Merry Christmas to all!
Nashton
lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
and my family.
I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
will ever be tortured and abused.
John Harshman
loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your family?
Will in New Haven
And the same to you.
--
Will in New Haven
Lark
Andre Lieven
> lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> and my family.
"There is no evidence scripturally or secularly that early Christians
in the
first century commemorated the birth of Jesus Christ. In fact, in
keeping
with early Jewish law and tradition, it is likely that birthdays were
not
commemorated at all. According to The World Book Encyclopedia:
"early Christians considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be
a
pagan custom." (Vol. 3, page 416) Rather than commemorating his
birth, the only command Jesus gave concerning any sort of
commemoration of his life actually had only to do with his death
(Luke 22:19). It was not until several hundred years after the death
of
Jesus Christ that the first instances of the celebration of Christmas
begin to appear in the historical record. According to the new
Encyclopedia Britannica, some who later claimed to be Christian
likely "wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival
marking the 'birthday of the unconquered sun'." The festival was
celebrated with similar customs (gift giving, feasting) that are done
to
celebrate Christmas today."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
"Clauss states that there were no public ceremonies of the
mysteries of Mithras: "the Mithraic Mysteries had no public
ceremonies of its own. The festival of natalis Invicti [Birth of the
Unconquerable (Sun)], held on 25 December, was a general
festival of the Sun, and by no means specific to the Mysteries of
Mithras."[90]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithras
Congratulations on embracing your inner pagan...
> I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> will ever be tortured and abused.
Given the record of christianity in causing or abetting such actions,
this is just base hypocrisy.
Andre
Earle Jones
Nashton <n...@nana.ca> wrote:
*
Bah! Humbug!
earle
*
Robert Camp
Ahh, better prepare for the od, icy comment.
RAM
The same to you.
And this from an atheist, no less!
JohnN
Nollaig Chridheil agus Bliadhna Mhath Ur!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
JohnN
Ray Martinez
How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations built as
compared to Christian organizations? How many feedings of poor people
do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
organizations?
Of course Atheists do not do these things because they don't care.
They don't care because there is no reason to care. There is no reason
to care because no God exists. Can anyone picture a prissy John
Harshman or Richard Dawkins giving up two years of their lives, living
in Liberia, caring for and feeding poor people (like Christian
missionaries do all over the world)?
Ray
RAM
Ray where is your Christian charity?
Most atheist, like me, give to religious efforts. We don't have
formal organizations that are communally oriented. I give to the
Salvation Army and not just to the Xmas pot collections, work and
give to our local food pantry, give and work for habitat for humanity,
served eight years on a Christian Retirement Community Board (no one
asked if I was a atheist and when they asked I said I'd be glad to do
it - I think because I regularly attend UU services they thought I was
responsible to religious efforts and I was).
So of the many atheists I know most do this sort of thing although
they would and do prefer to give to more secular efforts to help
people. They also exist like Red Cross which provided more resources
than all of the churches combined. The Bush regime wanted the
Churches to be more responsive to helping the poor and disadvantaged
but they refused because they didn't have enough resources to run
there own religious communities.
Churches give about 3 percent of all the money they take in to
charities. (http://www.salamandersociety.com/foyer/budget/)
How much does your non-church give?
Have Merry Christmas and Charity Towards All!
David Fritzinger
And, Merry Christmas to you, too.
Devils Advocaat
How about looking at the other side of that shiny Christian coin of
yours?
http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/12/christian-missionaries.html
And by the way, can you name which organisation is the biggest
coordinator of global aid?
I will give you a clue, it isn't a Christian organisation.
Iain
> On Dec 24, 6:59�am, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Nashton wrote:
> > > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > > and my family.
>
> > > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > > will ever be tortured and abused.
>
> > How's that hope working out for you so far? Has god been as kind and
> > loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your family?
>
> How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations
> built as
> compared to Christian organizations?
Many times more, obviously. Most charities simply are atheist.
