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Frank J

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Dec 25, 2009, 8:54:57 AM12/25/09
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Looks like another year that Santa did not leave your paper under my
tree. Any chance you'll scoop these guys, whose "baraminology" book
is scheduled to be published in February, 2043?

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/12/baraminologists.html#comments

Ron O

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:30:29 AM12/25/09
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The ID perps crucified intelligent design and started running the bait
and switch scam on the faithful in 2003, but ID will rise again after
40 dark years wandering in the wilderness. The demise of Darwinism
will occur right after the publication of this earth shattering book.
The faithful that took the switch scam will be rewarded by being left
behind in the rapture to follow (you really don't want to go where the
guys that kept believing in or selling the ID scam are going).

These guys are trying to make fun of the creationists, but the next 40
years will just bring more stupidity than they could ever dream up.
Anyone want to bet?

Ron Okimoto

Rolf

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Dec 26, 2009, 6:45:43 AM12/26/09
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Santa left
"The Emergence of Life on Earth" by Iris Fry,
"The Riddled Chain" by Jeffrey K. McKee
under MY tree.

They contain all the evidence he needs for his paper.

Back to reading...


Ray Martinez

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Dec 26, 2009, 4:49:08 PM12/26/09
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As I said in a recent on-going topic: I am working full time on my
project, having the resources. 2010 is looking real good. Remember: I
possess scientific evidence that will destroy ToE. Evolution is but a
schism. Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution it
will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated. The
only thing left to answer will be: how did fraud prosper for over 150
years? Of course I will answer this question too.

And may I remind that "baraminology" is pseudoscience, so called
"baraminologists" are evolutionists----the Fundies are in YOUR
mutability bed, LOL!

They are licking your asses, LOL!

Happy New Year, Frank!

Ray (immutabilist)

Greg G.

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Dec 26, 2009, 5:16:00 PM12/26/09
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On Dec 26, 4:49�pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 5:54�am, Frank J <f...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Looks like another year that Santa did not leave your paper under my
> > tree. �Any chance you'll scoop these guys, whose "baraminology" book
> > is scheduled to be published in February, 2043?
>
> >http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/12/baraminologists.html#comments
>
> As I said in a recent on-going topic: I am working full time on my
> project, having the resources. 2010 is looking real good. Remember: I
> possess scientific evidence that will destroy ToE. Evolution is but a
> schism. Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution it
> will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated. The
> only thing left to answer will be: how did fraud prosper for over 150
> years? Of course I will answer this question too.

If you answer that question, too, what are you going to do for an
encore? You should publish what you have now, then follow it up with
that explanation after you are famous.

Dan Listermann

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Dec 26, 2009, 5:49:43 PM12/26/09
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"Ray Martinez" <pyram...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:718bda93-abc8-4077...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

>
> As I said in a recent on-going topic: I am working full time on my
> project, having the resources. 2010 is looking real good. Remember: I
> possess scientific evidence that will destroy ToE. Evolution is but a
> schism. Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution it
> will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated. The
> only thing left to answer will be: how did fraud prosper for over 150
> years? Of course I will answer this question too.
>

I hear that there are these guys who think that they are French Emperors.


.

Frank J

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:57:39 AM12/27/09
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On Dec 26, 4:49�pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I notice that when you say the "in your camp" (or synonym like the
above) you always refer to "Fundies," at least in the 4-5 examples I
have seen. Never "creationists" or "self-described creationists," even
though you know that they always call themselves that, or "design
proponents" for those cdesign proponentsists who still try to avoid
the C-word. If by "Fundies" you mean something other than the usual
Christian/Jewish/Muslim YECs, OECs and IDers, please correct me.

>
> They are licking your asses, LOL!
>
> Happy New Year, Frank!
>
> Ray (immutabilist)

Happy New Year (and decade) to you.


Frank J

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:10:11 AM12/27/09
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As you know, he'll have to keep showing how evidence converges on his
explanation, how it makes testable predictions that passes the tests,
etc. IOW, as you say, his work will have just begun. If he thinks
anyone will want to keep hearing him "beat the dead horse" of "ToE"
he'll be in for a rude awakening.

