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Kent Paul Dolan

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:52:34 PM9/29/09
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Here I sit, vibrating, accessing the Internet with
my cable modem broadband connection.

Outside, workers with shovels, jackhammers, and
pick-axes are tearing up the ground right beside the
apartment complex to "fix" our cable service with
new cabling.

Jeanette can't sleep because of the noise, though
she needs a nap, but the bed is shaking enough that
she's getting a free massage.

I do not foresee a happy outcome to this activity
w.r.t. my _current_ cable modem service.

"Using a jackhammer to install fiber optics" should
become the new meme for "guaranteed disaster".

FWIW

xanthian.

Ace Lightning

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Sep 30, 2009, 6:48:00 AM9/30/09
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
>"Using a jackhammer to install fiber optics" should
>become the new meme for "guaranteed disaster".

i sincerely doubt that they're using the jackhammer to
install the fiber-optic cable. they just have to break
through the pavement to get to the underground cable
conduits, through which they will string the fiber.

almost the entire Verizon service area is now hooked up
with FiOS. except, of course, for the quaint little
fishing village where i live...

Kent Paul Dolan

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Sep 30, 2009, 6:20:03 PM9/30/09
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Ace Lightning wrote:
> Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

>> "Using a jackhammer to install fiber optics"
>> should become the new meme for "guaranteed
>> disaster".

> i sincerely doubt that they're using the
> jackhammer to install the fiber-optic cable. they
> just have to break through the pavement to get to
> the underground cable conduits, through which they
> will string the fiber.

Well, I wasn't around to see the final connections,
so I'm not too sure how far the use of jackhammers
was part of the process, but what is now coming up
out of the holes they dug beneath each vertical set
of apartments looks approximately like plumbing for
outdoor water faucets, with a riser, an elbow, and
then a pipe penetrating (cold shower, beelz, NOW)
into the wall.

> almost the entire Verizon service area is now
> hooked up with FiOS. except, of course, for the
> quaint little fishing village where i live...

One of the very few revenges we who are stuck living
in compressed-people-bia gain over you remote and
picturesque village dwellers, is that we get better
broadband earlier.

xanthian.

sid

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Sep 30, 2009, 8:43:40 PM9/30/09
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Ace Lightning

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Oct 2, 2009, 2:43:52 PM10/2/09
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
>>i sincerely doubt that they're using the
>>jackhammer to install the fiber-optic cable. they
>>just have to break through the pavement to get to
>>the underground cable conduits, through which they
>>will string the fiber.
>Well, I wasn't around to see the final connections,
>so I'm not too sure how far the use of jackhammers
>was part of the process, but what is now coming up
>out of the holes they dug beneath each vertical set
>of apartments looks approximately like plumbing for
>outdoor water faucets, with a riser, an elbow, and
>then a pipe penetrating (cold shower, beelz, NOW)
>into the wall.

exactly. the fiber-optic cable, like coaxial cable or
even plain old telco cable, runs through protective
conduits.

>>almost the entire Verizon service area is now
>>hooked up with FiOS. except, of course, for the
>>quaint little fishing village where i live...
>One of the very few revenges we who are stuck living
>in compressed-people-bia gain over you remote and
>picturesque village dwellers, is that we get better
>broadband earlier.

up until a few years ago, i lived about ten miles away from
here - i still do most of my grocery shopping in the same
supermarkets i went to before i moved. shortly before i moved,
Verizon was in the process of installing fiber in my old
neighborhood, although they didn't activate it until a couple
of years later. my quaint little fishing village *is*
picturesque, but it isn't remote - i can see the Manhattan
skyline from my upstairs window. however, i'm so far from a
telco "central office" that i couldn't get DSL when i moved
here. which is why i'm stuck with Comcast Cable for broadband.

however, there's a little coffee shoppe less than a block away,
which offers free WiFi to its customers... and the WiFi is
always on, even when the place is closed. visitors who have been
here with laptop computers have used the coffee shoppe's WiFi
with no trouble at all. if i had a laptop, so could i.

Gary Heston

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Oct 2, 2009, 9:06:30 PM10/2/09
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In article <ha5hla$8qi$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Ace Lightning <acelig...@monmouth.com> wrote:
[ ... ]

>however, there's a little coffee shoppe less than a block away,
>which offers free WiFi to its customers... and the WiFi is
>always on, even when the place is closed. visitors who have been
>here with laptop computers have used the coffee shoppe's WiFi
>with no trouble at all. if i had a laptop, so could i.

You don't need a laptop, just an adapter--here are a few examples
from a local store:

http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0039

http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0080

http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0084

Got an open PCI slot?


Gary

--
Gary Heston ghe...@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Where large, expensive pieces of exotic woods are converted to valueless,
hard to dispose of sawdust, chips and scraps." Charlie B.s' definition of
woodworking.

nikolai kingsley

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Oct 2, 2009, 11:36:19 PM10/2/09
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> Got an open PCI slot?
>


that is the cheesiest chat-up line i've heard since "USB 2.0 y/n?".

David P.