And most hospitals in the United Kingdom, for example, are built by a-
theistic local authorities.
> How many feedings of poor people
> do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
> organizations?
Many times more, obviously. Mega charities such as Comic Relief and
Children in Need dwarf most denominational charities.
> Of course Atheists do not do these things because they don't care.
Shockingly naive statement.
> They don't care because there is no reason to care. There is no reason
> to care because no God exists.
Pretty barbaric non sequitur here. Shows what a mean person you
probably are. The only reason you help people is because you believe
in a god?
That's only possible with a total lack of innate emphathy.
>Can anyone picture a prissy John
> Harshman or Richard Dawkins giving up two years of their lives, living
> in Liberia, caring for and feeding poor people (like Christian
> missionaries do all over the world)?
Yes, the image rests easy in my imagination.
--Iain
chris thompson
Every single one of those hopes are fine and I second each one. I also
wish you and yours, and all readers of T.O., and in fact all people, a
healthy happy Christmas, Yule, Solstice, New Year.
All best to everyone,
Chris
chris thompson
> On Dec 24, 6:59�am, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Nashton wrote:
> > > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > > and my family.
>
> > > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > > will ever be tortured and abused.
>
> > How's that hope working out for you so far? Has god been as kind and
> > loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your family?
>
> How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations built as
> compared to Christian organizations? How many feedings of poor people
> do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
> organizations?
Well Ray, to you, "secular" is the same as "atheist".
So in fact, every single program, from WIC to Medicaire, that was
funded by the US Government, is in fact the result of an atheist
agenda.
Go figure.
Chris
Caranx latus
> lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> and my family.
I appreciate your good wishes, and I return them to you in full.
> I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> will ever be tortured and abused.
I agree. I would also hope that people will treat each other with
fairness and empathy, and will help each other when that help is
needed.
A Merry Christmas to everyone!
Kleuskes & Moos
Zalige Kerst & een Gezegend Nieuwjaar!
All-Seeing-I
Thanks Nash.
May the peace of the lord be with you and your family during this
symbolic holiday season.
All-Seeing-I
wrote:
Well said Chris, imho.
May you blessed by the Tsaddiq and El-Olam with all goodness and
health in the up comming new year.
Shalom
All-Seeing-I
Careful Fish. You could be a Nazarene with thoughts like this..
> A Merry Christmas to everyone!
u2
jehovah-shammah
Dakota
I'm not surprised that it's not Christian but I don't know what
organization it is. Please post a follow-up.
Thanks
All-Seeing-I
I loathe having to agree with you, but Christmas is a pagan Holiday.
It is that simple.
Not much to it that remembers God. But it does remember money.
>
> > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > will ever be tortured and abused.
>
> Given the record of christianity in causing or abetting such actions,
> this is just base hypocrisy.
Such lies. Christianity is directly responsible for feeding, housing
and clothing more people and animals then any organized sect in
mankind's history. Surely more good then bad in the Christian history.
You are just a God hating freak.
Caranx latus
Nah. I'm not from Nazarenia.
All-seeing-I
Good. Because there is no such place.
>
> > > A Merry Christmas to everyone!
>
> > u2
>
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>
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Sox
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Lighten up, Dude. It was simply wishing all health, joy, and prosperity, a
valid wish whether aimed by or at Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, agnostic,
polytheist, pagan, or any of the myriad variations in between.
Devils Advocaat
I may be wrong, but I reckon it is the World Health Organisation, part
of the United Nations.
Tristan Miller
In article
<82e4ac68-030a-48df...@g12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, Ray
Martinez wrote:
> On Dec 24, 6:59 am, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Nashton wrote:
>> > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
>> > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
>> > and my family.
>>
>> > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
>> > will ever be tortured and abused.
>>
>> How's that hope working out for you so far? Has god been as kind and
>> loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your
>> family?
>
> How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations built as
> compared to Christian organizations? How many feedings of poor people
> do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
> organizations?
