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Bob Casanova

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Dec 6, 2012, 12:55:30 PM12/6/12
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With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
nothing but silence.

An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."

- McNameless

Tom McDonald

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Dec 6, 2012, 1:18:53 PM12/6/12
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On Dec 6, 11:55 am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
> nothing but silence.
>
> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?

Would it were so. Apparently there is a great deal of weeping,
wailing, gnashing, etc., at least under the radar of the mainstream
media.

But I have been reading quite a bit from NASA and other scientific
folks, including psychologists and school folks, who note that many
kids, and some adults, are so worried about it that they are
considering suicide before December 21. This is the really dark side
of pseudo-science.

I certainly hope that no one does commit suicide, or even, as
reported, parents killing their children then committing suicide.
But, if it happens to any poor soul or souls, then the woo-woo scare
mongers will have blood on their hands.

John Bode

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Dec 6, 2012, 2:26:05 PM12/6/12
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On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:18:53 PM UTC-6, Tom McDonald wrote:

[snip]

> I certainly hope that no one does commit suicide, or even, as
> reported, parents killing their children then committing suicide.
> But, if it happens to any poor soul or souls, then the woo-woo scare
> mongers will have blood on their hands.

Not that anyone will hold them accountable over it.

At the risk of sounding like a horrible person, I can't feel
too much sympathy for anyone over the age of 12 who gets that
worked up about it. People that beholden to magical thinking
are a drag on everyone else. I don't *want* anyone to off
themselves, but I'm not going to cry if they do.

When Dec 22 comes and goes, I won't point and laugh. I'll just
ask those people, "are you starting to *get it* yet?"

dali_70

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:21:24 PM12/6/12
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I want to meet some of these fools who think the world is going to end
on Dec. 21st and buy their stuff at a huge discount... like their car.
I'll give em a few hundred for it, and pick it up on Dec. 20th. Then
when Dec. 22nd comes around and their feeling like a complete boob,
I'll offer to sell it back to them at twice what I paid. We'll call it
an idiot tax.

eridanus

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Dec 6, 2012, 5:43:55 PM12/6/12
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El jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2012 18:18:53 UTC, Tom McDonald escribió:
Those suicides could be awarded posthumously with the cross of Darwin,
for eliminating some genes of gullibility off the pool genome.




prawnster

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Dec 6, 2012, 8:40:55 PM12/6/12
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On Dec 6, 2:43 pm, eridanus <leopoldo.perd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> Those suicides could be awarded posthumously with the cross of Darwin,
> for eliminating some genes of gullibility off the pool genome.

But since created it was by evolution all, then there must
adaptaciousness be much of in those suicidal believers that the end
comes soon, and maybe evolution was itself to be created anyway, and
maybe even evolution saw that in suicide of homo sapiens not adaptated
then evolution gets its wants anyway? But that's uncharitable and in
for not what we should be for another's desires.

"When scientist accepts an unbelieved proposition, we have
hypothesis. When the proposition has exceeded the beliefs of most
educated believers, consensus is effectivated." ~ ausprawnster

Mike Painter

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Dec 6, 2012, 9:00:22 PM12/6/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:55:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:

>With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>nothing but silence.
>
>An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?


I much prefer the One True Religion end of the world.
There is the chance that some will give away all their possessions as
they did in the good old days when faith was stronger.


And don't forget the old Playboy cartoon which show a large rubble
field in space.
Floating in the foreground is a sign on a stick which says the end of
the world is coming.

jonathan

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Dec 6, 2012, 9:31:05 PM12/6/12
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"Bob Casanova" <nos...@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:uom1c8lq00tm51qr7...@4ax.com...
> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
> nothing but silence.
>
> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?



The famous date was chosen cause that's where
the Mayan calendar ran out of rock~

chris thompson

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Dec 6, 2012, 9:39:42 PM12/6/12
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On Dec 6, 12:55 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
All this Mayan stuff is silly. They just ran out of stone tablets.

