New World Order - A Freemason Conspiracy - The Antichrist
Barbarossa
Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the
greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER
discover that the symbol exists. In this article, we shall demonstrate
positive proofs of conspiracy to achieve the ends of Freemasonry, i.e.,
achieving the New World Order. And, these proofs exist right under your
eyes, in Washington, D.C., the Capital district. Prepare for the unexpected.
Before you read this article, you might want to go to a map store to buy a
street map of Washington, D.C.
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We will demonstrate that the street design in Government Center in
Washington, D.C., has been cunningly laid out in such a manner that certain
Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries.
This design was created by an Masonic architect in 1791, just a few years
after Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order, in 1782.
Remember, occult leaders in Europe were told by their Familiar Spirits as
early as the 1740's that the new American continent was to be established as
the new "Atlantis", and its destiny was to assume the global leadership of
the drive to the New World Order. From the beginning, the United States of
America was chosen to lead the world into this kingdom of Antichrist, and
Washington, D.C. was to be its capital.
You will need to have your maps of Washington, D.C., opened in front of you
as we proceed. As we proceed through this discussion we will answer the
great question of "Why" these streets have thus been laid out.
Before we begin our discussion of this Washington, D.C. map, let us lay some
important groundwork which will enable us to better understand the occultic
meaning behind what we are about to show you. This information was given
Cutting Edge Ministries by a born-again Christian who was once a medium
level Satanist, Doc Marquee. At the time of his conversion, Doc was in
charge of several Satanic covens West and North of Boston. Doc was a Third
Level Witch and a Master Witch. Shortly before Doc was born-again, he was
invited to become an Illuminist, which is a secret society totally committed
to the New World Order. Thus, Doc was in a most powerful position: he was
both a Satanist Master Witch and an Illuminist.
Doc underwent special training in the Illuminist secret society. As part of
his training, he was shown the occultic nature of the street design of the
Washington, D.C., Governmental Center. This information was provided to show
Doc several factors:
1. This design demonstrates the long-term plan which American Illuminists
have had upon America. As we shall see in a few moments, this occultic
street design was created in 1791 by an architect who was a Freemason.
2. This design shows that the Plan for a New World Order is deliberately
conceived and considered to be inevitable. Remember our earlier discussion
about the importance and perceived power of symbols? The occultist firmly
believes that a symbol or a set of symbols possesses inherent power once
they are created. Therefore, occultic doctrine teaches that these Satanic
symbols would act as a powerful electric-type grid once they were set in
place. This power grid would constantly pulsate with Luciferic power 24
hours a day, seven days a week, constantly moving America toward the coveted
Luciferic goal of the New World Order.
3. This design demonstrates the hidden, secret power wielded by the
Illuminists in the United States. Luciferic Illuminists have their hands on
the most powerful levers of political, economic, and military power in this
country, and they wield this power without any public understanding of what
is really going on.
Thus, Doc and other Illuminists were shown this street design with the
express purpose of demonstrating that they were on the winning side in this
drive to the New World Order.
Now, let us examine the street layout of Washington, D.C., starting with a
little bit of history.
When the architect, Pierre Charles L'Enfante, who was a Freemason, laid out
Governmental Center of Washington, D.C., in 1791, he planned more than just
streets, roads, and buildings. He planned to use the layout of Governmental
Center to hide certain occultic magical symbols, which, when they were
instituted, became one large Luciferic, or occultic, symbol. An occultic
magical symbol is defined as "...an image which hides an inner meaning. This
meaning is usually cunningly hidden behind a form..." (Frederick Goodman,
Magic Symbols, Brian Trodd Publishing House, Ltd., London, 1989, page 6).
This definition from this Luciferic book is so important, we need to repeat
it. An occultic magical symbol is defined as "...an image which hides an
inner meaning. This meaning is usually cunningly hidden behind a form..." As
we study this occultic street design of Washington, D.C., Governmental
Center, you will be seriously tempted to disregard this information. Please
do not, because these symbols are "cunningly hidden" behind a form.
Further, occultists always depend upon the natural human tendency to want to
disbelieve unpleasant or frightening truth. The Masters of the Illuminati
always had a saying, "Audacity, always Audacity". Of course, Audacity means
something so shocking and so far out, it is to be considered impossible.
People naturally feel, both in a democracy and a government of royalty, that
their leaders generally have their best interests at heart. Some leaders may
be incompetent and some others may commit errors, but at least, people take
solace in their belief that most leaders most of the time, have their
country's best interests at heart. The average citizen of any country simply
cannot conceive that their leaders may consistently have evil in their
hearts toward the very people they are leading. But, as we have consistently
shown, this is precisely the case. Our leadership has been consistently
moving us toward the Luciferic New World Order since 1776, always working
through Secret Societies, and always misleading the people as to their true
intentions.
This is why our study today is so critical; it demonstrates, beyond a shadow
of a doubt, that our leadership has knowingly and consistently been pursuing
a hidden agenda which, when fully carried out, will mean the destruction of
our nation as we know it today and the beginning of the Biblical Great
Tribulation. Our leaders are currently calling this system the New World
Order!
Now back to the symbols embedded within the streets of Washington, D.C.:
These occultic symbols, once they are hidden, are thought to possess great
power. For example, the Snake Basilisk is "said to have the power to destroy
all upon whom it looks" (Ibid, page 7). However, the person who is not an
occultist will have no concept of the true hidden meaning contained within
the symbol. Therefore, symbols also serve another purpose: to communicate
certain meanings to other occultists while hiding this meaning from all
non-occultists.
Therefore, the symbols which have been interwoven into the design of
Governmental Center, communicate tremendous power to the occultist while
hiding the meaning from anyone who is not an occultist. And, these symbols
take on a life of their own, in the mind of the occultist, possessing great
inherent power to accomplish the plans of the occultist.
With this as background, let us now begin our study of Governmental Center,
Washington, D.C.
Beginning from top left to top middle:
1. Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, and Scott Circle in the middle, form the top
three points of the Devil's Goathead of Mendes, one of the most important
types of the Five-pointed Devil's Pentagram.
2. Washington Circle forms the extreme left-hand point of the Goathead.
3. Mt. Vernon Square forms the extreme right-hand point of the Goathead.
4. The White House forms the fifth and bottom point of the Goathead.
In occultic/Satanic doctrine, the upper four points of the Goathead
represent the four elements of the world, Fire, Water, Earth, and Air. The
bottom fifth point represents the spirit of Lucifer. In the photocopy of the
Goathead Pentagram, the fifth point extends down into the mind of the goat,
who represents Lucifer. Thus, in this street layout, the fifth point is the
White House, a symbol placement which represents the intention that the
spirit and the mind of Lucifer will be permanently residing in the White
House.
There is a 666 evident in the most important top three circles of the
Goathead, Dupont Circle, Scott Circle, and Logan Circle. Each of these
streets has six major streets coming into them from all angles of the
circle. This type of encoding is so typical of the occultist. Do not be
deceived into thinking that this is accidental; everything I am showing you
here today was deliberately planned to stamp the power of Freemasonry and
the symbols of its plans for America indelibly upon Governmental Center. The
combination of the Devil's Pentagram, the Goathead of Mendes, and the
practical existence of the number 666 within the three upper points of the
Pentagram, unmistakably shows that Lucifer is planned to be the ultimate
master of Governmental Center.
Now look for a moment at the circles which comprise the points of the
Pentagram. Washington Circle, Dupont Circle, Scott Circle, and Logan Circle
comprise four of the six points of the Pentagram. The only point which is
not a circle or a form of a circle is Mt. Vernon Square. We shall return to
the discussion of the importance of the square to the occultist, but let us
now concentrate upon the circle.
It is no secret as to why the Masonic architect chose to use circles as four
of the points of the Pentagram. As Goodman states in his book, Magic
Symbols, "without doubt, the circle is the most important of all units in
magic symbolism, and in almost every case where it is used, the circle is
intended to denote spirit, or spiritual forces". Therefore, we can know with
certainty that these circles of this Pentagram were used to denote powerful
spiritual forces. And, of course, these spiritual forces are from Lucifer.
But, there is much more symbolism expressed by the circle in occultic
thought. The circle has also been used as a halo above a person's head,
denoting that "he or she is in direct communication with the spiritual
world". (Ibid, page 29). The circle has also been utilized to represent the
Sun, especially in spiritual terms, denoting spiritual light. But, the
circle also is utilized as a symbol of the All-Seeing Eye. Remember the
All-Seeing Eye atop the pyramid on our One-Dollar bill? This eye is within a
triangle, but the important factor to realize is that the eye is atop a
pyramid. Of course, a pyramid is nothing more than a triangle. Look again at
the triangles formed by the Goathead Pentagram. Four out of five triangles
of the Goathead has a circle, representing the All-Seeing Eye atop each
triangle. However, the architect had a problem with the triangle at the far
right, because he chose the square as the anchor point; the solution is to
place Thomas Circle at one of the points, thus giving that triangle an
All-Seeing Eye. In fact, I believe this is the reason why Thomas Circle was
placed in the odd position it was; it is the only circle which was not
placed as an anchor of the Pentagram. Even the Southern Point of the
Goathead Pentagram, the one which ends at the White House, has a circle at
its top. Notice the Ellipse located just to the south of the White House
lawn.
Thus, the Freemason architect who drew this pattern intended to show that
Governmental Center was planned to be ruled by Satan. Further, the Goathead
Pentagram was placed so the Southernmost point, the spiritual point, is
precisely centered on the White House. Notice that I did not arbitrarily
draw these lines to center on the White House; rather, the White House is
the precise point where the two lines formed by Connecticut Avenue flowing
from Dupont Circle, and by Vermont Avenue flowing from Logan Circle,
intersect. The meaning is all too clear. Occultists planned for the White
House to be controlled by Lucifer in accordance with his occultic power and
doctrine.
But, there is still more meaning expressed by this Goathead Pentagram.
Quickly look again at the photocopy of the Devil's Pentagram, as copied from
Goodman's Magic Symbol book. Protruding from the middle top of the Pentagram
is a lighted candle, which is producing light. This physical light
represents spiritual illumination. If this representation were made on a
map, this illuminating candle would be thought of as being North. North is a
very important direction, because it is the place of Governmental control.