In some times and places -- say, the former Soviet Union -- probably close
to 100% of the orphanages and hospitals were run and administered by the
atheist state. That's not to say that the USSR was otherwise without
numerous faults, but this does undermine your rather preposterous claim
that "atheists do not do these things".
Regards,
Tristan
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Ye Old One
<pyram...@yahoo.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>On Dec 24, 6:59�am, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Nashton wrote:
>> > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
>> > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
>> > and my family.
>>
>> > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
>> > will ever be tortured and abused.
>>
>> How's that hope working out for you so far? Has god been as kind and
>> loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your family?
>
>How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations built as
>compared to Christian organizations?
Many.
>How many feedings of poor people
>do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
>organizations?
Many times more.
>
>Of course Atheists do not do these things because they don't care.
>They don't care because there is no reason to care. There is no reason
>to care because no God exists.
What have gods got to do with it?
>Can anyone picture a prissy John
>Harshman or Richard Dawkins giving up two years of their lives, living
>in Liberia, caring for and feeding poor people (like Christian
>missionaries do all over the world)?
Yes, I know many atheists who have worked for charity and government
organizations doing relief work overseas. I know even more atheists
who have given large amounts of money to relief aid.
In fact, in many cases the christian's intervention has proved very
bad. Aids in Africa being a prime example.
>
>Ray
--
Bob.
You have not been charged for this lesson - learn from it rather than
continuing to make a fool of yourself.
Andre Lieven
The facts are clear on that, yes.
> Not much to it that remembers God.
Can't "remember" what never existed...
> But it does remember money.
And, in the end, that is all that religion is about.
> > > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > > will ever be tortured and abused.
> >
> > Given the record of christianity in causing or abetting such actions,
> > this is just base hypocrisy.
>
> Such lies. Christianity is directly responsible for feeding, housing
> and clothing more people and animals then any organized sect in
> mankind's history. Surely more good then bad in the Christian history.
Ah, the "simple" over the facts, with you.
First of all, if you want credit for "charity" done centuries ago,
when
the churches were the ONLY game in town, then you ALSO get
with that ALL of the murders and genocides done for and by said
churches.
But, these days, most charities are secular.
> You are just a God hating freak.
<Laughs> Yes, I hate your mythical and fictional sky pixie as
much as I "hate" Santa and the Easter Bunny, not to mention
Thor, Zeus, and B'aal...
Anyone too willfully DUMB to grasp that *disbelief* in anyone
automatically means that one CANNOT hate such a person
has only their own willful dumbness to blame.
Now, I am willing to concede that, IF the sky pixie of the old
testament DID exist that he'd be a rotter that makes Hitler
look like Bob Geldoff. But, since that sky pixie IS 100%
fictional, it would be a silly waste of time to "hate" it.
I don't "hate" Darth Vader, either. For exactly the same
reason...
Andre
Andre Lieven
No, and piss off. Your Netcop freakishness is your own problem.
Even on the day when many people's heads turn to mush, I still
prefer FACTS.
> It was simply wishing all health, joy, and prosperity, a
> valid wish whether aimed by or at Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, agnostic,
> polytheist, pagan, or any of the myriad variations in between.
That's nice, so how about any and all of those religions leave the
rest
of us the heck alone the other 364 days of the year ?
I don't give free passes.
Andre
el cid
> Sox wrote:
> > "Andre Lieven" <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
He's hardly alone in thinking you are an ass.
An ass who goes out of his way to be obnoxious.
> Even on the day when many people's heads turn to mush, I still
> prefer FACTS.
Yeah, they take an excuse to spend more time with family.
Mommy must not have loved you.
> > It was simply wishing all health, joy, and prosperity, a
> > valid wish whether aimed by or at Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, agnostic,
> > polytheist, pagan, or any of the myriad variations in between.
>
> That's nice, so how about any and all of those religions leave the
> rest
> of us the heck alone the other 364 days of the year ?
>
> I don't give free passes.