Chris

Klaus Hellnick

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Dec 6, 2012, 10:19:01 PM12/6/12
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>"prawnster" wrote in message
>news:d924a45c-d055-4564...@pe9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
Wrong again, shrimpie. You really ought to have taken advantage of the free
genetics and evolution course on Coursera.org.
Harmful recessive genes are very hard to eliminate from a population,
especially a large one. Furthermore, the fact that such alleles exist does
not imply they were selected for.
Klaus

Burkhard

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Dec 7, 2012, 2:31:41 AM12/7/12
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I never understood why some people get so worked up about what one bee
may have said about the end of the world. I mean, bees aren't THAT
intelligent.

jillery

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Dec 7, 2012, 3:44:34 AM12/7/12
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:31:41 -0800 (PST), Burkhard <b.sc...@ed.ac.uk>
wrote:
One bee? Or was it two bees? Two bees, or not two bees? That is the
question.

J. J. Lodder J. J. Lodder

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Dec 7, 2012, 4:59:09 AM12/7/12
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Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:

> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
> nothing but silence.

Perhaps you should go to Bugarach, France.
(if you can get past the gendarmerie)

They may call in the army too,
to keep out all those Americans
who have booked one-way tickets,

<http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hippies-head-for-noahs-a
rk-queue-here-for-rescue-aboard-alien-spaceship-7584492.html>

You can take a bottle home, as souvenir:
<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3RQhZI5TQQ/Ttz5TcKao8I/AAAAAAAAAUc/YT11kd26Q
DI/s1600/Bugarach.jpg>

Jan

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:34:26 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:31:05 -0500, jonathan wrote:

> "Bob Casanova" <nos...@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:uom1c8lq00tm51qr7...@4ax.com...
>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>> nothing but silence.
>>
>> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>
>
>
> The famous date was chosen cause that's where
> the Mayan calendar ran out of rock~

They stuck on a little banana-leaf as a post-it note, "see other stone", but it has since rotted away...

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:35:26 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:31:05 -0500, jonathan wrote:

> "Bob Casanova" <nos...@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:uom1c8lq00tm51qr7...@4ax.com...
>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>> nothing but silence.
>>
>> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>
>
>
> The famous date was chosen cause that's where
> the Mayan calendar ran out of rock~

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:35:43 PM12/7/12
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It was B. B. King, of course.

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:39:20 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:44:34 -0500, jillery wrote:

Kleuskes & Moos

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:34:56 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:31:05 -0500, jonathan wrote:

> "Bob Casanova" <nos...@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:uom1c8lq00tm51qr7...@4ax.com...
>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>> nothing but silence.
>>
>> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>
>
>
> The famous date was chosen cause that's where
> the Mayan calendar ran out of rock~

prawnster

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Dec 7, 2012, 1:08:06 PM12/7/12
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On Dec 6, 7:19�pm, "Klaus Hellnick" <khelln...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> [...]
> Wrong again, shrimpie. You really ought to have taken advantage of the free
> genetics and evolution course on Coursera.org.
> Harmful recessive genes are very hard to eliminate from a population,
> especially a large one. Furthermore, the fact that such alleles exist does
> not imply they were selected for.

You understood me? Wow. Do tell! Because I was just mocking
eradinus's pisspoor English; I wasn't actually saying anything.

"When one scientist accepts an unproven assertion, it is called a
hypothesis. When many scientists accept an unproven assertion, it is
called a consensus." ~ prawnmobster

Bob Casanova

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Dec 7, 2012, 1:34:30 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:00:22 -0800, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net>:

>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:55:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>>weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>>continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>>nothing but silence.
>>
>>An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>
>
>I much prefer the One True Religion end of the world.
>There is the chance that some will give away all their possessions as
>they did in the good old days when faith was stronger.

Several others have noted that; I'd also be happy to be a
recipient. ;-)

>And don't forget the old Playboy cartoon which show a large rubble
>field in space.
>Floating in the foreground is a sign on a stick which says the end of
>the world is coming.

I like it! ;-)

A slightly less all-embracing EotW cartoon I liked:

A field of devastation; what once was an Air Force base. A
single pole-mounted speaker is still standing, with "Now
hear this. We won." coming from the speaker.

Bob Casanova

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Dec 7, 2012, 1:37:04 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:59:09 +0100, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) (J. J. Lodder):

>Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>> nothing but silence.
>
>Perhaps you should go to Bugarach, France.