In I Ching, for example, North is the "place one reports to the master on
accomplishments". (New Age Dictionary). This is again a fulfillment of
Scripture. Remember in Isaiah 14:12-14, where God recalls Lucifer's original
sin of pride and rebellion? Lucifer had every intention of taking God's
throne by force and establishing his own reign. In verses 13 and 14, Lucifer
vowed, "I will ascend to Heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of
God; I will sit upon the mount of assembly in the uttermost north..." Did
you see that North is apparently the direction in which God's throne is
situated, and Lucifer planned to take it over. North is the place,
occultists believe, where Governmental authority dwells.
Now look at the Goathead Pentagram again. Scott Circle is precisely located
at the middle of the Goathead, and 16th Street proceeds directly north. As
you look directly north on 16th Street, you will immediately see the House
Of The Temple, which is the North American Headquarters of Freemasonry. Even
the number 16 is significant to the occultist; it is 4x4 (Remember that the
four upper points of the Goathead Pentagram represent the Four Elements of
which the earth is constructed). Number 16 literally means "felicity",
which, according to my Webster's Dictionary, means blissful happiness or
anything which will produce such a state. Certainly, blissful happiness is
the stated goal of any Satanic system. A corollary meaning of 16 is love.
The number 16 also pops up in an encoded manner. Both Dupont Circle and
Logan Circle, which form the top two most important points of the Goathead
Pentagram, are located on "P" Street. "P" is the 16th letter of the English
alphabet.
Sixteenth Street emanates north from Scott Circle, which is itself the
precise middle of the Goathead Pentagram. This street represents the candle
of the photocopy. The illuminating light of the candle is represented by the
House Of The Temple, which begins on "R" Street. The architect is literally
saying that Freemasonry is the spiritual light of this Goathead Pentagram;
of course, this Goathead Pentagram is rooted at the White House. One quick
word on "R" Street. The letter "R" is the 18th letter of the English
alphabet, and 18 is critically important to the occultist because it is
6+6+6.
The House Of The Temple is also located 13 city blocks north of the White
House. Count them yourself, beginning with the first city block north of
Lafayette Square. Of course, the number 13 represents rebellion against
God's authority, and is generally thought of as Satan's number. It is no
accident the House Of The Temple is located 13 blocks north of the White
House. The meaning occulticly transmitted is that the control of the White
House would be spiritual and would emanate from the House Of The Temple.
Certainly, many American Presidents have been Freemasons. The most famous is
George Washington, but the most influential was Franklin D. Roosevelt, who
did more to advance the cause of the New World Order than anyone else in
American history.
The critical importance of this symbolism pointed out above, namely, that
the Presidency of the United States is to be controlled by Freemasonry, is
thoroughly documented by Christian author, Ralph Epperson, in his book, "The
New World Order". On page 171, Epperson quotes testimony given in March,
1867, before the House Judiciary Committee, by General Gordon Granger.
General Granger related a meeting between himself, President Andrew Johnson,
who was a Mason, and Albert Pike, the most famous of all Masons. General
Granger reported his surprise that President Johnson considered himself to
be subordinate to Albert Pike. This subordination is detailed in the oath
the initiate takes during the Third Degree, called the Master Mason's
degree, inside the Blue Lodge. This oath states, "I do promise...that I will
obey all...summonses..given..to me from the hand of a Brother Master Mason
..." Presidents who are Masons are obligated to take orders from their
Master Masons. But why should we be surprised? This is the meaning of the
symbolization contained by the House Of The Temple being precisely 13 city
blocks north of the White House.
Now, let us quickly examine the importance of the square to the occultist.
We need to understand this because the Eastern point of this Goathead
Pentagram is a square, not a circle. The square is comprised of two (2)
vertical lines and two (2) horizontal. According to Goodman in his book,
"Magical Symbols", the vertical line symbolizes spirit. This spiritual force
may move either from Heaven to Earth or from Earth to Heaven, or even from
Heaven to Hell. The horizontal line symbolizes matter and movement from west
to east. It also describes movement in time, as a direction in which one is
traveling. This point is very critical, because the Freemason is committed
to taking America in the direction of the New World Order. Since the square
combines the vertical and the horizontal, it becomes a symbol of the
material, physical realm which is enmeshed with spirit and time. The passage
of time within an occultic spiritual context is what is in view here. In
this instance, the United States of America is the physical realm which is
moving in time toward the desired direction of the New World Order.
This square also contains one more piece of occultic meaning. In this
Goathead Pentagram, Mt. Vernon Square is the Eastern point. In occultic
doctrine, East is the direction from which a person receives spiritual
knowledge and guidance. This belief originated in the Pagan worship of the
Sun, and it is very much alive in Freemasonry today.
Now, let us look at the symbol contained in the lower right hand portion of
your Washington , D.C., city street map. This combination of symbols runs
South and East from the White House to the United States Capitol. These are
the symbols which clearly stamp Freemasonry upon this city, and which
unmistakably reveal that the brand of Luciferic worship which we see in the
Goathead Pentagram is the brand practiced by Freemasonry. Let us look at
these Freemasonry symbols.
The three most sacred symbols of Freemasonry are the Compass, the Square,
and the Rule or straight-edge. Look at the United States capitol, and you
will see that it is laid out in the form of a circle. This represents the
top of a professional compass of that era, which was circular. Pennsylvania
Avenue, running from the Capitol to the White House, represents one leg of
the compass. Maryland Avenue, running from the Capitol to Thomas Jefferson
Memorial, represents the second leg of the compass. In this instance, you
will have to lay out a ruler and draw a solid line from the Capitol to the
Jefferson Memorial to get the full effect, because Maryland does not run
straight through. It runs for a while and then disappears only to reappear
again further toward the Memorial. However, you can easily see that the
general direction runs precisely toward the Jefferson Memorial. This is the
compass of Freemasonry.
The Freemason's Square begins at Union Square, with Louisiana Avenue forming
one arm and Washington Avenue the other. Again, you will have to draw a line
down Louisiana Avenue and Washington to see the fully-formed square, because
Louisiana ends at Pennsylvania and Washington ends at Maryland. The critical
900 angle of the square is pictorially missing; however, once you draw the
natural continuation of Louisiana and Washington beyond their termination
points you will see the 900 square perfectly formed.
The Freemason's Rule, or straightedge, is clearly seen if you draw a
straight line south from the White House center to the base of the
Washington Monument and then straight East to the Capitol.
Thus, all three of the sacred instruments of Freemasonry are depicted in the
layout of these streets. As I stated earlier, the deliberate planning of
these Governmental Buildings so that they would be laid out so as to
represent these three sacred tools of Freemasonry, coupled with the
Luciferic Goathead Pentagram, clearly tell us that the brand of Luciferic
control and worship planned for this capitol city was Freemasonry. This
clearly shows that the New World Order for which Freemasonry has labored for
so many years is Luciferic, their vigorous protestations to the contrary
notwithstanding.
But there is more. Look again at the United States Capitol. At the extreme
Eastern side of the Capitol, you can see two cul-de-sacs which are
irregularly shaped. In fact, when you draw a bold black line carefully
around these cul-de-sacs, and continue the black line around the Capitol,
you get the appearance of a fat bunny's head, with the cul-de-sacs as his
ears. This is not accidental, either. The head and ears of the bunny attach
to the stick figures of the legs of the compass, which are meant to be the
legs of the bunny. Further, the Mason's Square form stick-figure arms of the
bunny. This representation is critically important, because ancient
Satanists drew Satan in just this stick figure way, including the fat bunny
head and his ears. This is another way of representing Satan.
And, just as the White House forms the southern point of the Goathead
Pentagram, so the Capitol forms the head of Satan. Shockingly, the meaning
is also the same. The Southern point of the Goathead Pentagram represented
the spirit of Satan reaching into the mind of the goathead, the bunny's head
represents the same meaning. In other words, both the Executive and the
Legislative Branches of Government are to be controlled by Satan.
Let us now quickly look at the Washington Monument, which lies directly West
of the Capitol. In fact, the Washington Monument lies on a straight line,
precisely 900 West of the Capitol. The Washington Monument is the most
important Presidential monument to the occultist, because it is an obelisk
set inside a circle. What, you are probably saying, is an obelisk? An
obelisk is a tall, four-sided stone pillar tapering toward a pyramidal top.
The obelisk is critically important to the occultist because they believe
that the spirit of the ancient Egyptian sun god, Ra, resided in the obelisk.
Thus, the obelisk represents the very presence of the sun god, whom the
Bible calls Satan!!
There are only three major obelisks in the world today, and two of them are
in the United States. According to Epperson in his book, "The New World
Order", the first major obelisk was constructed in St. Peter's square in
Rome, and is so placed that every Pope who addresses any crowd in the
square, must face the obelisk. A New Age author, Peter Tomkins, reports the
same facts in his book, "The Magic Of Obelisks", Harper and Row, New York,
1982, ISBN 0-06-014899-3.
For full details of this obelisk in St. Peter's Bascilica, please read
NEWS1034, "POPE JOHN PAUL II EMBRACES EVOLUTION!!"
The second obelisk was brought to America in 1881 from Alexandria, Egypt,
and was placed in Central Park in New York City.
The third obelisk is the Washington Monument, built to commemorate our First
President, George Washington. In light of the symbols which we have just
studied, which have been built into the layout of Government Center, I
believe the Washington Monument was constructed by Masons, according to
Masonic tradition, as a symbol that this country was controlled by
Freemasonry from the very beginning. And the Washington Monument has
Freemasonry stamped all over it:
* It is built from 36,000 separate blocks of granite. The number 36 is
derived from multiplying 3x12 and is an important number.
* Its capstone weighs exactly 3,300 pounds.
* The monument contains 188 specially donated Memorial stones, most of them
donated by individuals, societies, cities, and nations throughout the world.
But, Masonic lodges throughout the world contributed 35 of these Memorial
stones. These 35 blocks were intermingled with the other Memorial stones,
but the last several of them were placed at the 330 foot level.
