suspect that's one U.S. Navy officer who's going to get
>> passed over for promotion next time it comes around. Shouldn't be any
>> way an Aegis gets blindsided.
>
>Our AJ-37's ("Viggen", or "Thunderbolt") fly pretty low over water. Lower
>than you can imagine. Pretty hard to detect that way, and I'm sure it
>comes as a nice surprise if you, like that Aegis cruiser commander did,
>suddenly discover that you're looking _down_ at two unidentified strike
>aircraft that are some two hundred meters from you...
You don't understand the U.S. Navy, Martin. There's no way a Swede
pilot in a Swede plane should be able to blindside an Aegis. The
electronics in one of those things is built to take you out even if
you're flying 5 feet off the deck. Someone screwed up, and you don't
get two chances in the Navy.
=Bob
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <330a8d15...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>I never claimed that. I simply pointed out to you that you make shit
>>movies. Which is completely true. I don't see any backpedalling there
>>tommy.
>
> What you are saying is just your opinion. My point was that
>obviously many of YOUR countrymen, in fact MOST of YOUR OWN countrymen
>don't agree with you. That doesn't make you wrong, but realize that
>you are certainly in the minority opinion.
As always - however I would prefer to be in the minority group than the
brain dead, conformist majority. Us minorities have much more fun.
>
>>
>>On the same point - McDonalds have probably sold more hamburgers than
>>any other food outlet - but that doesn't make them the best restaurant -
>>does it ?
>
> Qualify best: It is the single largest chain in the world. Many
>people like it. I'm not a big fan of it, but will eat it if I am in a
>hurry. You europeans just can't get it through your thick heads that
>some people like different things than you.
We believe that everyone wants different things. That's why there are so
few fast food chains in Europe. We prefer small, independant
restaurants, regional specialities, and new ideas from indvidual chefs.
As opposed to bland, conformist fast food menus. It's a concept we call
"freedom".
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <33077718...@news.inetworld.net>, r...@inetworld.net
writes
>On 15 Feb 1997 12:44:07 GMT, mart...@oc.chalmers.se (Martin
>Kjellstrand) wrote:
>
>>In article <32f2a584...@news.inetworld.net>, r...@inetworld.net wrote:
>>
>>> >> Yeah...but throwing rock at them when they're tied up to a pier
>>> >> doesn't count as a "real" war tactic.
>>
>>> >Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>>> >'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
>>
>>> Hmm; I'd suspect that's one U.S. Navy officer who's going to get
>>> passed over for promotion next time it comes around. Shouldn't be any
>>> way an Aegis gets blindsided.
>>
>>Our AJ-37's ("Viggen", or "Thunderbolt") fly pretty low over water. Lower
>>than you can imagine. Pretty hard to detect that way, and I'm sure it
>>comes as a nice surprise if you, like that Aegis cruiser commander did,
>>suddenly discover that you're looking _down_ at two unidentified strike
>>aircraft that are some two hundred meters from you...
>
>You don't understand the U.S. Navy, Martin. There's no way a Swede
>pilot in a Swede plane should be able to blindside an Aegis.
Ah yes, "should" - that old favourite. Should and could are two far, far
different things.
> The
>electronics in one of those things is built to take you out even if
>you're flying 5 feet off the deck. Someone screwed up, and you don't
>get two chances in the Navy.
>
>=Bob
>
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Thomas Steegmann
>In article <32f2a584...@news.inetworld.net>, r...@inetworld.net wrote:
>
>> >> Yeah...but throwing rock at them when they're tied up to a pier
>> >> doesn't count as a "real" war tactic.
>
>> >Does dropping one hell of a lot of 500lbs iron bombs on said cruiser count?
>> >'Cause thats what they would have done, if it'd been for real...
>
>> Hmm; I'd suspect that's one U.S. Navy officer who's going to get
>> passed over for promotion next time it comes around. Shouldn't be any
>> way an Aegis gets blindsided.
>
>Our AJ-37's ("Viggen", or "Thunderbolt") fly pretty low over water. Lower
>than you can imagine. Pretty hard to detect that way, and I'm sure it
>comes as a nice surprise if you, like that Aegis cruiser commander did,
>suddenly discover that you're looking _down_ at two unidentified strike
>aircraft that are some two hundred meters from you...
You mean the whole swede air force made it through? Wow,
impressive. What were you going to do, drop salt bread on the ships?
Maybe call them names and whine about how you invented ships, and
water, and computers, and money, and the whole world, right?
>
>--
>/Martin
>
>Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.
