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All-seeing-I

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:20:56 AM11/22/09
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Boikat

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:30:44 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> design confirmed
>
> http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.com/tppinfo.htm

Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
and gullible.

You are a perfect example of their target audiance.


Boikat

bobsyo...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:13:49 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> design confirmed
>
> http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.

"Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena) can
ONLY be verified by evidence - not deranged and deluded opinions and
unsupported lies.

All-seeing-I

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:11:38 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 4:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

This is where you freaks fail in your logic. You cannot explain a
supernatural occurrence with a natural science. You also have not
established the supernatural does not exist since you have no way to
test that idea.

At one time man could not hear frequencies the animals could. So
according to you freaks, those sounds simply did not exist until YOU
could hear them with technology. But that is wrong, isn't it. The
sounds did, in fact, exist. Likewise, with the supernatural, just
because you can not test for it yet does not mean it does not exist.

VoiceOfReason

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:28:11 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 4:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> design confirmed
>
> http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.com/tppinfo.htm

No evidence for design there. Fail.

Boikat

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:34:31 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 8:11 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 4:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > design confirmed
>
> > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.
>
> > "Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena) can
> > ONLY be verified by evidence - not deranged and deluded opinions and
> > unsupported lies.
>
> This is where you freaks fail in your logic. You cannot explain a
> supernatural occurrence with a natural science. You also have not
> established the supernatural does not exist since you have no way to
> test that idea.

By the exact same standard, you cannot show that the supernatural
exists.

>
> At one time man could not hear frequencies the animals could. So
> according to you freaks, those sounds simply did not exist until YOU
> could hear them with technology.

Wrong. "Did not know existed" is not the same thing as saying "they
do not exist", 'tard-boy.

> But that is wrong, isn't it. The
> sounds did, in fact, exist. Likewise, with the supernatural, just
> because you can not test for it yet does not mean it does not exist.

At one time, people thought lightning was cause by some pissed off sky
pixie, too. Now, when you come up with a "god-o-meter, you be sure to
let everyone know about it, okay? Until then, there is no evidence
that there is a "supernatural" world, science cannot address it's
existence, one way or the other.

Boikat

spintronic

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:35:11 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:30 am, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > design confirmed
>
> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...

>
> Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
> and gullible.
>
> You are a perfect example of their target audiance.
>
> Boikat

It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.

Tell me:

Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
thanked anyone for anything?

If you don't wanna thank God,

How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
your nikeys remain below $50?
How about your taxi driver, waitress, hotel porter?
How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?

I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.


spintronic

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:37:56 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 10:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com"

<bobsyoung...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > design confirmed
>
> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.
.
.

> "Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena)


So scientists *AREN'T* designing synthetic life, designer drugs,
artificial intelligence etc etc etc ?

Boikat

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:58:04 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:35 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 9:30 am, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > design confirmed
>
> > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
>
> > Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
> > and gullible.
>
> > You are a perfect example of their target audiance.
>
> > Boikat
>
> It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.

However, just because the water fits the puddle, it doesn't mean
anyone dug a hole.

>
> Tell me:
>
> Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
> thanked anyone for anything?

If I receive a "privilage", yes.

>
> If you don't wanna thank God,

What "God"?


>
> How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
> your nikeys remain below $50?

I don't buy "Nikeys" because they are made in Asian sweat shops.

> How about your taxi driver,

I have my own vehicle, but on the rare occasion when I use need a
taxi, I tip the driver.

> waitress,

I always tip the waitress, unless service is shoddy.

> hotel porter?

I let a porter carry my bags once, lost site of him. My bag was never
delivered to my room, was found in a dumpster behind the hotel, and
had been cut and ripped open, the cloth scatered, and a $400.00+
camera and set of lenses and film was missing, Since then, I *always*
carry my own bags because they usually also contain my cameras or
other valuables. Oddly enough, the baggage always seems to make it to
my room, and all it's contents are present. I don't trust *anyone*
with my stuff when I'm traveling. Ever.

> How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?

I'm not that sappy, and my mom has never tended any "handicapped"
people. Unless she took care of you, and I don't know about it, that
is.

>
> I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.

Then, as usual, you've come to a faulty conclusion based upon your
ignorance, prejudices, stupidity and self hatred, projected onto
others.

