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Rolf Aalberg
May 16, 2013, 4:25:04 AM5/16/13
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I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
during the past 10 days or so.
Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
certain but may theoretically be something different.
In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
Rolf
during the past 10 days or so.
Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
certain but may theoretically be something different.
In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
Rolf
Rolf Aalberg
May 16, 2013, 4:44:38 AM5/16/13
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thread? Although when I seek all msgs by Ray I haven't been able to find
it in the time frame.
Ron O
May 16, 2013, 5:34:40 AM5/16/13
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it. He is the only one posting to TO that has done it that I know of.
Ron Okimoto
Burkhard
May 16, 2013, 5:42:29 AM5/16/13
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google groups, if you read messages on a newsreader, you still get
posts deleted in google groups, and they are still archived by your
reader's archive
Could have another reason though.The search function for google groups
seems to have a huge time law for some reason (maybe indexing posts?),
so it may well be that even posst that were not deleted don't show up
for quite some time
Robert Carnegie
May 16, 2013, 9:22:57 AM5/16/13
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On Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:42:29 UTC+1, Burkhard wrote:
> Could have another reason though.The search function for google groups
> seems to have a huge time law for some reason (maybe indexing posts?)
You meant a "high time luge", evidently.
> Could have another reason though.The search function for google groups
> seems to have a huge time law for some reason (maybe indexing posts?)
And that's not to say that the incomplete, because go missing.
So that what remains or no sense.
Probably it is eventually correctly assembled all, but have you wait to.
Rolf Aalberg
May 16, 2013, 12:10:06 PM5/16/13
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Mike Painter
May 16, 2013, 1:15:46 PM5/16/13
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On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:25:04 +0200, Rolf Aalberg
<rolf.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
>during the past 10 days or so.
Essentially, at least for a fairly long time, no
<rolf.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
>during the past 10 days or so.
The message will exist on a large number of servers for a considerable
length of time in some cases.
Forte keeps text messages for 3,300 Days.
James Beck
May 16, 2013, 2:03:21 PM5/16/13
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Rolf Aalberg
May 16, 2013, 4:44:43 PM5/16/13
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Paul J Gans
May 16, 2013, 7:02:08 PM5/16/13
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the internet. Some ISP's would delete the cancelled message
if the cancel came from the same computer and person who sent
the original message.
But the actual cancelling was optional.
Nowadays, nobody pays any attention to cancels, except that some,
perhaps Google, may internally cancel the message. But other
ISPs won't and so the message is still out there somewhere.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Walter Bushell
May 17, 2013, 9:04:49 AM5/17/13
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In article <kn3ohg$8ij$8...@reader1.panix.com>,
--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx
Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> Once upon a time a poster could send a "cancel" message through
> the internet. Some ISP's would delete the cancelled message
> if the cancel came from the same computer and person who sent
> the original message.
>
> But the actual cancelling was optional.
>
> Nowadays, nobody pays any attention to cancels, except that some,
> perhaps Google, may internally cancel the message. But other
> ISPs won't and so the message is still out there somewhere.
>
> --
> --- Paul J. Gans
panix still honors cancels which is handy for internal froups.
> Once upon a time a poster could send a "cancel" message through
> the internet. Some ISP's would delete the cancelled message
> if the cancel came from the same computer and person who sent
> the original message.
>
> But the actual cancelling was optional.
>
> Nowadays, nobody pays any attention to cancels, except that some,
> perhaps Google, may internally cancel the message. But other
> ISPs won't and so the message is still out there somewhere.
>
> --
> --- Paul J. Gans
--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx
Richard Clayton
May 17, 2013, 9:51:28 AM5/17/13
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Groups DOES allow the original poster to delete a message. The
Mysterious Post Deleter (who totally isn't Ray) is fond of removing
posts that Ray finds embarrassing or inconvenient.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Richard Clayton
"I keep six honest serving men (they taught me all I knew); their names
are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." � Rudyard Kipling
jillery
May 17, 2013, 12:06:48 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:51:28 -0400, Richard Clayton
<richZIG.e....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 16-May-13 04:25, Rolf Aalberg wrote:
>> I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
>> during the past 10 days or so.
>>
>> Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
>> thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
>> evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
>> certain but may theoretically be something different.
>>
>> In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
>>
>> I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
>> is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
>>
>> I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
>> make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
>>
>> But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
>> Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
>>
>> Rolf
>
>If I recall correctly, DIG does not permit cancels. That said, Google
>Groups DOES allow the original poster to delete a message. The
>Mysterious Post Deleter (who totally isn't Ray) is fond of removing
>posts that Ray finds embarrassing or inconvenient.
Of course, removing posts doesn't remove replies to that post. One
<richZIG.e....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 16-May-13 04:25, Rolf Aalberg wrote:
>> I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
>> during the past 10 days or so.
>>
>> Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
>> thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
>> evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
>> certain but may theoretically be something different.
>>
>> In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
>>
>> I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
>> is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
>>
>> I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
>> make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
>>
>> But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
>> Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
>>
>> Rolf
>
>If I recall correctly, DIG does not permit cancels. That said, Google
>Groups DOES allow the original poster to delete a message. The
>Mysterious Post Deleter (who totally isn't Ray) is fond of removing
>posts that Ray finds embarrassing or inconvenient.
could seek out Ray's cancels and reply to them, for posterity's sake.
Rolf
May 21, 2013, 4:49:37 AM5/21/13
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"Richard Clayton" <richZIG.e....@gmail.com> skrev i melding
news:kn5ce4$qo2$1...@dont-email.me...
> On 16-May-13 04:25, Rolf Aalberg wrote:
> > I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
> > during the past 10 days or so.
> >
> > Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
> > thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
> > evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
> > certain but may theoretically be something different.
> >
> > In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
> >
> > I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
> > is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
> >
> > I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
> > make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
> >
> > But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
> > Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
> >
> > Rolf
>
> If I recall correctly, DIG does not permit cancels. That said, Google
> Groups DOES allow the original poster to delete a message. The
> Mysterious Post Deleter (who totally isn't Ray) is fond of removing
> posts that Ray finds embarrassing or inconvenient.
>
Thank you for clearing that up. Unless my memory fails me, it would have
> > I am asking because I am unable to find a message posted by someone
> > during the past 10 days or so.
> >
> > Unless I have been dreaming, the msg was posted by Ray Martinez in the
> > thread "Ray Martinez and Pandas Thumb" and contained the words "perfect
> > evidence". I am 100% certain about "evidence" with "perfect" almost
> > certain but may theoretically be something different.
> >
> > In addition, "relieved" appeared in the msg.
> >
> > I therefore speculate, I find it very hard to believe my memory of this
> > is incorrect, but is it possible that a message may have become deleted?
> >
> > I did not immediately respond to the msg but wanted to take my time to
> > make a proper response and by then I was unable to retrieve it.
> >
> > But since sent messages are being stored on the sender's machine, maybe
> > Ray himself might want to solve this mystery?
> >
> > Rolf
>
> If I recall correctly, DIG does not permit cancels. That said, Google
> Groups DOES allow the original poster to delete a message. The
> Mysterious Post Deleter (who totally isn't Ray) is fond of removing
> posts that Ray finds embarrassing or inconvenient.
>
been a rather embarassing statement even for him.
> --
> [The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
> Richard Clayton
> "I keep six honest serving men (they taught me all I knew); their names
>
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