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Morton Lucifer

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:50:59 PM12/19/09
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Richo wrote:
>
> Here are some logically similar constructions:

They have nothing to do with the unanswerable questions atheists
cut and run from becasue they CAN'T ANSWER THEm! B^]


> Atheists claim the Sun is a giant ball of incandescent Hydrogen and
> Helium powered by Nuclear fusion at its core but if this is so, why
> are the great and enduring civilizations in human history based on
> spiritual values?
>
> Atheists claim that human primary sexual characteristics are
> determined by the possession of either a pair of X chromosomes for
> female or an X and Y chromosome for male but if this is so, why are
> the great
> and enduring civilisations in human history based on spiritual
> values?
>
> Atheists claim that Vesuvius is a Volcano in Italy but if this is so,
> why are the great and enduring civilisations in human history based on
> spiritual values?


They are 'logically similar' in that they are IDENTICALLY irrelevant and
pointlessly so.

> And so on...
>
> The truth of the statement before the "but" is completely unrelated to
> the "question" which follows the "but".

And the head of the atheist is completely inserted IN it's 'but';

http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg

> Also the question is itself a real corker.

Then why didn't you use your question rather than your head?

> What exactly is a great and enduring civilisation?

I knew atheists would have no idea!

> Has the earth actually had one yet?

Only those among us who have evolved from knuckle dragging
rock-bangers to wearing iPods on their way to work at NASA
could understand how stupid that question is.. even for an atheist!


> Was Rome great? Did it endure?

Er, sorry to break it to you, dumbo. but Rome STILL endures! B^]

[Jeez .. what a nutjob! B^]

> It was great in some ways it endured for some time.

So you agree it was great, and endured, but you don't
know if Rome was a civilisation!? pfffffft


Why are you wasting my time?

> It was filled with spiritual beliefs - religions abounded

And it lasted as a mighty empire for centuries.

Every atheist regime in history has been a catastrophic failure
which imploded within a few decades.

> Was Rome Great?

Yes.

> Did it Endure?

Sure.


> Wasn't the Soviet union part and parcel of western civilisation

No, that's why they were called the Eastern Bloc. B^p

Rome Was the Western Church, Constantinople was the Eastern.

Why are you bothering us when you are so clearly ignorant
of even the basics of the history of Western Civilisation?


> was Hitlers germany)? Where do we draw the lines marking the
> boundaries of civilisation?

If you have to ask if Hitler's Nazi regime is civilised I suggest
yo fuck off and get a clue! pffft!

>
>> There has never been a great and
>> enduring atheist civilisation,
>
> There has never been an atheist civilisation at all!

Exactly!

It is not even in the race! B^D


Atheism makes many claims - "Atheism is a rational
position", "Atheism is free of the dogma of primitive
superstition".. but if this is so, why are the great
and enduring civilisations in human history based on
spiritual values? There has never been a great and
enduring atheist civilisation, and every atheist state
has been a totalitarian tyranny - the Union of Savage
Slaughter and Repression (USSR), Mao's Great Leap
Backwards and Cultural Devolution, Pol Pots Cambodian
Genocide.

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

In a mere 70 years these atheist tyrannies, terrorised
tortured and killed over 70,000,000 people, more than the
followers of any religion in all of human history.

The proof that atheism is at best an ineffectual, impotent
sub branch of nihilism, and at worst a dangerous and deadly
dogma is that every atheist chooses to live in open,
democratic MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies where their rights
are protected, than in the last of the atheist states, North
Korea.


--

95 Theses for Atheist Reformation

All belief systems ossify over time.

Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
but his church pursued the latter.

Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.

And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.

What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of revival and rebirth;
Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter

In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;

The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM

Gentleman, TO ARMs!


Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!

fasgnadh wrote:

# By the time we get to the Enlightenment people understood that
# a God who stops you from hitting the ground when you fall over,
# is a puppet master controlling automatons, not the creator
# of autonomous beings with free will and responsibility.
#
# Still the atheists cling to their simplistic caricatures.
#
# They even blame the god they claim not to believe in, for NOT
# STOPPING the mass murders of the atheist holocausts!!! 8^o
#
# http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:10645?context=latest
#
# As alt.atheism shows they share the fundamentalists LITERAL reading
# of the Bible, believing that their ignorant misunderstandings of
# metaphor shows faults in the text.
#
#
# The fundamentalists are like Philistines staring at the Venus de Milo,
# and complaining that it is not anatomically correct:
#
# "Where's the ARMS" they wail, to the amusement of Art Historians
# and art lovers alike!

Well, I am here to RESTORE the ARMs, and with it, decency and
respectability to atheism..

# In the 19th century, Nietzsche Freud and Marx, all singularly
# unimpressive individuals, (respectively disturbed, neurotic,
# and misogynist) advanced theories rejecting God. And laid
# the groundwork for the totalitarian horrors of the 20th Century.
#
# The worst barbarity occurred in the 'Modern'(sic) Era, when God
# had been proclaimed Dead in the hearts of man, Religion declared
# the Opium of the people, and the sexuality of the neurotic Viennese
# Bourgeois became the central obsession of mankind.
#
# Gas chambers and Gulags, millions systematically tortured terrorised
# and murdered, churches burned, then entire cities, priests killed then
# entire communities.. the Atheist shitholes were the worst and most
# miserable, and their peoples could not wait for them to be assigned
# to the dustbin of FAILED experiments.
#
# And yet modern atheists, like modern Nazis, refuse to acknowledge
# the holocausts carried out by THEIR ideology, in every case where it
# came to power! 8^o
#
#
# Atheism needs REFORM.
#
# It has become a haven of Blind Faith and Dogma
#
# Morton Lucifer needs to nail his 95 Theses to the door
# of Dawkin's house.. or perhaps to his forehead...! B^D
#
# and launch the ATHEIST REFORMATION!!! B^D

I have heard the call of long suffering atheists tired of
the corruption and violence perpetrated in their name,
who remember when atheism was a simple personal belief,
not a violent and repressive political ideology that has
terrorised, tortured and carried out Mass Murder and Crimes
against humanity in half the world!


I call on all the decent, well meaning atheists to join ARM,
the Atheist Reformation Movement, and purge it of the rabid
and dogmatic fanatics which have seized the movement and made
it anathema to all rational minds and decent folk.

Atheism, if it is to survive, must cease it's historical
association with Mass Murder, torture, terror, repression,
anti-theist persecution and pogrom, mass murder and other Crimes
against Humanity.

It must take stock, become more humble, in accordance with it's
insignificance, morally, intellectually, socially, numerically,
culturally, in Science and politically.. it is after all simply
a belief, unprovable, with no relevance to, or importance to normal
life. The Theists have already created rational secular societies
protecting the freedoms of all. Atheists must stop being mere whiners,
and barking mongrel dogs.

