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Dale

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May 19, 2012, 9:01:16 PM5/19/12
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I've stripped the extraneous parts

I watched a documentary of sex on cable television, I forget the channel

during sex the female sex system releases chemicals that kill sperm

the male sperm squad has specific members that attack this chemical and
allow certain sperm to pass through and proceed towards the egg

what processes choose what sperm do what?

could the brain be trying to pass off environmental knowledge by
selecting certain sperm for certain processes?

this addition to mutation and natural selection makes much more sense

--
Dale

Arkalen

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May 19, 2012, 9:22:18 PM5/19/12
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You know I don't really care that you ignore all my responses to you
even though I really try to engage with what you're saying and all that,
but when you repost a question could you at least try and indicate you
*read* all the responses to the original one, and explain why they were
inadequate ?

Dale

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May 19, 2012, 10:34:42 PM5/19/12
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On 05/19/2012 09:22 PM, Arkalen wrote:
>
> You know I don't really care that you ignore all my responses to you
> even though I really try to engage with what you're saying and all that,
> but when you repost a question could you at least try and indicate you
> *read* all the responses to the original one, and explain why they were
> inadequate ?

no one was talking about the choice of what sperm do what

I'll try to reply to you better


--
Dale

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.org

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May 20, 2012, 7:17:38 AM5/20/12
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Most of the answers were only saying "Darwin
didn't even know about DNA." Nevertheless,
Darwinism /is/ about DNA - nowadays, anyway.

I don't know how sperm are (apparently) made
for different roles, and I'm not sure that
anyone does, but it doesn't appear that the
brain has much to do with it. After all,
sperm are made quite a long time before
they are used. However, evolution can
be expected to take advantage of any
opportunity to improve individual success,
and I could believe that committing
adultery releases brain chemicals - the
hormones of lust and fear of being caught -
that are received by sperm as last-minute
instructions to change some of their roles.
But me describing it isn't science, it is
making it up.

I Googled for"sperm" and "different roles"
and got various results, from unauthenticated
sources. One in written in 2006 refers to
"kamikaze sperm". One in 2011 uses the words
"might be" and "kamikaze sperm hypothesis".
This is how people write when they don't know.
So you may as well stop asking - but, if you
still want to know the answer, then look for
a way to help with scientific research.

Arkalen

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May 20, 2012, 9:05:36 AM5/20/12
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I was, although I see you're extremely confused as to how biology works
so you may not have realized it. But thanks for your reply.

Arkalen

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May 20, 2012, 9:10:14 AM5/20/12
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(2012/05/20 20:17), Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc
talk-o...@moderators.isc.org wrote:
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:22:18 AM UTC+1, Arkalen wrote:
>> (2012/05/20 10:01), Dale wrote:
>>> I've stripped the extraneous parts
>>>
>>> I watched a documentary of sex on cable television, I forget the channel
>>>
>>> during sex the female sex system releases chemicals that kill sperm
>>>
>>> the male sperm squad has specific members that attack this chemical and
>>> allow certain sperm to pass through and proceed towards the egg
>>>
>>> what processes choose what sperm do what?
>>>
>>> could the brain be trying to pass off environmental knowledge by
>>> selecting certain sperm for certain processes?
>>>
>>> this addition to mutation and natural selection makes much more sense
>>>
>>
>> You know I don't really care that you ignore all my responses to you
>> even though I really try to engage with what you're saying and all that,
>> but when you repost a question could you at least try and indicate you
>> *read* all the responses to the original one, and explain why they were
>> inadequate ?
>
> Most of the answers were only saying "Darwin
> didn't even know about DNA."

And ? All the more reason to respond to the answers that *weren't* only
saying that.

Earle Jones

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May 20, 2012, 11:05:59 PM5/20/12
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In article <5l65a9....@news.alt.net>,
*
Dale:

In one month, the human female can produce one egg cell.

The male can produce, in one month, about 375 million sperm cells.

Do you know why?

Because the males do not stop and ask for directions.

earle
*

Karel

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May 21, 2012, 7:04:43 AM5/21/12
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On 20 mei, 03:01, Dale <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> I've stripped the extraneous parts
[snip]

Thanks for the suggestion. And don't worry, sometimes it
just takes more tries.

Regards,

Karel

Bob Casanova

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May 22, 2012, 1:34:22 PM5/22/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:

>I've stripped the extraneous parts

Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
levels...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

J. J. Lodder

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May 22, 2012, 5:07:59 PM5/22/12
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Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>
> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>
> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
> levels...

Maybe he can sing?

Jan

Bob Casanova

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May 23, 2012, 4:33:09 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):
He's a horse?

jillery

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May 25, 2012, 1:14:44 AM5/25/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:33:09 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
>in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
>Lodder):
>
>>Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
>>> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>>>
>>> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>>>
>>> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
>>> levels...
>>
>>Maybe he can sing?
>
>He's a horse?

