Fraud in Science - Which is Coolest?
Mitchell Coffey
1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
Mitchell Coffey
John S. Wilkins
> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>
2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
keeping it for their own family and friends.
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre
Jeffrey Turner
> Mitchell Coffey<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
Really? I'd heard herbalists know how to cure most cancers but doctors
are keeping that from you because they want to sell more pills.
--Jeff
Mike Painter
Pepetual motion machines exist but science keeps them hidden
Over energy devices exist for a short time but engineers keep hooking the
output to the input and they explode.
People who believe in them exist and scientists keep trying to explain.
I actually have a book with "50 Pepetual Motion Machines" in it.
The older tend to be water based and many actually have patents on them. The
newer ones have magnets involved and there are several of the rolling ball
type.
Garamond Lethe
> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
>> is,
>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
3. Computer scientists worked out long ago how to provide reliable,
error-free, intuitive functionality at next-to-no cost. Unfortunately
we're also a bunch of sadistic sons of bitches.
Roy Culley
"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
> Pepetual motion machines exist but science keeps them hidden Over
> energy devices exist for a short time but engineers keep hooking the
> output to the input and they explode.
>
> People who believe in them exist and scientists keep trying to
> explain.
>
> I actually have a book with "50 Pepetual Motion Machines" in it.
> The older tend to be water based and many actually have patents on
> them. The newer ones have magnets involved and there are several of
> the rolling ball type.
As Uncle Al on sci.physics was fond of saying:
1) First Law of Thermodynamics: You cannot win.
2) Second Law of Thermodynamics: You can only break even on a very
cold day.
3) Third Law of Thermodynamics: It never gets that cold.
J. J. Lodder
And incompetents.
It is axiomatic that
1) Every computer program contains at least one error.
2) Every computer program can be shortened by at least one line.
Hence, by induction, every computer program
can be shortened to one line, which is wrong,
Jan
J. J. Lodder
A man named Dircx catalogued all know designs (�1850)
to keep aspiring young men from wasting effort.
(reprinted as a Dover Book)
Little new since,
Jan
quantum.dotproduct
My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its D.N.A.
Nuff-said.
Burkhard
was caught by the assassins of the life insurance branch of Lloyd's of
London, and incarcerated in a hidden vault in the Tower. Lloyd's gets
�30m per annum from Vichy cosmetics to keep him locked up.
Arkalen
could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about fraud.
What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
Roger Shrubber
No, because despite her promising start, she has registered
http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/
for self-promotion.
The Sith have recruited another.
J. J. Lodder
Must be the dungeon that's lit by the everlasting light bulb
that Philips and friends forgot about,
Jan
Walter Bushell
Actually by induction we can show that computer programs could be
arbitrarily reduced to zero lines and even less. Then when you run out
of ram or disk space you could add a negative length program and have
extra room.
--
The Chinese pretend their goods are good and we pretend our money
is good, or is it the reverse?
quantum.dotproduct
> On 04/08/11 10:19, quantum.dotproduct wrote:
>> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
..
>> My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
>> name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
>>
>>
>> She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its
>> D.N.A.
>>
>> Nuff-said.
>>
> From all I've heard about that story they overstated the conclusions one
> could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about fraud.
http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
That is fraud.
> What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
Steven L.
"Garamond Lethe" <cartogr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:XJp_p.26912$wc1....@newsfe04.iad:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>
> > Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
> >> is,
> >> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> >>
> > 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> > keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
> 3. Computer scientists worked out long ago how to provide reliable,
> error-free, intuitive functionality at next-to-no cost.
In the 1980s, I remember there was a company marketing a software tool
that they claimed would accomplish exactly this: "100 million lines of
code with zero errors!"
When they tried to give us a demo of their software tool, it crashed.
-- Steven L.
Steven L.
"J. J. Lodder" <jjl...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:1k5h0dz.tuk...@de-ster.xs4all.nl:
You've never programmed in APL language, I see.
I once wrote an entire Algol parser in one line of APL. Of course, that
line was hundreds of characters long.
-- Steven L.
Arkalen
> On 04/08/2011 11:30, Arkalen wrote:
>> On 04/08/11 10:19, quantum.dotproduct wrote:
>>> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> ..
> ..
>
>>> My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
>>> name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
>>>
>>>
>>> She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its
>>> D.N.A.
>>>
>>> Nuff-said.
