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Desertphile

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Dec 22, 2010, 7:49:51 PM12/22/10
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I dunno if anyone here is interested in the subject, but I made a
video for YouTube about turquoise mines in the East Mojave, and I
uploaded it to my YouTube account. I made a Google Maps web page
for those locations:

http://desertphile.org/sbturquoise.htm

At the time I also made a map for the gold mines in the county:

http://desertphile.org/sbgold.htm

The gold map has many more data points, so it takes longer to
display in a HTML browser.

Included on the Google Maps "tear drop" markers are the names of
the mines and prospects.

Later this evening I plan on making a Google Map for the Rio
Arriba County, New Mexico, gold mines and prospects, and also for
turquoise if any.

And damn, I wish I had the gold map 100 years ago!

If anyone wants a map for their area built, I will do it for free
if they ask, but it could take a few days.


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"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

r norman

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Dec 22, 2010, 8:40:53 PM12/22/10
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:49:51 -0700, Desertphile
<deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:

>I dunno if anyone here is interested in the subject, but I made a
>video for YouTube about turquoise mines in the East Mojave, and I
>uploaded it to my YouTube account. I made a Google Maps web page
>for those locations:
>
>http://desertphile.org/sbturquoise.htm
>
>At the time I also made a map for the gold mines in the county:
>
>http://desertphile.org/sbgold.htm
>
>The gold map has many more data points, so it takes longer to
>display in a HTML browser.
>
>Included on the Google Maps "tear drop" markers are the names of
>the mines and prospects.
>
>Later this evening I plan on making a Google Map for the Rio
>Arriba County, New Mexico, gold mines and prospects, and also for
>turquoise if any.
>
>And damn, I wish I had the gold map 100 years ago!
>
>If anyone wants a map for their area built, I will do it for free
>if they ask, but it could take a few days.

When you get around to Pima County, Arizona, I will be fantastically
interested no matter how off topic it may be!

A fellow desertphile.

chris thompson

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Dec 22, 2010, 8:50:14 PM12/22/10
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On Dec 22, 7:49 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
wrote:

> I dunno if anyone here is interested in the subject, but I made a
> video for YouTube about turquoise mines in the East Mojave, and I
> uploaded it to my YouTube account. I made a Google Maps web page
> for those locations:
>
> http://desertphile.org/sbturquoise.htm
>
> At the time I also made a map for the gold mines in the county:
>
> http://desertphile.org/sbgold.htm
>
> The gold map has many more data points, so it takes longer to
> display in a HTML browser.
>
> Included on the Google Maps "tear drop" markers are the names of
> the mines and prospects.
>
> Later this evening I plan on making a Google Map for the Rio
> Arriba County, New Mexico, gold mines and prospects, and also for
> turquoise if any.
>
> And damn, I wish I had the gold map 100 years ago!
>
> If anyone wants a map for their area built, I will do it for free
> if they ask, but it could take a few days.
>
> --http://desertphile.org

> Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
> "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

Are all those places underwater or is that only on the coast?

It astounds me that no one on the news mentions AGW in connection with
the California weather. Hope you are ok,

Chris

r norman

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Dec 22, 2010, 10:51:27 PM12/22/10
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Did you actually look at the maps to see the satellite images of
mountains with roads and towns superimposed before asking?

chris thompson

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Dec 22, 2010, 11:23:50 PM12/22/10
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Look things up before posting to talk.origins?

Chris

r norman

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Dec 22, 2010, 11:36:36 PM12/22/10
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Sorry, it was a silly thing to suggest.

The correct answer is: No, they won't be underwater until tthe San
Andreas Fault goes and the rest of the United States slides into the
Atlantic Ocean.

chris thompson

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Dec 23, 2010, 12:47:18 AM12/23/10
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On Dec 22, 11:36 pm, r norman <r_s_nor...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:23:50 -0800 (PST), chris thompson
>
>
>

Um. I thought the eastern part of the US was safe until that ginormous
underwater cliff face off the Azores topples. Of course when that
goes, so does west Africa, most of Europe, and all of eastern South
America. Once all that goes, why go on living?