> -Terry Pratchett
>
>"In test scores and the like the US ranks in the top 10 nations all the time. US public schools may not be as good as Sweden's or Germany's, but it's a far from as bad as any african or Latin American country."
> - Oscar Schlaf
Thomas Steegmann
>In article <330a8d15...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>I never claimed that. I simply pointed out to you that you make shit
>>>movies. Which is completely true. I don't see any backpedalling there
>>>tommy.
>>
>> What you are saying is just your opinion. My point was that
>>obviously many of YOUR countrymen, in fact MOST of YOUR OWN countrymen
>>don't agree with you. That doesn't make you wrong, but realize that
>>you are certainly in the minority opinion.
>
>As always - however I would prefer to be in the minority group than the
>brain dead, conformist majority. Us minorities have much more fun.
>
So you are admitting that you are wrong? Very good, now let's move
on.
>>
>>>
>>>On the same point - McDonalds have probably sold more hamburgers than
>>>any other food outlet - but that doesn't make them the best restaurant -
>>>does it ?
>>
>> Qualify best: It is the single largest chain in the world. Many
>>people like it. I'm not a big fan of it, but will eat it if I am in a
>>hurry. You europeans just can't get it through your thick heads that
>>some people like different things than you.
>
>We believe that everyone wants different things. That's why there are so
>few fast food chains in Europe. We prefer small, independant
>restaurants, regional specialities, and new ideas from indvidual chefs.
>As opposed to bland, conformist fast food menus. It's a concept we call
>"freedom".
There are plenty of 'small independent' restaurants here. You just
don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Just in this area,
with a population of ~750,000,000 there are almost 1000 restaurants
NOT including chains like McDonalds, etc. That also doesn't include
taverns and such that serve smaller menus. Once again, you are just
jealous that we have both options here. Face it, you are just jealous
of all things american. Maybe you should just admit it and get on
with your life. The best and smartest of your nations left there to
come here. Why do you suppose that is?
>
>--
>Epicene Wildeblood
Thomas Steegmann
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:14:26 GMT, t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann)
wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:55:07 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
What I meant, of course, was ~750,000.
Jamie...
t...@uFaa.com (Thomas Steegmann) wrote:
>Face it, you are just jealous of all things american.
>Maybe you should just admit it and get on with your life.
Fuck me Tom, you're dead boring as it is without resorting to such cuntish
rhetoric. Stop it now or piss off.
Jamie...
The trouble with America is that there are far too many
wide open spaces surrounded by teeth - Charles Luckman
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <3318d381...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
<t...@uFaa.com> writes
>On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:55:07 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <330a8d15...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
>><t...@uFaa.com> writes
>>>>I never claimed that. I simply pointed out to you that you make shit
>>>>movies. Which is completely true. I don't see any backpedalling there
>>>>tommy.
>>>
>>> What you are saying is just your opinion. My point was that
>>>obviously many of YOUR countrymen, in fact MOST of YOUR OWN countrymen
>>>don't agree with you. That doesn't make you wrong, but realize that
>>>you are certainly in the minority opinion.
>>
>>As always - however I would prefer to be in the minority group than the
>>brain dead, conformist majority. Us minorities have much more fun.
>>
> So you are admitting that you are wrong? Very good, now let's move
>on.
>
Ummm - no. I am (as usual) correct. Your films are mainly trash - a
mindless way to spend a couple of hours - just like fucking your mother
actually. Being in a minority does not make me wrong. To give you an
example, who would be most likely to be correct in matters of quantum
cosmology - the minority (i.e. physicists) or the majority (i.e. the
great unwashed like you) ???? See the point ?
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On the same point - McDonalds have probably sold more hamburgers than
>>>>any other food outlet - but that doesn't make them the best restaurant -
>>>>does it ?
>>>
>>> Qualify best: It is the single largest chain in the world. Many
>>>people like it. I'm not a big fan of it, but will eat it if I am in a
>>>hurry. You europeans just can't get it through your thick heads that
>>>some people like different things than you.
>>
>>We believe that everyone wants different things. That's why there are so
>>few fast food chains in Europe. We prefer small, independant
>>restaurants, regional specialities, and new ideas from indvidual chefs.
>>As opposed to bland, conformist fast food menus. It's a concept we call
>>"freedom".
>
> There are plenty of 'small independent' restaurants here. You just
>don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
>Just in this area,
>with a population of ~750,000,000 there are almost 1000 restaurants
>NOT including chains like McDonalds, etc.
Right - so in an area with a population nearly three times that of
america, there are only one thousand restaurants - so each restaurant
must serve a catchment of three quarters of a million people ?? Well _ I
know the wait for tables at some of my favourite restaurants can be a
couple of weeks - but jesus tommy - you must have to wait about five
years to get a table !