>>>
>> From all I've heard about that story they overstated the conclusions one
>> could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about
>> fraud.
>
> http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
>
> That is fraud.
Repeated assertion of your original assertion isn't an adequate response
to my comment.
>
>
>> What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
>
>
> Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
>
So how can a woman commit fraud ?
Steven L.
"Mitchell Coffey" <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>
> Mitchell Coffey
A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing it.
-- Steven L.
jillery
That and the 100mpg carburetor.
r norman
No contradiction there.
First, their software was less than 100 million lines of code and so
it doesn't disprove the claim.
Second, they didn't have the tool when they built the tool so the tool
itself needn't have zero errors.
It is simple to write a tool that generates 100 million lines of code
with zero errors. The problem is that the resulting code has nothing
to do with the job you need done.
r norman
One more step and the program becomes zero lines.
Mitchell Coffey
>
>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
Nope: They're keeping it for their girlfriends so their wives don't find
out.
Mitchell
Vincent Maycock
"quantum.dotproduct" <quantum.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8Ov_p.88904$r52....@newsfe02.ams2...
> http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
>
> That is fraud.
>
>
>> What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
>
>
> Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
Is that a description of you, dot product?
Robert Weldon
news:8Ov_p.88904$r52....@newsfe02.ams2...
So, that means that you are the poster child of "fraud" then?
Vincent Maycock
Is this supposed to be a roundabout way of expressing your creationist
views? That is, are you implying that the stunning successes
of evolutionary science are really fraudulent?
Chris Thompson
jo...@wilkins.id.au:
> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
Is this fraud or just conspiracy theory?
3. Imams in Nigeria advised parents against having their kids vaccinated
against polio because the US had included chemicals that would make them
sterile.
Chris
Earle Jones
jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote:
> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> > but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> >
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
*
3. All Indians walk in single-file.
At least the one I knew did.
earle
*
Paul J Gans
Yeah, and you keep leaving back doors in operating systems.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Paul J Gans
>On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>>> Mitchell Coffey<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
>>>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>>>
>>> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
>>> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>>
>> Really? I'd heard herbalists know how to cure most cancers but doctors
>> are keeping that from you because they want to sell more pills.
>>
>> --Jeff
>>
>London, and incarcerated in a hidden vault in the Tower. Lloyd's gets
>£30m per annum from Vichy cosmetics to keep him locked up.
I'd think that he'd be much in need of cosmetics... ;-)
r norman
Blame sales for demanding a release date before the alpha test is even
scheduled. "That's OK. We;ll just send you the user complaints and
save a bundle on in-house tests!"
Paul J Gans
>for self-promotion.
I'd urge patience. This isn't over yet and is typical of most
new discoveries and many non-discoveries as well.
It is possible that she and here several co-workers are right.
It is possible that they have overinterpreted their evidence, which
looks rather good.
It is possible that some horrible error exists in their experiments.
And there are other possibilities too.
Nobody at this time is suggesting fraud.
Paul J Gans
Paul J Gans
>On 04/08/2011 11:30, Arkalen wrote:
>> On 04/08/11 10:19, quantum.dotproduct wrote:
>>> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>..
>..
>>> My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
>>> name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
>>>
>>>
>>> She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its
>>> D.N.A.
>>>
>>> Nuff-said.
>>>
>> From all I've heard about that story they overstated the conclusions one
>> could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about fraud.
>http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
>That is fraud.
How do you know? Do you have expertize in the field?
>> What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
>Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
Well, that lets her out, doesn't it. Further, that paper has 11
authors. Are they all lying sons of bitches?
You are one rather useless piece of humanity.
Paul J Gans
>No contradiction there.
You can't have everything for cheap.
Paul J Gans
That's ok. They then moved customer service to some island
nation in a long forgotten sea where the locals speak no known
language.
But they are very cheerful.
Paul J Gans
All zero line programs are error free.
William Morse
> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
>>> Mitchell Coffey<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
>>>> is,
>>>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>>>
>>> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
>>> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>>
>> are keeping that from you because they want to sell more pills.
>>
>> --Jeff
>>
> was caught by the assassins of the life insurance branch of Lloyd's of
> London, and incarcerated in a hidden vault in the Tower. Lloyd's gets
> �30m per annum from Vichy cosmetics to keep him locked up.
>
you become an exquisite corpse?
