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Suzanne

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:52:12 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 21, 10:07 am, Jack Dominey <jack.dominey+...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
> In <21670e2b-a5c2-497b-aa15-8ae76dcb7...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> Suzanne <leila...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 17, 10:49 am, Jack Dominey <jack.dominey+...@gmail.invalid>
> >wrote:
> >> In
> >> <3fba0a39-f2a0-428d-a654-a61981407...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> Suzanne <leila...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 14, 4:18 am, alextangent <b...@rivadpm.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Nov 14, 3:46 am, Suzanne <leila...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > You stated elsewhere; "I went to the University of Texas in Austin,
> >> >> > > Texas, the original campus.  I was a physics major, but I switched to
> >> >> > > Education." (post dated 3 May 2000). The physics major piece I just
> >> >> > > don't believe for one second, as your understanding of even the most
> >> >> > > simple physics is woeful. That colours my opinion of anything else you
> >> >> > > say.
>
> >> >> Did you attend UoT as a physics major? Of course not. A silent fart
> >> >> still smells.
>
> >> >Yes I did attend as a physics major.
>
> >> For how long were you a physics major?  How many physics or
> >> mathematics courses did you complete as a physics major?
>
> >The first year in college I was enrolled in physics,
> >and that's it. This class that I attended was only
> >for a guest lecturer that I wanted to hear. Now, for
> >what reason are you asking me these questions?
>
> I ask because there is such a thing as making perfectly truthful
> statements that are misleading or deceptive.  Your statements
> regarding your physics major strike me as possibly in that category.
> Being a physics major could have some relevance to the discussion
> here, but only to the extent that it implies you have some knowledge
> of physics.  If you were simply enrolled as a physics major but never
> completed any coursework in math or physics, then your major was not
> relevant at all.
>
Hello, Jack. I have not done at all what you and or
Harry are implying. I've said from the beginning that
I was NOT in a physics class, that I had NOT taken
higher physics and that most of what the lecturer
had said was over my head. So you are way off
base with your questions. If you choose to enter
a thread in the middle of something, which I have
done myself, you can get some mistaken ideas
about what is going on. Universities require that
a person have a major when they enter them, in
order that a student can be placed in the right
"college" or "school," within the university that
they are attending. For someone to say (when
asked) that they had a major in physics which
they later changed, is not something intended to
be exploitive of himself, or herself.
>
> You only gave one answer above and it is ambiguous.  It appears you
> would like to imply that you were a physics major for one year, but
> your phrasing would be accurate (but misleading) if your declared
> physics major lasted no more than a few weeks.
>
I did not give you an ambiguous answer: You said
that I "implied" that I was a physics major for one
year. I did not "imply" it. I said it outright because you
had asked, and only to be polite to you.
>
> You did not answer my second question at all. I did not ask about the
> lecture by WvB, but rather about any actual coursework in physics or
> mathematics.  
>
Sorry, but I don't think personal questions are really
very appropriate for an Internet newsgroup. Please
do respect this.
>
Suzanne

Jack Dominey

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:33:19 PM11/22/09
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In
<ed68298c-940e-45fd...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
Suzanne <leil...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I did not ask about "higher physics", nor did I ask anything about the
lecture by WvB. My questions were only in regard to your declared
major.

>If you choose to enter
>a thread in the middle of something, which I have
>done myself, you can get some mistaken ideas
>about what is going on.

You are assuming that because I have not posted to this thread that I
have not read it. I have done so.

>Universities require that
>a person have a major when they enter them, in
>order that a student can be placed in the right
>"college" or "school," within the university that
>they are attending.

No, not all universities require a declared major for underclassmen.
You would do well to avoid making general statements when you have
limited information. UT's practices when you attended are not
necessarily applicable to any other university, or even to UT in the
present day.

>For someone to say (when
>asked) that they had a major in physics which
>they later changed, is not something intended to
>be exploitive of himself, or herself.

And reviewing the thread here, I see that alextangent brought up your
mention of the major from nine years ago.

I was asking because you've posted some very, um, idiosyncratic
statements about very basic physics, so I was curious about what
education you had received in that area.

>> You only gave one answer above and it is ambiguous.  It appears you
>> would like to imply that you were a physics major for one year, but
>> your phrasing would be accurate (but misleading) if your declared
>> physics major lasted no more than a few weeks.
>>
>I did not give you an ambiguous answer: You said
>that I "implied" that I was a physics major for one
>year. I did not "imply" it. I said it outright because you
>had asked, and only to be polite to you.

