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What is a fixed universe?

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Rolf

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May 9, 2012, 4:44:57 PM5/9/12
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I don't know anything about a 'fixed universe'. Anyone around here who
knows?
I thought it was all 'panta rei'


John S. Wilkins

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May 9, 2012, 5:51:05 PM5/9/12
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No, that's a mistransliteration. It's "Panda rei". As everybody knows,
"rei" is ancient Accadian for "thumb".
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

Mark Isaak

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May 9, 2012, 7:12:23 PM5/9/12
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On 5/9/12 1:44 PM, Rolf wrote:
> I don't know anything about a 'fixed universe'. Anyone around here who
> knows?

There is a hypothesis of cosmological origins which posits that new
universes naturally and spontaneously form from existing universes. A
"fixed" universe, then, is one which has been surgically altered so that
it cannot create baby universes.

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume

Robert Carnegie: Fnord: cc talk-origins@moderators.isc.org

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May 9, 2012, 9:15:24 PM5/9/12
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"Fixed universe" appears to be a term used contrary to
"fixed earth", which is the very odd belief that planet
Earth isn't moving in space, and, separately, isn't
rotating.

It also appears in some discussion of "determinism",
a belief that whatever happens couldn't have not happened,
versus "free will", in which you, personally, make choices.

It has been used to describe Sir Isaac Newton's cosmology,
in which material bodies have relative motions relative
to other physical bodies but light and other electromagnetic
radiation travel at constant speed in vacuum as waves in
an intangible gel called "ether", to Albert Einstein's,
in which light waves appear to have constant speed even
when theoretically you are passing rapidly through the
ether while observing the waves.

It could be applied to "Steady State" scientific cosmology,
an abandoned theory in which the universe always will
exist in the overall state that it is now, and, to some,
always has existed. This would require that the increase
in entropy in natural processes is somehow compensated for.
This perhaps best fits with mentioning "panta rei".

Bill

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May 9, 2012, 10:58:19 PM5/9/12
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That would be a universe that was broken once, but isn't anymore.

John S. Wilkins

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May 10, 2012, 7:37:52 AM5/10/12
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It's *behind* you!

Bob Casanova

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May 10, 2012, 2:11:10 PM5/10/12
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On Wed, 9 May 2012 22:44:57 +0200, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by "Rolf" <rolf.a...@tele2.no>:

>I don't know anything about a 'fixed universe'. Anyone around here who
>knows?

One which is no longer defective?

Sorry...

>I thought it was all 'panta rei'
>
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Brian Holmes

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May 11, 2012, 2:01:27 AM5/11/12
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The phrase "a fixed universe" refers to the theory that
the universe has been spayed. This has the advantage
of preventing the universe from going into heat, in
violation of the second law of thermodynamics

Gotta go,
Cabbage

jillery

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May 11, 2012, 2:18:55 AM5/11/12
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Hah! Very good.

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