Taliban vs. evolution
Rolf
Prophetic? http://tinyurl.com/3c7apu
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DinvTZ85OtI)
...
Are weapons and 'war on terror' with the ultimate goal of establishing
'Democracy' adequate means of fighting the Taliban? Or are fighting Taliban
with such methods as effective as fighting H1N1 virus with mothballs?
The 'teach the controversy' is not just a Discovery Institute program; it is
part of the agenda of the christian Taliban forces. Is the creationism we
find here and at other places like Uncommon Descent, Telic Thoughts,
Evolutionfairytale and many others just ripples on the surface of what's
cooking in the christian Taliban think thanks and universities? To me, what
we see is more like fifth-columnism.
....
From: http://tinyurl.com/y8m2zxv
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Henry_College)
The school has attracted reports from every major network and cable news
organization from its inception, and been the subject of articles in Time,
The New Yorker, The Economist, the New York Times, and others. A television
documentary about the college, God's Next Army, aired in the spring of 2006
on Britain's Channel 4 and on the Discovery Times Channel in the United
States. Initial media interest stemmed from the fact that the college
deliberately sought students with homeschooled backgrounds. It also
attracted attention because a number of the school's students gained White
House internships and opportunities within the Bush administration: in
spring 2004, seven of the 100 student White House interns were from PHC,
which had only 240 students at the time. This is the same number of interns
Georgetown University had during the same period. Hanna Rosin, a writer who
has covered religion and politics for several prominent journals, wrote a
book entitled, "God's Harvard: A Christian College on a Mission to Save
America"
....
From: http://tinyurl.com/876vk
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/12/AR200505120
1740.html)
Morton, whose removal as executive officer was first reported in USA Today,
said she has not been asked to brief the task force.
Surveys of present and former cadets have shown that some students said they
felt a heavy and sometimes offensive emphasis on evangelical Christianity,
with praise for cadets who pronounce their "born-again" status and insults
aimed at Jews, Roman Catholics and non-evangelical cadets.
One staff chaplain reportedly told newly arrived freshmen last summer that
anyone not born again "will burn in the fires of hell."
...
From: http://tinyurl.com/6m56rw
(http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html)
"We sort of don't talk to the press about the house," said Rep. Bart Stupak
(D-Mich.), who lives there. The 8,000-square-foot detached townhouse has 12
bedrooms, nine bathrooms, five living rooms (including one with a big-screen
TV), four dining rooms, three offices, a kitchen--and a small chapel. "The C
Street property is a church," said Chip Grange, an attorney for the
Fellowship. "It is zoned as a church. There are prayer meetings, fellowship
meetings, evangelical meetings," he said. "Our mission field is Capitol
Hill."
But at least one member of Congress who lives there, Rep. Michael F. Doyle
(D-Pa.), said he didn't know the property was registered as a church. Doyle
would not comment further. "I don't discuss my personal living arrangements
with the media," he said. Rep. Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.), another townhouse
occupant, told Associated Press in 2000 that the house was the most popular
place on the Hill to watch NCAA basketball, eat takeout Chinese food and
discuss public policy. The story did not mention the Fellowship. "That's my
own life and my own relationships," Wamp told The Times
...
From: http://tinyurl.com/ygeq42d
(http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/10/192635/30/Front_Page/Bart_Stupa
k_Family_Minister_Wrapped_in_C_Street_Like_a_Bug_in_a_Rug)
At the 2008 National Prayer Breakfast Stupak stated he was co-chair of the
House Prayer Breakfast, an institution which, according to Family/Fellowship
records at the Billy Graham Center in Wheaton, Illinois, was established by
the Family/Fellowship in 1942. Stupak has twice spoken at the National
Prayer Breakfast.
Long-time leader of the Family Doug Coe has advocated the leadership lessons
of Hitler, Lenin and Mao, and spoken admiringly of the ability of Bolshevik
revolutionary cells to take over Russia. The Family does not own the C
Street House; a sister ministry, the international behemoth Youth With a
Mission, holds title to the property. Youth With a Mission's founder and
head Loren Cunningham advocates that Christians should infiltrate key
sectors of society such as government, business, education, and media.
T Pagano
wrote:
<snip>
The Waffler should peddle his politics in an appropriate news group.
Regards,
T Pagano
Nashton
Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family
and your country.
Burkhard
> Rolf wrote:
>
>
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
Would that be the soldiers who are treated with contempt, and are
insulted and harassed by their fellow soldiers, because they go to the
wrong Christian church, as Rolf's article says?
alextangent
My respect for what all the troops are doing in Afghanistan is
immense.
As Rolf points out, the questions asked about the methods of fighting
terrorists have parallels in the war of ideas against fundamentalism
of all persuasions. The analogy may break down in terms of the
disproportionate loss of life (although I would point out that there
have been deaths before now in wars of ideas), but it is apt. I am
*not on your side, and I will fight verbally, and physically should
the need arise, to ensure that you and the Taliban don't get the
theocracies your common insanities desire.
Bob T.
> Rolf wrote:
>
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>
> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family and your country.
You are an embarassment to your fellow theists.
- Bob T.
Dan Listermann
"Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> Rolf wrote:
>>
>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>>
>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>
> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>
>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
"atheist." I am very proud of that.
.
Big Dave
My dog tags had "atheist" as religion. The thing that stands out in
my
memory that most relates to that is that there was a tiny tavern just
outside the base, and I had made
very good friends with some of the locals. There was a mother, father,
and son who I hit it off with quite well.
We laughed at the same jokes, shared the same views, and really had
the good feeling
you get when you are around people you respect and respect you.
We never talked specifically about religion.
One day, the mother saw my tags and grabbed a look at them. The look
on her face was such a shock to me.
She looked at me like, well, it hurt actually.
From that point, no one there would talk to me the same way - I was
treated as a stranger. Eventually I stopped visiting.
That was just over 20 years ago and I still feel sad when I think
about it.
Mitchell Coffey
In a part of the world where the only word likely to elicit a more
negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
blank.
Mitchell Coffey
Desertphile
> Rolf wrote:
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
Did you see anything in error that she or he wrote? Anything at
all? If so, by all means please take the time to point out that
error so that it can be corrected.
> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
Because their behavior is identical.
> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
So, you believe that killing and dying is how people earn respect?
Damn you're one sick fuck.
> Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family
> and your country.
"Lefty?"
Content restored:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:22:20 +0100, "Rolf" <rolf.a...@tele2.no> wrote:
>
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Dan Listermann
"Big Dave" <david....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:81221636-48e9-4ce1...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
So far, he hasn't said anything of that nature has happened to him. I don't
expect that it will never happen. To some, identifying yourself as an
atheist, is the same as telling them you think that they are stupid and it
is seen as an insult.
.
Dan Listermann
"Mitchell Coffey" <m.co...@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:80d619c6-c896-4aa9...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
I am not unconcerned about that. It was his very couragious choice, but I
can't say that I would not have prefered that he left it blank.
.