I'd bet I could spot you walking on the street, cause anyone
with that big a burr up his backside has got to have a funny walk.
Andre Lieven
"The lurkers support me in e-mail."
"I'll respect you in the morning..."
> An ass who goes out of his way to be obnoxious.
<Projection>
> > Even on the day when many people's heads turn to mush, I still
> > prefer FACTS.
>
> Yeah, they take an excuse to spend more time with family.
> Mommy must not have loved you.
<Projection>
> > > It was simply wishing all health, joy, and prosperity, a
> > > valid wish whether aimed by or at Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, agnostic,
> > > polytheist, pagan, or any of the myriad variations in between.
> >
> > That's nice, so how about any and all of those religions leave the
> > rest of us the heck alone the other 364 days of the year ?
> >
> > I don't give free passes.
>
> I'd bet I could spot you walking on the street, cause anyone
> with that big a burr up his backside has got to have a funny walk.
<Projection>
Thanks for showing me that you have NO arguments to offer
other than kindergarten name calling.
Enjoy your life in my bozo bin: -Plonk-.
Andre
el cid
There are those who blame groups of others for evil
in the world. There have been Christians blaming Jews
or Muslims, Muslims blaming Christians, Jews or Hindus,
Hindus blaming Muslims etc. A recent trend is atheists
blaming theists, and feeling sanctimonious about it
because theists have blamed atheists. In the scientific
spirit of a proper unification theory, I blame assholes.
I especially blame assholes who hide behind their
sanctimonious position off belonging to the right side
as an excluse to act like an asshole. There's nothing
about being a Christian or a Jew, Muslim, Hindu,
theist or atheist that seems to protect one from
becoming an asshole. I used to think that the minority
position of atheists have them a slight edge as it
was a position to be arrived at by freethinkers
but, if that was ever true, the ever louder set
of atheists on the internet is actively displelling
that sense of an edge and Andre, you've more than
done your part.
Rolf
>>> And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for
>>> the lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been
>>> to me and my family.
>>
>>> animal will ever be tortured and abused.
>>
>> loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your
>> family?
>
> How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations built as
> do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
> organizations?
>
> They don't care because there is no reason to care. There is no reason
> Harshman or Richard Dawkins giving up two years of their lives, living
> in Liberia, caring for and feeding poor people (like Christian
> missionaries do all over the world)?
>
Can anyone picture stupid Ray Martinez giving up two years of his life,
living in Liberia, caring for and feeding poor people? Instead of wasting
his life here at t.o.?
You idiot, don't blame others for not doing what you yourself don't do. They
at least have a job to attend to, maybe families and other obligations too,
while you have nothing and are free to do whatever you want to, and still
you are just sitting there scratching your ass. And pulling shit out of it.
Hypocrite.
> Ray
Roger Pearse
> On Dec 24, 6:15�am, Nashton <n...@nana.ca> wrote:
>
> > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > and my family.
>
>
> Congratulations on embracing your inner pagan...
Good luck with conformity and hearsay.
> > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > will ever be tortured and abused.
>
> Given the record of christianity in causing or abetting such actions,
> this is just base hypocrisy.
Given that atheists in power behave bestially, such comments are the
sheerest hypocrisy. Example: here you are, shrieking insults on
Christmas day. Yuk.
Good luck with convenience and hypocrisy.
Andre Lieven
xtain "love":
> On Dec 24, 7:25 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 24, 6:15 am, Nashton <n...@nana.ca> wrote:
>
> > > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > > and my family.
>
> ><snip snarling>
>
> > Congratulations on embracing your inner pagan...
>
> Good luck with conformity and hearsay.
"That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without
evidence." Christopher Hitchens.
> > > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > > will ever be tortured and abused.
>
> > Given the record of christianity in causing or abetting such actions,
> > this is just base hypocrisy.
>
> Given that *theists* in power behave bestially,
Fixed it for you, no charge.
Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, 9/11....
> such comments are the sheerest hypocrisy.
