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The societal feeling is gone, and now anything can happen
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mohammad...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2021, 2:45:21 PM11/17/21
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I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
Academics had the idea to throw out all what is subjective, because of it not being objective.
Facebook is full of these people who argue, if you cannot measure it, then it is not real.
So then there are 2 options for what is subjective,
1. say it is not real, or
2. say it is really objective.
God is then thrown out as not real, and love is said to be objectively measurable in the brain. The entire subjective part of reality, is rejected.
1. Creator / chooses / spiritual / subjective / opinion
2. Creation / chosen / material / objective / fact
The entire category 1 is thrown out, and then some words, such as the word love, are moved from category 1 to category 2 with a new objective meaning.
On the one hand things are going along in society as normal, because in common discourse, we still use correct logic of subjectivity, on an intuitive basis. Intuitively we can still say things are beautiful or ugly, on a subjective basis. So subjectivity still function to a large extent.
But intellectually, the intellectual persona of people, there subjectivity is utterly annihilated. So it is a kind of schizoid society with the normal subjectivity in common discourse going on, but on the other hand an incredibly dark evil force coming from academics. The intellectual persona of people is bereft of emotion, like a totally crazy zombie.
The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
Academics had the idea to throw out all what is subjective, because of it not being objective.
Facebook is full of these people who argue, if you cannot measure it, then it is not real.
So then there are 2 options for what is subjective,
1. say it is not real, or
2. say it is really objective.
God is then thrown out as not real, and love is said to be objectively measurable in the brain. The entire subjective part of reality, is rejected.
1. Creator / chooses / spiritual / subjective / opinion
2. Creation / chosen / material / objective / fact
The entire category 1 is thrown out, and then some words, such as the word love, are moved from category 1 to category 2 with a new objective meaning.
On the one hand things are going along in society as normal, because in common discourse, we still use correct logic of subjectivity, on an intuitive basis. Intuitively we can still say things are beautiful or ugly, on a subjective basis. So subjectivity still function to a large extent.
But intellectually, the intellectual persona of people, there subjectivity is utterly annihilated. So it is a kind of schizoid society with the normal subjectivity in common discourse going on, but on the other hand an incredibly dark evil force coming from academics. The intellectual persona of people is bereft of emotion, like a totally crazy zombie.
*Hemidactylus*
Nov 17, 2021, 3:40:21 PM11/17/21
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totalitarianism” where we were treated to such Nandoisms as: “What a bunch
of goddamned fucking nazis these woke people are. They should all be shot.”
and “I don't think it is very uncommon to want woke people dead. These
totally disgusting unhumans who deny emotions.” I doubt you will forgive me
for rolling my eyes as you rant incoherently and ironically about the loss
of societal feeling. It’s like a snake bemoaning limb loss.
Burkhard
Nov 17, 2021, 4:20:20 PM11/17/21
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Lawyer Daggett
Nov 17, 2021, 4:25:21 PM11/17/21
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On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote:
> I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
>
> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>
> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>
> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
Ahem. 1964. https://youtu.be/uOnYY9Mw2Fg
> I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
>
> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>
> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>
> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
Burkhard
Nov 17, 2021, 5:00:21 PM11/17/21
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mohammad...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2021, 5:20:21 PM11/17/21
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So what. Who cares about saying to want the people dead who turn the police into the gestapo, pursuing political oppopents. Totally disgusting. And all that oppression of free speech. etc. Totally sickening to manipulate people's opinions like that. Vaccinating millions of 5 to 12 year olds, with an experimental vaccin, that is known enormous amounts of deaths registered to it already.
If they weren't being tyrants, I wouldn't be saying it. It is the truth, the only way forward is down, because academics has thrown love out the window. It's not going to go well.
And I think everyone knows it is going to go badly. Nobody thinks that things will turn out good, or ok.
Everyone feels it's going to go very, very, badly. Don't you all feel that too?
You throw out the whole idea of subjective love. That makes you a disgusting anti-human. That is really what it is that defines these times. You're a total monster.
The talk.origins evolutionists, they did a pretty significant bit in causing people to throw out the idea of subjective love.
What a fucking bunch of nazis you all are.
Op woensdag 17 november 2021 om 21:40:21 UTC+1 schreef *Hemidactylus*:
If they weren't being tyrants, I wouldn't be saying it. It is the truth, the only way forward is down, because academics has thrown love out the window. It's not going to go well.
And I think everyone knows it is going to go badly. Nobody thinks that things will turn out good, or ok.
Everyone feels it's going to go very, very, badly. Don't you all feel that too?
You throw out the whole idea of subjective love. That makes you a disgusting anti-human. That is really what it is that defines these times. You're a total monster.