Boikat

raven1

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:34:37 AM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:11:38 -0800 (PST), All-seeing-I
<ap...@email.com> wrote:

>On Nov 22, 4:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> > design confirmed
>>
>> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.
>>
>> "Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena) can
>> ONLY be verified by evidence - not deranged and deluded opinions and
>> unsupported lies.
>
>This is where you freaks fail in your logic. You cannot explain a
>supernatural occurrence with a natural science. You also have not
>established the supernatural does not exist since you have no way to
>test that idea.

The burden of proof rests entirely with you. Until and unless you can
demonstrate that "the supernatural" exists, there is no reason to
postulate that it does.

>At one time man could not hear frequencies the animals could. So
>according to you freaks, those sounds simply did not exist until YOU
>could hear them with technology.

No one claims that.

>But that is wrong, isn't it. The
>sounds did, in fact, exist. Likewise, with the supernatural, just
>because you can not test for it yet does not mean it does not exist.

Argument from Ignorance will remain fallacious no matter how often you
advocate it.

Devils Advocaat

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:06:17 PM11/22/09
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On 22 Nov, 09:20, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> design confirmed
>
> http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.com/tppinfo.htm

One of the guys in that clip made a fundamental error.

He has assumed that because the probability value is so small, his own
words are, "this can't happen".

If a probability calculation has a value of 1, that event for which
the calculation has been performed is certain to happen.

If on the other hand the value is 0, then that event will (in the real
world at least) never happen.

But if the value falls anywhere between 1 and 0, then it can (and
probably will) happen.

In fact to say that a real world event with a non-zero probability
value is impossible or can't happen, is ludicrous, especially when you
are looking at the event either after it has happened, or while it is
happening.

Free Lunch

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:14:04 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:06:17 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
<mank...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in talk.origins:

Let's not forget the many times that the model was set up improperly and
the predicted probability was wrong.

spintronic

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:26:03 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 3:58 pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 9:35 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 9:30 am, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > > design confirmed
>
> > > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
>
> > > Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
> > > and gullible.
>
> > > You are a perfect example of their target audiance.
>
> > > Boikat
.
.

> > It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> However, just because the water fits the puddle, it doesn't mean
> anyone dug a hole.

And just because you fell in doesn't mean the workmen never left
signs.


> > Tell me:
>
> > Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
> > thanked anyone for anything?
>
> If I receive a "privilage", yes.

Well you talked to me, you can thank me in your next post.

> > If you don't wanna thank God,
>
> What "God"?


The God you won't thank.


> > How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
> > your nikeys remain below $50?
>
> I don't buy "Nikeys" because they are made in Asian sweat shops.


How about the cheep clothes you buy? Do you believe they wasn't made
in sweat shops?

Had your morning coffee?

Guess you never thanked the farmers who got a pittence, for working
all day so you could have your morning fix.


> > How about your taxi driver,
>
> I have my own vehicle,


Ever thanked the mideast villagers who were turfed out their homes to
supply you with your petrol?

> but on the rare occasion when I use need a
> taxi, I tip the driver.

What do you do? Tell him "never eat yellow snow"?


> > waitress,
>
> I always tip the waitress, unless service is shoddy.

For having to Look at your miserable mug, you should pay double for
half a smile.


> > hotel porter?
>
> I let a porter carry my bags once, lost site of him.  My bag was never
> delivered to my room,


That's because he stole it, silly.

Did you thank the police?

> was found in a dumpster behind the hotel, and
> had been cut and ripped open, the cloth scatered,


Can't blame him for not wanting sweaty boxers & a stained shirt.

> and a $400.00+ camera and set of lenses and film was missing,  Since then, I *always*
> carry my own bags because they usually also contain my cameras or
> other valuables.  Oddly enough, the baggage always seems to make it to
> my room, and all it's contents are present.

I think you tell the bellhop this shady story because you just don't
wanna tip.

> I don't trust *anyone*


That's because paranoia is related to skitzophrenia.


> > How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?
>
> I'm not that sappy, and my mom has never tended any "handicapped"

She tended you.


> Unless she took care of you, and I don't know about it, that is.


Ah so many gags, yet all below my standards.


> > I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.
>
> Then, as usual, you've come to a faulty conclusion based upon your
> ignorance, prejudices, stupidity and self hatred, projected onto
> others.


You do get narky without your slave-provided fix, don't you?

TomS

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:43:21 PM11/22/09
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"On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:06:17 -0800 (PST), in article
<9a877e3d-f247-4e7f...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat stated..."

See the Wikipedia article on "Almost surely".

There is a difference between "Almost sure" (that is, probability
1) and "sure".