Numbskull.
> That also doesn't include
>taverns and such that serve smaller menus. Once again, you are just
>jealous that we have both options here.
What - and we don't ?
> Face it, you are just jealous
>of all things american. Maybe you should just admit it and get on
>with your life. The best and smartest of your nations left there to
>come here. Why do you suppose that is?
What nation left Europe to go to america ? Name ONE ?
>
>>
>>--
>>Epicene Wildeblood
>
>
>
>Tom Steegmann
>steegman @ tomcindy rotterdam ny us
>www.netheaven.com/~steegman
>
>Don't bother sending me junk mail. That goes for spammers,
>MLM's, gun nutz, and all of you in the Blak Helikopter Krowd
>If you need to get in touch with me in a hurry, contact Blak
>Helikopter # UN1096459823E1209695883861094, and ask for unit
>489TS1092469. I'll be manning the mind kontrol machine.
>
>Go Bills!
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Colin McElroy
Epicene Wildeblood <wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
a mindless way to spend a couple of hours - just like fucking your
mother actually. Being in a minority does not make me wrong.
Thank you for sharing. But please keep these sensitive issues between
you and your therapist.
Thank You, Colin
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <5egjoh$u...@mackrel.fishnet.net>, Colin McElroy
<s...@fishnet.net> writes
How's about I keep my pineapple collection between your sensitive arse
cheeks ?
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Alan Miles
Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>
> In article <3318d381...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
> <t...@uFaa.com> writes
> >come here. Why do you suppose that is?
>
> What nation left Europe to go to america ? Name ONE ?
I think he meant that many of the most motivated and intelligent
Europeans emigrated over the last 150 years to the USA.
The European Jewish nation, or the portion that could, emigrated as
quickly as possible in the 30's. Most to America. In the 19th Century
a huge chunk of Ireland left for Boston and New York. In the early 20th
C several million Poles moved to Chicago.
Reply?
Andrew L. Kuharsky
Stan Collins wrote:
> I wouldn't have used such language but ya gotta admit that he has a
> powerful point. If British filmas are so much better, how come the
> government has to protect them from open, fair competition (same thing
> for autos, agri. commodities, aeroplanes, auto parts, etc. etc. etc.).
>
> Sorry brits,
>
> Stan Collins
Cause british movies are not for a below average person with no brains
but for people who can think. Since theare are only 10% of "thinking"
people in each country no wonder that stupidity blossoms.
Also I doubt that in England there are millions of mexicans who work for
$1/hour or even "natives" who work for $5/hour as it is very common in
US. So the cost is higher and it is harder to compete. But that does not
mean that the quality of american(chinese?) goods is superior. On the
contrary.
Andrew
Lee E. Brown
Andrew L. Kuharsky <kuha...@math.utahe.edu> wrote in article
<330D4D...@math.utahe.edu>...
> Stan Collins wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't have used such language but ya gotta admit that he has a
> > powerful point. If British filmas are so much better, how come the
> > government has to protect them from open, fair competition (same
thing
> > for autos, agri. commodities, aeroplanes, auto parts, etc. etc.
etc.).
> >
> > Sorry brits,
> >
> > Stan Collins
>
> Cause british movies are not for a below average person with no
brains
> but for people who can think. Since theare are only 10% of "thinking"
> people in each country no wonder that stupidity blossoms.
By your own argument, 90% of UK film production must therefore be crap,
too.
An outstanding command of logic!
> Also I doubt that in England there are millions of mexicans who work
for
> $1/hour or even "natives" who work for $5/hour as it is very common
in
> US. So the cost is higher and it is harder to compete.
An interesting assertion!
Please show me *anyone* working on a US movie production earning either
$1 or $5 per hour. (Other than college students working on their
student film projects, who work for zip.)
I'm quite familiar with the film production industry in the US. It's
quite unionized, and quite expensive. However, we do it without
substantial government subsidy.
You were saying?
> But that does not
> mean that the quality of american(chinese?) goods is superior. On the
> contrary.
Having had the severe misfortune of owning and working on UK made
automobiles and motorcycles, I see >NOTHING< that supports your
assertion.
If your UK-made autos, airplanes, appliances, etc., are so superior,
why do they command such a miserably small segment of the global
market?
Colin McElroy
Epicene Wildeblood <wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Epicene Wildeblood
Hmm... No thanks. You really should see a doctor about these wild
fantasies though. You could go blind.