Kleuskes & Moos
Give him my regards. I hope he returns safely...
Mitchell Coffey
> "Mitchell Coffey" <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote in message
I wish he and you the best.
Mitchell Coffey
hersheyh
> Rolf wrote:
>
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
Funny thing. Aren't the Taliban also dying and going to die in the
hundreds in Afghanistan? You need to point out the *differences* [and
I actually think there *are* differences, but am just pointing out a
tiny flaw in your so-called 'logic' -- aka, name-calling] between the
Taliban and the mainly, but not exclusively (there are Turkish and
Afghan government troops, as well as secularists and Jews in the
American and other forces, and, of course, there are also some
convinced nihilists among the Taliban), Christian forces arrayed
against them, not the similarities between the two forces.
> Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family
> and your country.
Patriotism is the last refuge of...
Dan Listermann
.
Nashton
You're just another cheap evo-whore. There is *no* squirming out of the
fact that another supreme evo-ACTIVIST equated the Taliban with Christians.
Shame on *you* for not decrying it and instead, attempting to spin away
the repercussions of the nonsense he posted.
This is beyond the pale.
Nashton
I want to personally wish your son a safe and uneventful tour in that
wasteland, where our soldiers are trying to help the inhabitants live a
more peaceful life.
God's speed.
Nashton
You stupid lefties, not only are you a disgrace to your own country and
not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people DYING for
you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and raise your
kids in peace, you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch of idiots
given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban are acting
*not* out of religious fervor, but for power.
Nashton
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:00:47 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
>
>> Rolf wrote:
>
>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> Did you see anything in error that she or he wrote? Anything at
> all? If so, by all means please take the time to point out that
> error so that it can be corrected.
>
>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>
> Because their behavior is identical.
You filthy evo-fuckwit, when was the last time a Pentacostal church in
Arizona took responibility for an IED on US soil?
Why am I not surprised you would have something as stupid, insensitive
and ignorant (all in the same breath) to say about Christians?
Burkhard
A distinction with not much of a difference
VoiceOfReason
> Rolf wrote:
>
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
Because Muslim fundamentalists are pretty much interchangeable with
Christian fundamentalists. Same hate-filled ignorance.
> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
They're fighting the effects of religious fundamentalism gone mad.
> Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family
> and your country.
Oh, the irony.
Bob Casanova
in talk.origins, posted by T Pagano <not....@address.net>:
....says the Usenet Intercessor. Get over yourself, Tony.
You're a lying coward; everyone knows it. You refuse to
answer the simple question regarding the historical accuracy
of the Noachian Flood because you know very well that an
answer which actually reflected your beliefs would show that
you consider the Bible to be a literally-correct science and
history text (which the Church does not), which would put
the lie to your claim that you don't consider it to be such.
You're pathetic, and everyone sees it with every post you
make.
>Regards,
>T Pagano
Piss off, Tony. You have no regard for anyone but yourself;
certainly not for the truth or the position of the Church of
which you falsely claim to be a member. Maybe you should
join Ray and worship Gene Scott; at least that would improve
your honesty.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
VoiceOfReason
Just like Hovind, Falwell, Robertson, the Bakkers, Swaggart... etc,
etc, etc
Boikat
Yes, the "power" to force everyone to become a Muslim, and to stop non-
muslim ideas from causeing muslims to turn away from quaint, peaceful
muslim values. For instance, normally, if you're a muslim, and your
beard is too short, the Religion Police just beat the shit out of
you. Nothing wrong with that, right?
BTW, fool, why do they call their cause a "Jihad", as in "Holy War",
if it's not religiously inspired? Just to dupe their "homicide-
bombers" into thinking they get 72 virgins if they die as a martyr for
their jihad?
Damn, you are fuctard stupid!
Boikat
All-Seeing-I
Yeah. The phrase "Christian-taliban: seems to be the current trendy
catch phrase for the next attack on religion; specifically
christinity, these days.
Of course by repeating these kinds of phrases over and over they will
become as if they were truth to those that do not know better. Buy a
lie elevated to the status of truth is still a lie, isn't it?
How did Jesus address this kind of crap?
John 15 of course:
18""If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."
19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it
is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the
world. That is why the world hates you.""
I do not get as ruffled as you do when I read such BS, Nash.
All of these types of things show more clearly that we really are in
the "end times" now. It is biblical for them to hate Jesus and
everything he stood for.
It is biblical for them to hate you if you are a Christian.
It is biblical they will hate everything and anyone that speaks out
against these kind of things, too.
That bible is almost eerie with it's predictions at times.
All-Seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
You really are too dumb to understand exactly what is going on kitty
Everything is a holy war.
Dan Listermann
"All-Seeing-I" <allse...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:486acd82-3373-4581...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
Wow! You got something right after all this!
.
Dan Listermann
"Nashton" <na...@na.ca> wrote in message news:hg8oa9$kcu$2...@aioe.org...
.
Dan Listermann
"Nashton" <na...@na.ca> wrote in message news:hg8o6a$kcu$1...@aioe.org...
Why don't you just say "I am an asshole" and not have to do all that typing?
.
All-Seeing-I
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah. I agree. He would be better off listing "none". Unless of course
he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
christian.
I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
because some atheist lacked tollerance... Atheists get more protection
and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
That sounds a lot like "bitting the hand that feeds you".. eh?
Sure it does.
chris thompson
As they say, there are those who wrap themselves in the Constitution
so they can burn the flag, and then there are those who wrap
themselves in the flag so they can burn the Constitution.
Chris
Burkhard
Not according to the Right Reverend Dr Stephen Venner, Bishop of the
Anglican church, who just praised them for their "conviction to their
faith" - takes one to know one?
Big Dave
> "Big Dave" <david.haap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
That is true.
Most of the reactions I had gotten from my various shipmates was a
shrug. No big deal to normal people. I had a thumper make me a
project, but that ended up with both of us laughing most of the time.
(I had it in the tag as I didn't want any magic incantations and such
said by a bunch of folks as they stand around my dead body.)
Some people, though, like the incredibly nasty, inhuman, all seeing
evil eye here, are just incapable of human empathy. They are so full
of that shit they believe in, they are incapable of being the human
their ancient texts are telling them to be. They just the most
dispicable kind of human a human can be. Hate, jealousy, and murderous
loathing for anything that makes him feel uncomfortable in self
examination. A fucking rotten bastard through and through. His
comments show he's *never put his life on the line for anything, and
has never so much as put himself at risk - even for that crap he
believes. He's a fake, fraud, and pussy.
I spit on him.
hersheyh
> alextangent wrote:
> > On Dec 15, 1:00 pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >> Rolf wrote:
>
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
> >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> >> Filthy anything-goes lefty crack pot. You are a disgrace to your family
> >> and your country.
>
> > My respect for what all the troops are doing in Afghanistan is
> > immense.
