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d...@maine.bitnet.uucp

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Dec 5, 1987, 11:49:44 AM12/5/87
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I'm really starting to get pissed at the way the saturday morning
cartoon 'editors' (read: Butchers) are hacking TO DEATH my favorite
childhood cartoon, Bugs Bunny. AAAARRRRGFGGGHHHH!!!! THIS IS
NIGH ON TO CENSORSHIP!!!! What about us adults who still like to
watch the last remaining bastions of good cartooning? HUH?! WE
*LIKE* Bugs with violence!

Michael Dow
Systems Group, UM

head...@csd4.milw.wisc.edu.uucp

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Dec 6, 1987, 3:01:36 PM12/6/87
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Hear, hear!

"It's really *duck* season....<BLAM>"

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O FROM THE REALM OF THE DOUGHNUT DUKE O
O (alias M-M-Max, the Krazy Klingon.) O
O O
O head...@csd4.milw.wisc.edu O
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O "Time to make the doughnuts." O
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k...@homxb.uucp

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Dec 7, 1987, 9:27:11 AM12/7/87
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Ya, and you can't even find any road runner cartoons anymore.

Where will this end?
Cindy

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sp...@bu-cs.uucp

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Dec 8, 1987, 9:32:28 AM12/8/87
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In article <38...@uwmcsd1.UUCP> head...@csd4.milw.wisc.edu.UUCP (Mark Lippert) writes:
>Hear, hear!
>
>"It's really *duck* season....<BLAM>"

"Wabbit season"
"Duck season"
"Wabbit season"
"Duck season"
"Wabbit season"
"Duck season"
"Wabbit season"
"Wabbit season"
"Duck season SHOOT! <BLAM>"--
->Spike

Barry Shein

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Dec 16, 1987, 9:43:18 PM12/16/87
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At Cornell I had a professor who was on the President's Commission on
Child's Violence on Television (or something like that, under the
Kennedy administration.)

He claimed that the commission never recommended that violence be
removed or censored from children's television programming, at least
not for any reasons they were concerned with (that is, there's no
accounting for taste, but they were commissioned to deal with
deleterious effects.)

According to him (and I hope I am remembering this fairly) the
recommendation was only against violence of unrealistic outcome,
violence without consequence thus promoting fantastical views of
violence and its results. For example, they felt that heros who are
obviously fatally shot but heroically manage to defy their murderers
or whatever is probably an unrealistic image, another example was your
typical barroom brawl where it always seems no one is ever much
injured (if you've ever been in a fight of the violence typically
shown in a Western, bottles breaking, chairs smashed, you'd know that
half those people would require emergency medical attention.)

Unfortunately the media people found the prospect of realistic
violence for children's programming untenable, from a marketing
perspective (see, real violence grosses people out, as it should) so
they declared that the president's commission had "outlawed" violence
in children's programming.

Of course, they were outraged at the interpretation, it was an obvious
cheap attempt to discredit the findings of the committee.

Anyhow, I found it interesting...they may not have approved of your
Bugs Bunny cartoons anyhow, I doubt Bugs pukes and shits and screams
and cries for his life as a steam roller does him in. Eh, no sense of
humor.

-Barry Shein, Boston University

Edison Carter

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Dec 30, 1987, 11:13:18 AM12/30/87
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> In article <125DOW@MAINE>, D...@MAINE.BITNET (Michael R. Dow) writes:

> > I'm really starting to get pissed at the way the saturday morning
> > cartoon 'editors' (read: Butchers) are hacking TO DEATH my favorite
> > childhood cartoon, Bugs Bunny. AAAARRRRGFGGGHHHH!!!! THIS IS

I agree.

But does anyone know what in the hell that the censors cut out
of that classic, "Merry Xmas, Charlie Brown." It seems that there
are a lot of discontinuities in there where scenes were ripped out.

HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant
Ninja Babies?" How 'bout those toy stores. AAAUUUUGGGHHHHH.

Try watching your local stations' cartoon programs. Generally,
the classics are uncut (recently, I saw some WWII anti-Axis Bugs
being presented as entertainment to the kids...)

David Anthony
DataSpan, Inc

Roger B.A. Klorese

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Jan 4, 1988, 10:42:50 PM1/4/88
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In article <8...@unccvax.UUCP> d...@unccvax.UUCP (Edison Carter) writes:
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>HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Babies?"

"Turtles", actually, not "Babies". And it was a comic book first (and
many feel it a fine one), not a toy. The toy set is a spinoff of the
comic, like the cartoons are. (I suppose that since "Peanuts" begat
Snoopy dolls as well as the Charlie Brown specials, the shows are
program-length commercials?)

I object to program-length commercials a lot. But try not to see them
where they're not.
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G. Murdock Helms

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Jan 5, 1988, 12:08:28 PM1/5/88
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In article <19...@celtics.UUCP>, ro...@celtics.UUCP (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
> In article <8...@unccvax.UUCP> d...@unccvax.UUCP (Edison Carter) writes:
> >
> >HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Babies?"
>
> "Turtles", actually, not "Babies". And it was a comic book first

Not a bad comic book, either. Which begat the role-playing game, which
begat the lead figures (which are actually pretty good, if somewhat on
the small side), which begat Pre-Pubescent Radioactive Black-Belt Hamsters
(I kid you not, folks, check your underground comic store for that one),
which begat all sorts of other nonsense, and on it goes...