Or a pig?

J. J. Lodder

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May 25, 2012, 3:21:33 AM5/25/12
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Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
> Lodder):
>
> >Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
> >> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
> >>
> >> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
> >>
> >> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
> >> levels...
> >
> >Maybe he can sing?
>
> He's a horse?

No, a chipmunk, obviously.
(consults the illustrations in the authorative works
of the most learned Prof. W. Disney)

It checks, no external parts,

Jan

Bob Casanova

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May 25, 2012, 1:17:43 PM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 01:14:44 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
Wouldn't the relevant activity then be "fly"?

Bob Casanova

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May 25, 2012, 1:18:20 PM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:21:33 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):

>Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
>> in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
>> Lodder):
>>
>> >Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
>> >> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>> >>
>> >> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>> >>
>> >> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
>> >> levels...
>> >
>> >Maybe he can sing?
>>
>> He's a horse?
>
>No, a chipmunk, obviously.
>(consults the illustrations in the authorative works
>of the most learned Prof. W. Disney)
>
>It checks, no external parts,

Aha! A bit obscure, but OK.

Burkhard

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May 25, 2012, 1:23:49 PM5/25/12
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On May 23, 9:33�pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
> Lodder):
>
> >Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
> >> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inva...@invalid.invalid>:
>
> >> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>
> >> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
> >> levels...
>
> >Maybe he can sing?
>
> He's a horse?
> --
.
of course, of course.


Free Lunch

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May 25, 2012, 1:54:00 PM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT), Burkhard <b.sc...@ed.ac.uk>
wrote in talk.origins:
Did Hollywood really inflict that television show on the UK or Germany?

Burkhard

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May 25, 2012, 2:20:50 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 6:54 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT), Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk>
Both, I'm afraid - the German version in my formative years. Maybe I
should sue someone...

jillery

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May 26, 2012, 3:42:33 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:17:43 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:

>On Fri, 25 May 2012 01:14:44 -0400, the following appeared
>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>
>>On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:33:09 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
>>>in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
>>>Lodder):
>>>
>>>>Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>>>>>
>>>>> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
>>>>> levels...
>>>>
>>>>Maybe he can sing?
>>>
>>>He's a horse?
>>
>>Or a pig?
>
>Wouldn't the relevant activity then be "fly"?


Possibly. There exist horseflys, but it remains unclear whether
flying horses are more likely than flying pigs. I am thinking of the
parable of teaching a pig to sing.

Mark Isaak

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May 26, 2012, 12:30:07 PM5/26/12
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On 5/26/12 12:42 AM, jillery wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:17:43 -0700, Bob Casanova<nos...@buzz.off>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 01:14:44 -0400, the following appeared
>> in talk.origins, posted by jillery<69jp...@gmail.com>:
>>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:33:09 -0700, Bob Casanova<nos...@buzz.off>
>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
>>>> in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
>>>> Lodder):
>>>>> Bob Casanova<nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by Dale<inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've stripped the extraneous parts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
>>>>>> levels...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe he can sing?
>>>>
>>>> He's a horse?
>>>
>>> Or a pig?
>>
>> Wouldn't the relevant activity then be "fly"?
>
> Possibly. There exist horseflys, but it remains unclear whether
> flying horses are more likely than flying pigs. I am thinking of the
> parable of teaching a pig to sing.

Teaching a pig to sing is particularly difficult if the pig is hoarse.

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Bob Casanova

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May 26, 2012, 1:52:21 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:42:33 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:

>On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:17:43 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 01:14:44 -0400, the following appeared
>>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:33:09 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:07:59 +0200, the following appeared
>>>>in talk.origins, posted by nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
>>>>Lodder):
>>>>
>>>>>Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:01:16 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by Dale <inv...@invalid.invalid>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I've stripped the extraneous parts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Combined with the Subject:, this is disturbing on *so* many
>>>>>> levels...
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe he can sing?
>>>>
>>>>He's a horse?
>>>
>>>Or a pig?
>>
>>Wouldn't the relevant activity then be "fly"?
>
>
>Possibly. There exist horseflys, but it remains unclear whether
>flying horses are more likely than flying pigs. I am thinking of the
>parable of teaching a pig to sing.

Point; I was thinking of the conditional probability usually
expressed as "when pigs fly".

jillery

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May 27, 2012, 12:36:49 PM5/27/12
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So the question remains; can a piggy pig sing better than a hoarse
horse? I will take a stand and say yes it can!

jillery

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May 27, 2012, 1:19:45 PM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:52:21 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
I've seen a housefly, horsefly and dragonfly, but I agree when I see a
pig fly that will be a most unusual event.

deadrat

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May 27, 2012, 1:25:12 PM5/27/12
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Religious schism in three, two, one ....


Bob Casanova

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May 27, 2012, 6:03:33 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:19:45 -0400, the following appeared
My point exactly.