Chris

Walter Bushell

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Dec 23, 2010, 11:34:18 AM12/23/10
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In article
<2297e511-6a37-403b...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

There is still Australia and New Zealand if you are a Western
Culturalist. However there is still the vast majority of humans left, in
East Africa, and Asia and its offshore islands, like Japan and Taiwan.
Even Hawaii. The volcano at Yellowstone I hear could take the whole
continuos 48.

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is good, or is it the reverse?

Paul J Gans

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Dec 23, 2010, 12:06:03 PM12/23/10
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Lighten up. We've all seen the pictures of massive erosion in
the California hills...
--
--- Paul J. Gans

r norman

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Dec 23, 2010, 12:08:45 PM12/23/10
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I forgot there were some occasional and isolated sprinkles recently in
California.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 23, 2010, 12:08:00 PM12/23/10
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Don't. Laugh.

Some of us worry about that.

Paul J Gans

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Dec 23, 2010, 12:46:47 PM12/23/10
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In talk.origins Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article
><2297e511-6a37-403b...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > The correct answer is: ?No, they won't be underwater until tthe San


>> > Andreas Fault goes and the rest of the United States slides into the
>> > Atlantic Ocean.
>>
>> Um. I thought the eastern part of the US was safe until that ginormous
>> underwater cliff face off the Azores topples. Of course when that
>> goes, so does west Africa, most of Europe, and all of eastern South
>> America. Once all that goes, why go on living?
>>
>> Chris

>There is still Australia and New Zealand if you are a Western
>Culturalist. However there is still the vast majority of humans left, in
>East Africa, and Asia and its offshore islands, like Japan and Taiwan.
>Even Hawaii. The volcano at Yellowstone I hear could take the whole
>continuos 48.

My motto is "Remember the Deccan Traps!"

Desertphile

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Dec 23, 2010, 1:40:12 PM12/23/10
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That was easy. 730 records for Pima County, Arizona:

http://desertphile.org/pima-gold.htm

The page includes a link to a Microsoft Excel file that contains
the data.

One of the most interesting gold mines is the Vulture Mine: it is
the probable source for the "Lost Dutchman Mine" ore that was
"high graded" and then fenced by the "Dutchman" by claiming it
came from a mine in the Superstution Mountains. No assayer would
have been fooled, but gold is gold no matter where it comes from.

r norman

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Dec 23, 2010, 3:16:49 PM12/23/10
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Many thanks. One of these, the El Oro group, is 3 miles from my
house. Unfortunately, it is also in the Pusch Ridge Wilderness area
and I doubt that the feds would take kindly to my digging it up (not
to mention that it has been already well dug up over the last hundred
years or more). The mountains here are studded with old mine pits
that are a real danger for foolhardy hikers to fall into (usually
teenagers trying to impress a girlfriend).

Christopher Denney

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Dec 23, 2010, 3:39:18 PM12/23/10
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On Dec 23, 10:34 am, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> In article
> <2297e511-6a37-403b-98f1-4896c153f...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

Wasn't there a Warehouse 13 show about that? Helen decides to stick a
pin in the waiting-to-pop bubble of Yellowstone, so to speak.

Desertphile

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Dec 23, 2010, 4:02:41 PM12/23/10
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:16:49 -0700, r norman
<r_s_n...@comcast.net> wrote:

Now and then I am asked on YouTube if I ever go into the mines I
video tape. I reply "I'm not a stupid shithead."

Paul J Gans

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Dec 23, 2010, 4:43:53 PM12/23/10
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Yeah. Another episode of houses sliding down mountains intermixed
with a couple of cases of mountains sliding down to the houses.

"All that is old shall be made new again."