* The total cost of the Washington Monument was reported to be $1,300,000,
showing again a most important Masonic number, 13.
* The Monument has 8 windows, and together they total 39 square feet in
size. The number 39 is very sacred because it is formed by multiplying 3x13.
And, also remember the importance of the Number 8 in Occultic Numerology,
for it carries the meaning of "New Beginnings". Combined with the meaning of
Number 13, as "Extreme Rebellion", you get the total message that this "New
Beginning" {New World Order} is to be carried out in "Extreme Rebellion".
There are several other, more complicated Masonic numbers concealed within
the construction of the Washington Monument, but you get the point: This
monument, constructed to honor the first Masonic President, was designed so
that both the White House and the Capitol face toward it so that the leaders
of both branches have to face the spirit of Lucifer thought to be residing
in it. This is typical occultism.
One final interesting note. We reported earlier in this article that the
Washington Monument obelisk was placed directly on a straight line,
precisely 900 West of the Capitol. Thus, the inhabitants of the Capitol
could face the obelisk daily. However, note that the Washington, D.C.,
obelisk does not lie in a straight line 900 South the White House. Why?
Because it was lined so that it lies in a straight line 900 from the House
of Understanding, the headquarters of Freemasonry!! In the mind of the
occultist, the true political Administrative power resides in this
Freemasonry headquarters, not in the White House. This is why President
Andrew Johnson considered himself to be the subordinate to Albert Pike, the
leader of North American Freemasonry!
Clearly, the power of leadership to drive this country toward the New World
Order, leading the rest of the world, lies in Freemasonry, not in the White
House or the Congress. These symbols, built into the physical layout of
Government Center in Washinton, D.C., represent the extent of that power.
Think of the many years these symbols have remained hidden from most
people's knowledge; think of the millions of tourists which have walked on
these streets during this time, without having any idea as to the existence
of these symbols, not to mention their meaning! And, if you have ever driven
a car in this area, you will now understand why these streets seem to be
laid out so wierd! Driving here can be a nightmare. Now you know why.
I dare anyone to email me to tell me that this perfect layout of occult
symbols is accidental or without significance. The odds against this
happening accidentally are so astronomical as to be absurd. Do you see
irrefutable evidences of a conspiracy here?
And, now the end is apparently in sight. The Third World War, envisioned by
Albert Pike in 1870 between Israel and her Arab neighbors, is apparently at
hand. Out of this war is to come Antichrist. Are you spiritually ready? Is
your family? Are you adequately protecting your loved ones? This is the
reason for this ministry, to enable you to first understand the peril facing
you, and then help you develop strategies to warn and protect your loved
ones. Once you have been thoroughly trained, you can also use your knowledge
as a means to open the door of discussion with an unsaved person. I have
been able to use it many times, and have seen people come to Jesus Christ as
a result. These perilous times are also a time when we can reach many souls
for Jesus Christ, making an eternal difference.
We hope you have been blessed by this ministry, which seeks to educate and
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"Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
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> MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
>
> Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
> acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
> are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the
> greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER
> discover that the symbol exists. In this article, we shall demonstrate
> positive proofs of conspiracy to achieve the ends of Freemasonry, i.e.,
> achieving the New World Order. And, these proofs exist right under your
> eyes, in Washington, D.C., the Capital district. Prepare for the
unexpected.
> Before you read this article, you might want to go to a map store to buy a
> street map of Washington, D.C.
> The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what
this
> New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you
> will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!!
>
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What a pile of blather.
Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you belief
evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded fools
this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
GWB
Dana Tweedy
"Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
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Barb, old buddy, exactly what are you trying to do here? If there is
indeed such a conspiracy, then there's nothing that we little individuals
can do about it. We are better off not knowing, as if we try to oppose such
a conspiracy, we would be swiftly and ruthlessly killed no doubt our family
would be wiped out as well.
Therefore by posting this, you are placing us in extreme danger, not only
ourselves, but our families as well! At Christmas time no less! The only
rational response would be to tell you to get lost, and not endanger us or
our loved ones.
On the other hand, if, as is most likely, this is simply some paranoid
rambling, then the only response it deserves is derision and a good chuckle.
So, why don't you take your looney ideas, and move them to some other
newsgroup, where someone might care to hear them?
DJT
Barbarossa
Gary Bohn <gary...@sasktel.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
vtnn8dq...@corp.supernews.com...
Thou shall not kill! How many USA presidents violated that commandment while
at the same time so called wishing "God bless America"?
They all did! Your last president, worshipper of evil, member of Skull and
Bones,
waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Where are the WMD?
I don't believe in magic, the freemasonry does, that's why your USA is
overloaded
with magic symbols !
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy
snipping
> > >
> >
> > What a pile of blather.
> > Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
belief
> > evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
fools
> > this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
>
>
> Thou shall not kill! How many USA presidents violated that commandment
while
> at the same time so called wishing "God bless America"?
A great number of national leaders have authorized military force. It's
hardly unique to the USA.
> They all did! Your last president, worshipper of evil, member of Skull and
> Bones,
> waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Where are the WMD?
I'm not a fan of "W", but it's hard to see him as a "worshipper of evil".
GWB may be a dork, but he's not a satanist. As for his waging war on Iraq
and Afghanistan, there was some provocation there. Remember Sept 11, 2001?
That kind of thing is difficult for an elected leader to ignore.
>
> I don't believe in magic, the freemasonry does, that's why your USA is
> overloaded
> with magic symbols !
Maybe you are seeing "magic symbols" where there are just patterns. It
takes some pretty far fetched mental gymnastics to make those "magic
symbols" out of E'fant's plans to make DC's streets defensible against
attack by mobs or invaders.
DJT
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy <twe...@cvn.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
brgmqa$365or$1...@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> news:3fdbd949$0$27231$ba62...@reader0.news.skynet.be...
> > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> >
> snip of plagiarized lunacy.
>
> Barb, old buddy, exactly what are you trying to do here? If there is
> indeed such a conspiracy, then there's nothing that we little individuals
> can do about it. We are better off not knowing, as if we try to oppose
such
> a conspiracy, we would be swiftly and ruthlessly killed no doubt our
family
> would be wiped out as well.
Who said there's nothing you can do about it?
> Therefore by posting this, you are placing us in extreme danger, not
only
> ourselves, but our families as well! At Christmas time no less! The only
> rational response would be to tell you to get lost, and not endanger us or
> our loved ones.
You would prefer not knowing this at Christmas? The birth of Jesus Christ?
> On the other hand, if, as is most likely, this is simply some paranoid
> rambling, then the only response it deserves is derision and a good
chuckle.
Audacity, Audacity that's the way it works.
> So, why don't you take your looney ideas, and move them to some other
> newsgroup, where someone might care to hear them?
They are not my looney ideas, your reply is looney.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Lane Lewis
"Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:3fdbd949$0$27231$ba62...@reader0.news.skynet.be...
>
> Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
> acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
Unless these symbols are evolving in the biological sense your ramblings are
a tad off topic.
Try
News:alt.christnet.rightwing.loonies
Lane
Barbarossa
>
> "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> news:3fdbe1e3$0$272$ba62...@reader5.news.skynet.be...
> snipping
>
> > > >
> > >
> > > What a pile of blather.
> > > Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
> belief
> > > evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
> fools
> > > this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> >
> >
> > Thou shall not kill! How many USA presidents violated that commandment
> while
> > at the same time so called wishing "God bless America"?
>
> A great number of national leaders have authorized military force. It's
> hardly unique to the USA.
I have never heard Chiraq, Schroeder, Aznar, Berlusconi or others refer to
"God bless - and then mentioning their countries name "
> > They all did! Your last president, worshipper of evil, member of Skull
and
> > Bones,
> > waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Where are the WMD?
>
> I'm not a fan of "W", but it's hard to see him as a "worshipper of evil".
> GWB may be a dork, but he's not a satanist. As for his waging war on Iraq
> and Afghanistan, there was some provocation there. Remember Sept 11,
2001?
> That kind of thing is difficult for an elected leader to ignore.
September 11 2001 was just a hoax! Osama Bin Laden and George Bush need
each other! Why do you think he is not captured? Because a living Osama Bin
Laden
is much more usefull for the fascist government of the USA. The USA can
capture
anyone it wants. If you believe that they cannot capture OBL, it is you who
simply
believes the lies of ABC, NBC and CNN. You either see it or you are blind.
> >
> > I don't believe in magic, the freemasonry does, that's why your USA is
> > overloaded
> > with magic symbols !
>
> Maybe you are seeing "magic symbols" where there are just patterns. It
> takes some pretty far fetched mental gymnastics to make those "magic
> symbols" out of E'fant's plans to make DC's streets defensible against
> attack by mobs or invaders.
Well, when I see a one dollar bill I clearly see occultism. You don't
because you
are blind.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy
>
> Dana Tweedy <twe...@cvn.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> brgmqa$365or$1...@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> > news:3fdbd949$0$27231$ba62...@reader0.news.skynet.be...
> > > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> > >
> > snip of plagiarized lunacy.
> >
> > Barb, old buddy, exactly what are you trying to do here? If there is
> > indeed such a conspiracy, then there's nothing that we little
individuals
> > can do about it. We are better off not knowing, as if we try to oppose
> such
> > a conspiracy, we would be swiftly and ruthlessly killed no doubt our
> family
> > would be wiped out as well.
>
> Who said there's nothing you can do about it?
You did, Barb old buddy. If that conspiracy is that massive, there's
nothing any one person can do. We're screwed.
>
> > Therefore by posting this, you are placing us in extreme danger, not
> only
> > ourselves, but our families as well! At Christmas time no less! The
only
> > rational response would be to tell you to get lost, and not endanger us
or
> > our loved ones.
>
> You would prefer not knowing this at Christmas? The birth of Jesus Christ?
I'd prefer not getting my family whacked. If what you say is true, then you
are placing everyone here in danger. If it's crap, which is what I believe,
you are just a ranting lunatic. Either way, it's off topic, and not
helpful.
>
> > On the other hand, if, as is most likely, this is simply some paranoid
> > rambling, then the only response it deserves is derision and a good
> chuckle.