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Oct 3, 2009, 1:21:26 AM10/3/09
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Kent Paul Dolan <xanth...@well.com> wrote:
> Here I sit, vibrating, accessing the Internet with
> my cable modem broadband connection.
>
> Outside, workers with shovels, jackhammers, and
> pick-axes are tearing up the ground right beside the
> apartment complex to "fix" our cable service with
> new cabling.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30377179/aview/pest01.JPG

Bob Bain

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Oct 3, 2009, 1:27:41 AM10/3/09
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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:36:19 +1000, nikolai kingsley
<sher...@invalid.alphalink.com.au> wrote:

>that is the cheesiest chat-up line i've heard since "USB 2.0 y/n?".

the cheesy version of Vegemite (iSnack 2.0) has been discontinued due
to overwhelming negative consumer sentiment. (they've decided to
rename it - USB 2.0 sounds fine to me !)

Ace Lightning

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Oct 3, 2009, 1:35:16 AM10/3/09
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Gary Heston wrote:
>You don't need a laptop, just an adapter--here are a few examples
>from a local store:
> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0039
> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0080
> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0084
>Got an open PCI slot?

unfortunately, no. but a USB dongle might work - the one i got
for trying to transfer homemade ringtones to my cell phone does,
although the phone's software won't allow me to transfer the files.

Ace Lightning

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Oct 3, 2009, 1:35:51 AM10/3/09
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nikolai kingsley wrote:
>>Got an open PCI slot?
>that is the cheesiest chat-up line i've heard since "USB 2.0 y/n?".

"a/s/l?"

sid

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Oct 3, 2009, 3:50:14 PM10/3/09
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Ace Lightning wrote:
> Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
>>> i sincerely doubt that they're using the
... wait a minute, you say 'seriouly like there might be a 'fake' doubt?
i don't think so.

sid
ps;
i won't believe it 'till i drr it in s link

Kent Paul Dolan

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Oct 4, 2009, 12:19:27 AM10/4/09
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Gary Heston wrote:
> Ace Lightning <acelig...@monmouth.com> wrote:

> [ ... ]

>> however, there's a little coffee shoppe less than
>> a block away, which offers free WiFi to its
>> customers... and the WiFi is always on, even when
>> the place is closed. visitors who have been here
>> with laptop computers have used the coffee
>> shoppe's WiFi with no trouble at all. if i had a
>> laptop, so could i.

> You don't need a laptop, just an adapter--here are
> a few examples from a local store:

> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0039

> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0080

> http://www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=NW0084

> Got an open PCI slot?

Also, it's not the most legal thing in the world to
do (the FCC may nail you) but I've seen an antenna
used to access library WiFi from outside of the
library (sticking out of a car's moon roof, looking
like a sponge mop at first glance).

xanthian.

Ace Lightning

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Oct 4, 2009, 4:48:22 AM10/4/09
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
>Also, it's not the most legal thing in the world to
>do (the FCC may nail you) but I've seen an antenna
>used to access library WiFi from outside of the
>library (sticking out of a car's moon roof, looking
>like a sponge mop at first glance).

alas, i'd have to have not only a laptop, but a *car*,
to do that. (i could build the antenna myself.)

Gary Heston

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Oct 4, 2009, 5:04:27 PM10/4/09
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In article <ha97ok$pb5$1...@news.albasani.net>,
Kent Paul Dolan <xant...@well.com> wrote:
[ ... ]

>Also, it's not the most legal thing in the world to
>do (the FCC may nail you) but I've seen an antenna
>used to access library WiFi from outside of the
>library (sticking out of a car's moon roof, looking
>like a sponge mop at first glance).

If the library is providing public access WiFi, then
the FCC won't care. Using a directional antenna for
WiFi is common, and legal; they're routinely used to
bridge a network between two buildings over short
distances.

The FCC will only care if someone has boosted the RF
output on their hardware (some WAPs allow the user to
do that) and it's causing interference.

What gets people into trouble is using WiFi from a
business which provides access for their customers
while not patronizing the business. So, either be a
customer, or get permission first.

Kent Paul Dolan

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Oct 5, 2009, 12:39:35 AM10/5/09
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Well, no. As Gary Heston noted, you can put an
adapter on your current console computer for WiFi.
If you're as close to the WiFi point as you say, an
antenna pointed to it right through the walls of
your office should let you use their WiFi from your
desk. I have a handful of WiFi signals I'm picking
up with good strength in my apartment, with no clue
where the point of origin for each is physically.
WiFi is not nearly as short range as you are led to
believe. From a block away, you might get a strong
enough signal _without_ a booster antenna.

A Google search for

WiFi booster antenna

gets almost 4 million hits, so the idea isn't very
cryptic. This site is especially hilarious; build
your booster antenna from a tin can and some Radio
Shack adapter bits:

http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html

xanthian.

Bob Bain

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Oct 7, 2009, 7:52:20 PM10/7/09
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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:27:41 +1000, I wrote:

> the cheesy version of Vegemite (iSnack 2.0) has been discontinued due
>to overwhelming negative consumer sentiment. (they've decided to
>rename it - USB 2.0 sounds fine to me !)

They've renamed it CHEESYBITE !

(none the less it tastes the same)

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