Perhaps a vow of silence and retreat to a monastery is in their best
interests, as befits a tiny, impotent and irrelevant sub-branch of
Nihilism.

> Atheism is now, in the hands of Dawkins and Hitchins, a populist
> dogma. It still tries to wear the mantle of science, aided in this
> by the (mostly American) Creationist morons, who cannot understand
> that creation does not unfold according to THEIR understanding,
>
>
> The Big Bang, the fundamental scientific theory of the origin of the
> Universe, was developed by Monsignor Georges Lema�tre, a Catholic
> Prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic
> University of Leuven!
>
> Religion is clearly NO IMPEDIMENT to rational science!
>
> That title belongs to the Atheist tyrannies, the Union of Savage
> Slaughter and Repression, Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural
> Devolution, and Pol Pots Year Zero genocide.
>
> Not only science, but art, music, culture and all of
> human society entered a Dark Age during the Atheist tyrannies!
>
>
> Atheism, given the chance, did NOT usher in a new, rational Utopia,
> but immersed millions in misery and despair.
>
> The problem for atheists is, there is not much there to RE FORM! B^D


I will do what I can with what there is.

Even animal dung can be used to daub the walls of peasant huts! B^)


--

95 Theses for Atheist Reformation

All belief systems ossify over time.

Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
but his church pursued the latter.

Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.

And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.

What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of revival and rebirth;
Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter

In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;

The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM

Gentleman, TO ARMs!


Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!

fasgnadh wrote:

# By the time we get to the Enlightenment people understood that
# a God who stops you from hitting the ground when you fall over,
# is a puppet master controlling automatons, not the creator
# of autonomous beings with free will and responsibility.
#
# Still the atheists cling to their simplistic caricatures.
#
# They even blame the god they claim not to believe in, for NOT
# STOPPING the mass murders of the atheist holocausts!!! 8^o
#
# http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:10645?context=latest
#
# As alt.atheism shows they share the fundamentalists LITERAL reading
# of the Bible, believing that their ignorant misunderstandings of
# metaphor shows faults in the text.
#
#
# The fundamentalists are like Philistines staring at the Venus de Milo,
# and complaining that it is not anatomically correct:
#
# "Where's the ARMS" they wail, to the amusement of Art Historians
# and art lovers alike!

Well, I am here to RESTORE the ARMs, and with it, decency and
respectability to atheism..

# In the 19th century, Nietzsche Freud and Marx, all singularly
# unimpressive individuals, (respectively disturbed, neurotic,
# and misogynist) advanced theories rejecting God. And laid
# the groundwork for the totalitarian horrors of the 20th Century.
#
# The worst barbarity occurred in the 'Modern'(sic) Era, when God
# had been proclaimed Dead in the hearts of man, Religion declared
# the Opium of the people, and the sexuality of the neurotic Viennese
# Bourgeois became the central obsession of mankind.
#
# Gas chambers and Gulags, millions systematically tortured terrorised
# and murdered, churches burned, then entire cities, priests killed then
# entire communities.. the Atheist shitholes were the worst and most
# miserable, and their peoples could not wait for them to be assigned
# to the dustbin of FAILED experiments.
#
# And yet modern atheists, like modern Nazis, refuse to acknowledge
# the holocausts carried out by THEIR ideology, in every case where it
# came to power! 8^o
#
#
# Atheism needs REFORM.
#
# It has become a haven of Blind Faith and Dogma
#
# Morton Lucifer needs to nail his 95 Theses to the door
# of Dawkin's house.. or perhaps to his forehead...! B^D
#
# and launch the ATHEIST REFORMATION!!! B^D

I have heard the call of long suffering atheists tired of
the corruption and violence perpetrated in their name,
who remember when atheism was a simple personal belief,
not a violent and repressive political ideology that has
terrorised, tortured and carried out Mass Murder and Crimes
against humanity in half the world!


I call on all the decent, well meaning atheists to join ARM,
the Atheist Reformation Movement, and purge it of the rabid
and dogmatic fanatics which have seized the movement and made
it anathema to all rational minds and decent folk.

Atheism, if it is to survive, must cease it's historical
association with Mass Murder, torture, terror, repression,
anti-theist persecution and pogrom, mass murder and other Crimes
against Humanity.

It must take stock, become more humble, in accordance with it's
insignificance, morally, intellectually, socially, numerically,
culturally, in Science and politically.. it is after all simply
a belief, unprovable, with no relevance to, or importance to normal
life. The Theists have already created rational secular societies
protecting the freedoms of all. Atheists must stop being mere whiners,
and barking mongrel dogs.

Perhaps a vow of silence and retreat to a monastery is in their best
interests, as befits a tiny, impotent and irrelevant sub-branch of
Nihilism.

> Atheism is now, in the hands of Dawkins and Hitchins, a populist
> dogma. It still tries to wear the mantle of science, aided in this
> by the (mostly American) Creationist morons, who cannot understand
> that creation does not unfold according to THEIR understanding,
>
>
> The Big Bang, the fundamental scientific theory of the origin of the
> Universe, was developed by Monsignor Georges Lema�tre, a Catholic
> Prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic
> University of Leuven!
>
> Religion is clearly NO IMPEDIMENT to rational science!
>
> That title belongs to the Atheist tyrannies, the Union of Savage
> Slaughter and Repression, Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural
> Devolution, and Pol Pots Year Zero genocide.
>
> Not only science, but art, music, culture and all of
> human society entered a Dark Age during the Atheist tyrannies!
>
>
> Atheism, given the chance, did NOT usher in a new, rational Utopia,
> but immersed millions in misery and despair.
>
> The problem for atheists is, there is not much there to RE FORM! B^D


I will do what I can with what there is.

Even animal dung can be used to daub the walls of peasant huts! B^)

fasgnadh

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:53:41 AM12/20/09
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Zapp Brannigan wrote:
> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>> Pink Freud wrote:
>>
>>> <snip dishonest, moronic, crap>
>>> <plonk>
>>
>> Subject header PROVEN once again:
>>
>> "the unanswerable questions atheists run from"
>
> yeah, that's the ticket.
>
> We Godless atheists are running away

That's all anyone expects from you gutless liars and traducers.

# Atheists Identified as America�s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are �America�s most distrusted minority.�
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in �sharing their vision of
# American society.�
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study�s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# �Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens�they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,� she said. �Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.�
#
# The study is co-authored by assistant professor
# Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.
# It�s the first in a series of national studies conducted
# the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project funded
# by the Minneapolis-based David Edelstein Family Foundation
# that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in
# the contemporary United States."