>
> Audacity, Audacity that's the way it works.
How do you know? It's supposed to be a secret, right? If you can see it,
it's "Audacity", if you can't see it, it's a conspiracy. How do you know
one way or the other? Maybe it's just paranoia? Have you considered that
possibility?
>
> > So, why don't you take your looney ideas, and move them to some other
> > newsgroup, where someone might care to hear them?
>
> They are not my looney ideas, your reply is looney.
I know they aren't your looney ideas, you stole them from some other
looney's website. My reply is sensible, and all that your ravings deserve.
DJT
Thomas H. Faller
<big snip of moronic rant>
Oh, boy! An Anti-Christ! Do we get an Anti-Christmas?
June 25th?
What about three Anti-Wise Men? Or is that Anti-Clockwise Men?
Hang the anti-stockings, light the anti-yule log, bake
the anti-fruitcake and feed it to Barbarossa.
Tom Faller
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy <twe...@cvn.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
brgmqa$365or$1...@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
Have you actually bought a map of Washington DC and drew the lines?
I don't think so! Did you really study some occultism and the meaning of it
all?
Your illustrious founding fathers did not killl most of the native Americans
because Europe was an intolerant society. They did not embark on ships
like the Mayflower because of that! They came as freemasons to establish
a new satanist world order.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy
>
> Dana Tweedy <twe...@cvn.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> brgoir$32ilm$1...@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> > news:3fdbe1e3$0$272$ba62...@reader5.news.skynet.be...
> > snipping
> >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What a pile of blather.
> > > > Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
> > belief
> > > > evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
> > fools
> > > > this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thou shall not kill! How many USA presidents violated that commandment
> > while
> > > at the same time so called wishing "God bless America"?
> >
> > A great number of national leaders have authorized military force. It's
> > hardly unique to the USA.
>
> I have never heard Chiraq, Schroeder, Aznar, Berlusconi or others refer to
> "God bless - and then mentioning their countries name "
They're not American politicians. The American public eats up that "God
Bless" stuff. You can't get elected president without paying at least lip
service to God.
>
> > > They all did! Your last president, worshipper of evil, member of Skull
> and
> > > Bones,
> > > waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Where are the WMD?
> >
> > I'm not a fan of "W", but it's hard to see him as a "worshipper of
evil".
> > GWB may be a dork, but he's not a satanist. As for his waging war on
Iraq
> > and Afghanistan, there was some provocation there. Remember Sept 11,
> 2001?
> > That kind of thing is difficult for an elected leader to ignore.
>
> September 11 2001 was just a hoax!
Those collapsing buildings looked pretty real to me. Also, I'm a former
Volunteer Firefighter, Are you trying to tell me that over 300 firefighters
deaths were a hoax? 3000 dead bodies a hoax? I live just 70 miles from
where Flt 93 crashed. Another 15 minutes and it would have been over my
house.
> Osama Bin Laden and George Bush need
> each other! Why do you think he is not captured?
Because he's living where he's protected by thousands of supporters, has
many family members, and has millions of dollars to spend on bribes and
influence to keep away US agents. .
> Because a living Osama Bin
> Laden
> is much more usefull for the fascist government of the USA.
Or, maybe because he's an intelligent, popular, millionare, who has lots of
family and supporters willing to die for him. Possible, No?
> The USA can
> capture
> anyone it wants.
Really? Ever heard of DB Cooper? Saddam Hussain?
>If you believe that they cannot capture OBL, it is you who
> simply
> believes the lies of ABC, NBC and CNN. You either see it or you are blind.
Or perhaps just not a raving lunatic, like yourself. (Or maybe I prefer the
lies of CBS, or Fox News.... Nah, even I don't believe Fox News)
>
> > >
> > > I don't believe in magic, the freemasonry does, that's why your USA is
> > > overloaded
> > > with magic symbols !
> >
> > Maybe you are seeing "magic symbols" where there are just patterns. It
> > takes some pretty far fetched mental gymnastics to make those "magic
> > symbols" out of E'fant's plans to make DC's streets defensible against
> > attack by mobs or invaders.
>
> Well, when I see a one dollar bill I clearly see occultism. You don't
> because you
> are blind.
I'll be happy to accept all the dollar bills you don't want. If you want
to see the occult, you can see it anywhere you want. BTW, how did this go
from the street plan of DC to the dollar bill?
DJT
Barbarossa
Lane Lewis <lanej...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
iSRCb.71871$%h4.4...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
I don't think so, freemasonry also infiltrates schools ans schoolsystems.
The evolution
theory educated on schools is highly supported by Freemasons. They are
evil-worshippers.
It is just a tool to lure the people away from the Biblical approach.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Dana Tweedy
Barb you little lunatic you, I live 2 hours away from DC. I have been
there many times. You can draw whatever lines you want. If you want to
see occult symbols, you will see them. L'enfant's design for the city
affords many oppurtunities to make up whatever symbols you wish to see. I
can draw smiley faces, peace signs, or whatever.
>
> Your illustrious founding fathers did not killl most of the native
Americans
> because Europe was an intolerant society.
Well, my own personal 'founding fathers' didn't arrive until the 1880's,
when most of the eastern tribes had already been exterminated. The
original settlers killed the Natives because 1. They felt it was their "God
given right" to take the land, and 2. They carried with them diseases, which
they didn't realize (at first) were spread by contact. I'm not going to
defend the actions of the European settlers, as to do so is judging the past
on modern sensibilities.
> They did not embark on ships
> like the Mayflower because of that!
The Mayflower "pilgrims" were coming to practice their religious beliefs,
and to unfortunately deny religious freedom to anyone else. It was Penn,
and others who opened the place to those seeking religous freedom. Also the
economic oppurtunites afforded in the new world were a great draw.
>They came as freemasons to establish
> a new satanist world order.
Well, that's one way of looking at things. A completely insane way, but
definately one way. If they were establishing a "santist world order" ,why
were accused witches hanged in Salem?
The settlers came for the economic oppurtunities, and the ability to
worship as they wished. Some came here because they had no choice, either
enslaved or indentured servants.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Barbarossa
>
>
Barbarossa
Yep; they even believe that when George Bush or CNN or ABC or NBC tells
them that OBL planned and performed the attacks on New York and the Pentagon
that they believe them. They cannot comprehend the evil of Bush, Cheney and
others. Do I really need to say that it was all about oil in Afghanistan and
Iraq?
> > > > They all did! Your last president, worshipper of evil, member of
Skull
> > and
> > > > Bones,
> > > > waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Where are the WMD?
> > >
> > > I'm not a fan of "W", but it's hard to see him as a "worshipper of
> evil".
> > > GWB may be a dork, but he's not a satanist. As for his waging war on
> Iraq
> > > and Afghanistan, there was some provocation there. Remember Sept 11,
> > 2001?
> > > That kind of thing is difficult for an elected leader to ignore.
> >
> > September 11 2001 was just a hoax!
>
> Those collapsing buildings looked pretty real to me. Also, I'm a former
> Volunteer Firefighter, Are you trying to tell me that over 300
firefighters
> deaths were a hoax? 3000 dead bodies a hoax? I live just 70 miles from
> where Flt 93 crashed. Another 15 minutes and it would have been over my
> house.
The problem is that you will not in any case believe how evil George Bush
is.
He and OBL planned the attack on New York! George Bush Jr member of Skull
and Bone doesn't give a damn about American lives!
> > Osama Bin Laden and George Bush need
> > each other! Why do you think he is not captured?
>
> Because he's living where he's protected by thousands of supporters, has
> many family members, and has millions of dollars to spend on bribes and
> influence to keep away US agents. .
If you really believe this then you are blind! The USA government could
easily
assaninate Salvador Allende. It could easily install all kinds of puppet
governments
around this globe and you really believe that they cannot catch OBL or
Saddam?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Lane Lewis
You might be stretching the meaning of "on topic" a bit.
Maybe this group
News:alt.conspiracy.paranoid
or
News:alt.freemasonry
Lane
Deaddog
"Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> erupted in message
news:3fdbd949$0$27231$ba62...@reader0.news.skynet.be...:
<This seal means: Insanitized for your protection>
Look.
Dude.
I know you're well-meaning and all, but here's the bottom line:
While I certainly do not speak for everyone, you can nonetheless infer from
the fact that both in your life here and I'm sure in your non-net life that
you are widely regarded as insane that you are in the minority. I will even
grant you that you may be in an 'initiated' minority, although what you call
'initiated' I might call 'rabid.'
Even if that is the case, I would assert that if the country and / or the
world have for the past few centuries been run by a coven of screaming
witches who urinate on the Bible in their spare time and laugh at how we are
clueless about their diabolical, secret plans ... they're doing a damn good
job. Heck, if tomorrow they came out from behind their secret trappings and
ripped off their masks and used their tentacles to suck Larry King's brain
out, I'd still probably vote for them. I might even be more likely to vote
for them.
The evidence speaks for itself. Technological progress. Religious
tolerance. Eurodisney. A general feeling of having somehow avoided nuclear
annihilation (crossing fingers), overt fascism (crossing fingers), and
crushing poverty (crossing fingers). Yes, the coven could do a bit better:
I would generally like to see less of the gas chambers, machetes making
human hamburger, and fly feasts on distended bellies sorts of things. But,
truly, those are by and large the leftovers of history (crossing fingers).
Whether you are crushed by Genghis Khan, spitted by Vlad the Impaler,
twitching in a smallpox laden blanket given to you by Cortez, or gassed by
Hitler, you're just as painfully, awfully dead. I would like to believe,
based on no more than childlike faith, that we have less of that sort of
horror these days, not more (at least on a per capita or per diem basis, if
nothing else).
If I'm a mindless drone in the service of the coven, then I say "Hooray for
the coven!" Come out from behind your masks of evil, and let me shake your
hand. I understand that in your march to progress you have had to break a
few eggs to make the omelette, but I salute the sort of planning that spans
centuries and organizes global populations. I was worried that it was all a
roiling mess with no direction, and that we were just as likely to lurch
into a Malthusian nightmare of dire proportions when the major sources of
oil run out in about 2050 as to realize our destiny of making a leap from
this fragile and lonely rock. Now I know better. With you at the helm, oh
evil ones, we can assuredly reach the stars (Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu
R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn).