--
---Tom S.
the failure to nail currant jelly to a wall is not due to the nail; it is due to
the currant jelly.
Theodore Roosevelt, Letter to William Thayer, 1915 July 2

heekster

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:45:06 PM11/22/09
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No, what is confirmed is your grotesquely credulous imbecility.

Eric Root

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:41:26 PM11/22/09
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So, name three supernatural eveents in the last 10 years.

Eric Root

Ye Old One

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:47:31 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:11:38 -0800 (PST), All-seeing-I
<ap...@email.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>On Nov 22, 4:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> > design confirmed
>>
>> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.
>>
>> "Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena) can
>> ONLY be verified by evidence - not deranged and deluded opinions and
>> unsupported lies.
>
>This is where you freaks fail in your logic. You cannot explain a
>supernatural occurrence with a natural science. You also have not
>established the supernatural does not exist since you have no way to
>test that idea.

Well, if you can find a supernatural phenomenon then I will be happy
to investigate it for you.

But, in reality, you don't have any.


>
>At one time man could not hear frequencies the animals could.

Some animals have hearing outside our normal range. No mystery to that
once it was worked out that sound was vibrations in the air.

Of course your childish religion would put it down to the
supernatural.

> So
>according to you freaks, those sounds simply did not exist until YOU
>could hear them with technology.

Where the hell did you get that stupid idea from?

> But that is wrong, isn't it.

Yes, you are wrong - as usual.

> The
>sounds did, in fact, exist. Likewise, with the supernatural, just
>because you can not test for it yet does not mean it does not exist.

Ah! Big difference. One, the sound, is a phenomenon, the other, the
supernatural, is just fantasy.


--
Bob.

You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Boikat

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:33:08 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 11:26 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:58 pm, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 9:35 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 22, 9:30 am, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > design confirmed
>
> > > > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
>
> > > > Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
> > > > and gullible.
>
> > > > You are a perfect example of their target audiance.
>
> > > > Boikat
>
> .
> .
>
> > > It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> > However, just because the water fits the puddle, it doesn't mean
> > anyone dug a hole.
>
> And just because you fell in doesn't mean the workmen never left
> signs.

Evasion of point, noted. No evidence of any "workmen".

>
> > > Tell me:
>
> > > Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
> > > thanked anyone for anything?
>
> > If I receive a "privilage", yes.
>
> Well you talked to me, you can thank me in your next post.

"Talking to you" is no more of a "privilage" than wipeing my ass after
taking a dump.

>
> > > If you don't wanna thank God,
>
> > What "God"?
>
> The God you won't thank.

Why should I thank something that does not exist?

>
> > > How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
> > > your nikeys remain below $50?
>
> > I don't buy "Nikeys" because they are made in Asian sweat shops.
>
> How about the cheep clothes you buy? Do you believe they wasn't made
> in sweat shops?

What makes you think I buy cheap cloth? And besides that, what make
you think all 'cheap cloth' is made in a sweat shop? Or do you
believe all cloth is made in a sweat shop?


>
> Had your morning coffee?

Nope. I do not drink coffee.

>
> Guess you never thanked the farmers who got a pittence, for working
> all day so you could have your morning fix.

You keep jumping to these weird conclusions with nothing to go on but
your own bitter self image. Why is that?

>
> > > How about your taxi driver,
>
> > I have my own vehicle,
>
> Ever thanked the mideast villagers who were turfed out their homes to
> supply you with your petrol?

Have you?

>
> > but on the rare occasion when I use need a
> > taxi, I tip the driver.
>
> What do you do? Tell him "never eat yellow snow"?

Why would I do that?

>
> > > waitress,
>
> > I always tip the waitress, unless service is shoddy.
>
> For having to Look at your miserable mug, you should pay double for
> half a smile.

How would you know what my "mug' looks like, or if it's "miserable"?
Or, are you projecting, again?

>
> > > hotel porter?
>
> > I let a porter carry my bags once, lost site of him.  My bag was never
> > delivered to my room,
>
> That's because he stole it, silly.

No fucking shit?

>
> Did you thank the police?

Yup, right ater I finished fileing the report.

>
> > was found in a dumpster behind the hotel, and
> > had been cut and ripped open, the cloth scatered,
>
> Can't blame him for not wanting sweaty boxers & a stained shirt.

They were U. S. Air Force Uniforms and some clean civies, asshole.

>
> > and a $400.00+ camera and set of lenses and film was missing,  Since then, I *always*
> > carry my own bags because they usually also contain my cameras or
> > other valuables.  Oddly enough, the baggage always seems to make it to
> > my room, and all it's contents are present.
>
> I think you tell the bellhop this shady story because you just don't
> wanna tip.