>
> > As Rolf points out, the questions asked about the methods of fighting
> > terrorists have parallels in the war of ideas against fundamentalism
> > of all persuasions. The analogy may break down in terms of the
> > disproportionate loss of life (although I would point out that there
> > have been deaths before now in wars of ideas), but it is apt. I am
> > *not on your side, and I will fight verbally, and physically should
> > the need arise, to ensure that you and the Taliban don't get the
> > theocracies your common insanities desire.
>
> You're just another cheap evo-whore. There is *no* squirming out of the
> fact that another supreme evo-ACTIVIST equated the Taliban with Christians.
I am sure he was talking about the Taliban, a distorted militant
fundamentalist intolerant version of Islam that is more primitive
tribalism than religion. And I am sure he was not equating *all*
Christians with the Taliban, just those Christians who are militant,
fundamentalist, and intolerant. That subset of 'Christians' can
easily be identified by their name-calling bigotry, harsh ideological
stances divorced from any real reality or humanity (they just do not
'get' tolerance), their contempt and irrational hatred for anyone who
doesn't believe exactly like they do, and their willingness to apply
medieval (or earlier) forms of 'justice' without compassion. Do you
know any such Christians? Have a mirror handy?
David Hare-Scott
> You stupid lefties, not only are you a disgrace to your own country
> and not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people
> DYING for you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and
> raise your kids in peace, you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch
> of idiots given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban
> are acting *not* out of religious fervor, but for power.
The proponents of each movement will go to any lengths to deny the
similarities between fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. Sure they have
different views of the detail of God and religion but the way they behave,
especially to outsiders, is in many ways identical. They are brothers under
the skin and both hate the very thought of it because they only want to see
only the skin deep differences of ritual. Playing up differences and
playing down similarities is essential to the cause of both. They are
symbiotic as each needs an enemy.
The self-righteous confidence and ability to see out of only one eye of the
Christian far right is no different to the imams who exhort their faithful
to go and smite the infidel. They both want to ride on the coat tails of
patriotism (the last refuge of a scoundrel) to be 'righteous', to be popular
in some circles, and each to whip up emotional fervour of their own crowd
against the other.
Are you identifying with such Christian fundamentalists? Is that you? It
starts to look that way.
In your efforts to wrap yourself in the flag you carefully do not see that
the people can have the greatest respect for the men and women of the armed
forces can also question the motivation of those on both sides who want to
send them out to fight holy wars. Instead you must engage in slur by saying
any such criticism is directed at the soldiers or the freedoms that they
fight for rather than their political masters.
Since when are religious fervour and lust for power mutually exclusive? You
don't read much history do you. I find this rather rich coming from
somebody who accuses others of being ill informed. The religious right of
the USA and the Taliban are not the last in a long line of proof that the
two motives are self-reinforcing in the right mindset.
Your rigidity of thought, blind insistence on your own correctness in the
face of any evidence to the contrary and your willingness to resort to
invective to denigrate the opposition when you run out of ideas is no
different to the chanting mobs of Kabul.
But for the name of God you are them and they are you.
David
Dan Listermann
> and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
Perhaps you have no Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. in your world who
don't appreciate the government they support with their taxes babbling on
about a Christian holiday?
.
chris thompson
I know everyone's gotta have a hobby, but is yours really poking
sewers to see if they back up again?
Chris
alextangent
I am perfectly at liberty to connect Christian fundamentalism with the
Taliban, and have made no effort to spin. It is you that appears to be
impersonating a top.
>
> This is beyond the pale.
Do you know where that phrase means? It has an interesting history,
with religious discrimination at its root.
"Catherine the Great created a 'Pale of Settlement' in Russia in 1791.
This was a western border region of the country in which Jews were
allowed to live. The motivation behind this was to restrict trade
between Jews and native Russians. Some Jews were allowed to live, as a
concession, beyond the pale." http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/64100.html
Ye Old One
It looks like the truth hurts you NashtOff.
--
Bob.
NashtOff - the moron who claimed "All drugs are derived from the ToE."
All-Seeing-I
> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
Sure. I have them where I live.
But I am specifically discussing atheists right now.
Do you always lack such focus?
There is medication for ADD.
Ye Old One
I'm further to the right than the Iron Lady herself.
>not only are you a disgrace to your own country and
>not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people DYING for
>you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and raise your
>kids in peace,
Oh?
>you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch of idiots
No, that would be people like you and Mudbrain - you know, the two who
are always making such stupid claims like your "All drugs are derived
from the ToE."
>given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban are acting
>*not* out of religious fervor, but for power.
Well, just like christians, both drives play their part.
Ye Old One
Illiterate moron!
Godspeed
n exclamation. dated. an expression of good wishes to a person
starting a journey.
bpuharic
>>
>
>You stupid lefties, not only are you a disgrace to your own country and
>not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people DYING for
>you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and raise your
>kids in peace, you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch of idiots
>given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban are acting
>*not* out of religious fervor, but for power.
so are creationists. no difference. the more you say about
creationists the more you prove they're like the taliban
you don't like it? tough shit
bpuharic
>Rolf wrote:
>
>
>Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
>How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
what's the difference? and he didn't compare CHRISTIANS to the
taliban, he compared CREATIONISTS who definitely ARE like the taliban.
you have me killfiled so you won't see this. and the reason you have
me KF'd is because months ago i pointed out this very fact:
creationists are like the taliban
>
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>You really are too dumb to understand exactly what is going on kitty
>
>Everything is a holy war.
>
nashton, a creationist, get pissed off when he's compared to a taliban
then ASI come in here, spewing EXACT taliban theology, like he's just
graduated from a madrassa.
all nasht has to do is read your posts. they are written like taliban
theology
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yeah. I agree. He would be better off listing "none". Unless of course
>he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
>possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
>
>Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
>christian.
of course, you creationists think the same about atheists.
>
>I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
>because some atheist lacked tollerance..
or it could be simpler than saying 'merry xmas and happy new year'.
.. Atheists get more protection
>and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
>then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
actually so do christians. christians killed each other so often that
the founding fathers put a stop to that shit.
we can thank the murderous impulse of christians for the fact there's
freedom of religion in this country....
of course, ASI would like to change that....
bpuharic
>Desertphile wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:00:47 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Rolf wrote:
>>
>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>> Did you see anything in error that she or he wrote? Anything at
>> all? If so, by all means please take the time to point out that
>> error so that it can be corrected.
>>
>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>>
>> Because their behavior is identical.
>
>You filthy evo-fuckwit, when was the last time a Pentacostal church in
>Arizona took responibility for an IED on US soil?
only because police here are relatively good. christians in america
hate gays, for example. just like the taliban does
although not all xtians are 'taliban' like...
just most of them
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it
>is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the
>world. That is why the world hates you.""
>
>I do not get as ruffled as you do when I read such BS, Nash.
>
>All of these types of things show more clearly that we really are in
>the "end times" now. It is biblical for them to hate Jesus and
>everything he stood for.
>
>It is biblical for them to hate you if you are a Christian.
>
>It is biblical they will hate everything and anyone that speaks out
>against these kind of things, too.