The talk.origins evolutionists, they did a pretty significant bit in causing people to throw out the idea of subjective love.
What a fucking bunch of nazis you all are.
Op woensdag 17 november 2021 om 21:40:21 UTC+1 schreef *Hemidactylus*:
Lawyer Daggett
Nov 17, 2021, 5:20:21 PM11/17/21
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Lawyer Daggett
Nov 17, 2021, 5:40:21 PM11/17/21
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On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote:
> I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
>
> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>
> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>
> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
>
Reboot
>
> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>
> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>
> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
>
https://youtu.be/a23945btJYw
Personal story. I showed the above to my grandchildren. The oldest (9 years old) had mixed feelings.
Please watch it, if you're going to, before reading further. It really is rather pleasant.
I was a bit taken back by the reaction. (I may have shared this before)
Somehow, he perceived it as big people bullying little people. I can see how that might be
a reaction, but I do think it's a misapprehension. Misapprehensions might be somehow
relevant to a thread such as this.
We talked about it. It became a lesson in perception, and how one must be careful not
to let oneself be mastered by a potential misapprehension. Because in the end, it is a
beautiful thing. It's such a shame to destroy an otherwise beautiful thing by inadvertently
perceiving it from the perspective of a misapprehension. This lesson will be lost on the
one who could most benefit from it.
*Hemidactylus*
Nov 17, 2021, 6:35:21 PM11/17/21
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https://youtu.be/-q66zKQ3-XM
Ice T and Body Count do a decent cover (damn those SJWs):
https://youtu.be/LPHJLB1ZeAc
Body Count did an interesting song about police brutality back in the day…
André G. Isaak
Nov 17, 2021, 7:35:21 PM11/17/21
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On 2021-11-17 15:40, Lawyer Daggett wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
>>
>> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>>
>> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>>
>> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
>>
> Reboot
> https://youtu.be/a23945btJYw
>
> Personal story. I showed the above to my grandchildren. The oldest (9 years old) had mixed feelings.
> Please watch it, if you're going to, before reading further. It really is rather pleasant.
>
> I was a bit taken back by the reaction. (I may have shared this before)
>
> Somehow, he perceived it as big people bullying little people. I can see how that might be
> a reaction, but I do think it's a misapprehension. Misapprehensions might be somehow
> relevant to a thread such as this.
That's a rather odd interpretation. Maybe he just didn't understand the
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I wonder if you are feeling it too, or rather not feeling it. The societal feeling is very much dissipated, a shell, and gone.
>>
>> The seventies, still a wealth of societal emotion, although quickly being consumed.
>>
>> The eighties, still a wealth of societal emotion, but only behind closed doors in people's homes, and not general and openly like in the seventies.
>>
>> The nineties untill now, generally things getting worse.
>>
> Reboot
> https://youtu.be/a23945btJYw
>
> Personal story. I showed the above to my grandchildren. The oldest (9 years old) had mixed feelings.
> Please watch it, if you're going to, before reading further. It really is rather pleasant.
>
> I was a bit taken back by the reaction. (I may have shared this before)
>
> Somehow, he perceived it as big people bullying little people. I can see how that might be
> a reaction, but I do think it's a misapprehension. Misapprehensions might be somehow
> relevant to a thread such as this.
Schiller? (perhaps he doesn't speak German?)
Did you explain to him that the little girl was clearly in on the whole
thing?
André
> We talked about it. It became a lesson in perception, and how one must be careful not
> to let oneself be mastered by a potential misapprehension. Because in the end, it is a
> beautiful thing. It's such a shame to destroy an otherwise beautiful thing by inadvertently
> perceiving it from the perspective of a misapprehension. This lesson will be lost on the
> one who could most benefit from it.
>
To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail
service.
Lawyer Daggett
Nov 17, 2021, 7:55:21 PM11/17/21
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children, or so I believe. I said it was her challenging him, and him responding with
beauty. And others joining in to join in and enhancing the beauty/joy. I'm happy to say
that resonated with him.
Of course it was part of a rehearsed program but rehearsed plays still are calculated
to evoke a response based on an accepted fiction. I'm pretty sure my grandson understood
that there was an element of planned fiction to the whole thing but there is a value in
that thing we call 'willing suspension of disbelief'.
Again, I think this is relevant to the OP's bemoaning some asserted lack of positive
emotions in the modern world. They are simply wrong. Joy is there to be found if
your eyes are open, and your heart is open. It's a message worth repeating.
André G. Isaak
Nov 17, 2021, 8:40:20 PM11/17/21
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you prefer), and that the adults are clearly singing her praises.
André
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