Colin - just trying to help
Richard Sieggreen
In article <01bc203a$cb758580$1dd0...@mandrake.jagunet.com>,
"Lee E. Brown" <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>If your UK-made autos, airplanes, appliances, etc., are so superior,
>why do they command such a miserably small segment of the global
>market?
>
Anglophobia! Why, I remember seeing a Rolls Royce (not mine) with handcrafted
pieces so finely put together that it was comparable in quality to a Ford Taurus.
__________________________________________________
Richard Sieggreen AKA rcg...@loanstar.tamu.edu
"To argue with those who have renounced the use
and authority of reason is as futile as to
administer medicine to the dead." -- Thomas Paine
__________________________________________________
Paul Louis
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:26:42 -0500, Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>
wrote:
>Epicene Wildeblood wrote:
>>
>> In article <3318d381...@news.netheaven.com>, Thomas Steegmann
>> <t...@uFaa.com> writes
>> >The best and smartest of your nations left there to
>> >come here. Why do you suppose that is?
>>
>> What nation left Europe to go to america ? Name ONE ?
>
>I think he meant that many of the most motivated and intelligent
>Europeans emigrated over the last 150 years to the USA.
>
>The European Jewish nation, or the portion that could, emigrated as
>quickly as possible in the 30's.
While the Jewish community was important it hardly monopolised the
most intelligent Europeans
>Most to America. In the 19th Century
>a huge chunk of Ireland left for Boston and New York.
Mostly farmers and labourers.
>In the early 20th
>C several million Poles moved to Chicago.
See above.
>Reply?
Where's the proof of the best and brightest leaving for the US? If it
were really so, why have the greatest writers, painters and
philosophers always been from this side of the pond.
________________________________________________________
Paul Louis - pa...@i8acorns.demon.co.uk
"Every time Europe looks across the Atlantic to see the
American Eagle, it observes only the rear end of an
ostrich."
--H. G. Wells
"America is the only nation in history which miraculously
has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration
without the usual interval of civilization."
--Georges Clemenceau
Steve Hix
In article 320...@news.telepost.no, tom...@online.no (Exit Wound) writes:
:>
:Did A European strike a cord or what ???.
:I really do like watching americans getting self rigthious, you guys
:really make me chukle. Americans as cosmopolitans, well maybe on CNN,
:but in real life I'm not to shure. I have personally met real life
:americans, and they scare me silly.
Easily frightened?
I haven't found them any more frightening than Germans, Brits, Aussies,
and so on.
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <331d7265...@news.alt.net>, R A I D E R
<rai...@super.zippo.coz> writes
>On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:55:07 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>We believe that everyone wants different things. That's why there are so
>>few fast food chains in Europe. We prefer small, independant
>>restaurants, regional specialities, and new ideas from indvidual chefs.
>>As opposed to bland, conformist fast food menus. It's a concept we call
>>"freedom".
>
>your gullets, eh?
Nah - I don't eat em.
>
>In 1997, McDonalds plans to open 2400-2800 new outlets worldwide, with 70%
>abroad. International sales brings in 55% of McDonald's revenue (4th
>quarter 1996 overseas sales were $4.1 Billion), and their largest overseas
>markets are Japan, France, and Germany. Part of their secret to their
>success is the offering of regional variations in addition to the core menu.
>Another attraction is that overseas, they team with businesses and build
>infrastructure that brings in millions of dollars to local suppliers.
Translation: McDonalds is buying space in petrol stations and putting in
mini burger stands. As for the regional specialities, putting sauerkraut
on your burger hardly makes it a German regional speciality. and I
hardly call a couple of those brown plastic trash cans "infrastructure"
- just more corporate mental masturbation.
>
>McD's is losing ground in the burger wars in the U.S., but gaining it
>overseas. I think you are speaking for less "we" than you'd like to think.
>
>>Epicene Wildeblood
>
>
>< R A I D E R >
>
>Veni, Vidi, Velcro.
--
Epicene Wildeblood
XENO
rai...@super.zippo.coz (R A I D E R) wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:55:07 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood
><wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>We believe that everyone wants different things. That's why there are so
>>few fast food chains in Europe. We prefer small, independant
>>restaurants, regional specialities, and new ideas from indvidual chefs.
>>As opposed to bland, conformist fast food menus. It's a concept we call
>>"freedom".
>Yeah. Freedom to gorge yourselves on all the burgers you can stuff down
>your gullets, eh?
We do it because we can.
The little man who thinks big thoughts,
*XENO* (a.k.a. Red Paladin)
EMAIL ADDRESS: mlsh...@cc.memphis.edu
WEBPAGE URL: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~mlsheltn
Those who cannot understand their opponents'
arguments do not completely understand their own.