>
>That bible is almost eerie with it's predictions at times.
ASI doesnt know much of history. it's funny watching xtians tell us
how persecuted they are when their own history is so bloody
All-Seeing-I
This coming from the moron that uses the phrase "Taliban Christian"
more then all the posters combined on TO.
and you dishonestly CUT posts to be even more misleading
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>On Dec 15, 6:22�pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:20:13 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
>>
>>
>> ASI doesnt know much of history. it's funny watching xtians tell us
>> how persecuted they are when their own history is so bloody-
>
>This coming from the moron that uses the phrase "Taliban Christian"
>more then all the posters combined on TO.
well that would follow logically, wouldn't it? if you guys are the
taliban, then your history WOULD be bloody...
>
>and you dishonestly CUT posts to be even more misleading
fine. tell me that the inquistion didnt exist, m'kay?
>
John McKendry
Yes, his point is that you are specifically discussing atheists
when in fact it's Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Druids, Wiccans,
Zoroastrians, Taoists, Rastafarians, Pastafarians, Unitarians,
Universalists, Asatru, Humanists, animists, Mandaeans, shamans,
deists, pantheists, peyotists, agnostics, and assorted others who
are at least equally to blame from taking the celebration of the
turning of the year away from its rightful Christian custodians. If
you must find cause for resentment in the benediction "Happy Holidays",
why is that resentment so specifically targeted at one tiny group?
None of those people I named subscribes to your religion; they are
all, by your reckoning, aligned with the forces of Darkness. So why
do you think it's the atheists who took Christmas away from all you
right-thinking people?
John
All-Seeing-I
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:30:53 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
>
> >On Dec 15, 6:22�pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:20:13 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
>
> >> ASI doesnt know much of history. it's funny watching xtians tell us
> >> how persecuted they are when their own history is so bloody-
>
> >This coming from the moron that uses the phrase "Taliban Christian"
> >more then all the posters combined on TO.
>
> well that would follow logically, wouldn't it? if you guys are the
> taliban, then your history WOULD be bloody...
No it wouldn't follow logically.
Different centuries. Different countries. Different reasons. Different
methods. Different religion. Different motivations. Different people.
Different belief systems. Different causes.. the list is long
You are just a Christian-hater and a god-hater. You are no different
from those that you want to bash. You just conceal your absolute
diabolical hatred behind popular beliefs and popular catch phrases.
Your hatred seems to run so deep in fact, that you really should deal
with it before it consumes you like a fire.
Contrary to what you would like to believe, Christianity is not the
root origins to all of mankinds problems.
Still. You have relegated yourself to being nothing more then a junk
yard dog for atheisim. You look bad. While they sit back and laugh.
[]
Dana Tweedy
That's not being fair to the vast majority of Christians. It's really only
a small minority of those who identify themselves as Christian who are
somewhat similar to the Taliban.
As for Nikky's question above, he seems to have forgotten this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
DJT
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>On Dec 15, 7:26�pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:30:53 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
>>
>> <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 15, 6:22�pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:20:13 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
>>
>> >> ASI doesnt know much of history. it's funny watching xtians tell us
>> >> how persecuted they are when their own history is so bloody-
>>
>> >This coming from the moron that uses the phrase "Taliban Christian"
>> >more then all the posters combined on TO.
>>
>> well that would follow logically, wouldn't it? if you guys are the
>> taliban, then your history WOULD be bloody...
>
>No it wouldn't follow logically.
>
>Different centuries. Different countries. Different reasons. Different
>methods. Different religion. Different motivations. Different people.
>Different belief systems. Different causes.. the list is long
same ideology. same goals. same view of science. same view of human
progress. same views on govt...theocracy.
the list ls longer
>
>You are just a Christian-hater and a god-hater
if that makes you feel better, by all means, comfort yourself with
this mental masturbation
.. You are no different
>from those that you want to bash. You just conceal your absolute
>diabolical hatred behind popular beliefs and popular catch phrases.
>
>Your hatred seems to run so deep in fact, that you really should deal
>with it before it consumes you like a fire.
have you noticed that i've pointed out xtianity is compatible with
science
YOU say it's not. seems YOU hate religion. not me.
>
>Contrary to what you would like to believe, Christianity is not the
>root origins to all of mankinds problems.
creationist fundamentalism, whether christian, or islamist, is evil
>
>Still. You have relegated yourself to being nothing more then a junk
>yard dog for atheisim. You look bad. While they sit back and laugh.
and you're the village idiot for all that's wrong with religion.
>
>[]
Boikat
> On Dec 15, 2:03�pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> > > > "Big Dave" <david.haap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:81221636-48e9-4ce1...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> On Dec 15, 7:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
> > > >>> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >>>news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > >>>>> Rolf wrote:
> > > >>>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
> > > >>>>> monger?
> > > >>>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> > > >>>>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
> > > >>>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> > > >>>> evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
> > > >>> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> > > >>> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
> > > >> My dog tags had "atheist" as religion. The thing that stands out in
> > > >> my
> > > >> memory that most relates to that is that there was a tiny tavern just
> > > >> outside the base, and I had made
> > > >> very good friends with some of the locals. There was a mother, father,
> > > >> and son who I hit it off with quite well.
> > > >> We laughed at the same jokes, shared the same views, and really had
> > > >> the good feeling
> > > >> you get when you are around people you respect and respect you.
> > > >> We never talked specifically about religion.
> > > >> One day, the mother saw my tags and grabbed a look at them. The look
> > > >> on her face was such a shock to me.
> > > >> She looked at me like, well, it hurt actually.
> > > >> From that point, no one there would talk to me the same way - I was
> > > >> treated as a stranger. Eventually I stopped visiting.
> > > >> That was just over 20 years ago and I still feel sad when I think
> > > >> about it.
>
> > > > So far, he hasn't said anything of that nature has happened to him. �I don't
> > > > expect that it will never happen. �To some, identifying yourself as an
> > > > atheist, is the same as telling them you think that they are stupid and it
> > > > is seen as an insult.
>
> > > > .
>
> > > not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people DYING for
> > > you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and raise your
> > > kids in peace, you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch of idiots
> > > given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban are acting
> > > *not* out of religious fervor, but for power
>
> > muslim ideas from causeing muslims to turn away from quaint, peaceful
> > muslim values. �For instance, normally, if you're a muslim, and your
> > beard is too short, the Religion Police just beat the shit out of
> > you. �Nothing wrong with that, right?
>
> > BTW, fool, why do they call their cause a "Jihad", as in "Holy War",
> > if it's not religiously inspired? �Just to dupe their "homicide-
> > bombers" into thinking they get 72 virgins if they die as a martyr for
> > their jihad?
>
> > Damn, you are fuctard stupid!
>
> > Boikat- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
Is that so, Mr.d Cambrian Mammal = Trilobite? What were you saying
about being dumb?
>
> Everything is a holy war
Then how is my statement wrong, asshole?