> form the sky fairy.

Is that where you all stand in a circle and fuck each other in the arse?

> Not my concern.

Of course not, you enjoy it! B^D

...I just wanted to demonstrate that atheist
hypocrites run from the questions they can't answer.

Thanks to you and Pink Fraud for proving my point!!! B^D

> You guys should tell the religious right

What guys are that, dimwit?

You atheists are always assuming that if anyone criticises atheism
they must be religious.

I have never met a bigger bunch of low-IQ dogmatists who
make unfounded assumptions about others and then beat up
your own straw man creations and demonstrate how clueless and
irrational you are!


>>> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>>>> Nomen Publicus also asks for proof that civilisation exists:
>>>>> In alt.agnosticism Morton Lucifer <"95
>>>>> Theses"@atheist-reformation.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Richo claims he doesn't know what Civilisation is:

>>>>> Please give examples so we know what you are describing and
>>>> > can then have a conversation.
>>>>
>>>> So atheists, not satisfied with not-believing in God,
>>>> are now extending their non-belief to not believing
>>>> in civilisation? B^D
>>>>
>>>> Hilarious! I point out that every atheist state has been
>>>> a totalitarian shithole, collectively killing over 70,o00,000
>>>> human beings and the only response of these moral maggots is
>>>> to DEFEND those atheist tyrannies by questioning 'what's Civilisation?'
>>>>
>>>> They want to shift the debate AWAY from the uncivilised atheist
>>>> tyrannies to some abstract academic blather about 'defining
>>>> civilisation'?
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAA
>>>>
>>>> Well lets throw one atheist attempt to change the subject
>>>> at another atheist attempt to avoid the issue:


>>>>
>>>>>>> Has the earth actually had one yet?
>>>>

>>>> The problem for atheist hypocrites and liars is that they
>>>> can't keep their bullshit stories straight. While this
>>>> faction is extending their usual limited repertoire,
>>>> asking for proof of God.. to asking for proof of Civilisation,
>>>> another muddle headed atheist fuckwit is listing half a dozen
>>>> civilisations she knows about!!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> Next they will quibble about 'great' and 'enduring' B^D
>>>>
>>>> they will do ANYTHING rather than face the simple, indisputable
>>>> reality that EVERY atheist state has been a tyranny and
>>>> the worlds great and enduring Civilisations have been religious;
>>>>
>>>> # From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
>>>> # alt.agnosticism
>>>> # Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST)
>>>> # Message-ID:
>>>> <bfcf3a9d-9711-449a...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
>>>> #
>>>> # Let's look at these great civilizations which
>>>> # worship gods, shall we?
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
>>>>
>>>> SUDDENLY THE ATHEISTS CAN FIND CIVILISATIONS!!!
>>>>
>>>> Oh Richo and Pubicus, you doubting thomases! B^D
>>>>
>>>> # The ancient Greeks ...
>>>> #
>>>> # The ancient Romans
>>>> #
>>>> # The ancient Aztecs
>>>> #
>>>> # The ancient Hebrews
>>>> #
>>>> # The Spanish
>>>> #
>>>> # The French
>>>> #
>>>> # The Germans
>>>> #
>>>> # The Russians
>>>> #
>>>> # The Muslim nations of the Middle East
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, she muddles modern nations and ancient empires with
>>>> civilisations, and leaves out entirely The British Empire
>>>> and it's American successor (goth majority religious),
>>>> the Zoroasterians (Persia and it's Empire), Hindus (India,
>>>> south east asia) etc.. but it's a good working start!
>>>>
>>>> And makes Pubis and Ritch look really foolish. B^]
>>>>
>>>> Now, the three GREATEST and most ENDURING Civilisations
>>>> described in that list are Judeo/Christian/Islamic...
>>>>
>>>> and they all worship THE SAME GOD! And represent the
>>>> majority of the planet's population! 8^o
>>>>
>>>> So straight-up we have a clear understanding of the pervasive,
>>>> dominant presence of monotheism in the most advanced nations
>>>> on the planet.
>>>>
>>>> And we should seriously compare those stunning successes,
>>>> lasting centuries or even millennia, with the short-lived,
>>>> massive failure of EVERY ATHEIST REGIME!!! B^D
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to discuss this at length with any atheist
>>>> willing to confront the truth.


>>>>
>>>>>> Only those among us who have evolved from knuckle dragging
>>>>>> rock-bangers to wearing iPods on their way to work at NASA
>>>>>> could understand how stupid that question is.. even for an atheist!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was Rome great? Did it endure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Er, sorry to break it to you, dumbo. but Rome STILL endures! B^]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Jeez .. what a nutjob! B^]
>>>>

>>>> Even Bukakke showed more sense than Richo.
>>>>
>>>> It was a civilisation. An early, and therefore primitive
>>>> one compared to ours, but only an atheist looking
>>>> for ancient of medieval comparisons to make the 20th
>>>> century atheist shitholes look almost acceptable
>>>> would ignore that we stand upon the achievements they
>>>> made.. that is one of the hallmarks of a civilisation.
>>>>
>>>> And Rome was certainly religious, as Bukakke notes,
>>>> and it's understanding of spiritual matters evolved
>>>> from pagan worship to Christianity, and instead of
>>>> murdering Christians for public entertainment it
>>>> created beautiful churches, art, sculpture, music
>>>> and in recent times gave us the Big Bang Theory
>>>> of the universe.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing from atheism is as great or enduring!


>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> It was great in some ways it endured for some time.
>>>> >>
>>>>>> So you agree it was great, and endured, but you don't
>>>>>> know if Rome was a civilisation!? pfffffft
>>>>

>>>> This pretend ignorance is a feeble debating tactic.
>>>>
>>>> Richo and Pubis have embarrassed themselves out of the debate..
>>>>
>>>> which I will take up with the atheist chumpion, Bukakke....


>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you wasting my time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was filled with spiritual beliefs - religions abounded
>>>> >>
>>>>>> And it lasted as a mighty empire for centuries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every atheist regime in history has been a catastrophic failure
>>>>>> which imploded within a few decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was Rome Great?
>>>> >>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it Endure?
>>>> >>
>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>> Unlike the Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression, Mao's
>>>> Great Leap Backward and Cultural Devolution and Pol Pot's
>>>> Cambodian genocide. And they all occurred IN THE 'MODERN' ERA..
>>>> while majority religious societies were developing free and
>>>> open, progressive democratic nations!
>>>>
>>>> History damns atheism.