William Morse
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
>>> is,
>>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>>
>> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
>> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
> error-free, intuitive functionality at next-to-no cost. Unfortunately
> we're also a bunch of sadistic sons of bitches.
>
next 1000 years, but if they published it, nobody would pay them anymore
to predict the weather.
Mark Isaak
But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
r norman
I actually heard a weathercaster say on a broadcast in Southern
California "Today will be warm and sunny. I don't know why they pay
us -- it is always warm and sunny. In other parts of the country
....."
*Hemidactylus*
--
*Hemidactylus*
J. J. Lodder
Perhaps not, but Americans do believe
that you can have everyting on credit,
(which you pay back with more credit)
Jan
Jeffrey Turner
I just checked the five-day forecast for San Diego. Maximum
temperatures run: 76, 77, 77, 77, 78. And two days of "Partly Cloudy"
followed by three days of "AM Clouds/PM Sun." Can there be a duller
job than forecasting that weather?
--Jeff
Mitchell Coffey
You haven't been following American politics, have you? It's not assumed
by all parties here that the government has to pay it back?
Mitchell Coffey
Mitchell Coffey
In "LA Story" Steven Martin played a TV weatherman who'd film his
reports three days in advance so he could get away over the weekend.
Mitchell
Chris Thompson
news:N8-dnZWZoO6PfabT...@posted.localnet:
Looking it up to post on Usenet?
Chris
r norman
Checking your facts before posting truly is a deadful precedent. Has
it ever happened before?
Chris Thompson
news:hp2o37hlp2vrkf3tp...@4ax.com:
^^^^^^^
> it ever happened before?
>
>
>
>
Are you implying J J Lodder is a zombie?
Well, better he is posting on Usenet than eating brains, I guess.
Chris
Chris Thompson
news:1k5ivtv.ul...@de-ster.xs4all.nl:
Per Heinlein:
Cheap, fast, good.
You get to pick two out of three.
Chris
Chris Thompson
We are going to pay it back by letting inflation run rampant.
That way, the price of our bonds will go up in the near term, but the
bonds we issued in the last 10 years will be worthless.
Don't you know even the basics of economics?
;)
Chris
Mitchell Coffey
On Usenet it's sort of a mutual consumption.
Mitchell
J. J. Lodder
Indeed I am.
Check the refs headers for this sub-thread: I'm not there,
Jan
Paul J Gans
Walter Bushell's sig covers it all... ;-)
William Morse
John S. Wilkins
> On 8/4/11 3:42 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > Steven L.<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> "Mitchell Coffey"<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> >>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Coffey
> >
> >> A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
> >> ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing it.
> >
> > And the perfect lubricant, ditto.
>
> But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
> classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
> get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
I ordered an infinite frictionless plane to demonstrate Newton's First
Law (it was going to be a long class) but I couldn't get it delivered.
It wouldn't fit into a Post Office approved packet.
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre
Garamond Lethe
> Mark Isaak <eci...@curioustaxonomyNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/11 3:42 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> > Steven L.<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> "Mitchell Coffey"<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
>> >
>> >>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark
>> >>> matter is,
>> >>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be
>> >>> dicks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mitchell Coffey
>> >
>> >> A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
>> >> ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing
>> >> it.
>> >
>> > And the perfect lubricant, ditto.
>>
>> But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
>> classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
>> get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
>
> I ordered an infinite frictionless plane to demonstrate Newton's First
> Law (it was going to be a long class) but I couldn't get it delivered.
> It wouldn't fit into a Post Office approved packet.
I could have sent you the packing material from my perfectly spherical
Jesus.
John S. Wilkins
r norman
The infinite plane would have fit but the post office requires that
you seal it to separate the contents from the outside world.
J. J. Lodder
> On 8/4/11 3:42 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > Steven L.<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> "Mitchell Coffey"<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> >>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Coffey
> >
> >> A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
> >> ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing it.
> >
> > And the perfect lubricant, ditto.
>
> But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
> classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
> get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
High school kids need lubricants these days?
What is the world coming to?
Jan
Mitchell Coffey
When did you guys become Platonists?
> Silly me: all I needed was a Klein Envelope! Oh well...
http://www.bathsheba.com/math/klein/
Of course, as is typical these days, both those websites are one-sided.
Mitchell
r norman
The Klein bottle is also non-orientable so you can't mail it to Japan
or China.
Jeffrey Turner
Moebius just a passing phase.
--Jeff
Paul J Gans
It would have been too small.