Croatalus
Bill wrote:
>
> Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net> wrote:
>
> >The USA is rich, influential, and powerful. It is unprecedented. Do
> >you disagree?
>
> We are sitting pretty good. I wonder, what is going to happen in 10
> years, 20, 30, as this deficit continues to grow? Something like 600
> million in interest a day. Seems that has to catch up with us someday.
>
> Then there's the lack of moral fiber in the common American. Me Me My
> My is the rule of thumb.
>
> Seems it could crumble in another century if we don't figure out some
> answers. I don't want lengthy political discussion, just thinking out
> loud.
>
> I like America, I think we are something to be proud of, but it's not
> all peachy.
>
> Bill
Hear, hear, Bill. Something has to be done to control these deficits.
My mind boggles at the demagoguery of the present administration
regarding balanced budgets. Can these people really be so jaded and
irresponsible as to think that they can continue to spend like there's
no tomorrow? It seems that the politicos will have to dragged kicking
and screaming into the realities of the 21st Century. They just don't
want to face it.
America needs a lot of work, but it's still the best place to be IMHO.
Max
ainsley
What do you think of this? I think it is wrong to put it into law. A
balanced budget is a must, but it should arise from disciplining
yourself to spend less. What happens it America goes into war, or needs
a program for whatever reason? The US would be dead.
--
ainsley
http://homepage.seas.upenn.edu/~ainsle17/tai.htm
Thought for the day:
Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything
which is not prohibited is compulsory.
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <331fac38...@news.alt.net>, R A I D E R
<rai...@super.zippo.coz> writes
>
>>As for the regional specialities, putting sauerkraut
>>on your burger hardly makes it a German regional speciality. and I
>>hardly call a couple of those brown plastic trash cans "infrastructure"
>
Umm.... we already have potato farms, meat processing plants and
distribution networks.
>
>>- just more corporate mental masturbation.
>
>Nope. You can't sell 95 billion burgers to unwilling consumers.
That's true wader. However, you CAN sell 95 billion burgers to people
who have been brainwashed by overzealous and untruthful advertising
campaigns. Did your kids ever ask you to take em to McD's Wader ? Had
they seen the TV ads promising free toys and a great fun time. Do you
think cynical corporations should target young children with their
advertising ?
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:29:47 +0000, Epicene Wildeblood lost self-control and said:
>>Nope. You can't sell 95 billion burgers to unwilling consumers.
>That's true wader. However, you CAN sell 95 billion burgers to people
>who have been brainwashed by overzealous and untruthful advertising
>campaigns. Did your kids ever ask you to take em to McD's Wader ? Had
>they seen the TV ads promising free toys and a great fun time. Do you
>think cynical corporations should target young children with their
>advertising ?
>Epicene Wildeblood
Sorry, epinice, for inturrupting. But do we really have to discuss
McDonalds ? they don't even have fucking knives and forks. the
food is pre-chewed. the waitresses are ugly.
lets stay serious. if twix likes to eat at mc, let him. (i can picture
him now: fat belly under and on the table, diet coke, joggin shoes,
grease on his chin, elbows on the table, munch munch munch.
everybody his own, i guess).
nice weekend, igor.
Ray Van Tassle
In article <mxbqkQAb...@orbit.demon.co.uk>, Epicene Wildeblood
<wilde...@orbit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <331fac38...@news.alt.net>, R A I D E R
> <rai...@super.zippo.coz> writes
> >
> >>As for the regional specialities, putting sauerkraut
> >>on your burger hardly makes it a German regional speciality. and I
> >>hardly call a couple of those brown plastic trash cans "infrastructure"
> >
> >What of the potato farms, processing plants, and distribution networks?
>
> Umm.... we already have potato farms, meat processing plants and
> distribution networks.
> >
> >>- just more corporate mental masturbation.
> >
> >Nope. You can't sell 95 billion burgers to unwilling consumers.
>
> That's true wader. However, you CAN sell 95 billion burgers to people
> who have been brainwashed by overzealous and untruthful advertising
Yes, we all know how sucessful Ford was in selling Edsels. Really,
something like 80% of new products fail. If your contention was correct,
this wouldn't be the case. Hence, your contention is wrong.
> campaigns. Did your kids ever ask you to take em to McD's Wader ? Had
Sure. Ever think that maybe kids tastes are different that adult tastes?
> they seen the TV ads promising free toys and a great fun time. Do you
> think cynical corporations should target young children with their
> advertising ?
"Cynical"???? That word doesn't belong in your sentence.
>
> --
> Epicene Wildeblood