>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't the Soviet union part and parcel of western civilisation
>>>> >>
>>>>>> No, that's why they were called the Eastern Bloc. B^p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rome Was the Western Church, Constantinople was the Eastern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you bothering us when you are so clearly ignorant
>>>>>> of even the basics of the history of Western Civilisation?
>>>>>>
>>>>

>>>> Even Bukakke has exposed the ridiculous ignorance of Richo
>>>> and Pubis.. poart of it deliberately confected to play
>>>> "define Civilisation for me" tactical games! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> They are dim and witless opponents.


>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> was Hitlers germany)? Where do we draw the lines marking the
>>>>>>> boundaries of civilisation?
>>>> >>
>>>>>> If you have to ask if Hitler's Nazi regime is civilised I suggest
>>>>>> yo fuck off and get a clue! pffft!
>>>>

>>>> When atheists try and blame religion for Nazism you have to ask
>>>> why all the nations opposing Nazism, including Europe, the UK,
>>>> Australia, New Zealand, Canada teh USA.. etc etc were MAJORITY
>>>> RELIGIOUS societies.
>>>>
>>>> The atheist state, under Lenin and later Stalin.. tried to be ALLIES
>>>> with the Nazi shitpigs and only fought them when the shitpigs betrayed
>>>> them!
>>>>
>>>> Typical short-term, immoral thinking by the Godless Atheists!


>>>>
>>>>>>>> There has never been a great and
>>>>>>>> enduring atheist civilisation,
>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> There has never been an atheist civilisation at all!
>>>> >>
>>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>>
>>>>

>>>> And that is really the end of the argument!
>>>>
>>>> Q.E.D.

--

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:24:02 PM12/20/09
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In article <p7pXm.63544$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


> # "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota

> # found that atheists are �America�s most distrusted minority.�

Because it is the minority which most strongly challenges the idiocies
of the still theist foolish majority.

if atheists and agnostics stopped challenging the evils and
foolishnesses of established religions, the establlished religions would
not spend so much of their time and effort fomenting hatred against that
minority of agnostics and atheists.

fasgnadh

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Dec 21, 2009, 4:51:20 AM12/21/09
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Budikka666 still running (day 234) :
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Budikka666 wrote:
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Budikka666 demonstrated that militant atheism is anti-theism:
>>>>
>>>>> "Morton Lucifer" who looks remarkably like a Flatnads sock puppet on

>>>>> Dec 18, 2:48 pm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheism makes many claims - "Atheism is a rational
>>>>>> position", "Atheism is free of the dogma of primitive
>>>>>> superstition"..
>>>>
>>>> and their most common lie, the only defence they have to
>>>> the accusation that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
>>>> tyranny.. the claim that 'pure' atheism is "no more than the belief
>>>> that there is no God"
>>>>
>>>>> You can keep your spiritual values. I'll piss on them and pass on
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So there we have it, (and not for the first time), the hate-filled
>>>> bigotry and violent (toilet fetishist) anti-theism of the militant
>>>> atheists.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Your LIES were refuted several months ago.

Now Bukakke seems to think that her desire to, (and I quote;) "Piss on"
spiritual values is somehow a 'refutation' of "Atheism makes many


claims - "Atheism is a rational position", "Atheism is free of
the dogma of primitive superstition..

and their most common lie, the only defence they have to
the accusation that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
tyranny.. the claim that 'pure' atheism is "no more than the belief
that there is no God"

>> You refuted my post from today 'several months ago'???
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!
>>
>> Not even your dimwitted atheist moron mates would swallow such
>> a load of shit from you! B^D

Her response doesn't even ADDRESS the issues she is replying to,
let alone refute them..(in fact she keeps SNIPPING this threads
issues continuously .. and RUNNING FROM THEM!!! ;-) and how can
those contemporary issues I raised today have been 'refuted'
in the past? ....it's absurd!!! B^D

She doesn't cite any additional material that would lead
people to think she is referring to OTHER issues than the ones in this
post, she doesn't REFUTE **ANYTHING** in THIS POST.. now she claims she
is talking about refutation of some other, unspecified post, on other
issues!!! It's atheist HALLUCINATION and LIES! B^D


>
> Try reading 101 Jerk wad.

No thanks, your posts are more drivel than I can be bothered with,
why would I want to read your Blog "101 Jerk Wad", jerk wad?

> Did I say I refuted "your post today"

Have you forgotten already what you just wrote!? B^D Senility?

Perhaps you should have a little lie down and stop taking so
many stupid pills.

It is the pills isn't it? Don't tell me you were born that stupid?

> incredibly stupid shitrag?

No, I don't want to read your notebook anymore than
I want to read your blog!

B^D

Do you have ANYTHING intelligible to say?

> Nope.

Then you really should quit while you are behind, soon I will
tire of you and remind you of the last time you cut and ran
from the argument.. with the same petty quibbling and abusive ad hom
you have tried this time. B^]

> What I said was (go ahead and read
> it, it's right there)

Only because I put it all back.. after you SNIPPED it all and
ran away!

Just like you gutless maggots ALWAYS DO! B^]

> I refuted your LIES.

You never even IDENTIFIED any lies in my post.. you just snipped it and
CLAIMED you had 'refuted it' BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA

There is NO EVIDENCE of any lies by me,
there is NO EVIDENCE of any refutation, by you

There is just evidence of you SNIPPING THE WHOLE POST
and raving like a MAD BITCH ... as usual

Now piss off until you regain some semblence of sanity.


> It's OK to get a grown-up to help

Sure.. pick one of the doctors they might be able to ajust your meds!

> asswipe

The nurses could hekp you with that, and put a new Poise Nappy on you.

> Got it now

Make sure it's on tight, you are so full of shit we
don't want any leaking out!

> dimwit?

No thanks, I already have Richo and Syd to play with! B^]

>>> End of story.
>>
>> Sure, all you atheists cut and run from "the, unanswerable
>> questions atheists flee from" .. just like you did last time!
>>
>> Thanks for your repeat performance, eveyone can see clearly
>> what a gutless lying sack of shit you are! B^]
>>
>>
>> All the proof of what hate-filled militant atheists support
>> replaced from where the Bukakke snipped it as she RAN AWAY:
>>
>> AGAIN!!! B^D
>>
>>>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>>>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
>>>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>>>> #
>>>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats and
>>>> # not in a girly way.
>>>> #
>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>> # BAAWA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
>>>>
>>>> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>>>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
>>>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>>>> #
>>>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>>>> # <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> #
>>>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>> #
>>>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>>>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>>>> #
>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>> # BAAWA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We see it repeated in AVERY atheist regime in history,
>>>> the terror, torture and mass murder that such hatred
>>>> of the spiritual values of Love, Compassion, Truth..
>>>> invariably brings;
>>>>
>>>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
>>>> #
>>>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
>>>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of
>>>> # religious freedom and practice."
>>>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
>>>> # Characteristics and Consequences,
>>>> # David Kowalewski,
>>>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
>>>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>>>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>>>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>>>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>>>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>>>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>>>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>>>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>>>> # instead of the family.
>>>> #
>>>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>>>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
>>>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
>>>> #
>>>> # The Cambodian Genocide:
>>>>
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