No, I politly inform him that I will carry my own luggage, as is my
right, asshole, and I do not bother with telling him about being
ripped off.

>
> > I don't trust *anyone*
>
> That's because paranoia is related to skitzophrenia.

I noticed you dishonestly snipped the context, as usual. Here's the
full sentence:

"I don't trust *anyone* with my stuff when I'm traveling. Ever."

>
> > > How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?
>
> > I'm not that sappy, and my mom has never tended any "handicapped"
>
> She tended you.

I'm not handicapped, like you.

>
> > Unless she took care of you, and I don't know about it, that is.
>
> Ah so many gags, yet all below my standards.

The only "standard" you have is "how can I project my faults on to
others to make me feel better about myself". Then there's the
dishonest snippage, so you "honesty" standards must also be pretty
low.

>
> > > I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.
>
> > Then, as usual, you've come to a faulty conclusion based upon your
> > ignorance, prejudices, stupidity and self hatred, projected onto
> > others.
>
> You do get narky without your slave-provided fix, don't you?

Whereas you are *snarky* because you're a lackwitted idiot with
delusions of adequacy.

Boikat

bpuharic

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:05:04 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:11:38 -0800 (PST), All-seeing-I
<ap...@email.com> wrote:

>On Nov 22, 4:13 am, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> > design confirmed
>>
>> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.
>>
>> "Design" (which., in no way, shape or form is a scientific phenomena) can
>> ONLY be verified by evidence - not deranged and deluded opinions and
>> unsupported lies.
>
>This is where you freaks fail in your logic. You cannot explain a
>supernatural occurrence with a natural science.

correct. because the supernatural doesn't exist. for thousands of
years you guys said it did.

and to date you haven't produced a single example of the supernatural.
not one.


You also have not
>established the supernatural does not exist since you have no way to
>test that idea.

prove santa doesn't exist.

>
>At one time man could not hear frequencies the animals could.

ah. i noticed you changed this formulation. it USED to be that
animals, according to you, could hear better than we can. because of
science, that's wrong. creatoinism had zip to do with it

So
>according to you freaks, those sounds simply did not exist until YOU
>could hear them with technology

?? if we thought they didn't exist

then why did we build instruments to hear them?

what a fucking idiot


.. But that is wrong, isn't it. The


>sounds did, in fact, exist. Likewise, with the supernatural, just
>because you can not test for it yet does not mean it does not exist.

why don't YOU tell us how to find the supernatural?

you cant

bobsyo...@yahoo.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:40:26 AM11/23/09
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"spintronic" <spint...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 22, 9:30 am, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > design confirmed
>
> >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
>
> Only in the minds of the deluded, ignorant, illiterate, incredulous,
> and gullible.
>
> You are a perfect example of their target audiance.
>
> Boikat

It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.

**** It's not a documentary, it's just a composite of lies, fables,
fantasies and fabrications from other stupid creationists!

Tell me:

Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
thanked anyone for anything?

If you don't wanna thank God,

*****What god?
*****You got and REAL and VALID evidence for ANY god?


How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
your nikeys remain below $50?
How about your taxi driver, waitress, hotel porter?
How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?

I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.

***** I'll be you never had a rational thought in YOUR whole life!


bobsyo...@yahoo.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:45:52 AM11/23/09
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Boikat

and religious morons cannot make ANY valid claims that it (or any god) does
exist!


bobsyo...@yahoo.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:43:26 AM11/23/09
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"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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Yes. Some of the criteria set up for those statistics was outrageously
laughable.

Devils Advocaat

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On 23 Nov, 05:43, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
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> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:06:17 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
> > <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in talk.origins:

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> >>On 22 Nov, 09:20, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> >>> design confirmed
>
> >>>http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...

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> >>One of the guys in that clip made a fundamental error.
>
> >>He has assumed that because the probability value is so small, his own
> >>words are, "this can't happen".
>
> >>If a probability calculation has a value of 1, that event for which
> >>the calculation has been performed is certain to happen.
>
> >>If on the other hand the value is 0, then that event will (in the real
> >>world at least) never happen.
>
> >>But if the value falls anywhere between 1 and 0, then it can (and
> >>probably will) happen.
>
> >>In fact to say that a real world event with a non-zero probability
> >>value is impossible or can't happen, is ludicrous, especially when you
> >>are looking at the event either after it has happened, or while it is
> >>happening.
>
> > Let's not forget the many times that the model was set up improperly and
> > the predicted probability was wrong.
>
> Yes. Some of the criteria set up for those statistics was outrageously
> laughable.