You might like *my* encore better. He has already admitted (in
curiously paraphrased wording) that his "theory" will not only expose
"ToE" as "150 years of fraud," but YEC, OEC and ID as well. I, if no
one else, will make sure that no one forgets that. With the DI, AIG
and other pseudoscience outfits confined to the same dustbin as Flat
Earthism in the public's mind, I will have all sorts of questions
about Ray's new theory. None of them will have anything to do with
"weaknesses" or "implications" of "Darwinism," and all of them will
have to do with "what happened when" accodring to his "theory." I'm
especially interested in those earlier biospheres that he hinted about
but ignored all my questions about *when* they occurred and what
"kinds" of life they included.

Mike Lyle

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:44:05 AM12/27/09
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Ray Martinez wrote:
[...]

> Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution it
> will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated.

In which case, it will hardly constitute an unquestionable example of
perpetuation.
[...]

--
Mike.


TomS

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:37:23 AM12/27/09
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"On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:10:11 -0800 (PST), in article
<7eac1db5-8c9b-43bb...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, Frank J
stated..."

A helpful hint for Ray, or for anyone else who is thinking of an
alternative to evolution. Remember your high school English
composition class, and the "6 Ws": Who, What, Where, When, Why,
How.


--
---Tom S.
the failure to nail currant jelly to a wall is not due to the nail; it is due to
the currant jelly.
Theodore Roosevelt, Letter to William Thayer, 1915 July 2

Ye Old One

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:50:17 AM12/27/09
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:49:08 -0800 (PST), Ray Martinez
<pyram...@yahoo.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>On Dec 25, 5:54�am, Frank J <f...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Looks like another year that Santa did not leave your paper under my
>> tree. �Any chance you'll scoop these guys, whose "baraminology" book
>> is scheduled to be published in February, 2043?
>>
>> http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/12/baraminologists.html#comments
>
>As I said in a recent on-going topic: I am working full time on my
>project,

No you are not, you are still posting here.

>having the resources. 2010 is looking real good. Remember: I
>possess scientific evidence that will destroy ToE.

Delusions.

> Evolution is but a
>schism. Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution it
>will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated.

Liar!

> The
>only thing left to answer will be: how did fraud prosper for over 150
>years? Of course I will answer this question too.
>
>And may I remind that "baraminology" is pseudoscience, so called
>"baraminologists" are evolutionists----the Fundies are in YOUR
>mutability bed, LOL!
>
>They are licking your asses, LOL!
>
>Happy New Year, Frank!
>
>Ray (immutabilist)

and total crackpot.


--
Bob.

People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
always remember just how bright you made them feel.

Rolf

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Dec 29, 2009, 4:57:07 AM12/29/09
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Ray Martinez wrote:
> On Dec 25, 5:54 am, Frank J <f...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Looks like another year that Santa did not leave your paper under my
>> tree. Any chance you'll scoop these guys, whose "baraminology" book
>> is scheduled to be published in February, 2043?
>>
>> http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/12/baraminologists.html#comments
>
> As I said in a recent on-going topic: I am working full time on my
> project, having the resources.

What resources?

2010 is looking real good. Remember: I
> possess scientific evidence that will destroy ToE.

What evidence?

Do you know what evidence is?

Evolution is but a
> schism.

How do you know?


Since no evidence exists supporting the claims of evolution

How do you know?


it
> will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetuated.

Don't sell the bear skin before you've shot the bear.

The
> only thing left to answer will be: how did fraud prosper for over 150
> years? Of course I will answer this question too.
>

Nonsense.

> And may I remind that "baraminology" is pseudoscience, so called
> "baraminologists" are evolutionists----the Fundies are in YOUR
> mutability bed, LOL!
>

Are you nuts? (You are!)

> They are licking your asses, LOL!
>
> Happy New Year, Frank!
>
> Ray (immutabilist)

We note with satisfaction that you never report any progress in your work.
Are you below or above 0.1% finished?


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