Marx's Flaws
Bob Eddinger
I believe that Marx didn't take into consideration human nature
enough. Communism works only if every one wants it. We are all
basicly self centered so it won't work. Many Liberals have a
distorted view of human nature.
As an example check out the first religious settlements they were
socialist by nature, and they didn't last. They didn't have the
same power struggles as the USSR; Man's selfish nature showing
it self.
Jan Tietze
Bob Eddinger <10367...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>I believe that Marx didn't take into consideration human nature
>enough. Communism works only if every one wants it. We are all
Even if I agreed that human nature did include selfishness and
egocentrism, aggression etc., this would not at all provide legitimate
reason to be selfish, egocentric and aggressive; humans are distinct
from animals in that they are able to actually control their nature
and overcome it by the power of thought and reason. Most societies
today have created laws to limit the potential damage "human nature"
could cause.
>basicly self centered so it won't work. Many Liberals have a
>distorted view of human nature.
You have not considered the problem thoroughly enough (in my eyes,
that is). What you call "human nature" is just human behavior in the
societies we currently live in; you have ignored the possibility that
what you call "human nature" may just be a product of the societies we
live in. In other words: you may be misinterpreting cause and effect.
Jan
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reason to be selfish, egocentric and aggressive; humans are
distinct
from animals in that they are able to actually control their
nature
and overcome it by the power of thought and reason. Most
societies
today have created laws to limit the potential damage "human
nature"
could cause.
Oh you mean like the Soviet Union for example!!!!
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What you call "human nature" is just human behavior in the
societies we currently live in; you have ignored the possibility
that what you call "human nature" may just be a product of the
societies we live in.
-----------------------my answer.--------
Capitalizm has been around for a thousand years. The Soviet Union
was around for only about 90 years. The corruption in the USSR is
well known. Capitalizm asumes and allows for corruption. The
truth speaks for its self.
David Erskine
Marxism is about state run producdion of goods and services. Marx suggested
that production is really just that, and should not be bound about by
subjective attitudes.
Modern economies allow the possibility of automated production, so that
production and distribution might be not just impersonal, but also largely
automatic. This is modernism. Modernism need not be Marxist, but Marxism is a
form of modernism.
Even in advanced societies, most people feel a emotional attachment to the
production process itself. They like being in business for its own sake. Such
people are antimodernist, or premodern. That is their human nature. A few
people are modernist. That is their human nature.
Once automated production takes off, advanced societies will presumably
arrange for automated, state run production systems, and thus will be mainly
Marxist. They might not see this label as a big deal.
In the future, advanced societies will presumably be enclaves in an
irrational, antimodernist world.
David Erskine
even in advanced societyies. The situatin is even worse inless sophiticated
countries,