I'll pass, but thanks.

>(if you can get past the gendarmerie)
>
>They may call in the army too,
>to keep out all those Americans
>who have booked one-way tickets,

So they'll be letting in all the others? Seems like unfair
discrimination to me...

><http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hippies-head-for-noahs-a
>rk-queue-here-for-rescue-aboard-alien-spaceship-7584492.html>
>
>You can take a bottle home, as souvenir:
><http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3RQhZI5TQQ/Ttz5TcKao8I/AAAAAAAAAUc/YT11kd26Q
>DI/s1600/Bugarach.jpg>
>
>Jan

Bob Casanova

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Dec 7, 2012, 1:39:19 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:40:55 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by prawnster
<zweib...@ymail.com>:

>On Dec 6, 2:43�pm, eridanus <leopoldo.perd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Those suicides could be awarded posthumously with the cross of Darwin,
>> for eliminating some genes of gullibility off the pool genome.

<snip random-association babbling>

You need to get your keyboard checked; apparently someone
programmed it for Babel.

Bob Casanova

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Dec 8, 2012, 1:35:27 PM12/8/12
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:39:19 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>:

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:40:55 -0800 (PST), the following
>appeared in talk.origins, posted by prawnster
><zweib...@ymail.com>:
>
>>On Dec 6, 2:43 pm, eridanus <leopoldo.perd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Those suicides could be awarded posthumously with the cross of Darwin,
>>> for eliminating some genes of gullibility off the pool genome.
>
><snip random-association babbling>

[Sorry; should have left a couple of words of Shrimpie's
babbling to show it was his post I was referring to, if the
attribution wasn't sufficient.]

Mark Isaak

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Dec 8, 2012, 8:20:45 PM12/8/12
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On 12/7/12 10:34 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:00:22 -0800, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by Mike Painter
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:55:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>>> nothing but silence.
>>>
>>> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>>
>> I much prefer the One True Religion end of the world.
>> There is the chance that some will give away all their possessions as
>> they did in the good old days when faith was stronger.
>
> Several others have noted that; I'd also be happy to be a
> recipient. ;-)

I was once a recipient of some survivalist supplies whose owner no
longer wanted them a few weeks *after* a scheduled apocalypse.

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Boikat

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Dec 8, 2012, 11:20:52 PM12/8/12
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On Dec 6, 11:55�am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
> nothing but silence.
>
> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?

I dunno. I'm still waiting for my refund for "The Jupiter Effect"....

Boikat

Bob Casanova

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On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:20:45 -0800, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Mark Isaak
<eci...@curioustax.onomy.net>:

>On 12/7/12 10:34 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:00:22 -0800, the following appeared
>> in talk.origins, posted by Mike Painter
>> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:55:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
>>>> weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
>>>> continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
>>>> nothing but silence.
>>>>
>>>> An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>>>
>>> I much prefer the One True Religion end of the world.
>>> There is the chance that some will give away all their possessions as
>>> they did in the good old days when faith was stronger.
>>
>> Several others have noted that; I'd also be happy to be a
>> recipient. ;-)
>
>I was once a recipient of some survivalist supplies whose owner no
>longer wanted them a few weeks *after* a scheduled apocalypse.

Cool! Anything useful to you?

Bob Casanova

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:20:52 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Boikat
<boi...@bellsouth.net>:
Yeah...

I recommend *not* holding your breath...

John S. Wilkins

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Dec 9, 2012, 5:56:31 PM12/9/12
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It will be on 21 December.
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
- http://evolvingthoughts.net

John Thompson

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Dec 9, 2012, 8:23:07 PM12/9/12
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On Dec 7, 10:08 am, prawnster <zweibro...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 7:19 pm, "Klaus Hellnick" <khelln...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > Wrong again, shrimpie. You really ought to have taken advantage of the free
> > genetics and evolution course on Coursera.org.
> > Harmful recessive genes are very hard to eliminate from a population,
> > especially a large one. Furthermore, the fact that such alleles exist does
> > not imply they were selected for.
>
> You understood me?  Wow.  Do tell!  Because I was just mocking
> eradinus's pisspoor English; I wasn't actually saying anything.