James Beck
<cartogr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
>>> is,
>>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>>
>> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
>> keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
>3. Computer scientists worked out long ago how to provide reliable,
>error-free, intuitive functionality at next-to-no cost. Unfortunately
>we're also a bunch of sadistic sons of bitches.
4. In a plot by scientists to reinvigorate public interest in the
space program, NASA hired Ron Howard (then a student at the UCLA Film
School) to fake the Apollo 13 accident. In exchange, NASA agreed to
support his efforts to make a film drama out of the incident later.
Mitchell Coffey
5. In January 1969 CIA scientists, as result of a mass experiment
intended to test whether the Soviet Union could introduce LSD into the
entire U.S. water supply, accidentally introduced LSD into the entire
U.S. water supply. The effects were many and subtle, but to summarize,
it appears Hubert Humphrey in fact won the 1968 election and all six
years of the Nixon Presidency were a mass hallucinations.
Mitchell Coffey
James Beck
Cool, man. Cool...
Steven L.
"James Beck" <jdbec...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sgnr371fscsa1sdci...@4ax.com:
Something similar to that was the plot of a Hollywood movie, "Capricorn
One," in which NASA fakes the first manned landing on Mars, filming the
whole thing in a studio.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077294/
-- Steven L.
James Beck
I remember the film; however, while it's easy to understand why
someone might create propaganda by faking success, it's cooler to
justify the creation of propaganda by faking failure.
Mike Dworetsky
And "Moon Hoaxers" who claim that NASA faked the Apollo landings, cite the
fictitious film story "Capricorn One" as proof that the scenes on the Moon
could be faked in a studio.
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)
John S. Wilkins
They didn't in your day? The world must have come to nothing, then.
Walter Bushell
jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote:
> J. J. Lodder <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > Mark Isaak <eci...@curioustaxonomyNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/4/11 3:42 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > > Steven L.<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> "Mitchell Coffey"<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
> > > >
> > > >>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
> > > >>> is,
> > > >>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be
> > > >>> dicks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mitchell Coffey
> > > >
> > > >> A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
> > > >> ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing
> > > >> it.
> > > >
> > > > And the perfect lubricant, ditto.
> > >
> > > But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
> > > classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
> > > get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
> >
> > High school kids need lubricants these days?
> > What is the world coming to?
> >
> They didn't in your day? The world must have come to nothing, then.
They still go to Firestone Drive, "Where the rubber meets the road."
--
The Chinese pretend their goods are good and we pretend our money
is good, or is it the reverse?
J. J. Lodder
> J. J. Lodder <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > Mark Isaak <eci...@curioustaxonomyNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/4/11 3:42 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > > Steven L.<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> "Mitchell Coffey"<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me:
> > > >
> > > >>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark
> > > >>> matter is, but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves
> > > >>> just to be dicks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mitchell Coffey
> > > >
> > > >> A famous one is the inventor who designed an engine that runs on
> > > >> ordinary water ("Mr. Water"), but the oil companies are suppressing it.
> > > >
> > > > And the perfect lubricant, ditto.
> > >
> > > But the perfect lubricant must be available to high school physics
> > > classes, for them to produce the frictionless planes. I suspect they
> > > get weightless ropes from the same supplier.
> >
> > High school kids need lubricants these days?
> > What is the world coming to?
> >
> They didn't in your day? The world must have come to nothing, then.
But I was so much older then...
Jan
Steven L.
"jtu...@alum.rpi.edu" <jtu...@alum.rpi.edu> wrote in message
news:N8-dnZWZoO6PfabT...@posted.localnet:
> On 8/4/2011 10:26 PM, r norman wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:56:35 -0400, William Morse
> > <wdNOSP...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/04/2011 01:02 AM, Garamond Lethe wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Mitchell Coffey<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter
> >>>>> is,
> >>>>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> >>>>>
> >>>> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> >>>> keeping it for their own family and friends.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Computer scientists worked out long ago how to provide reliable,
> >>> error-free, intuitive functionality at next-to-no cost. Unfortunately
> >>> we're also a bunch of sadistic sons of bitches.
> >>>
> >> 4. Meteorologists actually know exactly what the weather will be for the
> >> next 1000 years, but if they published it, nobody would pay them anymore
> >> to predict the weather.
