Collagen fibrils were found in Mr. Ed Conrad's fossil, micrographed by Mr. Andrew McRae
Lin Liangtai
micrograph shown at:
http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96-001_ts3.jpeg
That page is an enlarged picture of the following webpage:
http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96001.html
At the bottom of the second webpage above are two pictures placed side
by side for comparison purpose. One shows Mr. Conrad's fossil and the
other shows a dinosaur fossil.In the picture showing Mr. Conrad's
fossil (that is, the first webpage above, one can see collagen fibrils
(mostly deformed) at the right hand side of the picture. That area
shows the most prominent fibrils, while other areas also show
scattered,deformed,
mineralized collagen fibrils.
Lin Liangtai
Marc
Lin Liangtai wrote:
> The deformed mineralized collagen fibrils type I can be seen
You assume that anybody really gives a damn, Ed.
I don't... I didn't ten years ago and it hasn't changed yet.
Find a new sock for your puppet. (Hey - write a paper for
that new PLoS-ONE journal.... no restriction on the finding
and it will be published "scientifically". But I still won't read it.)
(signed) marc
.
Klaus
What makes you think there are fibrils, of any type? All I see are
etched crystalline grains.
Klaus
hbar...@troy.edu
You really should try and gain even a minimal understanding of
microsopy before posting this drivel. The images show nothing that is
remotely interpretable as "collagen", not even "scattered, deformed,
mineralized" collagen (whatever that is!). Nice try though, Ed.
HB
jrs...@sbcglobal.net
"Lin Liangtai" <lin4...@yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
news:1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hey Ed, have you rescheduled your Larry King interview yet? Do you have
anything to offer that isn't as old as fucking coal?
Lying for Jesus is a sin...but you knew that.
>
Milan
"Lin Liangtai" <lin4...@yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
news:1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The A1 motorway is made of collagen!
regards
Milan
Rolf
"Lin Liangtai" <lin4...@yahoo.com.tw> skrev i melding
news:1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Wouldn't it be more fitting if you actually studied whatver specimen this is
all about, instead of telling us about your own subjective and decidedly
non-scientific interpretation of photographs?
Rolf
Jeffrey Turner
Drive it regularly and keep your tyres young and supple.
--Jeff
--
The shepherd always tries to persuade
the sheep that their interests and
his own are the same. --Stendhal
Scooter the Mighty
They don't look anything like the dinosaur fossil, and Andrew McRae did
not believe them to be bone, and being the sock puppet of a loony is
slightly more pathetic than being your own individual loon.
Desertphile
Ed, you have been banned from talk.origins for the crime of avoiding
everyone's killfiles. Why are you still posting to talk.origins,
knowing you have been banned?
David Iain Greig
I dunt fink its Ed.
--d. 'so.'
ind...@yahoo.com
David Iain Greig のメッセージ:
How come? No poems?
Cleve
Augray
<dgr...@ediacara.org> wrote in
<cabal-slrnepv...@darwin.ediacara.org> :
I'm convinced that Lin Liangtai isn't Ed.
John Vreeland
opined:
Me too. Ling Liangti has a history here. Probably not Ed. Usually
asks questions, though not this time. Questions like, "Is this (lump
of flint) a fossilized human eyeball?"
Then again, I don't recall Ling Liangto ever responding to our
answers, so maybe they are meant to be rhetorical questions.
--
Two Creation Scientists can hold an intelligent conversation, if one of them is a sock puppet.
John.Vreeland (for less spam, use IEEE, not eye tripoli)
Augray
wrote in <1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> :
What reason is there to believe that these are collagen fibrils?
>Lin Liangtai
Lin Liangtai
> "LinLiangtai" <lin440...@yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -
OK. They were collagen fibers, not collagen fibrils.
Let a histologist and Mr. Andrew MacRae say something.
Are they all speechless now?
RAM
The real issue is?
Ed wanting attention.
Does this help?
Desertphile
<lin4...@yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> OK. They were collagen fibers, not collagen fibrils.
> Let a histologist and Mr. Andrew MacRae say something.
> Are they all speechless now?
Ed, why are you posting in talk.origins? If I had been banned like
you have been, I would have the moral and ethical and spiritual
strength to accept that ban and cease posting to talk.origins, or
I would ask the moderator for forgiveness and promise to not
name-shift again.
Why, do you suppose, am I (a Wiccan) morally and ethically and
spiritually superior to you?
--
"I would find religious conflict much more amusing if
they were really peace-loving." -- Greg G.