So, hopefully, with this cheerful message, Barbarossa, you will realize the
futility of your task and go elsewhere?
Non-woof
Roadrunner
"Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
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There is NO excuse for being ignorant! Look around, there is quite a bit
that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the government
supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
Lenny Flank
"Government-supported libraries" . . . . . ???????????????????????
'Fess up, Mouth Runner ----- it's all a big conspiracy and you think the
Jews are behind it all, right?
===============================================
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Bennett Standeven
Bennett Standeven
> Beginning from top left to top middle:
>
> 1. Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, and Scott Circle in the middle, form the top
> three points of the Devil's Goathead of Mendes, one of the most important
> types of the Five-pointed Devil's Pentagram.
>
> 2. Washington Circle forms the extreme left-hand point of the Goathead.
>
> 3. Mt. Vernon Square forms the extreme right-hand point of the Goathead.
>
> 4. The White House forms the fifth and bottom point of the Goathead.
I guess L'Enfant didn't know the difference between 5 and 6.
[...]
> Number 16 literally means "felicity", which, according to my Webster's
> Dictionary, means blissful happiness or anything which will produce such a
> state. Certainly, blissful happiness is the stated goal of any Satanic
> system. A corollary meaning of 16 is love.
>
SATAN IS LOVE.
Dick C
snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
>
> "Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
>> What a pile of blather.
>> Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
belief
>> evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
fools
>> this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
>
> There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
Look around, there is quite a bit
> that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
government
> supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
libraries, do you?
--
Dick #1349
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951).
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email: dic...@localnet.com
Roadrunner
"Lenny Flank" <lflank...@ij.net> wrote in message
news:3fdca...@corp.newsgroups.com...
YOU say that, I NEVER did! Please return to you own kind, Herr Nazi
Doctrine Lover! If you can not be polite I will not either!
Roadrunner
"Dick C" <dic...@localnet.boo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9451811CBB2C...@216.168.3.50...
> Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
>
> snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
>
> >
> > "Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> >> What a pile of blather.
> >> Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
> belief
> >> evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
> fools
> >> this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> >
> > There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
>
> And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
>
> Look around, there is quite a bit
> > that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
> government
> > supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
>
> Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
> libraries, do you?
Wander in the dark! You may wake up one day, and then it will be too late!
Dick C
>
> "Dick C" <dic...@localnet.boo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9451811CBB2C...@216.168.3.50...
>> Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
>>
>> snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
>>
>> >
>> > "Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
>> >> What a pile of blather. Apparently , in your world physics doesn't
>> >> work any better than you
>> belief
>> >> evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
>> fools
>> >> this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
>> >
>> > There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
>>
>> And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
>>
>> Look around, there is quite a bit
>> > that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
>> government
>> > supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
>>
>> Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
>> libraries, do you?
>
> Wander in the dark! You may wake up one day, and then it will be too
> late!
This from the man who broke his flashlight and threw away the batteries.
Charles C.
That's why we keep drilling you with facts, so you can't claim
ignorance for your particular brand of stupidity.
>Look around, there is quite a bit
>that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the government
>supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
Your idea of looking around is browsing the web for kook sites. You
wouldn't know the inside of a library if you saw one on TV.
You ignore any evidence that doesn't support your "Moses meets Hubbard
while on an acid trip" theology. You can't be reasoned with and you
can't carry a normal conversation. You only come here to preach your
views (and complain when people can't understand your incomplete
thoughts) and you don't give a rats ass whether you are right or wrong
and I honestly believe that you are too ignorant to know the
difference.
You claim that you are just trying to offer another viewpoint but you
are a liar because that viewpoint was proven wrong over 100 years ago
and reinforced everyday since. You want us to throw out all of the
accumulated knowledge that we have gained for the past 150 years
because you happen to believe a stupid website! If that isn't insane I
don't know what is.
Why aren't you wearing your aluminum hat in that picture of you on
your web page?
Charles "talking to a wall" Casey
Remove the underscores to contact me.
Creationism: Sci-Fi for the soul
Gary Bohn
Barbarossa speaks -
"Therefore, the symbols which have been interwoven into the design of
Governmental Center, communicate tremendous power to the occultist while
hiding the meaning from anyone who is not an occultist. And, these symbols
take on a life of their own, in the mind of the occultist, possessing great
inherent power to accomplish the plans of the occultist."
If you believe there is a group of people out that are able to take over the
world by mumbling a few nonsense words and stroking some talisman, then
you're the one that's being ignorant. I think you're trying to scare the
wrong people at this newsgroup, I doubt that any one of them are swayed by
your fairytale theatre. Please go stick your head into some real science
books and don't come up for air until you're ready for the real world
>
>
> "Government-supported libraries" . . . . . ???????????????????????
>
>
> 'Fess up, Mouth Runner ----- it's all a big conspiracy and you think the
> Jews are behind it all, right?
>
>
Of course he thinks the Jews are behind it, he's an excellent, I could say
_Prime_ example of just how close to apes humans are. He's afraid that the
other group of chimps are going to take all his bananas away. Or maybe he
doesn't have any frontal lobes? I know nothing of anatomy, anyone out there
give me a hand?
>
>
>
> ===============================================
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John Wilkins
> Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
>
> >
> > "Dick C" <dic...@localnet.boo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9451811CBB2C...@216.168.3.50...
> >> Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
> >>
> >> snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> >> >> What a pile of blather. Apparently , in your world physics doesn't
> >> >> work any better than you
> >> belief
> >> >> evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
> >> fools
> >> >> this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> >> >
> >> > There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
> >>
> >> And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
> >>
> >> Look around, there is quite a bit
> >> > that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
> >> government
> >> > supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
> >>
> >> Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
> >> libraries, do you?
> >
> > Wander in the dark! You may wake up one day, and then it will be too
> > late!
>
> This from the man who broke his flashlight and threw away the batteries.
>
Rev. Strangelove, or, How I learned to stop worrying and love the
dark...
--
John Wilkins
DARK IN HERE, ISN'T IT?
wilkins.id.au
Lenny Flank
. . . said the petulant little child as he stamped his foot in anger.
Lenny Flank
> "Dick C" <dic...@localnet.boo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9451811CBB2C...@216.168.3.50...
>
>>Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
>>
>>snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
>>
>>
>>>"Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>What a pile of blather.
>>>>Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
>>
>>belief
>>
>>>>evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
>>
>>fools
>>
>>>>this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
>>>
>>>There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
>>
>>And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
>>
>> Look around, there is quite a bit
>>
>>>that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
>>
>>government
>>
>>>supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
>>
>>Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
>>libraries, do you?
>
>
> Wander in the dark! You may wake up one day, and then it will be too late!
>
>
"Hear me, O Israel !!!!!"
Do you think you're a fucking PROPHET now, Mouth Runner ?
Barbarossa
Roadrunner <peg...@privat.utfors.se> schreef in berichtnieuws
lc0Db.42014$dP1.1...@newsc.telia.net...
Don't even try Roadrunner! Some people on this planet are unbelievably
ignorant. They don't accept the facts whether they are happening under
their noses or what. Everything can be watched on a street map of Washington
DC!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa
>
> "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> news:3fdbe635$0$2854$ba62...@reader1.news.skynet.be...
> >
> > Dana Tweedy <twe...@cvn.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> > brgmqa$365or$1...@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> > > news:3fdbd949$0$27231$ba62...@reader0.news.skynet.be...
> > > > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> > > >
> > > snip of plagiarized lunacy.
> > >
> > > Barb, old buddy, exactly what are you trying to do here? If there is
> > > indeed such a conspiracy, then there's nothing that we little
> individuals
> > > can do about it. We are better off not knowing, as if we try to
oppose
> > such
> > > a conspiracy, we would be swiftly and ruthlessly killed no doubt our
> > family
> > > would be wiped out as well.
> >
> > Who said there's nothing you can do about it?
>
> You did, Barb old buddy. If that conspiracy is that massive, there's
> nothing any one person can do. We're screwed.
Although the conspiracy is indeed huge it is not too late to fight it. The
only thing
required is knowledge and some bravery.
> > > Therefore by posting this, you are placing us in extreme danger,
not
> > only
> > > ourselves, but our families as well! At Christmas time no less! The
> only
> > > rational response would be to tell you to get lost, and not endanger
us
> or
> > > our loved ones.
> >
> > You would prefer not knowing this at Christmas? The birth of Jesus
Christ?
>
> I'd prefer not getting my family whacked. If what you say is true, then
you
> are placing everyone here in danger. If it's crap, which is what I
believe,
> you are just a ranting lunatic. Either way, it's off topic, and not
> helpful.
Proof that all things mentioned in the original article is false instead of
just
stating it. Is that the way scientists work nowadays when a good proven
new theory comes along?
> > > On the other hand, if, as is most likely, this is simply some paranoid
> > > rambling, then the only response it deserves is derision and a good
> > chuckle.
> >
> > Audacity, Audacity that's the way it works.
>
> How do you know? It's supposed to be a secret, right? If you can see
it,
> it's "Audacity", if you can't see it, it's a conspiracy. How do you know
> one way or the other? Maybe it's just paranoia? Have you considered that
> possibility?
I have no paranoid mind. The reason that the conspiracy leaks comes from
members
who leave the Freemasonry and by information gotten from the books of
freemasons
who died in the past. Some widow did not know what to do with the
information.
> > > So, why don't you take your looney ideas, and move them to some other
> > > newsgroup, where someone might care to hear them?
> >
> > They are not my looney ideas, your reply is looney.
>
> I know they aren't your looney ideas, you stole them from some other
> looney's website. My reply is sensible, and all that your ravings
deserve.
I have read very little sensible things in your replies. No proof at all
that this design
of Washington DC and the rest of the occultist influences on your
government
is not true. I suggest you start by reading a good book for once in your
life, try
Noam Chomsky for a change and learn about the evil that exists in Washington
DC.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa
Deaddog <elling...@yahoo.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
brhh3h$gl0$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
Why should I? The only thing Freemasonry with their fetish for personal
wealth
and their worshipping of evil will ultimately lead to is the destruction of
our
world.