> >
> > I actually heard a weathercaster say on a broadcast in Southern
> > California "Today will be warm and sunny. I don't know why they pay
> > us -- it is always warm and sunny. In other parts of the country
> > ....."
>
> I just checked the five-day forecast for San Diego. Maximum
> temperatures run: 76, 77, 77, 77, 78. And two days of "Partly Cloudy"
> followed by three days of "AM Clouds/PM Sun." Can there be a duller
> job than forecasting that weather?
Yep.
Here's the extended forecast for Death Valley CA:
Wednesday 8/10: Sunny, high 118.
Thursday 8/11: Sunny, high 115.
Friday 8/12: Mostly sunny, high 117.
Saturday 8/13: Sunny, high 116.
Sunday 8/15: Sunny, high 115.
Monday 8/16: Sunny, high 116.
Tuesday 8/17: Sunny, high 116.
http://www.weather.com/weather/narrative/USCA0286
-- Steven L.
Ron O
wrote:
> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>
The ID perps at the Discovery Institute really do have all the
wonderful intelligent design science to teach to school kids, but they
are running the bait and switch on their creationist supporters for
giggles. They like to see the creationist rubes bend over and take a
switch scam that doesn't even mention that ID ever existed.
When you look at it from the creationist perspective intelligent
design has been the biggest scientific fraud in the last couple
hundred years. Scientists don't look at it as scientific fraud
because it never really was any science worth talking about, but for
the creationist rubes that believed the lies it is fraud.
Ron Okimoto
AGWFacts
Wilkins) wrote:
> Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> > but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> keeping it for their own family and friends.
Albert Einstein recanted General Relativity on his death bed; he
confessed to Lady Hope that "I was young and foolish when I
proposed General Relativity--- and now they're made a religion out
of it!"
Meanwhile NASA has admitted the current global temperature anomaly
isn't really happening, but was a fluke caused by one of the old
Intel 80x386 math coprocessor with a faulty value for Pi.
Burkhard
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, j...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
>
> Wilkins) wrote:
> > Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> > > but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> > 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> > keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
> Albert Einstein recanted General Relativity on his death bed; he
> confessed to Lady Hope that "I was young and foolish when I
> proposed General Relativity--- and now they're made a religion out
> of it!"
General relativity was subsequently demoted to Colonel relativity
Stuart
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:52:56 +1000, j...@wilkins.id.au (John S.
>
> Wilkins) wrote:
> > Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> > > but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
> > 2. Medical researchers worked out how to cure most cancers, but they are
> > keeping it for their own family and friends.
>
> Albert Einstein recanted General Relativity on his death bed; he
> confessed to Lady Hope that "I was young and foolish when I
> proposed General Relativity--- and now they're made a religion out
> of it!"
>
> Meanwhile NASA has admitted the current global temperature anomaly
> isn't really happening, but was a fluke caused by one of the old
> Intel 80x386 math coprocessor with a faulty value for Pi.
No, it had faulty double precision.
pay attention.
Stuart
Schenck
wrote:
> On 04/08/2011 11:30, Arkalen wrote:> On 04/08/11 10:19, quantum.dotproduct wrote:
> >> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> >>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
>
> ..
> ..
>
> >> My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
> >> name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
>
> >> She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its
> >> D.N.A.
>
> >> Nuff-said.
>
> > �From all I've heard about that story they overstated the conclusions one
> > could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about fraud.
>
> http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
>
> That is fraud.
>
> > What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
>
> Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
Wow, you're a douche. At absolute worst, she's /wrong/, not a fraud,
and not incompetent. THe people saying she (and the rest of the team)
are wrong are in two basic camps, one says 'arsenate just can't exist
long enough to do that, period' and the other says 'you're
experimental setup was insufficient', she clearly wasn't a fraud, nor
a liar.
Its utterly ironic that a MORON like you would call her ignorant, and
your use of 'bitch' to describe a perfectly nice and intelligent
person just reinforces that, you "Particle-physicist-cum-stock-brocker-
in-my-spare-time" my ass.
Schenck
> No, because despite her promising start, she has registeredhttp://www.felisawolfesimon.com/
>
> for self-promotion.
>
> The Sith have recruited another.
Are you kidding? Do you know how many researchers have their own
webpages? We'd be better off if /MORE/ researchers had their own
webpages that linked to pdf's of their research and blogged about
their research.
How is having a webpage much 'self-promotion' anyway? Did she pay to
have google-ads direct people to her page? Cuz that'd be promotion,
not simply having a webpage. yeesh.