<Irony Meters Explodes>
>�Example: here you are, shrieking insults on Christmas day.
So ? It's "Chinese food & a movie day". That leaves time to
point out that xtians STOLE almost all of what makes up
"christmas" these days...
>�Yuk.
Stop looking into your mirror...
> Good luck with convenience and hypocrisy.
<Massive Moron Projection>
Thank for for that added proof that religion = willful
brain damage...
Andre
Steven L.
news:d0070ece-9387-4fd6...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 24, 9:13�pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 24, 6:59�am, John Harshman <jharsh...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Nashton wrote:
> > > > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > > > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > > > and my family.
> >
> > > > I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> > > > will ever be tortured and abused.
> >
> > > How's that hope working out for you so far? Has god been as kind and
> > > loving to those children and animals as he has been to you and your family?
> >
> > How many orphanages and hospitals have Atheism organizations
> > built as
> > compared to Christian organizations?
>
>
> Many times more, obviously. Most charities simply are atheist.
>
> And most hospitals in the United Kingdom, for example, are built by a-
> theistic local authorities.
>
> > How many feedings of poor people
> > do Atheism organizations conduct as compared to Christian
> > organizations?
>
>
> Many times more, obviously. Mega charities such as Comic Relief and
> Children in Need dwarf most denominational charities.
What percentage of their funding comes from atheists?
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The entire United Nations would not exist at all without the (largely
Christian) United States.
It was the brainchild of Franklin Roosevelt, who was a Christian.
And today, the bulk of funding for the U.N. continues come from the
United States.
Ray Martinez does have a valid point here. The lack of charitable
organizations set up and run by atheists (so they can put their money
where their mouth is) is striking.
Steven L.
What has Christianity done to you personally, to make you so angry at
it?
Steven L.
If you have the guts,
tell African-Americans that Kwanzaa is 90% made up of stuff stolen from
non-African philosophies.
You wouldn't.
Because you're an intellectual bully who only takes on those whom you
know aren't likely to blow your brains out.
Andre Lieven
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
You mistake correlation for causation.
The USSR was a dictatorship. Yet, democracies Allied with it
to fight Naziism. Does that make the USSR a democracy ?
> It was the brainchild of Franklin Roosevelt, who was a Christian.
By that "standard", the Holocaust was a Christian act, because it
was "the brainchild of Hitler, who was a Christian".
It IS possible for Christians to do things where their religion is
wholly *irrelevant*, just as it is possible for atheists to do things
where their atheism is irrelevant to that act, as well.
> And today, the bulk of funding for the U.N. continues come from the
> United States.
So ? Do you wish to argue that US MONEY is "Christian" ? Is
Saudi oil "Muslim" ? Is Alberta oil "christian" ?
You are being quite absurd.
> Ray Martinez does have a valid point here.
No, you and he are being 100% absurd.
>�The lack of charitable
> organizations set up and run by atheists (so they can put their money
> where their mouth is) is striking.
Really ? Given such comments as GHW Bush's line that atheists
aren't US citizens, do you seriously want to propose the bullshit
notion that an *avowedly* atheist charity would be *strongly*
criticised for being atheist by many theists' and their
organisations ?
Better for a charity that hopes to DO something to just leave the
religion OUT of it's work. So, many charities ARE non denominational
and secular.
And, as one atheist, I would be as uncomfortable by an atheist
organisation that tried to tie it's charity TO atheism, just as I, and
a US court, were uncomfortable with a religious body tying it's
charity to it's mission to "win souls for the lard".
http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?47+Duke+L.+J.+785
Andre
Andre Lieven
> "Andre Lieven" <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:28eccaae-a392-4694...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Sox wrote:
> > > "Andre Lieven" <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
Narcissism Projection Alert.
As a functioning human being, I am able to have EMPATHY for
other people than myself. So, in speaking out against injustice and
evil and willful stupidity, I do NOT require that a fist reaches my
own
nose, before I take some notice of it.
