this is the central issue
popelish
Rein555 wrote:
>
> Hello! I wanted to share something very important.
> You know each of us only has one life to live.
Hello. Thats the accepted assumption.
> We need to make decisions now that will determine our future.
Excellent concept! I agree completely.
> The God of heaven sent his only Son to this earth
> to let us have a way to be right with God,
> have God's help in this life and one day be in heaven
> with God. There in heaven is peace, rest, love and joy.
Wow, what is your evidence for this God, his son, and this heaven of
which you speak?
> We definitely don't want to go to the other place called hell.
> In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
> gnashing of teeth. So how can we enjoy God's blessing now
Again, how do you have knowlege of this place, hell? It sounds like you
are a hostage of fear.
> and be in heaven? Simple, receive Jesus Christ as Savior.
> It says that if we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus
Who says? What says? Why should antbody believe them/it?
> and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead
> we will be saved. We can simply pray: Heavenly Father,
> forgive me of my sins and I now confess Jesus Christ
> as the Lord of my life and I believe in my heart
> (with everything in me) that you raised Jesus Christ
> from the dead. The Word of God (the Bible) says that you
> are now saved! You are now a child of God, transferred
> from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light!
> Jesus is now your Good Shepherd, taking care of you and
> helping you!
> Thanks for reading and choosing life. Hope to hear from you soon!
Your wish is granted. Are you sure this knowlege is not all just
wishes?
Thank you for your concern for me. I am concerned for you also.
John Popelish
Rein555
Hello! I wanted to share something very important.
You know each of us only has one life to live.
to let us have a way to be right with God,
have God's help in this life and one day be in heaven
with God. There in heaven is peace, rest, love and joy.
In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
gnashing of teeth. So how can we enjoy God's blessing now
It says that if we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus
Micheal Keane
In article <19970127212...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
Really?
>You know each of us only has one life to live.
>We need to make decisions now that will determine our future.
Well, that's good, if unoriginal, advice.
>The God of heaven sent his only Son to this earth
>to let us have a way to be right with God,
>have God's help in this life and one day be in heaven
>with God. There in heaven is peace, rest, love and joy.
Whoops. You might want to stop here and get back to this "God" thingy you
babble about later on and perhaps try to show that it exists somehow.
Then, get around to your evidence for heaven, etc.
>We definitely don't want to go to the other place called hell.
And hell while you're at it.
>In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
>gnashing of teeth. So how can we enjoy God's blessing now
To quote Beavis: "Are you threatening me?"
Really, why should I worship someone who's threatening me with eternal
punishment if I chose not to worship them?
>and be in heaven? Simple, receive Jesus Christ as Savior.
Why?
>It says that if we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus
>and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead
Dang, it's back to to this mythical God concept. Why should I believe this
god thingy exists?
>we will be saved. We can simply pray: Heavenly Father,
Saved from what? Saved from your god thingy? Isn't that a protection
racket?
>forgive me of my sins and I now confess Jesus Christ
>as the Lord of my life and I believe in my heart
>(with everything in me) that you raised Jesus Christ
>from the dead. The Word of God (the Bible) says that you
How do you know it's the Word of God as opposed to the Prank of Queen
Maeve that it truly is?
>are now saved! You are now a child of God, transferred
>from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light!
>Jesus is now your Good Shepherd, taking care of you and
>helping you!
The only true path to Paradise is to renounce Christianity and lay down
your heart, soul, and lifetime supply of catnip to the One True Creator,
Queen Maeve.
>Thanks for reading and choosing life. Hope to hear from you soon!
Whatever. Now, why don't you keep the proseltyzing to yourself?
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Adam Michaud
Rein555 <rei...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970127212...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Is this a joke, or do people really believe this stuff makes a difference
here? Oh well, I guess I'm just encouraging this behavior by replying.
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Ciao,
Adam R. Michaud
Scientific revolutions, almost by definition, defy common sense.
If all our common-sense notions about the universe were correct, then
science would have solved the secrets of the universe thousands of years
ago. The purpose of science to peel back the layer of the appearance of
objects to reveal their underlying nature. In fact, if appearance and
essense were the same thing, there would be no need for science. -Michio
Kaku
Clark Dorman
rei...@aol.com (Rein555) writes:
> Hello! I wanted to share something very important.
We'd all appreciate it if you were to share this someplace else.
> You know each of us only has one life to live.
Really? Rein, meet Jahnu; Jahnu, meet Rein. Sic, Jahnu, sic!
> We definitely don't want to go to the other place called hell.
What do you mean by "we", Kemosabe? If you aren't there, it sounds
pretty good.
> In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
> gnashing of teeth.
[snip]
Who knows, maybe hell is a nice place. Ever been there? (See below)
> Hope to hear from you soon!