Boikat
Boikat
> On Dec 15, 8:53�am, Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > > >> Rolf wrote:
>
> > > >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> > > > Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>
> > > >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>
> > > > It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>
> > > >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> > > >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > > > Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> > > > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> > > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> > > "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
> > negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
> > the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
>
> > I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
> > blank.
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
> possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
>
> Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
> christian.
>
> I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
> and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>
>
> Sure it does.-
Yet, here you are, on this news group, whining about the ToE because
it offends your religious views. You even wish death upon those who do
not agree with your religious views. You are no better than the
Taliban. Grow up, scum bag.
Now, do your little monnkeey-dance.
Boikat
Desertphile
> You stupid lefties, not only are you a disgrace to your own country and
You forgot to answer this query:
How can you be a Christian when you reject Jesus' mandate to be
liberal?
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Desertphile
<papa...@cybertown.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2:32�pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > Dan Listermann wrote:
> > > "Big Dave" <david.haap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:81221636-48e9-4ce1...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > >> On Dec 15, 7:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
> > >>> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >>>news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >>>> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > >>>>> Rolf wrote:
> > >>>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
> > >>>> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
> > >>>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
> > >>>>> monger?
> > >>>> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
> > >>>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> > >>>>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
> > >>>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> > >>>> evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
> > >>> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> > >>> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
> >
> > >>> .
> > >> My dog tags had "atheist" as religion. The thing that stands out in
> > >> my
> > >> memory that most relates to that is that there was a tiny tavern just
> > >> outside the base, and I had made
> > >> very good friends with some of the locals. There was a mother, father,
> > >> and son who I hit it off with quite well.
> > >> We laughed at the same jokes, shared the same views, and really had
> > >> the good feeling
> > >> you get when you are around people you respect and respect you.
> > >> We never talked specifically about religion.
> > >> One day, the mother saw my tags and grabbed a look at them. The look
> > >> on her face was such a shock to me.
> > >> She looked at me like, well, it hurt actually.
> > >> From that point, no one there would talk to me the same way - I was
> > >> treated as a stranger. Eventually I stopped visiting.
> > >> That was just over 20 years ago and I still feel sad when I think
> > >> about it.
> >
> > > So far, he hasn't said anything of that nature has happened to him. �I don't
> > > expect that it will never happen. �To some, identifying yourself as an
> > > atheist, is the same as telling them you think that they are stupid and it
> > > is seen as an insult.
> >
> > > .
> >
> > You stupid lefties, not only are you a disgrace to your own country and
> > not only are you ingrates for the fact that there are people DYING for
> > you so that you can stuff your faces, drink your booze and raise your
> > kids in peace, you are the dumbest most ill-informed bunch of idiots
> > given that you are oblivious to the fact that the Taliban are acting
> > *not* out of religious fervor, but for power.
> Just like Hovind, Falwell, Robertson, the Bakkers, Swaggart... etc,
> etc, etc
Also Bush2, Hitler, Osama ben Laden....
RAM
> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >> Rolf wrote:
>
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> > Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>
> >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>
> > It's shocking! �It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>
> >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. �His dog tags read
> "atheist." �I am very proud of that.
>
> .
Please ask him to keep a detailed record of his experiences as a
result of this. Most of the time it will not be relevant but there
may be repercussions as a result of this.
RAM
> Dan Listermann wrote:
> > "Big Dave" <david.haap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:81221636-48e9-4ce1...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> >>> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >>>>> Rolf wrote:
> >>>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
> >>>> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
> >>>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
> >>>>> monger?
> >>>> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
> >>>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> >>>>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
> >>>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> >>>> evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
> >>> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> >>> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
> >>> .
And the reactionary religious right (activist, political activist,
creationist activist) in this country was not?
Desertphile
> Dan Listermann wrote:
> > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
> > news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >>> Rolf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
> >> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
> >>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
> >> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
> >>
> >>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> >>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
> >> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> >> evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
> >
> > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> > "atheist." I am very proud of that.
> I want to personally wish your son a safe and uneventful tour in that
> wasteland, where our soldiers are trying to help the inhabitants live a
> more peaceful life.
Killing people is helping them live better?
Desertphile
> Desertphile wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:00:47 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Rolf wrote:
> >
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
> >
> > Did you see anything in error that she or he wrote? Anything at
> > all? If so, by all means please take the time to point out that
> > error so that it can be corrected.
> >
> >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
> >
> > Because their behavior is identical.
> You filthy evo-fuckwit, when was the last time a Pentacostal church in
> Arizona took responibility for an IED on US soil?
You mean Oklahoma, and it was 1995.
> Why am I not surprised you would have something as stupid, insensitive
> and ignorant (all in the same breath) to say about Christians?
Members of your cult would cheerfully, without hesitation, butcher
infants at their mothers' breasts if you all thought you could
once again get away with it.
RAM
> On Dec 15, 7:00�am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>
> > Rolf wrote:
>
> > Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> > Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > and your country.
>
> catch phrase for the next attack on religion; specifically
> christinity, these days.
>
> Of course by repeating these kinds of phrases over and over they will
> become as if they were truth to those that do not know better. Buy a
> lie elevated to the status of truth is still a lie, isn't it?
>
> How did Jesus address this kind of crap?
>
> John 15 of course:
>
> 18""If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."
>
> 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it
> is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the
> world. That is why the world hates you.""
>
> I do not get as ruffled as you do when I read such BS, Nash.
>
> All of these types of things show more clearly that we really are in
> the "end times" now. It is biblical for them to hate Jesus and
> everything he stood for.
>
> It is biblical for them to hate you if you are a Christian.
>
> It is biblical they will hate everything and anyone that speaks out
> against these kind of things, too.
>
> That bible is almost eerie with it's predictions at times.
FYI
Frank Schaeffer is an outspoken critic of the politicized Christian
evangelical right. He sees the �End Times� movement as anti-Semitic.
He fears that a right-wing terrorist might assassinate the President
of the United States.
None of these talking points would be novel on the left, but Schaeffer
is hardly a bleeding heart liberal. His father, Dr. Francis Schaeffer,
is considered to be the godfather of the modern religious right
movement. Schaeffer himself took up the family mission and became a
prominent speaker and writer, promoting many of the sentiments that
have given rise to the politically active, extremely well organized
and zealous movement of today. He left the religious right in the
1980s, and was a Republican until 2000.
In an interview with Raw Story, Schaeffer -- who has a new book coming
out this month called Patience with God: Faith for People Who Don't
Like Religion (or Atheism) -- discussed his concerns about the
radicalization of the Christian right and the increasingly violent
rhetoric he foresees turning into actual violence.
"Since President Obama took office I've felt like the lonely -- maybe
crazy -- proverbial canary in the coal mine," Schaeffer said. "As a
former right wing leader, who many years ago came to my senses and
began to try to undo the harm the movement of religious extremism I
helped build has done, I've been telling the media that we're facing a
dangerous time in our history. A fringe element of the far right
Republican Party seems it believes it has a license to incite
threatening behavior in the name of God."
