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Budikka666

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:18:43 PM1/3/10
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Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
even their own God has called them liars. Here's one example:
http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flipping.php
"The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
field behaviour. '

200 million years of history written in the rocks.

Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.

Budikka

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:28:54 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 8:18 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
> least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
> or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
> even their own God has called them liars.  Here's one example:http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...

> "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
> basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
> evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
> continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
> field behaviour. '
>
> 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>
> Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
> calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>
> Budikka

Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are
trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
Creator a foot in the door. As for old age earth...it only has that
appearance --- afterall, isnt that what Militant Atheist Guru Dawkins
has to say about extraordinary design that is before us ?

Pink Freud

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:16:26 AM1/4/10
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"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:04032a5b-a216-49f2...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

> On Jan 3, 8:18 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
>> least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
>> or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
>> even their own God has called them liars. Here's one
>> example:http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...
>> "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
>> basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
>> evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
>> continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
>> field behaviour. '
>>
>> 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>>
>> Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
>> calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>>
>> Budikka
>
> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said

Is he that weird guy in the room full of TVs, out of the Matrix movies?
We should be told.

Free Lunch

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:20:36 AM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 04:28:54 -0800 (PST), "IlBe...@gmail.com"
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

>On Jan 3, 8:18�pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
>> least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
>> or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
>> even their own God has called them liars. �Here's one example:http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...
>> "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
>> basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
>> evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
>> continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
>> field behaviour. '
>>
>> 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>>
>> Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
>> calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said

But we all know that no one has any idea what "the Creator of the
Universe" said or even if there was such a creator. All we have is your
unsupported claim that the Bible is God's word. You know that nothing
supports your claim. Why do you continue to repeat it as if you have
evidence to back it up when you have no evidence at all?

>regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are
>trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
>everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
>Creator a foot in the door. As for old age earth...it only has that
>appearance --- afterall, isnt that what Militant Atheist Guru Dawkins
>has to say about extraordinary design that is before us ?

Why do you continue the following behavior:

Worship your ignorance. Celebrate your foolishness. Blame God.

Ken

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:00:29 AM1/4/10
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Still waiting, Dimwit.....

Uncle Vic

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:22:01 PM1/4/10
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
> regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are
> trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
> everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
> Creator a foot in the door. As for old age earth...it only has that
> appearance --- afterall, isnt that what Militant Atheist Guru Dawkins
> has to say about extraordinary design that is before us ?

Cro-magnon man believed in gods too. I know this because it supports what
I just said.

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.

Budikka666

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:03:52 PM1/4/10
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Unmet challenge #1
The challenge I offered you in this thread:
http://tinyurl.com/nubnxr
on May 11th 2009, only to see you RUN AWAY.

Unmet challenge #2
Provide *positive*, *scientific* evidence *for* a creation. Not Bible
quotes. Not quotes from creationists or atheists or evolutionists.
Not divine revelation. Not juvenile unsupported ignorant assertions.
Not chants of 'no it isn't!'. Not counter challenges when you haven't
even met ours, but *positive*, *scientific* evidence *for* a creation.

Unmet challenge #3
Provide evidence that shows how DNA is the work of a creator. Show us
this evidence and explain how it demonstrates a creator.

Unmet challenge #4
Support claims that bacteria have never arisen from anything other
than bacteria/life has never arisen from anything but life.

Unmet challenge #5
Provide evidence in support of the creationist claim that information
cannot be added to a genome.

Unmet challenge #6
Define scientifically what the "genetic boundaries" are: specifically
what the mechanism is which (according to creationist claims) prevents
one species from evolving into another species over time.

Unmet Challenge #7
Provide your scientific evidence (as opposed to your LYING,
unsupported bullshit, which has been refuted repeatedly) to support
your creationist claim that life cannot arise from organic chemistry,
when scientists have repeatedly demonstrated that the truth is quite
to the contrary

Unmet Challenge #8
Prove that there's a god out there waiting to judge me when I die.
Otherwise you and your creationist fundie ilk are nothing but pathetic
LIARS and FRAUDS.

Unmet Challenge #9
Prove that we have a soul. Demonstrate scientifically where it is and
what its purpose is.

Unmet Challenge #10
Prove that this fictional Jesus isn't fictional and that he literally
died and that he came back to life and went to Heaven.

Here's a list of the strongest advocates of creation on Usenet WHO
HAVE FLED one or more of these challenges:
Chicken Adman
Chicken Andrew
Chicken BAM
Chicken Brother Ted
Chicken Codebreaker
Chicken Curtjester1
Chicken Duke
Chicken Gabriel
Chicken I'll Be Bauck
Chicken Pastor Dave

Let's face it, NOT A SINGLE creationist on Usenet has been able to
find the guts to face these challenges. This fictional god of theirs
has deserted every one of these liars and frauds That's what a sad,
pathetic and vacuous bunch of lousy, low-life scum they are.

Case closed. End of story. End of You.

Budikka

Ken

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:15:40 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 2:03 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Unmet challenge #1
> The challenge I offered you in this thread:http://tinyurl.com/nubnxr
> on May 11th 2009, only to see you RUN AWAY.

