On Sat, 09 Jul 2022 20:39:22 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>:
>On Sat, 09 Jul 2022 16:22:55 -0500, the following appeared
>>> On Sat, 09 Jul 2022 13:21:50 -0500, the following appeared
>>> in talk.origins, posted by Bill <
fre...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 09:49:49 -0500, the following appeared
>>>>> [Repost]
>>>>>
>>>>>>jillery wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 06:28:58 -0700 (PDT), israel socratus
>>>>>>> <
socrat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Gravitational waves are the weakest interference in the cosmic grid .
>>>>>>>>. . . Correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That depends on what you mean by "weakest interference". They're not
>>>>>>> the same as electromagnetic light or radio waves, and so they don't
>>>>>>> interfere with each other. OTOH gravity waves detected by LIGO et al
>>>>>>> have amplitudes on the order of a fraction of a proton's diameter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's pretty much the same as saying they don't exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not. If they're detectable, and detected, they
>>>>> exist. Your assertion is exactly the same as claiming that
>>>>> since protons are so small they essentially don't exist.
>>>>>>
>>> No comment on this, not even the usual BillWaffle? No
>>> surprise.
>>>>
>>>>>> Even so, people have
>>>>>>come to accept gravity is real to it must be, whether it's detectable or
>>>>>>not.
>>>>
>>> As I noted in a later post, I missed that; here was my
>>> response. Care to comment?
>>> **************************************************
>>> Missed that howler in my earlier read. Can I assume by that
>>> comment ("...have come to accept gravity is real [s]o it
>>> must be..."; IOW it's accepted without evidence) that you
>>> are not one of those who accept that gravity is real? Have
>>> you tested that opinion? Any tall buildings in your area?
>>> **************************************************
>>>>
>>
>>You confuse the gravity that people believe makes things fall with the
>>gravity that people believe holds the universe together.
>>
>Really? Please be so kind as to describe what you imagine
>distinguishes one form the other. Be specific.
>
Waiting...
>
>And BTW, I really love the repeated "people believe" when
>referring to the existence of gravity. Since to you it's
>apparently a simple matter of belief, I have to ask once
>more whether you've found that tall building yet, the one
>from the roof of which you can demonstrate that it's *only*
>a matter of belief.
>>
Well?
>
>> By your comments
>>here, it's obvious that your grasp of gravity begins and ends with Newton
>>and you don't want to think beyond that.
>>
>Wrong again. See my comment below re: GR. Think about why I
>might have made that comment. After you've thought about it,
>take two aspirin and call me in the morning.
>>
>>>>Gravity is the alleged force through which one massive object attracts
>>>>another. This necessarily means that there must be at least two massive
>>>>objects that together, create gravity.
>>>>
>>> No, but thanks for playing. Try reading about General
>>> Relativity.
>>>>
>>>> One massive object neither generates
>>>>nor responds to gravity and that must mean there is no gravity for single
>>>>massive objects. It's cosmic alchemy where nothing transmutes into
>>>>something.
>>>>
>>> Nope. But please come back when you physics education has
>>> progressed sufficiently far beyond the 10th century.