Murdock

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Jeff Boeing

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Jan 11, 1988, 11:14:22 PM1/11/88
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In article <14...@aurora.UUCP> time...@aurora.UUCP (G. "Murdock" Helms) writes:
>In article <19...@celtics.UUCP>, ro...@celtics.UUCP (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>> In article <8...@unccvax.UUCP> d...@unccvax.UUCP (Edison Carter) writes:
>> >
>> >HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Babies?"
>>
>> "Turtles", actually, not "Babies". And it was a comic book first
>
>Not a bad comic book, either. Which begat the role-playing game, which
>begat the lead figures (which are actually pretty good, if somewhat on
>the small side), which begat Pre-Pubescent Radioactive Black-Belt Hamsters
>(I kid you not, folks, check your underground comic store for that one),
>which begat all sorts of other nonsense, and on it goes...

Actually, the hamsters were Adolescent, not Pre-Pubescent.
...Which, in turn, begat (and I'm not kidding either) ...
Naive Interdimensional Commando Koalas!

the Mad Piper

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Jan 12, 1988, 9:58:15 PM1/12/88
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From article <10...@stb.UUCP>, by tra...@stb.UUCP (Jeff Boeing):

> Actually, the hamsters were Adolescent, not Pre-Pubescent.

Sorry, my apologies. I wasn't paying that much attention at the time.

> ...Which, in turn, begat (and I'm not kidding either) ...
> Naive Interdimensional Commando Koalas!

Oooh! Really? Where can I find them? Haven't seen THOSE in Berzerkeley
yet.

If you aren't much into comics except for REALLY GOOD ones, do check out
the large Volume One edition of "Mage", published by Comico, I think it
was. Some wonderful artwork, and a truly unusual storyline here (a magic
bat? Say what?). Volume Two should be coming out soon (Mage was originally
released in standard Comico-comic-book-format (read: better quality paper
and binding than Big Name comic co.s) and has been re-released at the end
of its series in a Volume-type-format due to popular demand).

Also check out "The Adventures of Samurai Cat" and "More Adventures of
Samurai Cat", which is wonderfully tongue-in-cheek and pokes fun at
lots and lots of things and includes some rather nice artwork of
Miaowara Tomokato, Samurai Cat. Available at most Waldenbooks, and if
it isn't, screech and wail and foam at the mouth and I'm reasonably
certain they'll order it for you just to keep you from biting them
on the leg and giving them rabies.

Arf! Arf! Woof!
The Mad Piper (whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnne....)

nj @ a loss

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Jan 14, 1988, 10:20:45 PM1/14/88
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For the definitive list of all future "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" parodies,
read "Gnatrat: The Dark Gnat Returns," available from Prelude Comics or
some other such agency.

nj

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"The Force is a Force and a Force, of course..."

eric townsend

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Jan 17, 1988, 10:01:49 PM1/17/88
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In article <19...@celtics.UUCP>, ro...@celtics.UUCP (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
> In article <8...@unccvax.UUCP> d...@unccvax.UUCP (Edison Carter) writes:
> >
> >HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Babies?"
>
> "Turtles", actually, not "Babies". And it was a comic book first (and
> many feel it a fine one), not a toy. The toy set is a spinoff of the
> comic, like the cartoons are. (I suppose that since "Peanuts" begat
> Snoopy dolls as well as the Charlie Brown specials, the shows are
> program-length commercials?)

I checked the credits on two or three of the afternoon/sat. morn shows.
It appears to me that the 'program lenght commercials' are usually
made overseas (in Japan and China) rather than in America.

Recently there was a news special (on PBS, I think) about animators in
Japan and China. They are currently in the stage that the Disney
studios were in the 30s-50s: A few mavericks with great ideas backed
by hundreds of high school/college students working for the
equivalent of slave labor. Combine that with their using the Asian
version of Pixar equipment... It seems to me that they've realised
a huge potential for high profits in aiding the marketing of American
products targeted at children.

On the other hand, on of the major studios in China is about to produce
the first full-length, all Chinese writen/produced/etc feature film.
It's based on an old Chinese childrens tale, and from the clips they
showed on the special, it's going to be one hell of a film.
Their goal for this movie: To produce a film better than Fantasia.
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Steve Ardron

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Jan 20, 1988, 2:45:20 PM1/20/88
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Somebody was saying:

> > >HOW ABOUT THOSE PROGRAM LENGTH COMMERCIALS. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Babies?"
> >
> > "Turtles", actually, not "Babies". And it was a comic book first
>
> Not a bad comic book, either. Which begat the role-playing game, which
> begat the lead figures (which are actually pretty good, if somewhat on
> the small side), which begat Pre-Pubescent Radioactive Black-Belt Hamsters
> (I kid you not, folks, check your underground comic store for that one),
> which begat all sorts of other nonsense, and on it goes...

Don't forget Pre-Teen Dirty-Gene Kung-Fu Kangeroos - I don't usually read any
comics, but I saw that title in a book-store once. (I may have screwed the
spelling). It's getting kind of ridiculous, I hope they are actually worth
looking at, personally I didn't bother. I can't see what's wrong with these
feature length commercials that a big nuke wouldn't fix, though there are
many more pressing problems. Does it matter if the toy begets show or if
show begets toy? Theres a fine line there.
Stevie.

Brandoch Daha

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Jan 25, 1988, 2:52:55 AM1/25/88
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In article <5...@crcmar.crc.uucp> st...@crcmar.crc.uucp (Steve Ardron) writes:
> Pre-Pubescent Radioactive Black-Belt Hamsters

> Pre-Teen Dirty-Gene Kung-Fu Kangeroos - I don't usually read any
Beardless Breeder-reactor Boxing Bobcats?
Immature Irradiated Internecine Inchworms?
Geriatric Jujitsu Gerbils?
Miami Mice?

How about Bruce Lee, reincarnated as Samurai Penguin?

Or Zatoichi Walrus?
Or even the Tender Tai Chi Tapirs?


( Yet again, I must plead to St. Theresa,
Show me how you do that trick, the one that makes me scream, she said

because I don't have any screaming tricks. I will give you two gaspers
and a faint in trade.)

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