"The bestselling status of the Left Behind novels proves that, not
unlike Islamist terrorists who behead their enemies, many evangelical/
fundamentalist readers relish the prospect of God doing lots of messy
killing for them as they watch in comfort from on high," he added.
"They want revenge on all people not like them -- forever."
RAM
>
> >> Rolf wrote:
>
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> > all? If so, by all means please take the time to point out that
> > error so that it can be corrected.
>
>
>
> You filthy evo-fuckwit, when was the last time a Pentacostal church in
> Arizona took responibility for an IED on US soil?
>
> and ignorant (all in the same breath) to say about Christians?
FYI
Klaus Hellnick
Especially since it was Christians who HIJACKED the holiday in the first
place!
Mike Dworetsky
> On Dec 15, 8:59 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>> "Big Dave" <david.haap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:81221636-48e9-4ce1...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>>> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> Rolf wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>>>>> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is
>>>>> stunning.
>>
>>>>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
>>>>>> monger?
>>
>>>>> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>>
>>>>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK
>>>>>> and Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>>
>>>>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the
>>>>> science of evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>>
>>>> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
>>>> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>>
>>
>>> My dog tags had "atheist" as religion. The thing that stands out in
>>> my
>>> memory that most relates to that is that there was a tiny tavern
>>> just outside the base, and I had made
>>> very good friends with some of the locals. There was a mother,
>>> father, and son who I hit it off with quite well.
>>> We laughed at the same jokes, shared the same views, and really had
>>> the good feeling
>>> you get when you are around people you respect and respect you.
>>> We never talked specifically about religion.
>>> One day, the mother saw my tags and grabbed a look at them. The look
>>> on her face was such a shock to me.
>>> She looked at me like, well, it hurt actually.
>>> From that point, no one there would talk to me the same way - I was
>>> treated as a stranger. Eventually I stopped visiting.
>>> That was just over 20 years ago and I still feel sad when I think
>>> about it.
>>
>> So far, he hasn't said anything of that nature has happened to him.
>> I don't expect that it will never happen. To some, identifying
>> yourself as an atheist, is the same as telling them you think that
>> they are stupid and it is seen as an insult.
>>
>> .
>
> Most of the reactions I had gotten from my various shipmates was a
> shrug. No big deal to normal people. I had a thumper make me a
> project, but that ended up with both of us laughing most of the time.
> (I had it in the tag as I didn't want any magic incantations and such
> said by a bunch of folks as they stand around my dead body.)
> Some people, though, like the incredibly nasty, inhuman, all seeing
> evil eye here, are just incapable of human empathy. They are so full
> of that shit they believe in, they are incapable of being the human
> their ancient texts are telling them to be. They just the most
> dispicable kind of human a human can be. Hate, jealousy, and murderous
> loathing for anything that makes him feel uncomfortable in self
> examination. A fucking rotten bastard through and through. His
> comments show he's *never put his life on the line for anything, and
> has never so much as put himself at risk - even for that crap he
> believes. He's a fake, fraud, and pussy.
> I spit on him.
So I take it you don't like him or something?
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)
Mike Dworetsky
From the Romans. What have the Romans ever done for us?
Mike Dworetsky
> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
> news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>>> Rolf wrote:
>>>
>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>>>
>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
>>> monger?
>>
>> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>>
>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
>>> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>>
>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science
>> of evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
>
My best wishes and compliments to him and you. May he return safely with
the knowledge of a difficult job well done.
chris thompson
Let's put the Mithras back in Christmas!
Chris
bpuharic
<redd...@bresnan.net> wrote:
>bpuharic wrote:
>>
>> although not all xtians are 'taliban' like...
>>
>> just most of them
>
>That's not being fair to the vast majority of Christians. It's really only
>a small minority of those who identify themselves as Christian who are
>somewhat similar to the Taliban.
>
i'm just referring to the current wave of christian homophobia. while
they don't want gays killed here, US christians were behind the
recently inspired uganda vote to murder gays.
so, IMHO, the majority of xtians DO share some repulsive
characteristics of the taliban.
VoiceOfReason
Well, they made the roads...
All-Seeing-I
Because they are the loudest.
Everything from money to the nativity scene in a park is the object of
their constant whining as they run like children all the way to the
supreme court. If atheists do not believe in things such as the tooth
fairy then why should a picture of the tooth fairy be offensive to
them? It should be meaningless. Anything involving religion should
lack meaning and therefore have no ability to offend. How can you be
offended by something that is meaningless to you?
And BTW. It is not resentment. I make an observation.
> None of those people I named subscribes to your religion; they are
> all, by your reckoning, aligned with the forces of Darkness. So why
> do you think it's the atheists who took Christmas away from all you
> right-thinking people?
First. it is not *my* religion.
Second. Those others you mention want religious respect and for the
most part seem to give religious respect in return when try get it.
We use to be able to say the atheists has some tolerance in America.
They should learn some tolerance. Or should I say "re-learn it'.
Because the very religion they have no tollerence for is the same
religion that would stand up for their right to be free and believe
what they want.
Getting back to the point though. My concern if for the child that has
to go to a country and fight against a people that would be barbaric
just because of their hatred for atheists.
One can be proud to be atheist but smart enough to conceal that fact
under some circumstances. Being sent to War in a what is a
predominately radical Muslim controlled country would be one of those
circumstances IMHO. There would be no shame to conceal the truth in
this case.
Rolf
Doesn't matter, the responses says it all.
We have a well-known terrorist here; his name is Mullah Krekar, leader of
the terrorist organization Ansar-Al-Islam. He is deemed a threat to our
national security but since he is supposed to risk a death penalty should he
be returned to Iraq, he is allowed not just to live in peace and enjoy
Scandinavian hospitality and naivet�, he is even allowed to carry on his
evil work on the internet. Recently he expressed the opinion that he would
want to see a global caliphate erected under Osama bin Laden.
I don't mind religions as long as people keep it as their own personal
matter. It is quite another thing when they think they possess the one and
only eternal truth and believe they are entitled to impress their faith,
morals, prejudice and judgment on everyone else. With corresponding despotic
rule.
I try to avoid political issues on the web but I don't see my exception in
this case as so much political as a reaction against fundamentalism, pure
and undiluted, but with what I conceive as a sinister political goal.
And that has quite serious implications not only for evolutionary theory but
also for all science!
Desertphile
> Desertphile wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:34:12 -0400, Nashton <na...@na.ca> wrote:
> [..]
> >> I want to personally wish your son a safe and uneventful tour in that
> >> wasteland, where our soldiers are trying to help the inhabitants live a
> >> more peaceful life.
> > Killing people is helping them live better?
> War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength...
I wish that a just god exists and that it punishes people like
George Bush; as it is, Bush2 will never be punished for his evil.
Desertphile
> Klaus Hellnick wrote:
>> John McKendry wrote:
That's a damn good point. Many Christians also object to Christmas
as well as government engaging in and promoting religion.
> > Especially since it was Christians who HIJACKED the holiday in the
> > first place!