I agree with you there, but what puzzles me is why try and work out
the probability of something that clearly has already happened?

spintronic

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:54:05 AM11/23/09
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On 22 Nov, 23:33, Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 11:26 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> > > However, just because the water fits the puddle, it doesn't mean
> > > anyone dug a hole.
>
> > And just because you fell in doesn't mean the workmen never left
> > signs.
>
> Evasion of point, noted.

Do you need to borrow my pen officer?

> No evidence of any "workmen".


No evaluation capability of the fool in the hole, you mean?

> > > > Tell me:
>
> > > > Normally if you receive a privilege, you give thanks. Have you 'ever'
> > > > thanked anyone for anything?
>
> > > If I receive a "privilage", yes.
>
> > Well you talked to me, you can thank me in your next post.
>
> "Talking to you" is no more of a "privilage" than wipeing my ass after
> taking a dump.


Did you thank the tree you chopped down, to clean up your mess?


> > > > If you don't wanna thank God,
>
> > > What "God"?
>
> > The God you won't thank.
>
> Why should I thank something that does not exist?

How do you know He doesn't exist??


> > > > How about the 5 year old kids in sweat shops working 12 hours a day so
> > > > your nikeys remain below $50?
>
> > > I don't buy "Nikeys" because they are made in Asian sweat shops.
>
> > How about the cheep clothes you buy? Do you believe they wasn't made
> > in sweat shops?
>
> What makes you think I buy cheap cloth?

Everything about you is cheap.


> And besides that, what make
> you think all 'cheap cloth' is made in a sweat shop?  Or do you
> believe all cloth is made in a sweat shop?


All clothes are made either by local family run producers, or
corporate enforced sweat shops.

What does your tag say, I'll work it out?

Ignore the 48 " waste size tag,

I mean the manufacturers symbol.


> > Had your morning coffee?
>
> Nope.  I do not drink coffee.

You should, might wake your brain up for once.


> > Guess you never thanked the farmers who got a pittence, for working
> > all day so you could have your morning fix.
>
> You keep jumping to these weird conclusions with nothing to go on but
> your own bitter self image.  Why is that?


How about soya, sugar, fish, coco, peas, bread, milk?

What do you eat? And who have you ever thanked?

(Even in your head for just a second)

> > > > How about your taxi driver,
>
> > > I have my own vehicle,
>
> > Ever thanked the mideast villagers who were turfed out their homes to
> > supply you with your petrol?
>
> Have you?

I don't own a pollution vehicle. But If I did, I would.


> > > but on the rare occasion when I use need a
> > > taxi, I tip the driver.
>
> > What do you do? Tell him "never eat yellow snow"?
>
> Why would I do that?


It's good advice.


> > > > waitress,
>
> > > I always tip the waitress, unless service is shoddy.
>
> > For having to Look at your miserable mug, you should pay double for
> > half a smile.
>
> How would you know what my "mug' looks like, or if it's "miserable"?
> Or, are you projecting, again?


I perceive your projection. Cheer up, it may never happen. (Of course
it already is though)


> > > > hotel porter?
>
> > > I let a porter carry my bags once, lost site of him.  My bag was never
> > > delivered to my room,
>
> > That's because he stole it, silly.
>
> No fucking shit?

Ya, and I'm all the way over here.


> > Did you thank the police?
>
> Yup, right ater I finished fileing the report.


You thanked them for never finding your Cam & Porn film?

That's weird.


> > > was found in a dumpster behind the hotel, and
> > > had been cut and ripped open, the cloth scatered,
>
> > Can't blame him for not wanting sweaty boxers & a stained shirt.
>
> They were U. S. Air Force Uniforms and some clean civies, asshole.

Funny, this says, "made in china"

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/265390380/Air_Force_Uniform_Army_Uniform_Marine.html

Thought you didn't endorce sweat shops?

> > > and a $400.00+ camera and set of lenses and film was missing,  Since then, I *always*
> > > carry my own bags because they usually also contain my cameras or
> > > other valuables.  Oddly enough, the baggage always seems to make it to
> > > my room, and all it's contents are present.
>
> > I think you tell the bellhop this shady story because you just don't
> > wanna tip.
>
> No, I politly inform him that I will carry my own luggage,


As he walks away saying "tight Ba....D"!


