On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:59:53 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <
69jp...@gmail.com>:
>On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:24:57 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 03:49:54 -0400, the following appeared
>>in talk.origins, posted by jillery <
69jp...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:06:33 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>><snip>
>>>
>>>>...CNN, the news equivalent of Lucas
>>>>Electrics, the "Prince of Darkness". I can wait.
>>>
>>>Yet another statement from Bob "I don't do politics" Casanova.
>>>
>>Wow, an actual direct response from jillery! I feel so
>>honored!
>
>
>You haven't paid attention. The above wasn't the first. And since
>you admitted your opinion of me, it won't be the last.
>
No, *you* weren't paying attention. This is the first
*direct* (as contrasted with piggyback) response to or about
me from you I've seen in quite a few months; IIRC you
stopped responding to me after I disagreed with you about
something Harran posted which you didn't like. But since
bringing up things over a year old in response to current
assertions apparently now qualifies as "spamming", I
wouldn't dream of indulging in it.
>
>>That said, thanks for admitting the CNN is a political
>>organization, as are nearly all such.
>
>
>Aping Glenn is a poor strategy. I neither posted nor implied any such
>admission.
>
So implying that my characterization of CNN was "political"
doesn't mean that in your opinion CNN is a political
organization? OK, if you say so...
>
>With that clarification out of the way, I acknowledge that "nearly
>all" organizations have political biases. I deny such biases mean
>their reporting is faulty, as you allude, or that they justify your
>pointless cynicism.
>
>Do you acknowledge that posting baseless criticisms of CNN is a common
>practice among the far-right?
>
Do *you* acknowledge that viewing a "news" organization as
biased says nothing about the politics of the viewer?
Especially when that criticism extends to all such
organizations, from one end of the political spectrum to the
other? No, probably you don't; that would require a lack of
bias.
>
>>And, for that matter,
>>as they always have been, on *all* sides, protestations of
>>"professionalism" and "neutrality" notwithstanding.
>>
>>And I notice you failed to respond to my further post, in
>>which I stipulated that cold tolerance *is* one of the
>>goals, which I missed. Here it is:
>
>
>I "failed to respond" to lots of things. WRT the particular point you
>mention, the fact is, the cited article has several quotes stating
>goals, so not sure why you're spamming about it.
>
Ah, now I'm "spamming" again; defending against an outdated
assertion such as you made is now "spamming"! Glad we
cleared that up.
> But facts don't
>matter to those who handwave them away just because they're reported
>by CNN.
>
Y'know, I could probably find dozens of comments here,
mostly by professionals, in which reference to such as CNN
for information was denigrated (justifiably) because it's
neither professional (in the science sense; the other is not
relevant to this) nor peer-reviewed. And I think that claims
about the purpose and methodology of a scientific effort
qualify as the same sort of problem. YM, of course, MV.
>
>But since you mention it, I noticed you posted nothing to back up your
>mindless and irrelevant noise about CNN.
>
It's an opinion, based on years of observation. And just as
scientific as data provided by CNN. Or Fox.
>
>>****************************************************************
>>OK; I'll give you that an Arctic-capable animal is a goal.
>>That has nothing to do with your objections regarding a
>>"rewind" of the genome changes leading from mammoths to
>>current elephants.
>>****************************************************************
>>
>>But of course, that wouldn't have allowed you to vent.
>
>
>Sez the guy who posted mindless and irrelevant noise about a news
>agency.
> Apparently you don't appreciate the irony of the name of my
>cite's source.
>
>Notice me not responding to your additional misrepresentations.
>
Notice me giving not a fsck whether you put your fingers in
your ears and shout "LALALALA! I can't HEAR you!
REEEEEEEEEEE!" and mindlessly assert that things you
dislike, such as direct quotes demonstrating that my
original post was correct, are "misrepresentations". (Been
studying The Refrigerant's techniques? He simply *loves*
doing that.)