> Let's face it, NOT A SINGLE creationist on Usenet has been able to


> find the guts to face these challenges.  This fictional god of theirs
> has deserted every one of these liars and frauds  That's what a sad,
> pathetic and vacuous bunch of lousy, low-life scum they are.
>
> Case closed.  End of story.  End of You.
>
> Budikka

Come on Dimwit Dumbshit.
You said it:
IlBeBa...@gmail.com posted this statement and then ran away (as
usual): "However, THIS one is Creationists can certainly prove an
intelligent
Designer/Creator for the Cosmos"

Now back up your bullshit, Fat Ass!

panam...@hotmail.com

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:35:17 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 7:28 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 8:18 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
> > least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
> > or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
> > even their own God has called them liars.  Here's one example:http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...
> > "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
> > basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
> > evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
> > continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
> > field behaviour. '
>
> > 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>
> > Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
> > calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of

snip crap

It is far wiser to actually read something written *this* century.
Take your shitty little Mideastern fairy tales and go do whatever it
is you Christians do when you're not molesting children.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

Dave Oldridge

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:08:11 PM1/4/10
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"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:04032a5b-a216-
49f2-9226-6...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:

>On Jan 3, 8:18�pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
>> least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
>> or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
>> even their own God has called them liars. �Here's one
example:http://sc
>ienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...
>> "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
>> basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
>> evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
>> continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
>> field behaviour. '
>>
>> 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>>
>> Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
>> calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
>regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are

We have not heard God say anything about how He is creating the universe.
Scientists (those men in lab coats that you libel) are closer to hearing
His explanation than anyone else has ever been, with one or two possible
exceptions.

>trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
>everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
>Creator a foot in the door. As for old age earth...it only has that
>appearance --- afterall, isnt that what Militant Atheist Guru Dawkins
>has to say about extraordinary design that is before us ?

Right. Your "god" is a liar, either in the creation or the scripture (or
why not both?).

Mine is the creator of all things, visible and invisible. And for my
money, the best way to find out how things came to be is to study their
actual history instead of some misunderstood ancient document that wasn't
even really intended for science (it was politics).

--
Dave Oldridge+


archie dux

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:19:04 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 5:28 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 8:18 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
> > least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
> > or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
> > even their own God has called them liars.  Here's one example:http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flippi...
> > "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
> > basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
> > evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
> > continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
> > field behaviour. '
>
> > 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>
> > Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
> > calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
> regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are
> trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
> everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
> Creator a foot in the door.

God says that if you find out you have leprosy, you should
treat it with yarn, birds, herbs, and the blood of a lamb
on your ear, thumb, and big toe.

The men in white coats say that if you find out you have
leprosy, you should treat it with a combination of three
drugs, a treatment which leads to near-total cures.

If you should be diagnosed with leprosy, which
approach would you use?


archie

Free Lunch

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:26:10 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:19:04 -0800 (PST), archie dux
<architeu...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Jan 4, 5:28�am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 3, 8:18�pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Creationists and fundies have already admitted there is no god - at
>> > least in terms of their 100% failure to provide an iota of objective
>> > or scientific evidence for one, but looked at just from their PoV,
>> > even their own God has called them liars. �Here's one example:

>> > <http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/12/6_fields_a-flipping.php>


>> > "The most visible evidence for this can be found in the world's ocean
>> > basins, where the striped magnetic anomalies that provided compelling
>> > evidence for sea-floor spreading and mid-ocean ridges also provide a
>> > continuous history of the last 200 million years of so of geomagnetic
>> > field behaviour. '
>>
>> > 200 million years of history written in the rocks.
>>
>> > Even if some god actually did shape the Earth, he's quite clearly
>> > calling the young-Earth creationists liars, period.
>>
>> > Budikka
>>
>> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
>> regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats who are
>> trying to find out a different way because of thier inability to know
>> everything and their personal philosophical bias of never giving a
>> Creator a foot in the door.
>
>God says that if you find out you have leprosy, you should
>treat it with yarn, birds, herbs, and the blood of a lamb
>on your ear, thumb, and big toe.

No, there's no evidence God said any such thing. That was said by some
ignorant tribesmen who attributed their ignorance to God. If it didn't
work, it was your fault because this was God's remedy and people who
didn't recover were hated by God, or something.

>The men in white coats say that if you find out you have
>leprosy, you should treat it with a combination of three
>drugs, a treatment which leads to near-total cures.
>
>If you should be diagnosed with leprosy, which
>approach would you use?

Based on what I know about most conservative theists, he will reject the
Biblical 'cure' in two seconds if it's his life on the line. They may
not accept the facts of evolutioin, but they will accept the medicine
that was developed because we understand evolution.

tirebiter

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:43:15 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 7:28 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
> regarding how he created, than to listen to men in white coats

I suspect you've had a lot of experience with men in white coats. And
you probably have good reason to distrust them. They're never very
far from those long-sleeved jackets and pointy needles that make
everything fuzzy.

The so-called creator of the universe is a figment of your
imagination, and has never said a single word. It's all in your
head. Other people conspired to tell you that a deity was involved,
but their only source of that claim is from other people still.

---
a.a. #2273

Brian E. Clark

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:42:42 PM1/5/10
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In article <04032a5b-a216-49f2-9226-
6f329c...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
ilbe...@gmail.com says...

> Its far wiser to trust in what the Creator of the Universe said
> regarding how he created,

God has said nothing. Only people like you, claiming to
speak for God, have said anything.

Look at the liars, dupes and power-hungry hypocrites who
speak for God today. It's easy to surmise that the same
class of people spoke for God 2500 years back. They have no
more to say to us than you do.

God, meanwhile, remains strangely silent.

--
-----------
Brian E. Clark

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