But your irresponsible behaviour and thoughts are noted!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Roadrunner
> Roadrunner wrote:
>
> > "Dick C" <dic...@localnet.boo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9451811CBB2C...@216.168.3.50...
> >
> >>Roadrunner wrote in talk.origins
> >>
> >>snip blather about occult and magic symbols.
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>What a pile of blather.
> >>>>Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you
> >>
> >>belief
> >>
> >>>>evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded
> >>
> >>fools
> >>
> >>>>this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> >>>
> >>>There is NO excuse for being ignorant!
> >>
> >>And yet, you insist ignorance is better than knowledge.
> >>
> >> Look around, there is quite a bit
> >>
> >>>that supports this. But, off course if your only source is the
> >>
> >>government
> >>
> >>>supported libraries! Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
> >>
> >>Ha, what a gullible fool you are. You have no idea what is in our
> >>libraries, do you?
> >
> >
> > Wander in the dark! You may wake up one day, and then it will be too
late!
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Hear me, O Israel !!!!!"
>
>
> Do you think you're a fucking PROPHET now, Mouth Runner ?
YOU say I AM! Cheers, Herr Nazi Doctrine lover.
stew dean
> MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
>
> acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
> are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it.
This is, of course, complete unfounded rubbish.
If this is a loki point post it's too close to the rubbish some believe.
Stew Dean
JPG
wrote:
>MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
>
Snip paranoid rant.
Complete and utter bollocks.
JPG
(former Mason)
harvest dancer
>
So near and yet so far... don't you know that the Masons, the New
World Order, and the Luciferians are competing with each other for
dominance?
Jason
Chris Krolczyk
(snip)
And they said that cut-n-paste was a dead art form:
> Christian site for those who seek information about or related to a wide
> variety of subjects including Bible Evangelical religion Billy Graham Bob
> Jones Christ Church James Dobson evangel faith God Hour of Power Jack Van
> Impe Jesus Jimmy Swaggert Kenneth Copeland Lutheran Baptist Methodist
> Ministry New Testament Old Testament Pentecostal prophecy protestant rapture
> religion Robert Schuller Roman Catholic spiritual The 700 Club Oral Roberts
> Baker tribulation
Well, I guess we know where BarbaLoony is getting his information from.
*Shudder*
-Chris Krolczyk
Chris Krolczyk
> "Gary Bohn" <gary...@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> news:vtnn8dq...@corp.supernews.com...
> > What a pile of blather.
> > Apparently , in your world physics doesn't work any better than you belief
> > evolution does. A belief in magic of any kind is for the weak minded fools
> > this type of tripe is aimed at. Please, go get a life!
> There is NO excuse for being ignorant! Look around, there is quite a bit
> that supports this.
Funny you should say that...
> But, off course if your only source is the government
> supported libraries!
Let me get this straight - if I happen to find, say, a book
on Freemasonry or the origin of the eye/pyramid motif that
actually *confirms* BarbaLoony's theories (which is highly
doubtful, but not impossible), that means the source material
is *wrong*, correct? You seem to be implying as much.
After all, books by Pat Robertson and some of the other
televangelist nutters listed at the end of BarbaLoony's
scanned rant are available in "government supported"
(which I take to mean both state-funded university and
tax-funded municipal) libraries, so that *must* mean
that he's wrong.
> Then, yes....then I understand your attitude.
I doubt you understand much of anything, if your posts
are any indication.
-Chris Krolczyk
John Wilkins
> "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote:
> > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> >
> > Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
> > acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
> > are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it.
>
> This is, of course, complete unfounded rubbish.
Also known as the doctrine of signatures, with a dash of the
macrocosm/microcosm distinction. Or, as logicians like to call it, the
fallacy of affirming the consequent.
>
> If this is a loki point post it's too close to the rubbish some believe.
>
> Stew Dean
Chris Krolczyk
> Lane Lewis <lanej...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> iSRCb.71871$%h4.4...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > Unless these symbols are evolving in the biological sense your ramblings
> are
> > a tad off topic.
>
> I don't think so, freemasonry also infiltrates schools ans schoolsystems.
> The evolution
> theory educated on schools is highly supported by Freemasons. They are
> evil-worshippers.
> It is just a tool to lure the people away from the Biblical approach.
Argument from paranoid conspiracy-mongering.
How utterly fucking precious.
-Chris Krolczyk
Earle Jones
be...@pop.networkusa.net (Bennett Standeven) wrote:
*
Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
A: Because OCT 31 = DEC 25
earle
*
John Wilkins
It equals HEX 19 too, so there are some 19 yo virgins about to be
sacrificed
--
John Virgin Sacrifices Done Free Wilkins
Cubist
> Earle Jones <earle...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <24c3076b.03121...@posting.google.com>,
> > be...@pop.networkusa.net (Bennett Standeven) wrote:
> >
> > > "Thomas H. Faller" <fal...@sgi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<3FDBEBB6...@sgi.com>...
> > > >
> > > > Oh, boy! An Anti-Christ! Do we get an Anti-Christmas?
> > > > June 25th?
> > > > What about three Anti-Wise Men? Or is that Anti-Clockwise Men?
> > > > Hang the anti-stockings, light the anti-yule log, bake
> > > > the anti-fruitcake and feed it to Barbarossa.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Faller
> >
> > *
> > Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
> >
> > A: Because OCT 31 = DEC 25
> >
> > earle
> > *
>
> It equals HEX 19 too, so there are some 19 yo virgins about to be
> sacrificed
to time,because those dates also equate to NOV 27.
Barbarossa
Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
Take a look at the map of Washington DC, read a little, for example Isis
Unveiled
and some parts of The Secret Doctrine by HP Blavatsky. All the evil occult
symbols are there in Washington DC. No one can deny it. Pay a little
attention to
some books by Noam Chomsky, read some real history about how the racist
Freemasonry conquered the land to form the USA, killing numerous native
people.
And you want to believe that is was in a Christian tradition? Nope, evil has
resided
in the White House and it is still there. I urge you sincerely to do some
reality-checking
now and then. GW Bush is a satanist, member of Skull and Bones, just like
his father
was. His granddad was a great supporter of Hitler and funded the Third
Reich.
Take a look again at your one dollar bill. The all seeing eye is the eye of
Horus, it's
an occultist paganist symbol very contrair to the Judean-Christian
tradition. Take a
look at the double headed eagle, which is actually a phoenix. Again a pagan
occult
symbol of evil which has nothing to do with the Judean Christian tradition.
It is all there
If you want to debate this then debate this. Deliver the evidence that all
those symbols
are actually belonging to the Judean Christian tradition.
I rest my case, you have delivered nothing.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
It's like the OT prophet Ezekiel who teaches "People have eyes, yet they see
nothing"
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa
JPG <m...@privacy.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
3snrtvkkcqg1mmu0p...@4ax.com...
Well make your case, deliver all the evidence. In case you cannot provide
such your
contribution in this threas is utterly silly and pathetic.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
JPG
wrote:
>
>JPG <m...@privacy.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
>3snrtvkkcqg1mmu0p...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:25:21 +0000 (UTC), "Barbarossa"
><fa07...@skynet.be>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
>> >
>>
>> Snip paranoid rant.
>>
>> Complete and utter bollocks.
>
>Well make your case, deliver all the evidence. In case you cannot provide
>such your
>contribution in this threas is utterly silly and pathetic.
And your diatribe isn't?
I reply in similar vein to the original assertion. You really ought to get out
more and stop seeing things that aren't there.
I have tried on a couple of occasions in earlier threads to argue that
freemasonry is nothing more than a men's social club started by a few squires
and merchants in a London pub in the late 18c. They act out a few morality
plays and then have a meal. There is no conspiracy, no higher orders of masonry
cranking the handles of power, no aliens or reptiles in human form, no
illuminati, no Santa Claus, no god(s). Get over it.
JPG
>
>Kind Regards,
>Barbarossa
>
Chris Krolczyk
> Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
> Take a look at the map of Washington DC, read a little, for example Isis
> Unveiled and some parts of The Secret Doctrine by HP Blavatsky. All the evil > occult symbols are there in Washington DC. No one can deny it. Pay a little
> attention to
> some books by Noam Chomsky, read some real history about how the racist
> Freemasonry conquered the land to form the USA, killing numerous native
> people.
Amazing.
In your quest to put something together that resembles a coherent (!)
conspiracy theory, you're referencing fundamentalist evangelists,
Blavatsky *and* Chomsky. This must be a first.
> And you want to believe that is was in a Christian tradition? Nope, evil has
> resided in the White House and it is still there.
What are you blathering about?
*You're* the one who's assuming something about a "Christian
tradition", not me. Your assumptions are not, contrary to the
many people who apparently live in your head, everyone else's.
> I urge you sincerely to do some
> reality-checking
> now and then. GW Bush is a satanist, member of Skull and Bones, just like
> his father
> was.
Skull and Bones is merely a silly group of rich Yalies who were
lampooned quite accurately in _Doonesbury_ a decade ago. Assuming
that they're anything else is only an indication that you're a
very silly individual - and making the claim that they're some
sort of all-powerful Satanist cabal (especially considering
Dubya's public statements concerning his religious beliefs!)
only makes you look like a *very*, very silly one.
> His granddad was a great supporter of Hitler and funded the Third
> Reich.
Prescott Bush did some slimy things concerning economic support
of the Nazis. So did JFK's father Joe. Your point?
> Take a look again at your one dollar bill. The all seeing eye is the eye of
> Horus, it's
> an occultist paganist symbol very contrair to the Judean-Christian
> tradition.
Ever read the First Amendment to the United States Constitution,
BarbaLoony? It would seem to take some wind of your sails concerning
the importance of the "Judean-Christian tradition" to any arguments
about what the Federal Government does.
> Take a
> look at the double headed eagle, which is actually a phoenix.
I don't recall phoenixes having double heads. *Or* eagles.
> Again a pagan occult symbol of evil which has nothing to do with the Judean
> Christian tradition.