We realize that. You have never had anything to say.

Mike Painter

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:56:31 +1100, jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
Wilkins) wrote:

>
>John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
>Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
>- http://evolvingthoughts.net

Molly, the woman in my life just met a woman from Australia.
The woman was saying how hard it was for her to imagine Christmas in
winter time.

John S. Wilkins

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Dec 10, 2012, 5:39:04 AM12/10/12
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Yeah, you northern hemispherians get it all wrong.
--

Mark Isaak

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Dec 10, 2012, 11:36:54 AM12/10/12
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A pair of wool gloves. I vaguely remember that I got a rain
poncho/reflective sheet too, but I never used it and don't have it anymore.

Bob Casanova

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:36:54 -0800, the following appeared
Every little gift helps... ;-)

johnetho...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 10, 2:39 am, j...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote:
> Mike Painter <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:56:31 +1100, j...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
> > Wilkins) wrote:
>
> > >John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
> > >Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
> > >-http://evolvingthoughts.net
>
> > Molly, the woman in my life just met a woman from Australia.
> > The woman was saying how hard it was for her to imagine Christmas in
> > winter time.
>
> Yeah, you northern hemispherians get it all wrong.

Some of us do get brainwashed by seeing all the maps with north at the
top, and think this is something other than convention. My brother
lived in Australia for several years and once sent me a "corrected
world map" (I believe that was the name) - a mercator projection with
south at the top and Australia in the middle. I put it up on the wall
of my office at work. Almost nobody recognized what it was. Some
people even insisted that it wasn't a world map after I told them, and
were only convinced when I took it down and turned it over.

Mike Painter

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:39:04 +1100, jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
Wilkins) wrote:

>Mike Painter <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:56:31 +1100, jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
>> Wilkins) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
>> >Honorary Fellow, University of Melbourne
>> >- http://evolvingthoughts.net
>>
>> Molly, the woman in my life just met a woman from Australia.
>> The woman was saying how hard it was for her to imagine Christmas in
>> winter time.
>
>Yeah, you northern hemispherians get it all wrong.

You third worldians (according to the wisdom of Patrick) break the
wrong end of the egg

Walter Bushell

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Dec 11, 2012, 8:11:15 AM12/11/12
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In article
<e2d0fd19-e01f-466f...@jl13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 6, 11:55 am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> > With the predicted End of the World only a little over two
> > weeks away one would think the lamentations would be
> > continuous: Weeping, wailing, gnashing, all that stuff. Yet
> > nothing but silence.
> >
> > An Illuminati plot, perhaps...?
>
> Would it were so. Apparently there is a great deal of weeping,
> wailing, gnashing, etc., at least under the radar of the mainstream
> media.
>
> But I have been reading quite a bit from NASA and other scientific
> folks, including psychologists and school folks, who note that many
> kids, and some adults, are so worried about it that they are
> considering suicide before December 21. This is the really dark side
> of pseudo-science.
>
> I certainly hope that no one does commit suicide, or even, as
> reported, parents killing their children then committing suicide.
> But, if it happens to any poor soul or souls, then the woo-woo scare
> mongers will have blood on their hands.

Well you know, improves the breed.

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

Walter Bushell

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Dec 11, 2012, 8:12:39 AM12/11/12
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In article <b0681c77-4a5c-4e01...@googlegroups.com>,
John Bode <jfbod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:18:53 PM UTC-6, Tom McDonald wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I certainly hope that no one does commit suicide, or even, as
> > reported, parents killing their children then committing suicide.
> > But, if it happens to any poor soul or souls, then the woo-woo scare
> > mongers will have blood on their hands.
>
> Not that anyone will hold them accountable over it.
>
> At the risk of sounding like a horrible person, I can't feel
> too much sympathy for anyone over the age of 12 who gets that
> worked up about it. People that beholden to magical thinking
> are a drag on everyone else. I don't *want* anyone to off
> themselves, but I'm not going to cry if they do.
>
> When Dec 22 comes and goes, I won't point and laugh. I'll just
> ask those people, "are you starting to *get it* yet?"

Probably not. Some will fall away, but many will become stronger
believers. This for the same reason there are Jehova's Witless.
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