> to make you so angry at it?
The Crusades. The Inquisition. 1,000 years of enforced ignorance.
Religion has a LOT to answer for, in the arena of Crimes Against
Humanity.
Andre
Andre Lieven
> "Andre Lieven" <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:a4f69642-76e3-4985...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 29, 2:27�pm, Roger Pearse <roger.pick...@grossly.stoopid> oozed
Why ? Most of the African-Americans I know, have told ME that. Thus,
it seems quite reasonable that they *already know this*...
But, I find it fascinating that you chose that ethnicity to use to
suggest a "threat" to me in my speaking to some members of
it. That shows that you ARE an anti Black Bigot. QED.
> You wouldn't.
> Because you're an intellectual bully who only takes on those whom you
> know aren't likely to blow your brains out.
<Massive Loony Projection>
Andre
alextangent
> "Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
How would you propose it be counted? Donations to charitable causes
rarely come in envelopes marked "From a Jedi/Jew/Baptist/pick your
religion of choice". Given that 62% of those in the UK have no belief
in an god, the odss are high that it's the majority.
>
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> sdlit...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Dick C.
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The lack of atheists that belong to, or would be interested in belonging
to, an atheist orgnization is striking. Besides, atheists donate their
time and money through more conventional means
Atheists are not an organized monolithic group like a christian
denomination. Atheists are such because they do not believe in gods.
No group, no organization, no membership dues, no oaths, no prayers,
nothing. Simply non belief. Not even politics holds us together. We do
not have a positive identifier, only a lack of belief.
--
Dick #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
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Dan Listermann
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Speaking for me, it sucked up a huge amount of my precious childhood's time,
but that is not why I have bad feelings toward it. It is raw superstition
and a waste of humanities time and effort.
.
el cid
> "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > What has Christianity done to you personally, to make you so angry at it?
>
> Speaking for me, it sucked up a huge amount of my precious childhood's time,
> but that is not why I have bad feelings toward it. �It is raw superstition
> and a waste of humanities time and effort.
Out of curiosity, did you feel any cramps or nausea while or
immediately after posting "waste of humanities time and effort"
in a usenet post to talk.origins?
John McKendry
Oh, Steven, doesn't it embarrass you at all to keep parading your
insecurities about the boogeyman like this? A few months ago it was
Those Scary Muslims, now it's Those Scary Black People. Do you really
want to stand up in front of the audience here in t.o. and present
your case that African-Americans will blow your brains out if you
try to insult Kwanzaa?
John
Desertphile
> And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> lot of you. May god be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> and my family.
The gods have never done anything to you or for you.
> I hope that no child will ever die of hunger again and that no animal
> will ever be tortured and abused.
What, besides wishing (i.e., sitting on your fat ass and dothing
nothing) are you doing to make that a reality? Or are you like
every other member of your death cult, who believes just wishing
it is good enough?
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Dan Listermann
"el cid" <elcid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Expand your thoughts please.
.
el cid
> "el cid" <elcidbi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I'm pretty sure that would be a waste of time and effort to attempt
to explain irony to someone who doesn't get it.
Dan Listermann
That is OK with me . . .
.
Roger Pearse
> On Dec 29, 2:27 pm,Roger Pearse<roger.pick...@grossly.stoopid> oozed
> xtain "love":
>
> > On Dec 24, 7:25 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 24, 6:15 am, Nashton <n...@nana.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > And a very merry Christmas to all. Health, joy and prosperity for the
> > > > lot of you. May God be as kind and loving to you as he has been to me
> > > > and my family.
>
> > ><snip snarling>
>
> > > Congratulations on embracing your inner pagan...
>
> > Good luck with conformity and hearsay.
>
Smile.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Andre Lieven
oozed:
The Pearse Daffynition Guide To Hard Words:
"abuse, criticism that the dumbass Roger CANNOT refute."
> Smile.
"Ignorance is bliss." You must be the happiest guy in your
time zone...
Andre