> From the Romans. What have the Romans ever done for us?
Besides the aquaduct?
Mitchell Coffey
> and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>
>
> Sure it does.
I consider it very tolerant when an atheist wishes me "Happy
Holidays." Atheists get protection and support from the First
Amendment, just like you. And a moment of thought would make you
realize that atheists get more protection in western Europe than here.
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
Roads, for one.
Mitchell Coffey
chris thompson
[...]
> And a moment of thought would make you
> realize that atheists get more protection in western Europe than here.
You do realize that, with your sole restriction, you guaranteed that
notion will stay at least 3 counties away from ASI's consciousness,
right?
Chris
Big Dave
I used to just not like him.
After his recent comments, I hate the bastard.
Even if a loki, he owns his words and therefore harbors them in his
head.
TheBicyclingGuitarist
> Rolf wrote:
>
> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> and your country.
No, he has a good point. It isn't any particular religion that is a
problem. It is the fundies of any society that cause much if not most
of the world's strife. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, even
Buddhist...It's not the religion that's the problem It's that fundie
mindset of ignorance, arrogance and intolerance that cause problems
for humanity and the planet.
IF the taliban Christians have their way and succeed in making the USA
a theocracy, then all those soldiers who have died for our freedoms
would have died in vain. It is the FUNDIE CHRISTIANS who have no
respect for them.
TheBicyclingGuitarist
> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Rolf wrote:
>
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
>
>
>
> >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. �His dog tags read
> "atheist." �I am very proud of that.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'd say bless you and yours but do not want to offend, I salute you
and yours though and thank you from the bottom of my heart. Best
wishes. It is a shame that your son may be picked on by some of his
fellow troops because he doesn't subscribe to their particular brand
of insanity.
TheBicyclingGuitarist
> alextangent wrote:
> > On Dec 15, 1:00 pm, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >> Rolf wrote:
>
> >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> >> and your country.
>
> > immense.
>
> > As Rolf points out, the questions asked about the methods of fighting
> > terrorists have parallels in the war of ideas against fundamentalism
> > of all persuasions. The analogy may break down in terms of the
> > disproportionate loss of life (although I would point out that there
> > have been deaths before now in wars of ideas), but it is apt. I am
> > *not on your side, and I will fight verbally, and physically should
> > the need arise, to ensure that you and the Taliban don't get the
> > theocracies your common insanities desire.
>
> You're just another cheap evo-whore. There is *no* squirming out of the
> fact that another supreme evo-ACTIVIST equated the Taliban with Christians.
> Shame on *you* for not decrying it and instead, attempting to spin away
> the repercussions of the nonsense he posted.
>
> This is beyond the pale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes equating the Taliban with MOST Christians is comparing apples to
oranges, BUT as someone else already said, equating the Taliban with
fundie Christians is apples to apples.
TheBicyclingGuitarist
> On Dec 15, 7:54�am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> Rolf wrote:
>
> > >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
>
>
>
> > >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. �His dog tags read
> > "atheist." �I am very proud of that.
>
>
> My dog tags had "atheist" as religion. The thing that stands out in
> my
> memory that most relates to that is that there was a tiny tavern just
> outside the base, and I had made
> very good friends with some of the locals. There was a mother, father,
> and son who I hit it off with quite well.
> We laughed at the same jokes, shared the same views, and really had
> the good feeling
> you get when you are around people you respect and respect you.
> We never talked specifically about religion.
> One day, the mother saw my tags and grabbed a look at them. The look
> on her face was such a shock to me.
> She looked at me like, well, it hurt actually.
> From that point, no one there would talk to me the same way - I was
> treated as a stranger. Eventually I stopped visiting.
> That was just over 20 years ago and I still feel sad when I think
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thankfully, the culture may be becoming more aware of and hopefully
more accepting of atheism in the future. I am greatly encouraged that
Obama included non-believers in one of his early speeches, and that
some transit buses and billboards worldwide are letting people know
it's okay to be an atheist.
Dan Listermann
"TheBicyclingGuitarist" <Ch...@TheBicyclingGuitarist.net> wrote in message
news:e68d82ad-ead0-4e1d...@k32g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
You don't understand the fundies, the deities are on their side. They are
therefore incapable of doing evil, right?
.
Dan Listermann
"TheBicyclingGuitarist" <Ch...@TheBicyclingGuitarist.net> wrote in message
As I said, he has yet to complain, but that is not his style.
May I say that I am also very proud to have raised four grown adults without
resorting to trying to control them with superstitious myths. They are all
just fine. I am a bit jealous that their childhood was not filled with crap
as my wife and mine were.
.
Rolf
> On Dec 15, 8:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>>>> Rolf wrote:
>>
>>>> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>>> Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>>
>>>> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
>>>> monger?
>>
>>> It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>>
>>>> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK
>>>> and Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>>
>>> Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science
>>> of evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>>
>> Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
>> "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
> negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
> the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
>
> I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
> blank.
>
Norway. Don't know if that's been changed since then; our population was
very homogenous back then - but we had atheists, me for one... - and Jews,
and probably a buddhist or two too..
> Mitchell Coffey
Rolf
I presume you count yourself lucky though; it seems to be extremely
difficult to undo/overcome conditioning impressed on immature brains. I had
to find out all by myself and the search has been an interesting journey.
>
> .
Dan Listermann
"Rolf" <rolf.a...@tele2.no> wrote in message
news:hgb5jv$qgg$1...@news.albasani.net...
first grade science book started in the Garden of
Eden back in 1959. This nun let it slip that humans were not made from a
magical material called "human flesh," but rather the same stuff as plants
and animals. This was quite a revelation to my young brainwashed mind.
.
Dan Listermann
"All-Seeing-I" <allse...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:bab668fa-6eda-4d28...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 15, 8:53 am, Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>> On Dec 15, 8:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> > >> Rolf wrote:
>>
>> > >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>> > > Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>>
>> > >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate
>> > >> monger?
>>
>> > > It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>>
>> > >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
>> > >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>>
>> > > Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science
>> > > of
>> > > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>>
>> > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
>> > "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>>
>> negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
>> the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
>>
>> I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
>> blank.
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
> possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
>
> Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
> christian.
>
> I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
> because some atheist lacked tollerance... Atheists get more protection
> and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>
.
Dan Listermann
Your sort would love to shove atheists back in the closet.
.
haiku jones
> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
That's not as funny as the claim that atheists "get more protection
and support" here than they would in Europe, nearly all of
whose countries have a much higher percentage of
atheists than the United States.
Haku Jones
Mitchell Coffey
wrote:
> On Dec 16, 9:49 am, MitchellCoffey<m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 15, 3:39 pm, All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 8:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> > > > > >> Rolf wrote:
>
> > > > > >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>
> > > > > > Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>
> > > > > >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>
> > > > > > It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>
> > > > > >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
> > > > > >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>
> > > > > > Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
> > > > > > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>
> > > > > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
> > > > > "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>
> > > > In a part of the world where the only word likely to elicit a more
> > > > negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
> > > > the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
>
> > > > I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
> > > > blank.