>>>>
>>>>
>>>> #
>>>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
>>>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites,
>>>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
>>>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
>>>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
>>>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
>>>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
>>>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
>>>> # were often killed.
>>>> #
>>>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
>>>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
>>>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed.
>>>> #
>>>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
>>>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
>>>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
>>>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
>>>> #
>>>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
>>>> # because of their religion."
>>>> #
>>>>
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg

>>>>
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>>>> # - Daniel Peris,
>>>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant
Godless"
>>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>>>> #
>>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>>>> Bukakke is a serial hit-and-run liar and abuser who is still
>>>> RUNNING away (day 233!) from my devastating rational
>>>> tour de force, critiquing this very issue of historical
>>>> atheist brutality and it's contemporary apologists:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # Budikka whined hypocritically:
>>>> # >
>>>> # > Unmet challenge #1
>>>> #
>>>> # From: fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au>
>>>> # Subject: How Bukakke was humbled and crawled away in defeat!
>>>> # Message-ID: <H7bPl.11167$y61....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>>>> # Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:05:27 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Such a long time ago, and yet Bukakke is still stung by her loss!
B^D
>>>>
>>>> # Bukakke started out full of arrogance and aggression
>>>>
>>>> Oh she still has that Shrill, Hysterical Banshee whining, but
>>>> it's now brittle and more likely to arouse laughter than fear,
>>>> after all, the whole of Usenet has seen her humbled; B^]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # # Subject: Formal Debate Challenge to "fasgnadh"
>>>> # # From: Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
>>>> # # Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:28 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> # # Message-ID:
>>>> # #
<be94a583-7dfb-414e-bff7-2e11a5c7c...@y71g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>
>>>> # #
>>>> # #
>>>> # # I've snipped the irrelevant politics groups, so now it's
>>>> # # just you andme in alt.atheism.
>>>> #
>>>> # I will put them back so EVERYONE can witness Bukakke BEATEN!
>>>> #
>>>> # Bukakke made the challenge, so I chose the weapons.. Atheist
History:
>>>> #
>>>>
>>>> It was like a battle of wits with an UNARMED opponent; B^D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # # From: fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au>
>>>> # #
>>>> # # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,aus.religion,
>>>> # #
>>>>
alt.politics.communism,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,
>>>> # # uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
>>>> # # Subject: Atheist infanticide
>>>> # # - "most horrific political crime of the 20th century"
>>>> # # Message-ID: <kvxKl.7613$y61.6...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>>>> # # Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 07:27:12 GMT
>>>> # #
>>>> # # "Russia exonerates Tsar Nicholas II
>>>> # #
>>>> # # The Russian supreme court has ruled that the country's
>>>> # # last tsar and his family must be recognised as victims
>>>> # # of Soviet repression 90 years after they were executed
>>>> # # by a Bolshevik firing squad.
>>>> # #
>>>> # #
>>>> # # By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
>>>> # #
>>>> #
>>>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3115053/Russia-exonerates-Tsar-Nicholas-II.html

>>>>
>>>> #
>>>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE of history.. because that reveals
>>>> a reality which is anathema to atheists! B^}
>>>>
>>>> All the great and enduring civilisations in history have been based on
>>>> spiritual teachings, and EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
>>>> nightmare.
>>>>
>>>> So here we have one of the atheists, who bang-on endlessly
>>>> about the injustice done to Galileao (who after all was NOT KILLED,
>>>> and remained a Christian ;-), trying to avoid a horrific
>>>> atheist crime, the torture and killing of CHILDREN,
>>>> and in Bukakke's case, SLANDERING the VICTIM, aged 12;
>>>>
>>>> No wonder they are the MOST distrusted and despised minority cult
>>>> in the USA..

Bukakke reveals WHY;

# # Tsar Nicholas II with his wife Tsarina Alexandra
# # (background), the Tsaravitch (2nd from right)
# # and his four daughters Photo: PA
# #
# # In an unexpected ruling, the court in Moscow declared
# # that Nicholas II and the royal family had been killed
# # illegally and are entitled to legal rehabilitation
# # by the state.
# #
# # The decision brings to a close a decade-long campaign
# # by the tsar's descendants to force the state to admit
# # culpability for what many Russians regard as the single
# # most horrific political crime of the 20th century."
# #
# #
# # The children saw their father shot and "were stabbed
# # with bayonets and then shot at close range in the head" by
# # the big Brave atheists.
# # Alexei was 13 and Anastasia 17
# # - Massie, R, The Romanovs The Final Chapter, 6
# #
# # "It also represents a symbolic end to Russia's often
# # tortured process of addressing the repressions of
# # the Soviet era."
# #
# # Nothing as tortured as the atheist holocaust deniers
# # trying to deny that the USSR was an atheist state! B^p
# #
# ...
# #
# # Most historians say there is enough evidence to
# # show that the executions were carried out on the
# # orders of Lenin,"
# #
# # Trotsky confirmed it...
# #
# # "who is still widely revered in Russia."
# #
# # and by atheists who worship secular mass murderers;
# #
# # http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
# #
# # http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
#
# And Bukakke showed atheists were still denying the terror,
# torture and murder carried out by atheist thugs;
#
First she tried, AS SHE IS TRYING AGAIN, to CHANGE THE SUBJECT! 8^o
what an IMMORAL MAGGOT;


# # From: Budikka <budik...@netscape.net>
# # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.politics.communism,
# # uk.politics.misc,aus.politics # # Subject: Hey fasgnadh:
# # Christian Infanticide: 276 Children Dead
# # Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 02:04:31 -0700 (PDT)
# # Message-ID:
# <06bebb0c-c385-4d5a-ad60-8348e8339...@f1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>

Then she SLANDERED Alexei, who was terrorized - forced to watch
his parents and siblings tortured and murdered, then he was tortured -
bayonetted, and finally he was killed..


# # # the Russian Royal family with a handful of
# # # children - who were Christians but behaved like despots
# # >
# # # Budikka
#

... a 12 year old victim of the Atheist regime which
would go on to terrorise, torture and
kill over 30,000,000 of it's OWN PEOPLE!!!!

There is nothing like it in history, and yet it happened in the
last 100 years.. the supposedly MODERN ERA!