And remember Groucho's famous words: "Time flies like an
arrow; fruit flies like a banana".

Walter Bushell

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May 27, 2012, 9:41:39 PM5/27/12
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In article <k295s71h5s4gkoh5l...@4ax.com>,
But, but but pigs fly all the time, sometimes escorting prisoners.

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

jillery

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May 28, 2012, 4:40:25 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:03:33 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
One of my favorite tag lines.

Earle Jones

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May 28, 2012, 2:43:05 PM5/28/12
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In article <2fe6s7181ukd8h8qj...@4ax.com>,
*
I also like this line:

"You stole my wife, you horse thief!"

earale
*

Walter Bushell

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May 29, 2012, 10:11:04 AM5/29/12
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In article <2fe6s7181ukd8h8qj...@4ax.com>,
And flying termites like an arrow too.

Walter Bushell

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Jun 2, 2012, 1:21:30 PM6/2/12
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In article <vrm4s79jomnea9abb...@4ax.com>,
But I done seen 'bout anything when I see an elephant fly!

Paul J Gans

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Jun 2, 2012, 3:02:07 PM6/2/12
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How about a Boing 767?

--
--- Paul J. Gans

Louann Miller

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Jun 2, 2012, 3:39:36 PM6/2/12
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Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote in news:jqdnvf$79g$5
@reader1.panix.com:

> How about a Boing 767?

Is that the noise it makes?

Walter Bushell

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Jun 2, 2012, 6:15:54 PM6/2/12
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In article <W_SdnUbrtrtl9lfS...@giganews.com>,
What no Dumbo reference in the thread?

Paul J Gans

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Jun 2, 2012, 9:55:54 PM6/2/12
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No, it's more like "eeeeeeeeeee".... ;-(

Paul J Gans

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Jun 2, 2012, 9:56:52 PM6/2/12
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Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <W_SdnUbrtrtl9lfS...@giganews.com>,
> Louann Miller <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote in news:jqdnvf$79g$5
>> @reader1.panix.com:
>>
>> > How about a Boing 767?
>>
>> Is that the noise it makes?

>What no Dumbo reference in the thread?

That's too eerie for me.

jillery

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Jun 3, 2012, 1:16:46 AM6/3/12
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:21:30 -0400, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
wrote:
Give that man a cigar!

jillery

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Jun 3, 2012, 1:56:44 AM6/3/12
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Do you mean "earie"?

Bob Casanova

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Jun 3, 2012, 3:17:23 PM6/3/12
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:44 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:

Probably has something stuck in his earie canal...

jillery

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:17:23 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:44 -0400, the following appeared
>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
>><gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <W_SdnUbrtrtl9lfS...@giganews.com>,
>>>> Louann Miller <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote in news:jqdnvf$79g$5
>>>>> @reader1.panix.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> > How about a Boing 767?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the noise it makes?
>>>
>>>>What no Dumbo reference in the thread?
>>>
>>>That's too eerie for me.
>>
>>
>>Do you mean "earie"?
>
>Probably has something stuck in his earie canal...


Perhaps Sue the mule?

Bob Casanova

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Jun 4, 2012, 3:14:37 PM6/4/12
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:45:54 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:17:23 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:44 -0400, the following appeared
>>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
>>><gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>In article <W_SdnUbrtrtl9lfS...@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Louann Miller <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote in news:jqdnvf$79g$5
>>>>>> @reader1.panix.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > How about a Boing 767?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that the noise it makes?
>>>>
>>>>>What no Dumbo reference in the thread?
>>>>
>>>>That's too eerie for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you mean "earie"?
>>
>>Probably has something stuck in his earie canal...
>
>
>Perhaps Sue the mule?

Or maybe the problem is actually in his dentures, and he has
a low bridge...

jillery

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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:14:37 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:45:54 -0400, the following appeared
>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:17:23 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:44 -0400, the following appeared
>>>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
>>>><gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>In article <W_SdnUbrtrtl9lfS...@giganews.com>,
>>>>>> Louann Miller <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote in news:jqdnvf$79g$5
>>>>>>> @reader1.panix.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > How about a Boing 767?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that the noise it makes?
>>>>>
>>>>>>What no Dumbo reference in the thread?
>>>>>
>>>>>That's too eerie for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you mean "earie"?
>>>
>>>Probably has something stuck in his earie canal...
>>
>>
>>Perhaps Sue the mule?
>
>Or maybe the problem is actually in his dentures, and he has
>a low bridge...


It would make everybody down.

Bob Casanova

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:33:50 PM6/5/12
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:04:16 -0400, the following appeared
On a similar note, I recall a comic panel: a city street,
with a periscope sticking up out of a manhole. From the
manhole, a speech bubble, "MISTER navigator!"

OK, I'm outta here... ;-)
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