> as is my right, asshole, and I do not bother with telling him about being
> ripped off.


Why should you, you just deprived him of his supplemented wage.


> > > I don't trust *anyone*
>
> > That's because paranoia is related to skitzophrenia.
>
> I noticed you dishonestly snipped the context, as usual.  Here's the
> full sentence:


Where?


> > > > How about your mum for giving birth & caring for the handicapped?
>
> > > I'm not that sappy, and my mom has never tended any "handicapped"
>
> > She tended you.
>
> I'm not handicapped

Is that what she told you?

Cruel woman. (Or is that kind?)


> > > Unless she took care of you, and I don't know about it, that is.
>
> > Ah so many gags, yet all below my standards.
>
> The only "standard" you have is "how can I project my faults on to
> others to make me feel better about myself".  Then there's the
> dishonest snippage, so you "honesty" standards must also be pretty

> high

I also have other talents.


> > > > I bet you never thanked anyone for anything in your entire life.
>
> > > Then, as usual, you've come to a faulty conclusion based upon your
> > > ignorance, prejudices, stupidity and self hatred, projected onto
> > > others.
>
> > You do get narky without your slave-provided fix, don't you?
>
> Whereas you are *snarky* because you're a lackwitted idiot with
> delusions of adequacy.


We need a large coffe over here. "Double espresso" stat.

spintronic

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:52:01 AM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov, 05:40, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "spintronic" <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> **** It's not a documentary, it's just a composite of lies,


I'll start watching now. You tell me where the first lie is.

For every lie you find, I will give you 10 of evolutionists.

Devils Advocaat

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:57:07 AM11/23/09
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The physicist from the JPL insists that because the probability is so
low "this can't happen".

This is at best a genuine mistake on his part, at worst a deliberate
lie.

spintronic

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:35:26 PM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov, 16:57, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23 Nov, 15:52, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On 23 Nov, 05:40, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:> "spintronic" <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > .
> > .
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> > > > > design confirmed
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> > > > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
.
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> > > It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> > > **** It's not a documentary, it's just a composite of lies,
>
> > I'll start watching now. You tell me where the first lie is.
>
> > For every lie you find, I will give you 10 of evolutionists.
>
> The physicist from the JPL insists that because the probability is so
> low "this can't happen".

Are you saying physicists could be wrong?

Or

Are you saying the physicists at JPL are creationists?

Either way, that's 2 lies for evolutionists.

> This is at best a genuine mistake on his part, at worst a deliberate
> lie

Or a conspiracy of creationists to takeover the brightest minds on the
planet.

Boikat

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:27:11 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 8:54 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip snark, leaving any honest or rational points raised by
spinny...>

Damn, nothing left.


Boikat

Devils Advocaat

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:39:00 PM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov, 17:35, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 Nov, 16:57, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:> On 23 Nov, 15:52, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Nov, 05:40, "PepsiFr...@teranews.com" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:> "spintronic" <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > .
> > > .
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> > > > > > design confirmed
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> > > > > >http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.c...
>
> .
> .
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> > > > It is a privileged planet. And that's a good documentary for all.
>
> > > > **** It's not a documentary, it's just a composite of lies,
>
> > > I'll start watching now. You tell me where the first lie is.
>
> > > For every lie you find, I will give you 10 of evolutionists.
>
> > The physicist from the JPL insists that because the probability is so
> > low "this can't happen".
>
> Are you saying physicists could be wrong?
>
> Or
>
> Are you saying the physicists at JPL are creationists?
>
> Either way, that's 2 lies for evolutionists.

I am not claiming either of those things and you know that.

I merely pointed out that this one individual is in error with respect
to his insistence that a non-zero probability event, such as the one
described in the clip, can't happen.

After all it has happened in at least one case, otherwise none of us
would be here to debate on the probability of the said event
happening.

Occidental

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:30:14 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 4:20 am, All-seeing-I <ap...@email.com> wrote:
> design confirmed
>
> http://www.illustramedia.com/tpppreview.htmhttp://www.illustramedia.com/tppinfo.htm

According to the video, the probability of a given star having a
planet suitable for human life is 10^-19 (2:12 in the video). The
typical number of stars in a galaxy is 10^11. A lower bound for the
number of galaxies in the universe is also 10^11. So the expected
number of suitable planets in the universe will be 10^(22-19) = 1000.

bpuharic

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:51:33 PM11/23/09
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that could possibly be true. because the only lie in creationism

is creationism itself

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