# When I demanded evidence for Bukakke's claim that 12 year old
# Alexi was a 'despot' who deserved be terrorised, tortured and
# killed by the atheist Red Terror .. Bukakke ran from the field
# never to be heard from again.
#

And here she is, STILL RUNNING (Day 234) and EVADING the demand
that she SHOW EVIDENCE for her vile slander of alexei and APOLOGISE,
to his memory, the victims of atheist tyranny, to Usenet and to me.

Until she does, she remains a mangy Dog, not worth pissing on,
much less to be ever debated with again!

Who would BOTHER, once DEFEATED, as she would be, she would
simply RUN AWAY, like the gutless lying coward she is!


# I have her shield, (a hammer and sickle on a field of red blood,
# with a big Yellow stripe down it's back...;-) above my mantle piece
# as a trophy.

http://www.humanisthall.net/Trophy3.jpg

#
# When the blowhard issues another empty challenge... rub it's
# nose in this! B^]

> thanks for proving that

you are welcome!

Thanks for being a MAD RANTING BITCH..

> Who needs to make a case against you

but has no evidence whatsoever.. and snipss all the facts I present!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA

> LoL!

Time for you to sign off and fuck off:

> pathetic piece of Internet spamming shit.
>
> Budikka

Adding your name was redundant, we would recognise your
description anywhere!

fasgnadh

unread,
Dec 21, 2009, 5:29:55 AM12/21/09
to
bob young agreed with all of Bukakkes unproven slander and lies :
> "Budikka666" snipped and ran from the facts, and RANTED:
>> fasgnadh wrote well-evidenced challenges atheists FLEE FROM:

>>> Budikka666 demonstrated that militant atheism is anti-theism:
>>>
>>>> "Morton Lucifer" wrote:
>>>>> Atheism makes many claims - "Atheism is a rational
>>>>> position", "Atheism is free of the dogma of primitive
>>>>> superstition"..
>>>
>>> and their most common lie, the only defence they have to
>>> the accusation that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
>>> tyranny.. the claim that 'pure' atheism is "no more than the belief
>>> that there is no God"
>>>
>>>> You can keep your spiritual values. I'll piss on them and pass on
>>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>> So there we have it, (and not for the first time), the hate-filled
>>> bigotry and violent (toilet fetishist) anti-theism of the militant
>>> atheists.
>>>

>> Your LIES were refuted several months ago.

You haven't even IDENTIFIED any lies in this post, let alone
PROVEN them to be lies.

As most of my post is citation from peer reviewed historians
detailing the horrors of atheist states you would have a hard job
UNDERSTANDING the truth, let alone REFUTING IT!

In fact ALL you have done is SNIP IT ALL and BLATHER hysterically!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA

>> The fact that you're still
>> SPAMMING ten news groups

Atheists despise free speech, the issues I raise are relevant to
Politics(Atheist States commit the crimes,
Religion(the victims and targets of atheist persecution)
and militant atheism(the vile thugs who abuse me for criticising the
atheist tyrannies)

Atheists are afraid to have discussions in open forums, they hide
in sheltered workshops like alt.atheism where they can pack attack
any who dare to criticise the 70,000,000 killed by militant atheism.

Here we see two of them, posting nothing but abuse, ad hom, slander and
lies.. it infuriates them if I post EVIDENCE of the crimes of atheist
states to IMPARTIAL audiences where it can be contrasted with the
rabid, fact free OPINIONS of dogmatic and hate filled militant atheists:

>> with this juvenile horseshit when they're
>> nothing but your own manufactured jerk-off inanity

All those properly cited quotes, fully attributed, from
peer-reviewed historians, and all you can do is screech
your rabid abuse, SNIP IT ALL, RUN AWAY.. and then claim you
have refuted it!!!! B^D

Long ago, before I even posted it yesterday!!! B^D

You are madder than a cut snake, you lying bitch! B^}

What should we call someone who can't even IDENTIFY a single lie, let
alone refute it, who SNIPS ALL the FACTS and RUNS AWAY???

>> a useless piece of cowardly, vacuous hypocritical trash

Then that's what YOU ARE! suck it up, you rabid lunatic! B^]

>> End of story.

and the End of you and your ranting..

the facts REMAIN, untouched by any atheist! B^)

"The atheist dilemma, - the unanswerable questions atheists flee from"

B^}

>> Budikka


Atheists seem to believe that if TWO or more of them repeat the same
empty, unproven abuse it somehow has more credibility:


> Mr B I tend to agree with that. Fartnose is a disgrace to humanity.
> And as for standing up for his mythological religions he is a disgrace to
> them also revealing his mental weaknesses for all to see with foul
language
> and sickening insults.

I had to quote the foul mouthed atheists to demonstrate their
sickening insults.. naturally you snipped the evidence:

Agnostics were having a polite rational discourse with
some theists, talking about love, and diseased atheists
respond with their bestial psychosis;

# Subject: Re: Where's the Love in the Quran? EVERYWHERE,
# and in atheism- NOWHERE ..They DON'T GET IT!!!
# Read and see for yourself!


# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>

# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam,
# alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion
# Message-ID: <6tqhe51h59m7badtj...@4ax.com>
# Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:11:14 -0700
#
# >>> @ "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# >>> @ unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# >>> @ save with such of them as do wrong;
# >>> @ and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# >>> @ and revealed unto you;
# >>> @ our God and your God is One,
# >>> @ and unto Him we surrender."
# >>> @
# >>> @ - The Qur'an Sura 29 verse 46
# >>>
# >>> That was revolutionary, it took the parable of the Good Samaritan,
# >>> where the religious Other who acts with Love is held up as more
# >>> righteous in the eyes of God as those orthodox of one's own faith
who fail to show love or do good.
# >>>
# >>> Outstanding! That is the Message of the Age.
# >>
# >> Maybe - but it is about surrender, not love.
# >
# > Exactly as my beloved does.. bending herself toward me..
# > and offering herself totally... as I also do to her beauty and
# > charms....
#
# Then you grab her tail and make her say 'Baaaaaaa'.


#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

In a discussion of MUTUAL LOVE and willing surrender,
the atheist thug reveals his misogyny and bestial force.