Irrelevant to the stated powers of the Federal Government as
mentioned in the First Amendment. Next?
> It is all there
>
> If you want to debate this then debate this. Deliver the evidence that all
> those symbols
> are actually belonging to the Judean Christian tradition.
More of the same irrelevancy. Next?
> I rest my case, you have delivered nothing.
Which is an improvement on the steaming pile you've been
working on.
-Chris Krolczyk
Lenny Flank
Are you comparing yourself to Christ, now, Mouth Runner . . . . .?
Are you King of the Jews, too, Mouth Runner?
>Cheers, Herr Nazi Doctrine lover.
>
. . . said the petulant little child as he once again stamped his foot
in anger.
Lenny Flank
Uh, I've met Noam Chomsky. I've talked with Noam Chomsky. In fact, I
was one of a small group who signed Noam Chomsky to membership in the
IWW a few years back.
You, sir, are no Noam Chomsky.
Barbarossa
Lenny Flank <lflank...@ij.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
3fdf9...@corp.newsgroups.com...
So, then neither are you I am afraid, there cannot be two Noam Chomskys
right?
I cannot remember BTW that I have ever said that I was Noam Chomsky. So
what is your point exactly.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa
Instead of telling others to stop seeing things that are not there you
better start
looking around seriously to see what is actually there. I have this strange
feeling
that you confuse the International Freemasonry with the local rotaryclub.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
stew dean
> stew dean <ste...@webslave.dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote:
> > > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> > >
> > > Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
> > > acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s)
> > > are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it.
> >
> > This is, of course, complete unfounded rubbish.
>
> Also known as the doctrine of signatures, with a dash of the
> macrocosm/microcosm distinction. Or, as logicians like to call it, the
> fallacy of affirming the consequent.
Obscure. Here's an internet translation (meaning I had to do some
research to decode the message). Still doesnt make any sense.
"Also known as [a belief in herbal healing] with a dash of
local/global distinction."
Urm - think doctrine of signatures has another meaning in general use.
I'll go back to that.
'The fallacy of affirming the consequent' in easier to understand
terms means..
"If it's raining then the streets are wet.
The streets are wet.
Therefore, it's raining"
Or x leads to y then if you have y then it must have been x.
In the above case the streets may be wet due to any number of reasons
other than y.
Okay back to the doctrine of signatures. It's also known as the
'Doctorine of Correspondences'. This appears to be pseudoscience
favoured by the esoteric related to global beliefs in how plants and
animals are related. It appears to be on the same level as astrology
and in some cases related.
What does the esoteric belief have to do with the logical fallacy?
Stew Dean
Barbarossa
Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
> "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<3fded5e9$0$287$ba62...@reader5.news.skynet.be>...
>
> > Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> > c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
> > Take a look at the map of Washington DC, read a little, for example Isis
> > Unveiled and some parts of The Secret Doctrine by HP Blavatsky. All the
evil > occult symbols are there in Washington DC. No one can deny it. Pay a
little
> > attention to
> > some books by Noam Chomsky, read some real history about how the racist
> > Freemasonry conquered the land to form the USA, killing numerous native
> > people.
>
> Amazing.
>
> In your quest to put something together that resembles a coherent (!)
> conspiracy theory, you're referencing fundamentalist evangelists,
> Blavatsky *and* Chomsky. This must be a first.
To become aware of facts you hardly can trust one source of information.
To become aware of facts and events you better check more sources.
That is what I have done. That is what you obviously refuse. So, stay
ignorant if that is what you like.
> > And you want to believe that is was in a Christian tradition? Nope, evil
has
> > resided in the White House and it is still there.
>
> What are you blathering about?
Point demonstrating that "good ol" founding fathers did not come to the "new
continent", because they wanted to create something like in the puritain
age.
Their plan and project was the New World Order based on occultism, paganism,
satanism and evil. It should be clear now why there is a reference like the
"Wild
West". When you assume that all religions are equal to Christianity, you are
the
antichrist.
> *You're* the one who's assuming something about a "Christian
> tradition", not me. Your assumptions are not, contrary to the
> many people who apparently live in your head, everyone else's.
That's my point, the USA's national and international policy has hardly
been Judea Christian. Remember that "Thou shalled not kill" thing?
To repeat Chomsky phrase: "if the Nuremberg standards would be
imposed on all USA leaders they would deserve the death penalty as
much as Goring, Bohrman and others of the nazis in the Nuremberg
trials". That part of the USA constitution that wants all religions to be
equal is nothing more than a cover up for satanism.
> > I urge you sincerely to do some
> > reality-checking
> > now and then. GW Bush is a satanist, member of Skull and Bones, just
like
> > his father
> > was.
>
> Skull and Bones is merely a silly group of rich Yalies who were
> lampooned quite accurately in _Doonesbury_ a decade ago. Assuming
> that they're anything else is only an indication that you're a
> very silly individual - and making the claim that they're some
> sort of all-powerful Satanist cabal (especially considering
> Dubya's public statements concerning his religious beliefs!)
> only makes you look like a *very*, very silly one.
And tell me how anything Bush GW says can be trusted? Where are the
WMD in Iraq for example? The Taliban had to be removed from power
because of their alleged support to OBL right? Nothing of that kind. The
Taliban had to be removed because they wanted too much money for an
oilpipeling to the west. The puppet-regime of Karzai is much more friendly
to the USA. Oil, that's why Saddam needed to be removed as well. Bush GW
needs OBL to stay in power. Just like Sharon and Afarat need each other
to stay in power. This so called war on terrorism is nothing but a planned
scheme by dark forces on this planet. Freemasonry combined with many
elements from the secret muslim brotherhoods.
The entire story Powell did in the UN security council was nothing but
a hoax, a list of lies fabricated by the USA government.
If you really believe that Skull and Bones is just a silly studentgame then
it is you who needs reality checks again. It is satanism to the bones.
> > His granddad was a great supporter of Hitler and funded the Third
> > Reich.
>
> Prescott Bush did some slimy things concerning economic support
> of the Nazis. So did JFK's father Joe. Your point?
So when one does it it's okay that more do it? What a reasoning.
Gee, I am in Belgium, ever heard of this Dutroux guy kidnapping
young girls, abusing them, torturing them and killing them? Are you
saying that you would perfectly understand if I followed his footsteps?
> > Take a look again at your one dollar bill. The all seeing eye is the eye
of
> > Horus, it's
> > an occultist paganist symbol very contrair to the Judean-Christian
> > tradition.
>
> Ever read the First Amendment to the United States Constitution,
> BarbaLoony? It would seem to take some wind of your sails concerning
> the importance of the "Judean-Christian tradition" to any arguments
> about what the Federal Government does.
See my remarks about the need for a religion-free civillization in order to
work out their evil One World Order plan above.
> > Take a
> > look at the double headed eagle, which is actually a phoenix.
>
> I don't recall phoenixes having double heads. *Or* eagles.
The double headed Eagle on your one dollar bill isn't an eagle. It's the
Egyptian phoenix. When a phoenix dies the new one will be born out of
the chest of the older one thus creating a symbol with two heads.
> > Again a pagan occult symbol of evil which has nothing to do with the
Judean
> > Christian tradition.
>
> Irrelevant to the stated powers of the Federal Government as
> mentioned in the First Amendment. Next?
See above.
> > It is all there
> >
> > If you want to debate this then debate this. Deliver the evidence that
all
> > those symbols
> > are actually belonging to the Judean Christian tradition.
>
> More of the same irrelevancy. Next?
>
> > I rest my case, you have delivered nothing.
>
> Which is an improvement on the steaming pile you've been
> working on.
While you still have delivered nothing substantial.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
harvest dancer
So near and yet so far ... don't you know that the Masons, the New
World Order, and the Luciferians are against each other in their
competition to take over the world? Yes, more than one faction.
Jason
Chris Krolczyk
> Lenny Flank <lflank...@ij.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> > Uh, I've met Noam Chomsky. I've talked with Noam Chomsky. In fact, I
> > was one of a small group who signed Noam Chomsky to membership in the
> > IWW a few years back.
> >
> > You, sir, are no Noam Chomsky.
>
> So, then neither are you I am afraid, there cannot be two Noam Chomskys
> right?
That'd be correct, BarbaLoony. Cloning hasn't advanced that far, yet.
> I cannot remember BTW that I have ever said that I was Noam Chomsky. So
> what is your point exactly.
That your, er, "analysis" is rather lacking in comparison to Chomsky's.
I realize that English isn't your primary language, but even *you're*
not that illiterate in it.
-Chris Krolczyk
Chris Krolczyk
"Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<3fe02cc9$0$2812$ba62...@reader1.news.skynet.be>...
> Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
> > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote in message
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> >
> > > Chris Krolczyk <chrisk...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> > > c743abb.03121...@posting.google.com...
> > > Take a look at the map of Washington DC, read a little, for example Isis
> > > Unveiled and some parts of The Secret Doctrine by HP Blavatsky. All the
> evil > occult symbols are there in Washington DC. No one can deny it. Pay a
> little
> > > attention to
> > > some books by Noam Chomsky, read some real history about how the racist
> > > Freemasonry conquered the land to form the USA, killing numerous native
> > > people.
> >
> > Amazing.
> >
> > In your quest to put something together that resembles a coherent (!)
> > conspiracy theory, you're referencing fundamentalist evangelists,
> > Blavatsky *and* Chomsky. This must be a first.
>
> To become aware of facts you hardly can trust one source of information.
> To become aware of facts and events you better check more sources.
> That is what I have done. That is what you obviously refuse. So, stay
> ignorant if that is what you like.
Uh huh. So if somebody were to write a book positing the theory that
Confederate Space Aliens were responsible for Lincoln's assasination
and not John Wilkes Booth and didn't include *any* proof for the
allegation, that theory has to be given equal weight with all of the
history texts that say otherwise, right?
> > > And you want to believe that is was in a Christian tradition? Nope, evil
> has
> > > resided in the White House and it is still there.
> >
> > What are you blathering about?
>
> Point demonstrating that "good ol" founding fathers did not come to the "new
> continent", because they wanted to create something like in the puritain
> age.
