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OT: Heartland Institute joins ICR, etc.

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Robert Grumbine

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May 4, 2012, 3:27:37 PM5/4/12
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Not that there was much doubt, but the Heartland Institute is
doing its part to show the similarity between YEC and climate
change denial.

At hand, is to equate those it disagrees with to mass murderers:
http://climateconference.heartland.org/our-billboards/

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Robert Camp

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May 5, 2012, 10:19:44 AM5/5/12
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On May 4, 12:27 pm, Robert Grumbine <b...@saltmine.radix.net> wrote:
> Not that there was much doubt, but the Heartland Institute is
> doing its part to show the similarity between YEC and climate
> change denial.
>
>   At hand, is to equate those it disagrees with to mass murderers:http://climateconference.heartland.org/our-billboards/

I like this part,

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"Are you saying anyone who believes in global warming is a mass
murderer, tyrant, or terrorist?

Of course not. But we are saying that the ethics of many advocates of
global warming are very suspect. Consider two recent scandals that
exposed the way they think:

Climategate was the leak of emails from the Climatic Research Unit at
the University of East Anglia in England in 2010 and 2011. The emails
revealed a conspiracy to suppress debate, rig the peer review process
to keep out of the leading academic journals any scientists skeptical
of catastrophic man-caused global warming, hiding data, fudging
research findings, and dodging Freedom of Information Act requests.

Fakegate was the theft in early 2012 of confidential corporate
documents from The Heartland Institute by Dr. Peter Gleick, a leading
climate scientist and president of the Pacific Institute for Studies
in Development, Environment, and Security in Oakland, California.
Gleick admitted on February 20 to using a false identity to steal the
documents and then disseminating them – along with a fake memo
purporting to be Heartland’s “climate strategy” – to sympathetic
bloggers and journalists."
--------------------------------

So when climatologist's email accounts are "leaked" (hacked) it's okay
because there was some dubious evidence of malfeasance.

But when Heartland documents are "stolen" (accidentally emailed to
Gleick by Heartland*) it's not okay, regardless of strong evidence of
malfeasance.

RLC

(*To potential bellyachers, yes, I'm aware of and admit Gleick's
errors in judgement in the course of following up on the original
documents.)

Robert Grumbine

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May 5, 2012, 10:24:43 PM5/5/12
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More amusingly, see Heartland's prior record:

<http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/18/446716/glass-house-effect-heartland-institute-tried-to-steal-documents-from-greenpeace/?mobile=nc>

> (*To potential bellyachers, yes, I'm aware of and admit Gleick's
> errors in judgement in the course of following up on the original
> documents.)

Indeed. Yet, by Heartland's standards, the only thing he did wrong
was to not do it for Heartland's benefit.

And, unlike Heartland in the current situation, Gleick acknowledged
that he was wrong to do as he did. Heartland (see their own words)
retracted nothing, nor acknowledged any error in what they did. It
was an experiment to gain attention, and succeeded. Having gotten
attention, they decided to discontinue the experiment -- an experiment
they feel perfectly ok with morally.

Nor should one be surprised. One of their keynote speakers, before
he was a keynote speaker, likened people who disagreed with him to
Nazis, and the younger ones as Hitler Youth. (Monckton). And Bast
(Heartland CEO then and now) had gone to the unabomber well before,
e.g., July 2006:
<http://rabett.blogspot.com/2012/05/billboards-are-just-repeats-of-garbage.html>



In the mean time, there's nothing clear about any of the documents
Gleick released being faked. Heartland's own statements require that
no more than one be fake. And that one has been analyzed by alleged
text experts who arrive at the conclusion expected by their priors.


Remember, the Unabomber believes the earth is round, do you?
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