Your statement was "The first year in college I was enrolled in
physics". This would be an accurate statement if you were a declared
physics major for a period of, say, two weeks. But you say it was
your major for the full year. Very well, I have no particular reason
to doubt it.

>> You did not answer my second question at all. I did not ask about the
>> lecture by WvB, but rather about any actual coursework in physics or
>> mathematics.  
>>
>Sorry, but I don't think personal questions are really
>very appropriate for an Internet newsgroup. Please
>do respect this.

Whether or not you took classes in your declared major area is a
personal question? What a peculiar standard.
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Harry K

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:51:33 PM11/22/09
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> Suzanne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Based on your past history I sense an avoidance of the question. Your
"i was a physics major in my first year..." does not in any way answer
the question "how long?". You could have been in it for one week to
an entire year and your answer would be right but not an honest
answer.

So: Did you sstay in that major for an entire year?

Remember you originallymentioned it to lend credance to one or your
statements about physics. We have a right to know so we can judge how
much knowledge you have.

Harry K

Ye Old One

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:02:51 AM11/23/09
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But, as I understand it, US universities are much the same as UK ones
in requiring you to have certain qualifications for entering a course.
You show no real knowledge of physics whatsoever. Certainly not enough
to get the high school pass marks necessary to register for a
university course on the subject.

Please explain this discrepancy in your story?


>>
>> You only gave one answer above and it is ambiguous.  It appears you
>> would like to imply that you were a physics major for one year, but
>> your phrasing would be accurate (but misleading) if your declared
>> physics major lasted no more than a few weeks.
>>
>I did not give you an ambiguous answer: You said
>that I "implied" that I was a physics major for one
>year. I did not "imply" it. I said it outright because you
>had asked, and only to be polite to you.

The more you go on the more I think you are really lying.


>>
>> You did not answer my second question at all. I did not ask about the
>> lecture by WvB, but rather about any actual coursework in physics or
>> mathematics.  
>>
>Sorry, but I don't think personal questions are really
>very appropriate for an Internet newsgroup. Please
>do respect this.

You made claims. You have been called on them.
>>
>Suzanne


--
Bob.

People may not always remember exactly what you said, but they will
always remember just how bright you made them feel.

Jack Dominey

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:52:46 AM11/23/09
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In <7283c2fa-fb69-4c91...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
Harry K <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Based on your past history I sense an avoidance of the question. Your
>"i was a physics major in my first year..." does not in any way answer
>the question "how long?". You could have been in it for one week to
>an entire year and your answer would be right but not an honest
>answer.
>
>So: Did you sstay in that major for an entire year?
>
>Remember you originallymentioned it to lend credance to one or your
>statements about physics. We have a right to know so we can judge how
>much knowledge you have.

Based on her subsequent reply to me, I'm willing to accept that she
was indeed a physics major for a full year.

I do not understand her assertion that whether she took any physics or
math classes during that year is a personal question, but in the end
it's kind of irrelevant. Her posts are sufficient to demonstrate her
understanding of the subject.

Ye Old One

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:17:08 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:52:46 -0500, Jack Dominey
<jack.dom...@gmail.invalid> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>In <7283c2fa-fb69-4c91...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
>Harry K <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Based on your past history I sense an avoidance of the question. Your
>>"i was a physics major in my first year..." does not in any way answer
>>the question "how long?". You could have been in it for one week to
>>an entire year and your answer would be right but not an honest
>>answer.
>>
>>So: Did you sstay in that major for an entire year?
>>
>>Remember you originallymentioned it to lend credance to one or your
>>statements about physics. We have a right to know so we can judge how
>>much knowledge you have.
>
>Based on her subsequent reply to me, I'm willing to accept that she
>was indeed a physics major for a full year.

Based on her posting history on this group, I reject her claim to have
reached that level in physics.


>
>I do not understand her assertion that whether she took any physics or
>math classes during that year is a personal question, but in the end
>it's kind of irrelevant. Her posts are sufficient to demonstrate her
>understanding of the subject.

Yep - just about zero.

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Bob.

Hatunen

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:26:16 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:52:46 -0500, Jack Dominey
<jack.dom...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

In fact, if she did take math and physics her posts speak volumes
about either (a) her abilities as a student of (b) the quality of
the school.

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