John Vreeland
>On 1??5??, ?U??10??46??, "Milan" <mtkl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "LinLiangtai" <lin440...@yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > The deformed mineralized collagen fibrils type I can be seen in the
>> > micrograph shown at:
>> >http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96-001_ts3.jpeg
>> > That page is an enlarged picture of the following webpage:
>> >http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96001.html
>>
>> > At the bottom of the second webpage above are two pictures placed side
>> > by side for comparison purpose. One shows Mr. Conrad's fossil and the
>> > other shows a dinosaur fossil.In the picture showing Mr. Conrad's
>> > fossil (that is, the first webpage above, one can see collagen fibrils
>> > (mostly deformed) at the right hand side of the picture. That area
>> > shows the most prominent fibrils, while other areas also show
>> > scattered,deformed,
>> > mineralized collagen fibrils.
>>
>> >LinLiangtai
>>
>> The A1 motorway is made of collagen!
>>
>> regards
>> Milan- ?????Q???????r -
>>
>> - ?????Q???????r -
>
>OK. They were collagen fibers, not collagen fibrils.
>Let a histologist and Mr. Andrew MacRae say something.
>Are they all speechle
There is a very simple and direct way to identify collagen fibers. The
fibrils show a periodic axial banding on the order of 70nm. Show us
that and we might start to take you seriously.
--
John.Vreeland (IEEE.orc) IEEE/AAAS/NSCE
Lin Liangtai
> "Lin Liangtai" <lin440...@yahoo.com.tw> skrev i meldingnews:1167990316.9...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > The deformed mineralized collagen fibrils type I can be seen in the
> > micrograph shown at:
> >http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96-001_ts3.jpeg
> > That page is an enlarged picture of the following webpage:
> >http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/th96001.html
>
> > At the bottom of the second webpage above are two pictures placed side
> > other shows a dinosaur fossil.In the picture showing Mr.Conrad's
> > fossil (that is, the first webpage above, one can see collagen fibrils
> > (mostly deformed) at the right hand side of the picture. That area
> > shows the most prominent fibrils, while other areas also show
> > scattered,deformed,
> > mineralized collagen fibrils.
>
> > Lin Liangtai
>
> Wouldn't it be more fitting if you actually studied whatver specimen this is
> all about, instead of telling us about your own subjective and decidedly
> non-scientific interpretation of photographs?
>
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -
For the sake of objective scientific comparison,
here are a few links on collagen, etc.
http://www.visualsunlimited.com/results.jsp?key=collagen&start=18&number=18&type=and
The link shows 47 photos of collagen. The last
third photo (SEM photo at about 1800X) looks closely
like my SEM photo (at 700X) when you consider
that Ed's fossil collagen has been severely
fragmented into very short pieces.
C:\Documents and Settings\K8-A64-3G\桌面\Unknowns Bone.htm
Lin Liangtai
> On 2 Mar 2007 07:53:39 -0800, "LinLiangtai" <lin440...@yahoo.com.tw>
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -
Couldn't you claim they were mammalian,
instead of human, collagen fibrils if I
show you the periodic cross-bands of 67 nm in
Ed's fosssil?
Lin Liangtai
John Vreeland
opined:
>> Two Creation Scientists can hold an intelligent conversation, if one of them is a sock puppet.- ?????Q???????r -
>>
>> - ?????Q???????r -
>
>Couldn't you claim they were mammalian,
>instead of human, collagen fibrils if I
>show you the periodic cross-bands of 67 nm in
>Ed's fosssil?
>Lin Liangtai
>
Let me clue you in, Ed. Nobody here believes your samples are even
from any living thing. We all think you are completely loony and that
you have a knack for misidentifying random lumps that you find walking
around the yard. Any evidence which might indicate that your bizarre
fantasies were somehow connected to reality, even by the slenderest
thread, would be refreshing.
Anyway, I should just invoke Formosa's law and be done with you.
Desertphile
<vree...@snotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6 Mar 2007 03:13:25 -0800, "Lin Liangtai" (Ed Conrad)
> <lin4...@yahoo.com.tw> opined:
> >Couldn't you claim they were mammalian,
> >instead of human, collagen fibrils if I
> >show you the periodic cross-bands of 67 nm in
> >Ed's fosssil?
> >Lin Liangtai (Ed Conrad)
> Let me clue you in, Ed. Nobody here believes your samples are even
> from any living thing. We all think you are completely loony and that
> you have a knack for misidentifying random lumps that you find walking
> around the yard. Any evidence which might indicate that your bizarre
> fantasies were somehow connected to reality, even by the slenderest
> thread, would be refreshing.
>
> Anyway, I should just invoke Formosa's law and be done with you.
Every time I walk west to check the fences I come across rocks
just like Ed's rocks (oops! I mean "Lin's" rocks): streaks and
specks of red that look a little like blood. They are in no way
different than Lin's rocks (er, I mean "Ed's" rocks): they are
utterly identical except for shape. Maybe I should send a few
hundred tons to him, postage due, so that he can perform more
amazing medical research upon them.
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