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peter...@gmail.com
Nov 3, 2013, 1:04:00 PM11/3/13
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Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
Richard Norman
Nov 3, 2013, 1:41:37 PM11/3/13
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:04:00 -0800 (PST), peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
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Do you have a reliable source for a seahorse that lives in Lake
>Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
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Titicaca? I don't mean a dried specimen that could have come from the
ocean or a fossil.
jillery
Nov 3, 2013, 2:23:02 PM11/3/13
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>Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
Different species. Here's what some of them look like:
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
<http://hippocampus-info.com/seahorses/freshwater.html>
IIUC there used to be a native pipefish in Lake Titicaca, but
introduced game fish ate them all.
Richard Norman
Nov 3, 2013, 2:59:29 PM11/3/13
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:23:02 -0500, jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Are there any reliable reports of pipefish in Lake Titicaca? Was your
understanding based perhaps on an anecdotal source rather than hard
evidence?
wrote:
understanding based perhaps on an anecdotal source rather than hard
evidence?
peter...@gmail.com
Nov 3, 2013, 4:15:00 PM11/3/13
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Richard Norman
Nov 3, 2013, 4:35:23 PM11/3/13
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 13:15:00 -0800 (PST), peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajmCCa7JZY
I repeat my question: Do you have a reliable source for a seahorse
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajmCCa7JZY
I repeat my question: Do you have a reliable source for a seahorse
James Beck
Nov 3, 2013, 4:36:20 PM11/3/13
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:04:00 -0800 (PST), peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
How about something like this: The Andes are being formed by the
>Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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>I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
subduction of the Nazca plate beneath the South American plate. They
are an upthrusting of sedimentary and metamorphic rock. That is, the
pull-apart basin where Lake Titicaca currently sits was once sea
bottom.
Lake Titicaca is fed by several major rivers and dozens of freshwater
tributaries. Over time its seahorses adapted to survive in fresh, cold
water.
Roger Shrubber
Nov 3, 2013, 5:08:30 PM11/3/13
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proponent of seahorses in Lake Titicaca. The book is
in league with "Chariots of the Gods". The source of
the seahorse story is Arthur Posnansky. It is speculated
that he was shown dried seahorses and was fooled.
Because of the remarkable claim that it is, numerous
surveys of the lake have attempted to find seahorses.
The complete lack of living or recently living specimens
to support the claims of freshwater seahorses is not
due to a lack of looking.
Richard Norman
Nov 3, 2013, 5:27:12 PM11/3/13
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seahorses in listings of the fish there from technical sources.
Inyo
Nov 3, 2013, 6:17:40 PM11/3/13
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"Richard Norman" <r_s_n...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:p46d791muve868f15...@4ax.com...
> Do you have a reliable source for a seahorse that lives in Lake
> Titicaca? I don't mean a dried specimen that could have come from the
> ocean or a fossil.
I know nothing about possible seahorses in Lake Titicaca (good for them if
they can survive there is pretty much my conclusion), but I can tell you
about a most curious coprolitic coincidence, indeed, involving the famed
South American body of water.
The plot thickens: There's a geologic rock formation on California's Mojave
Desert called the Barstow Formation. It's roughly 19 to 13 million years
old, dated pretty accurately through rigorous sophisticated radiometric
isotope calculations conducted on several inlayered accumulations of tuff
(hardened volcanic ash-sludge).
The Barstow Formation yields loads of fossils--lots of extinct, now
mineralized mammalian skeletal elements, for example. It also contains
abundant silicified insects, arachnids, and crustaceans that can be freed
whole and intact, in fully three-dimensional form, from calcareous
concretions that occur rather commonly in specific phases of sedimentary
deposition some 17 million years old.
One particular obvious evidence of arthropod activity approximately 17
million years ago, recovered from the insoluble residues of Barstow
Formation concretions run through a diluted solution of either formic,
acetic, or muriatic (commercial-grade hydrochloric) acids, includes abundant
excellently preserved coprolites from a species of fairy shrimp whose
closest living relative now inhabits the Lake Titicaca area.
Mojave Desert fairy shrimp coprolites coincidentally in common with current
crustacean defecations at Lake Titicaca (with scatatological emphasis on the
"caca" part, naturally)? You just can't make this stuff (crap?) up.
More information regarding the overall paleontology and general geology of
the middle Miocene Barstow Formation can be found at my page--"Fossil
Insects And Vertebrates On The Mojave Desert, California"
http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/barstowfossils/barstowfossils.html .
news:p46d791muve868f15...@4ax.com...
> Do you have a reliable source for a seahorse that lives in Lake
> Titicaca? I don't mean a dried specimen that could have come from the
> ocean or a fossil.
they can survive there is pretty much my conclusion), but I can tell you
about a most curious coprolitic coincidence, indeed, involving the famed
South American body of water.
The plot thickens: There's a geologic rock formation on California's Mojave
Desert called the Barstow Formation. It's roughly 19 to 13 million years
old, dated pretty accurately through rigorous sophisticated radiometric
isotope calculations conducted on several inlayered accumulations of tuff
(hardened volcanic ash-sludge).
The Barstow Formation yields loads of fossils--lots of extinct, now
mineralized mammalian skeletal elements, for example. It also contains
abundant silicified insects, arachnids, and crustaceans that can be freed
whole and intact, in fully three-dimensional form, from calcareous
concretions that occur rather commonly in specific phases of sedimentary
deposition some 17 million years old.
One particular obvious evidence of arthropod activity approximately 17
million years ago, recovered from the insoluble residues of Barstow
Formation concretions run through a diluted solution of either formic,
acetic, or muriatic (commercial-grade hydrochloric) acids, includes abundant
excellently preserved coprolites from a species of fairy shrimp whose
closest living relative now inhabits the Lake Titicaca area.
Mojave Desert fairy shrimp coprolites coincidentally in common with current
crustacean defecations at Lake Titicaca (with scatatological emphasis on the
"caca" part, naturally)? You just can't make this stuff (crap?) up.
More information regarding the overall paleontology and general geology of
the middle Miocene Barstow Formation can be found at my page--"Fossil
Insects And Vertebrates On The Mojave Desert, California"
http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/barstowfossils/barstowfossils.html .
jillery
Nov 3, 2013, 6:42:05 PM11/3/13
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around Lake Titicaca.
Dale
Nov 3, 2013, 10:24:42 PM11/3/13
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On 11/03/2013 01:04 PM, peter...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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> I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
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Cornholio is from Lake Titicaca maybe this proves something
> Sometimes creationists cliams that the Seahorses(which normaly live in saltwater) and other fishes up in lakes in the mountains are proof of the biblical flood.
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> I havent found anything about this on talkorgins archieve and wounder whats the explanation of this.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornholio#Cornholio
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Dale
Richard Norman
Nov 5, 2013, 9:59:59 AM11/5/13
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wonder, what special feature is there of fairy shrimp feces that makes
for readily identifiable coprolites? I never heard in all the ads for
"sea monkeys" any mention of the special amount or quality of
excrement they produce. Or is it that they tend to be so numerous
that any accumulation of particles is more than likely fairy shrimp
poop?
Mike Dworetsky
Nov 8, 2013, 9:36:24 AM11/8/13
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Can you imagine the uproar when parents find out they are talking to
impressionable kids about titty and ca-ca?
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Mike Dworetsky
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