>
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Yeah. I agree. He would be better off listing "none". Unless of course
> > > he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
> > > possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
>
> > > Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
> > > christian.
>
> > > I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
> > > because some atheist lacked tollerance... Atheists get more protection
> > > and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> > > then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>
> > > That sounds a lot like "bitting the hand that feeds you".. eh?
>
> > > Sure it does.
>
> [...]
>
> > �And a moment of thought would make you
> > realize that atheists get more protection in western Europe than here.
>
> You do realize that, with your sole restriction, you guaranteed that
> notion will stay at least 3 counties away from ASI's consciousness,
> right?
>
> Chris
Of course. Pretending to address ASI was a conscious literary
conceit.
Mitchell
Ye Old One
<allse...@usa.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>On Dec 15, 8:53�am, Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@starpower.net> wrote:
>> On Dec 15, 8:54 am, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:b5acc922-c1a9-46f3...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > On Dec 15, 5:00 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> > >> Rolf wrote:
>>
>> > >> Your stupidity, filthy evo-ACTIVIST, is monumental.
>>
>> > > Your inability to format a newsgroup post with clarity is stunning.
>>
>> > >> How dare you compare the Taliban with Christians, you filthy hate monger?
>>
>> > > It's shocking! It's like comparing apples with... other apples.
>>
>> > >> Have you *no* respect for the hundreds of American, Canadian, UK and
>> > >> Australian soldiers that died and are dying in Afghanistan?
>>
>> > > Killed by religious fanatics who agree with _you_ about the science of
>> > > evolution and the existence of the afterlife.
>>
>> > Our youngest will face these nuts in six months. His dog tags read
>> > "atheist." I am very proud of that.
>>
>> In a part of the world where the only word likely to elicit a more
>> negative reaction than "Atheist" might be "Jewish," seriously, is this
>> the point upon which you want your boy standing on principle?
>>
>> I myself would advise "Canadian," but they do let you leave that space
>> blank.
>>
>> Mitchell Coffey- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Yeah. I agree. He would be better off listing "none".
'Atheist and 'None' mean the same in this context you idiot!
>Unless of course
>he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
>possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
It is not a matter of being proud - it is a matter of honesty. I know
honesty is not something you know a lot about but there are some of us
who do find it the best policy.
>
>Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
>christian.
>
>I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
>because some atheist lacked tollerance...
Nothing whatsoever to do with atheists. The change was commercial, to
include more groups that they could make money from. The "holidays"
include, but are not limited to: Diwali, Hanukkah, Modranect, Yule,
Inti Raymi, Sadeh, Saturnalia, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, and (of course)
christmas.
>Atheists get more protection
>and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
>then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
Lying arsehole!
>
>That sounds a lot like "bitting the hand that feeds you".. eh?
>
>Sure it does.
--
Bob.
People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
always remember just how bright you made them feel.
Ye Old One
<allse...@usa.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>On Dec 15, 4:39�pm, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>> "All-Seeing-I" <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:bab668fa-6eda-4d28...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Yeah. I agree. He would be better off listing "none". Unless of course
>> > he is willing to take a chance upon a random capture, being tortured,
>> > possibly beheaded, just to feel proud to be tagged "athesit".
>>
>> > Being an athesit to them is one step below a jew but not as good as a
>> > christian.
>>
>> > I think of this every time i see a sign that says "Happy Holidays"
>> > because some atheist lacked tollerance...Atheists get more protection
>> > and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
>> > then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>>
>> Perhaps you have no Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. in your world who
>> don't appreciate the government they support with their taxes babbling on
>> about a Christian holiday?
>
>Sure. I have them where I live.
>
>But I am specifically discussing atheists right now.
>
>Do you always lack such focus?
>
>There is medication for ADD.
You should get some - and some reading comprehension lessons.
--
Bob.
Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright
ideas from penetrating. Your bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little
sign of breaking down in the near future.
chris thompson
You know, it really wasn't the atheists who made the change from Merry
Christmas to Happy Holidays. Do you know who it really was?
The stores.
In their desire for ever more profit, all the big store chains jumped
on the Happy Holidays bandwagon at light speed. You can bet they
embraced Kwanzaa the same way.
Instead of going on about atheists, most of whom really couldn't give
a shit about saying Merry Christmas (I myself say it all the time to
Christians- costs me nothing and makes people feel good) you might
want to take a clue from these folks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVqqj1v-ZBU
And read about them in Time magazine. They don't care about Happy
Holidays- as a matter of fact, they embrace it, and think Bill
O'Reilly and his 'war on Christmas' is a farking idiot (which he is).
These folks at the Advent Conspiracy think that maybe you should worry
more about the effect the money machine is having on Christmas than
the effect atheists have on Christmas- since the latter should be
absolutely nil, if you really stop to think about it. But the money
machine is another whole story. The Advent Conspiracy suggests
(horror!) you spend a little less money this year, and a little more
time. They point out that Americans spend tens of billions on
Christmas every year. Know how much it would cost to give every person
on the planet access to clean water? 10 billion. I'm gonna send them
some money to drill a well somewhere in Africa, so kids don't get
Guinea Worm.
It ain't the atheists killing Christmas, it's the dollars.
Chris
> Atheists get more protection
> and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
>
Dan Listermann
"haiku jones" <575j...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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.
bpuharic
<allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>Everything from money to the nativity scene in a park is the object of
>their constant whining as they run like children all the way to the
>supreme court. If atheists do not believe in things such as the tooth
>fairy then why should a picture of the tooth fairy be offensive to
>them? It should be meaningless.
tell you what. go up to a person from poland or the czech republic
ask them if the hammer and sickle means something to them...even
though they're not commies, m'kay?
Anything involving religion should
>lack meaning and therefore have no ability to offend. How can you be
>offended by something that is meaningless to you?
who said it's meaningless?
you creationists...you think you get to put words in people's mouths
>
>Because the very religion they have no tollerence for is the same
>religion that would stand up for their right to be free and believe
>what they want.
>
christianity has never done this. as the late historian and rabbi
arthur hertzberg once said, there was never a christian govt. that
protected the rights of its citizens
>Getting back to the point though. My concern if for the child that has
>to go to a country and fight against a people that would be barbaric
>just because of their hatred for atheists.
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>One can be proud to be atheist but smart enough to conceal that fact
>under some circumstances. Being sent to War in a what is a
>predominately radical Muslim controlled country would be one of those
>circumstances IMHO. There would be no shame to conceal the truth in
>this case.
radical muslim?
you mean 'religious'....
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All-seeing-I
wrote:
Yeah, You make some valid points.
but it was the atheists that initially started whining about the
phrase"merry Christmas" and then the stores saw how profitable it was
to cater to a generic audience.
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> > Atheists get more protection
> > and support from those nasty american christians they hate so much
> > then they would ever get anywhere else in this world.
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> > That sounds a lot like "bitting the hand that feeds you".. eh?
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