John S. Wilkins
> > Albert Einstein recanted General Relativity on his death bed; he
> > confessed to Lady Hope that "I was young and foolish when I
> > proposed General Relativity--- and now they're made a religion out
> > of it!"
>
>
> General relativity was subsequently demoted to Colonel relativity
Kleuskes & Moos
> quantum.dotproduct <quantum.dotprod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 04/08/2011 11:30, Arkalen wrote:
> >> On 04/08/11 10:19, quantum.dotproduct wrote:
> >>> On 04/08/2011 04:23, Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> >>>> On 8/3/2011 8:52 PM, John S. Wilkins wrote:
> >..
> >..
> >>> My Favorite was the fraud of a young NASA microbial geo-biologist by the
> >>> name of "Felisa Wolfe-Simon".
>
> >>> She claimed a bacteria incorporated Arsenic, into the backbone of its
> >>> D.N.A.
>
> >>> Nuff-said.
>
> >> From all I've heard about that story they overstated the conclusions one
> >> could draw from their experiments but I never heard anyone talk about fraud.
> >http://www.felisawolfesimon.com/papers/WolfeSimon_etal_Science2010.pdf
> >That is fraud.
>
>
> >> What does "fraud" mean to you anyway ?
> >Being a lying ignorant son of a bitch.
>
> authors. Are they all lying sons of bitches?
>
> You are one rather useless piece of humanity.
I beg to differ. He provides huge amounts of entertainment value and
hence provides a useful stress-relieve mechanism. Useless to science,
logic and reason? Yes, but not in general.
Walter Bushell
<82d3ae30-1aa5-4509...@p19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Burkhard <b.sc...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> General relativity was subsequently demoted to Colonel relativity
And henceforth resided in the kernel of the group of theories.
Walter Bushell
Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>
> Mitchell Coffey
Perhaps link below points to a viable candidate. But, it's in public
health where fraud is commonplace. OTGH, it did get the perp his picture
on the cover of "Time" magazine and all kinds of honors etcetera, so
that's pretty cool
.
Fraud section starts about 43 seconds in.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4&feature=player_embedded>
Mitchell Coffey
> In article<j1bpm8$a2n$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Mitchell Coffey<mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
>> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>>
>> Mitchell Coffey
>
> Perhaps link below points to a viable candidate. But, it's in public
> health where fraud is commonplace. OTGH, it did get the perp his picture
> on the cover of "Time" magazine and all kinds of honors etcetera, so
> that's pretty cool
> .
> Fraud section starts about 43 seconds in.
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4&feature=player_embedded>
That video starts with obvious fallacies. It doesn't follow that because
we've been eating certain foods for most of our existence, those foods
are more healthy than grains and processed vegetable oils. In fact, I
would call that video a fraud. It is fundamentally dishonest in ignoring
the fact that human life-spans and general health have vastly improved
since these changes to our diet have come about. The extent to which
these improvements result from those changes in diet are subject to
debate, but this video implies that we have become generally less
healthy since those changes in our diet and the changes are to blame.
It is fraudulent on some more specific points. It's only stated beef, as
it were, against grain is that, it claims, after we started eating grain
we became shorter and fatter. The implication is unclear: is this
supposed to have been a genetic change; in which case, so what? Or is
this supposed to have been a environmentally caused change in our
health; if so, much evidence is ignored.
Probably the most fraudulent claim is it's brief against processed
vegetable oils. It claims that when we started eating them, heart
disease became the leading cause of death, implying that processed
vegetable oils caused this change. Yet even a simple observance of the
relevant epidemiology suggests that the reason heart disease became a
leading cause of death in economically advance countries is because
advances in medicine, sciences, engineering, social organization, and
public and private infrastructure lead to people /not/ dying of the
things they traditionally had died of.
Furthermore, they should hear from Terry Gilliam's lawyer.
Mitchell Coffey
Bob Casanova
appeared in talk.origins, posted by Stuart
<bigd...@gmail.com>:
I thought that was the first generation of Pentiums, not a
386.
>pay attention.
>
>Stuart
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
Walter Bushell
Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
That generation is now known are the rePentiums.
Harvest Dancer
wrote:
> 1. Astrophysicists have known for several years now what dark matter is,
> but the answer was so cool they kept it to themselves just to be dicks.
>
The consensus doesn't support the existence of the luminous ether.
Jason