So what? That wasn't their intent. As a matter of fact, most of them
were inspired by their *loathing* of religious conflict and infighting,
and the Puritans were completely symptomatic of it.
And what's with you supporting the Puritans, anyway? Big fan of
witch trials? No? Then how about bans on drinking, gambling and
women showing anything other than their faces, hands and an
occasional daring display of (gasp) naked *wrist* in public,
then?
> Their plan and project was the New World Order based on occultism, paganism,
> satanism and evil. It should be clear now why there is a reference like the
> "Wild
> West".
Nope. Honest, I'm baffled. And I'm probably not the only one.
> When you assume that all religions are equal to Christianity, you are
> the
> antichrist.
"Moooooooommy! BarbaLoony called me a bad naaaaaaaaaaaame!"
> > *You're* the one who's assuming something about a "Christian
> > tradition", not me. Your assumptions are not, contrary to the
> > many people who apparently live in your head, everyone else's.
>
> That's my point, the USA's national and international policy has hardly
> been Judea Christian.
I think I admitted that earlier in this thread, BL.
Do try to keep up.
> Remember that "Thou shalled not kill" thing?
> To repeat Chomsky phrase: "if the Nuremberg standards would be
> imposed on all USA leaders they would deserve the death penalty as
> much as Goring, Bohrman and others of the nazis in the Nuremberg
> trials". That part of the USA constitution that wants all religions to be
> equal is nothing more than a cover up for satanism.
Chomsky - for all of his individual quirks and opinions - probably
wouldn't be pleased if he knew he was being quoted by someone who
actually takes Satanism (and their Fr33mas0n allies, d00d) seriously.
> > > I urge you sincerely to do some
> > > reality-checking
> > > now and then. GW Bush is a satanist, member of Skull and Bones, just
> like
> > > his father
> > > was.
> >
> > Skull and Bones is merely a silly group of rich Yalies who were
> > lampooned quite accurately in _Doonesbury_ a decade ago. Assuming
> > that they're anything else is only an indication that you're a
> > very silly individual - and making the claim that they're some
> > sort of all-powerful Satanist cabal (especially considering
> > Dubya's public statements concerning his religious beliefs!)
> > only makes you look like a *very*, very silly one.
>
> And tell me how anything Bush GW says can be trusted?
Didn't say he did, jackass. As a matter of fact, his public
advocacy of a stripe of fundamentalist Christianity (which is
*still* a bit saner than yours, strangely enough) doesn't
say much for his intellect.
> Where are the
> WMD in Iraq for example?
They weren't. And keep in mind that Dubya's purported religious
beliefs didn't keep him from lying about it. So where does that
leave you?
> The Taliban had to be removed from power
> because of their alleged support to OBL right? Nothing of that kind. The
> Taliban had to be removed because they wanted too much money for an
> oilpipeling to the west. The puppet-regime of Karzai is much more friendly
> to the USA. Oil, that's why Saddam needed to be removed as well. Bush GW
> needs OBL to stay in power. Just like Sharon and Afarat need each other
> to stay in power.
Sharon and Arafat need each other like a freshly dug hole in the
ground. One will eventually end up being the death of the other,
if not both, and trying to believe that they're somehow in cahoots
is like trying to believe - well, much of what you've posted in the
past.
> This so called war on terrorism is nothing but a planned
> scheme by dark forces on this planet. Freemasonry combined with many
> elements from the secret muslim brotherhoods.
Oh, boy - so now it's not only the Fr33mas0ns and the Santaists:
it's them and the S00per Sekrit Musl1m Br0therh00ds! This is
getting better and better...
> The entire story Powell did in the UN security council was nothing but
> a hoax, a list of lies fabricated by the USA government.
I've noticed. Unfortunately, I fail to see where the
little green Confederate Martian Satanist Freemason Muslim
Presbyterian Alliance ends up in the jackpot.
> If you really believe that Skull and Bones is just a silly studentgame then
> it is you who needs reality checks again. It is satanism to the bones.
Santaism t0 the bon3s, d00d? R3ally and Tr00ly?
> > > His granddad was a great supporter of Hitler and funded the Third
> > > Reich.
> >
> > Prescott Bush did some slimy things concerning economic support
> > of the Nazis. So did JFK's father Joe. Your point?
>
> So when one does it it's okay that more do it? What a reasoning.
> Gee, I am in Belgium, ever heard of this Dutroux guy kidnapping
> young girls, abusing them, torturing them and killing them? Are you
> saying that you would perfectly understand if I followed his footsteps?
You misunderstood my point. My point is that if we blamed every
politician for every action a relative of theirs undertook that
could be considered unsavory, we'd end up only being able to
elect hamsters to public office after a while.
And as far as this Dutroux guy is concerned, what? Is he your
father or something? If so, that explains a lot.
> > > Take a look again at your one dollar bill. The all seeing eye is the eye
> of
> > > Horus, it's
> > > an occultist paganist symbol very contrair to the Judean-Christian
> > > tradition.
> >
> > Ever read the First Amendment to the United States Constitution,
> > BarbaLoony? It would seem to take some wind of your sails concerning
> > the importance of the "Judean-Christian tradition" to any arguments
> > about what the Federal Government does.
>
> See my remarks about the need for a religion-free civillization in order to
> work out their evil One World Order plan above.
Yeah, I saw them. They're quite ridiculous.
Next stupid idea?
> > > Take a
> > > look at the double headed eagle, which is actually a phoenix.
> >
> > I don't recall phoenixes having double heads. *Or* eagles.
>
> The double headed Eagle on your one dollar bill isn't an eagle.
*What* double-headed eagle?
Are you suffering from visual hallucinations in addition to all your
other assorted problems?
> It's the
> Egyptian phoenix.
I think I just answered my own question.
> When a phoenix dies the new one will be born out of
> the chest of the older one thus creating a symbol with two heads.
Er, no. It'll be born out of its own *ashes*, and I don't
remember many Phoenix myths that mention anything about the
next one having two heads. You sure you don't have this
confused with a certain bad horror movie from the 70's or
something?
> > > Again a pagan occult symbol of evil which has nothing to do with the
> Judean
> > > Christian tradition.
> >
> > Irrelevant to the stated powers of the Federal Government as
> > mentioned in the First Amendment. Next?
>
> See above.
As I said before, it's all delusional twaddle.
Next stupid idea?
> > > It is all there
> > >
> > > If you want to debate this then debate this. Deliver the evidence that
> all
> > > those symbols
> > > are actually belonging to the Judean Christian tradition.
> >
> > More of the same irrelevancy. Next?
> >
> > > I rest my case, you have delivered nothing.
> >
> > Which is an improvement on the steaming pile you've been
> > working on.
>
> While you still have delivered nothing substantial.
And you're obviously in need of some serious medication.
That, or you're trolling. Nobody this fucked up should
be able to type, much less post.
Oh. Wait. This is Usenet.
So much for *that* idea.
-Chris Krolczyk
John Wilkins
> wil...@wehi.edu.au (John Wilkins) wrote:
> > stew dean <ste...@webslave.dircon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > "Barbarossa" <fa07...@skynet.be> wrote:
> > > > MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.
> > > >
> > > > Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it
> > > > acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such
> > > > symbol(s) are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing
> > > > about it.
> > >
> > > This is, of course, complete unfounded rubbish.
> >
> > Also known as the doctrine of signatures, with a dash of the
> > macrocosm/microcosm distinction. Or, as logicians like to call it, the
> > fallacy of affirming the consequent.
>
> Obscure. Here's an internet translation (meaning I had to do some
> research to decode the message). Still doesnt make any sense.
[Hint: Google is not "research" :-)]
>
> "Also known as [a belief in herbal healing] with a dash of
> local/global distinction."
>
> Urm - think doctrine of signatures has another meaning in general use.
> I'll go back to that.
>
> 'The fallacy of affirming the consequent' in easier to understand
> terms means..
>
> "If it's raining then the streets are wet.
> The streets are wet.
> Therefore, it's raining"
>
> Or x leads to y then if you have y then it must have been x.
>
> In the above case the streets may be wet due to any number of reasons
> other than y.
>
> Okay back to the doctrine of signatures. It's also known as the
> 'Doctorine of Correspondences'. This appears to be pseudoscience
> favoured by the esoteric related to global beliefs in how plants and
> animals are related. It appears to be on the same level as astrology
> and in some cases related.
>
> What does the esoteric belief have to do with the logical fallacy?
>
> Stew Dean
The dangers of free word associationfootball on the 'net...
Here's how the hindbrain processed that, as rationally reconstructed by
an objective observer (the forebrain):
Word = reality.
Coin a word, and make a reality
Similar to the idea that the power of things lies in the words used
(never tell a sorceror your birth name, because it gives him power over
you, &c.)
Similar to the idea that if something resembles another thing or has a
similar name, they share a power [doctrine of signatures]
Based on the idea that what is true in one's head must be true in the
world and vice versa [doctrine of microcosm/macrocosm]
Founded on the belief that because we see a causal relationship in one
instance [as in seeing words affect human behaviours] we must always
assume the same causes when we see those effects [words are always what
affects things]. Also known as the fallacy of affirming the consequent.
Therefore Platonism is false. Um... I'm not sure about the validity of
the derivation of that last conclusion.
Alles klar?
--
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>[Hint: Google is not "research" :-)]
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stew dean
Okay - that makes more sense. I didnt find any reference to 'doctrine
of signatures' outside of implication of how things are invisibly
connected, especially in regard to herbal healing (akin to the force
in Star Wars). The use of platonism may be better falsified via the
use of objective vs subjective (always my favourite) but I can see
what you mean. It goes onto a debate about how much our use of
language defines our perception and how does this relate to reality.
In my circle of friends a lot of them have English as a second
language and I find is facinating to hear different takes on the
english language and how different languages have some great words for
things english uses two or three.
Ciao
Stew Dean
Bill Jefferys
>Uh, I've met Noam Chomsky. I've talked with Noam Chomsky. In fact, I
>was one of a small group who signed Noam Chomsky to membership in the
>IWW a few years back.
Chomsky is a Wobbly?
Bill
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