Mark Isaak

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Dec 23, 2010, 7:04:13 PM12/23/10
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:08:00 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

> In talk.origins r norman <r_s_n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:23:50 -0800 (PST), chris thompson
>><chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>On Dec 22, 10:51�pm, r norman <r_s_nor...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:50:14 -0800 (PST), chris thompson
>>>>
>>>> <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >On Dec 22, 7:49�pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
>>>> >wrote:

>>>> > [...]


>>>> >> At the time I also made a map for the gold mines in the county:
>>>>
>>>> >>http://desertphile.org/sbgold.htm

>>>> [...]


>>>>
>>>> >Are all those places underwater or is that only on the coast?
>>>>
>>>> Did you actually look at the maps to see the satellite images of
>>>> mountains with roads and towns superimposed before asking?
>>>
>>>Look things up before posting to talk.origins?
>
>>Sorry, it was a silly thing to suggest.
>
>>The correct answer is: No, they won't be underwater until tthe San
>>Andreas Fault goes and the rest of the United States slides into the
>>Atlantic Ocean.
>
> Don't. Laugh.
>
> Some of us worry about that.

Enough to do anything about it?

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Paul J Gans

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:18:42 PM12/24/10
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There are smart shitheads?

Who knew?

I learn more and more on TO every day.

James Beck

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:20:42 PM12/24/10
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:49:51 -0700, Desertphile
<deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:

>I dunno if anyone here is interested in the subject, but I made a
>video for YouTube about turquoise mines in the East Mojave, and I
>uploaded it to my YouTube account. I made a Google Maps web page
>for those locations:
>
>http://desertphile.org/sbturquoise.htm
>
>At the time I also made a map for the gold mines in the county:
>
>http://desertphile.org/sbgold.htm
>
>The gold map has many more data points, so it takes longer to
>display in a HTML browser.
>
>Included on the Google Maps "tear drop" markers are the names of
>the mines and prospects.
>
>Later this evening I plan on making a Google Map for the Rio
>Arriba County, New Mexico, gold mines and prospects, and also for
>turquoise if any.
>
>And damn, I wish I had the gold map 100 years ago!
>
>If anyone wants a map for their area built, I will do it for free
>if they ask, but it could take a few days.


These are really neat. Thanks for posting them. How were they made?

Paul J Gans

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:56:11 PM12/24/10
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I'm building a giant staple gun. A friend wants to get a
government grant to that he can turn out superglue by the
megaton.

One of those should take care of it.

Desertphile

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Dec 25, 2010, 1:57:31 PM12/25/10
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I downloaded the USGS's MRDS database and modified it to work with
Microsoft Access (a great deal of work: 5,580 records still have
not been imported). I then wrote a program to create the Google
Maps HTML using an SQL query.

My GIWOHFI program (yet to be published) implements the mining
database and the MSRMaps server, and it will overlay rock sample
Potasium/Argon dating data from the K/Ar National Geochronological
Database.

r norman

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Dec 25, 2010, 3:05:59 PM12/25/10
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This is sounds like (and the results look like) an awful lot of work.
That is what would be expected of a truly dedicated and technically
skilled rock hound.

The one thing I noticed is that it doesn't seem to (and probably
couldn't) distinguish between mining sites that were claimed legally
and so are on record but produced absolutely nothing of interest and
those sites that actually turned out to be useful sources of gold,
turquoise, silver, copper, or whatever.

James Beck

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Dec 25, 2010, 4:18:05 PM12/25/10
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:57:31 -0700, Desertphile
<deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:

Very cool. I don't really need a map, but it's nice to see the
possibilities.

Thanks again.

Desertphile

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:56:37 PM12/26/10
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Several turquoise mines that I know exist, since I visited them in
November, are not in the MRDS database. The MRDS system is quite a
bit out-of-date. There is an Active Claims database that is much
more recent with their data, but the claims are recorded by county
sections and not by latitude and longitude. My turcoise claim on
Nigger Head is in the BLM's Active Claims database but not the
MRDS database.

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