I don't believe you. I don't think that you'd appreciate hearing from me at
all, mostly because what I'd have to say wouldn't be very nice.
Here's one for the rest of you:
A Week In Hell
One day, a guy dies and finds himself in hell. As he is wallowing
in despair, he has his first meeting with a demon:
Demon: Why so glum, chum?
Guy: What do you think? I'm in hell.
Demon: Hell's not so bad. We actually have a lot of fun down
here. You a drinkin' man?
Guy: Sure, I love to drink.
Demon: Well, you're gonna love Mondays then. On Mondays, that's
all we do is drink. Whiskey, tequila, Guinness, wine coolers,
diet Tab... we drink till we throw up and then we drink some
more.
Guy: Gee, that sounds great.
Demon: You a smoker?
Guy: You better believe it.
Demon: All right! You're gonna love Tuesdays. We get the finest
cigars from around the world and smoke our lungs out. If you
get cancer, it's okay... you're already dead.
Guy: Golly!
Demon: I bet you like to gamble.
Guy: Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
Demon: Good, because Wednesday is gambling day. Craps, blackjack,
horse races, you name it. We even opened up a pai gow
poker table.
Guy: Gosh, I never played pai gow before...
Demon: Well now you can. You like to do drugs?
Guy: Yes, I love to do drugs. You don't mean...
Demon: That's right! Thursday is drug day. Help yourself to a
great big bowl of crack. Smoke a doobie the size of a
submarine. You can do all the drugs you want, and if you
overdose, it's okay... you're already dead.
Guy: Neat! I never realized that hell was such a swingin'
place!
Demon: You gay?
Guy: Uh, no.
Demon: Oooh (grimaces), you're gonna hate Fridays.
--
Clark
Daniel Howell
I suggest you try some of the eastern religions. This is
certainly not universally accepted :-)
>We need to make decisions now that will determine our future.
>The God of heaven sent his only Son to this earth
>to let us have a way to be right with God,
>have God's help in this life and one day be in heaven
>with God. There in heaven is peace, rest, love and joy.
>We definitely don't want to go to the other place called hell.
>In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
>gnashing of teeth. So how can we enjoy God's blessing now
>and be in heaven? Simple, receive Jesus Christ as Savior.
>It says that if we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus
>and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead
>we will be saved. We can simply pray: Heavenly Father,
>forgive me of my sins and I now confess Jesus Christ
>as the Lord of my life and I believe in my heart
>(with everything in me) that you raised Jesus Christ
>from the dead. The Word of God (the Bible) says that you
>are now saved! You are now a child of God, transferred
>from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light!
>Jesus is now your Good Shepherd, taking care of you and
>helping you!
>Thanks for reading and choosing life. Hope to hear from you soon!
*ahem* The universe was created and run by a God who is interested in
seeing His creations think for themselves. For those who do so
eternal salvation awaits, while those who bow and scrape before a
God are condemned to eternal damnation.
Save yourself, cast off the shackles of religion to preserve your
immortal soul!
[Before anyone says how silly this is, can I ask is anyone has any
evidence that my scenario is less likely to be correct than the stuff
posted above?]
Splifford
In article <19970127212...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, rei...@aol.com
(Rein555) wrote:
> Hello! I wanted to share something very important.
_You_ may think this is important. Everyone else thinks you're a loon.
> You know each of us only has one life to live.
Golly gee. Gotta tell my Hindu friends that. it'll piss them off right proper.
> We need to make decisions now that will determine our future.
One of which is to not to ever again read a post made by you, moron.
> The God of heaven sent his only Son to this earth
> to let us have a way to be right with God,
> have God's help in this life and one day be in heaven
> with God. There in heaven is peace, rest, love and joy.
That a fact? Prove it.
> We definitely don't want to go to the other place called hell.
How do you know what I want? I may want to be sure that I stayas far away
from you as possible.
> In hell, there is darkness, thirst, torment and weeping and
> gnashing of teeth.
Sounds like Congress.
So how can we enjoy God's blessing now
> and be in heaven? Simple, receive Jesus Christ as Savior.
Thanks, but no thanks. Do my own thinking, thank you.
> It says that if we will confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus
> and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead
> we will be saved. We can simply pray: Heavenly Father,
> forgive me of my sins and I now confess Jesus Christ
> as the Lord of my life and I believe in my heart
> (with everything in me) that you raised Jesus Christ
> from the dead. The Word of God (the Bible) says that you
> are now saved! You are now a child of God, transferred
> from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light!
> Jesus is now your Good Shepherd, taking care of you and
> helping you!
Why are you posting this in t.o? You're trolling, right? Go and annoy the
people in the alt.christnet.* groups, they deserve you.
> Thanks for reading and choosing life. Hope to hear from you soon!
Hold this. Assuming that you haven't forged your email address, that is.
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