It's a common occurrence among the atheist perverts;

People talking about Cosmology were shocked to find Steve
touting his pornographic bent:

#From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory
# Message-ID: <j9p7e550bbdcc9oij...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:46:34 -0700
#
# "Firnando" wrote:
#
# >The Big Bang Theory
#
# You wanna see the big bang?
#
# NSFW!
#
# http://www.ovguide.com/adult.html


#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA


If you Google the word "Mother" for Steve Knight, this is what you find,
Steve has to say about her;


# took his rubber cock out of his mouth, shoved it
# up his mother's ass and ...
#
# - From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>


# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
# alt.agnosticism

# Subject: Re: Better place to debate theists?
# Message-ID: <8pj4e5pk7oi5ohvjp...@4ax.com>
# Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:06:52 -0700


His sick fantasies include violent murder and desecration
of the bodies of his enemies, men, women and children:

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats

#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

>
> Which is, of course, a sure indication of mental weakness
>

Sure, he's a dangerous atheist psychopath, but that Atheist LEADER,
(who they all pay homage to, even sick females
like Trance Stupor who share his perversions), uses imagery full
of the violent misogyny he expresses in his foul posts:

# From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: a.a.(atheist.angst.)
# OT(Ordinary and Tiresome) - not-a-Joke
# Message-ID: <i2cld5hbru4nugsib...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:37:21 -0700
#
# Your Dad wanted to watch me fuck your Mom in the
# ass and offered me a kilo of crack to do it.
# I told him she was so fucking fat and oily and smelled
# like two day old urine that I'd need at least five kilos
# and a gallon of Jack.
#
# The only thing keeping me interested is putting a bag
# over your sister's head and fucking her mouth.
# I love that cooing sound when she swallows my sperm.


#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA


As he admits, (rather unecessarily ;-) atheists have serious mental
issues and they come to Usenet to share their personal problems:


# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#

# We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists


Jung was right:


"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."

-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul


> These days I never waste my time on his trash
>
> Maybe one of his many other nick names best applies:-
>
> 'failednuts'


Another witless, slandering infant who believes he can 'refute'
facts by SNIPPING THEM, RUNNING AWAY, and engaging in nothing
but playground ad hom! pffffft!

fasgnadh

unread,
Dec 21, 2009, 5:36:56 AM12/21/09
to
Virgil the atheist fraud and liar FORGED :

<start of Virgils feeble fuckwitted forgery>

# > The theists lack the decency to admit their failure,
# >> they just pile lie upon lie hoping that the readers
# >> will not notice they have ABANDONED THE FIELD, yet again!
# >>
# >> "The Unanswerable questions theists Flee From!!!"
# >
# > How can some theists be fools enough to disagree with other theists on
# > which god(s) exist and still call a-theism (non-theism) foolish?

<end of Virgils feeble fuckwitted forgery>

The Unanswerable Truth ALL atheists flee from:

> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Syd Slander snips the facts, lies about them, and runs away:
>>> On Dec 20, 7:37 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Zapp Brannigan tried an old atheist chesnut:
>>>>> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>>>>>> Hope for the Heartless accepts Osama's lies without question:
>>>>>>> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Morton Lucifer <"95 Theses"@atheist-reformation.org> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:JURWm.63118$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:


>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Atheism makes many claims - "Atheism is a rational
>>>>>>>>>> position",

If that were true Syd Slander and Virgil would not have to lie,
abuse and forge posts! B^]

>>>>>>>>>> "Atheism is free of the dogma of primitive

>>>>>>>>>> superstition".. but if this is so, why are the great
>>>>>>>>>> and enduring civilisations in human history based on
>>>>>>>>>> spiritual values? There has never been a great and
>>>>>>>>>> enduring atheist civilisation, and every atheist state
>>>>>>>>>> has been a totalitarian tyranny - the Union of Savage
>>>>>>>>>> Slaughter and Repression (USSR), Mao's Great Leap
>>>>>>>>>> Backwards and Cultural Devolution, Pol Pots Cambodian
>>>>>>>>>> Genocide.
>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>>>>>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>>>>>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Know the truth and its roots. The book of God is our guide"
>>>>>>>>> Osama Bin Ladin, 2002
>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can now show you, citing the Qur'an, precisely how Osama
>>>>>>>> Bin Lidden is IN BREACH OF THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM.
>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and when I have done so, all you have to do is show any tenets
>>>>>>>> of atheism you claim Lenin (or Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot..) was
>>>>>>>> in breach of atheism when they terrorised tortured and killed over
>>>>>>>> 70,000,000 men, women and children!
>>
>>
>> No atheist has been able to do so.
>>
>> Another atheist SHIBBOLETH lies shattered! B^]
>>
>>>>>>>> If you cannot do so, then you must admit that killing in
>>>>>>>> the name of religion is a crime of the person, not the religion,
>>>>>>>> when the religion explicitly forbids it.
>>
>> The atheists lack the decency to admit their failure,
>> they just pile lie upon lie hoping that the readers
>> will not notice they have ABANDONED THE FIELD, yet again!
>>
>> "The Unanswerable questions Atheists Flee From!!!"
>>
>> I give all and sundry permission to use all my written material
>> in Usenet to shame and humiliate the atheists in ANY forum.
>> free from copyright/
>>
>> Atheism cannot defend itself against it's historical horrors.
>>
>> As you can all see, agnostics, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Bahai,
>> Sikhs, Buddhists.. all of you can use my rational critique of atheism
>> to silence their thugs and liars.. because it does not operate in their
>> CHOSEN theatre, theological speculation, where no proof exists.. but
>> in REALITY, where the evidence of atheisms failure is everywhere!!! B^]
>>
>>>>>> This atheist doesn't seem to be able to read plain English,
>>>>>> let alone understand the clear logic of the challenge:
>> >>>>
>>>>>>> Osama explicitly told people that it was because of God that
>>>>>>> Americans had to be killed.
>> >>>>
>>>>>> We are not interested in the ravings of a lunatic,
>>>>>> only a handful of terrorists and you atheists believe
>>>>>> what he says without question!!!! 8^o
>> >>>>
>>>>>> We are not testing what any individual nutjob may think or
>>>>>> do, but testing if their CLAIM to be acting in the name
>>>>>> of a set of beliefs is CONSISTENT with that set of beliefs.
>>>>>> They aren't. But you still seem to think that in some twisted way,
>>>>>> the set of beliefs are still somehow invalidated!? B^p
>> >>>>
>>>>>> That's either idiotic, or deceitful and malign Islamophobic hatred.
>> >>>>
>>>>>> Clearly you understand that Osama is acting CONTRARY to the Qur'an
>>>>>> but there is nothing in atheism that Lenin, Stalin or Pol Pot
>>>>>> were violating when they tortured, terrorised and killed over
>>>>>> 70,000,000 human beings.
>> >>>
>>>>> Stalin was a Catholic.
>> >>
>>>> Don't you atheist apologists for atheist regimes EVER get tired
>>>> of the same old LIES?
>>>
>>> Don't you get tired of
>> refuting
>> > the same old hysterical
>> anti-theist
>>> bullshit that has been debunked for the millionth time?
>>
>>
>> No, it is so easy to debunk these bog-standard atheist lies,
>> by replacing the FACTS you snipped, which disprove the atheist
>> bullshit, that I could do it in my sleep:
>>
>> <unsnip all the FACTS the atheists run from: >
>>
>>>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>>>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
>>>> - Stalin
>>>> E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>>>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>>
>>
>> Do the atheists think that anyone, apart from brain-dead atheists,
>> will believe that Stalin would allow this to be printed in the
>> official State Publisher if he did not want people to know about
>> his ATHEISM????
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
>>
>> You liars are FUCKED!!!
>>
>> Once again you do not have a leg to stand on!
>>
>>
>> Lie away.. you condemn yourselves with your OWN MOUTHS! B^]
>>
>>>> And you seem to have forgotten Lenin, also an atheist,
>>>> leading an ATHEIST government (EVERY MEMBER OF THE
>>>> CENTRAL COMMITTEE WAS AN ATHEIST!!!!) implementing
>>>> avowedly atheist policies:


>>>>
>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>

>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>

>>>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>>>> but of the entire State apparatus;
>>>>
>>>> The atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>>>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>>>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>>>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[


>>>>
>>>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."

>>>> - Daniel Peris,


>>>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"

>>>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>

>>>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>>>
>>>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>>>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>>>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>>>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>>>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>>>> - John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>>>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All we get from these atheist apologists for atheist terror
>>>> torture and MASS MURDER of over SEVENTY MILLION SOULS is
>>>> the same old atheist shit, from a different arsehole!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > And they believed him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'They' who? ..you lying atheist moral defective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have already been presented with evidence showing
>>>>>> Osama is CONDEMNED by the Qur'an and that is not just my opinion
>>>>>> but is clearly stated by every significant Islamic body on
>>>>>> the planet, and by non-Muslim world leaders (Obama et al)
>>>>>> who are capable of distinguishing between
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who cares if Osama wasn't orthodox?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1,500,000,000 Muslims care that he is in DIRECT violation of Islam..
>>>>>> and so does every sane, intelligent non-Muslim observer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.daar-ul-ehsaan.org/terrorism.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, who cares what you hate-filled atheists and a
>>>>>> handful
>>>>>> of hate filled terrorists BELIEVE ..JUST BECAUSE OSAMA SAYS SO!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pffffft! B^p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are telling us that the teachings of Islam don't count with you,
>>>>>> the explicit condemnation of the worlds Muslims don't count, ONLY
>>>>>> the words of your beloved Osama, the psychotic terrorist, matter to
>>>>>> you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are as FUCKED UP as his other followers!!!! B^[
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Osama's beef is with the Saudi's he grew up amongst for allowing
>>>>>> US weapons on his 'sacred homeland' He's a POLITICAL thug who
>>>>>> dresses up as a Muslim to give himself some credibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al Qaida have killed more MUSLIMS than they have killed non-Muslims!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the Pope says "I'm an atheist and I'm going to fuck 'Hope
>>>>>> for the Clueless' in the arse in the NAME OF ATHEISM" are you
>>>>>> seriously suggesting anyone (apart from fuckwits like you) would
>>>>>> take him seriously and BLAME ATHEISM? B^D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a JOKE! B^]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He made up his own version of his religion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, you actually ADMIT it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
>>>>>> TEACHINGS OF ISLAM!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Not interested in an Osama lover telling us why he believes
>>>>>> whatever his terrorist leader says, even when all the FACTS
>>>>>> show he is NOT acting in accordance with Islam - snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But, in contrast, Lenin was a far more influential atheist
>>>>>>>> than you, operated in the real world, knew what he was
>>>>>>>> talking about, and did nothing that is forbidden in atheism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Whosoever kills even one human being, other than for man
>>>>>>>> slaughter or tyranny on earth, it would be as if they had
>>>>>>>> killed all of humanity. And whosoever saves even one human life,
>>>>>>>> it will be as if they have saved all of humankind (Koran 5:32)"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Oh you who believe, stand up firmly for justice, as witnesses to
>>>>>>>> God, even if it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your
>>>>>>>> kin, and whether it be against rich or poor; for God can best
>>>>>>>> protect both. Do not follow any passion, lest you not be just.
>>>>>>>> And if you distort or decline to do justice, verily God is
>>>>>>>> well-acquainted with all that you do'." (Quran 4:135)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "We made you to be a community of the middle way, so that (with
>>>>>>>> the example of your lives) you might bear witness to the truth
>>>>>>>> before all mankind." (Qur�an, 2:143)


>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "And argue not with the People of the Scripture

>>>>>>>> unless it be in ( a way) that is better,

>>>>>>>> save with such of them as do wrong;

>>>>>>>> and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us

>>>>>>>> and revealed unto you;


>>>>>>>> our God and your God is One,

>>>>>>>> and unto Him we surrender."
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> - The Qu'ran Sura 29 verse 46
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> [2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight
>>>>>>>> with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does
>>>>>>>> not love those who exceed the limits.
>>>>>>>> [18.74] So they went on until, when they met a boy, he
>>>>>>>> slew him. (Musa) said: Have you slain an innocent person
>>>>>>>> otherwise than for manslaughter?
>>>>>>>> Certainly you have done an evil thing.
>>>>>>>> Qur'an 2.190, 18.74
>>>>>>>> (Shakir Translation)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Let there arise from among you a band of people who invite to
>>>>>>>> righteousness, and enjoin good and forbid evil.� (Qur�an, 3:104)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The fact is that many prominent American Muslim
>>>>>>>> groups have clearly and publicly denounced acts
>>>>>>>> of terror in the name of Islam as barbaric,
>>>>>>>> heinous and just plain wrong. Though they religiously
>>>>>>>> send out press releases and e-mail statements after
>>>>>>>> every attack, somehow their message doesn't seem
>>>>>>>> to penetrate."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is not that condemnations do not exist;
>>>>>>>> it is that they are not well publicized in the media.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.religioustolerance.org/islfatwa.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So Osama is not a true Muslim, and is condemned by the
>>>>>>>> vast majority of the Islamic world, AND EXPLICITLY
>>>>>>>> BY THE QUR'AN ...but there is NOTHING in atheism
>>>>>>>> which similarly condemns, or even forbids the crimes
>>>>>>>> of the atheist regimes, against humanity!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 8^o
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Islam condemns terrorist attacks, but atheists
>>>>>>>> defend the atheist holocausts:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

Masked Avenger

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:41:14 AM12/21/09
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Dear Fasgnadh

Shut the fuck up drongo ...... you sound like a fucking flock of Galahs
..... shrieking constantly like a fucking cracked record ..... same old
shit every fucking time and no one ever agrees with your bullshit .....
" atheists are evil " ......" atheists kill people " .... give it a
break for fucks sake you moron .... you are living in a country that is
all but atheist in nearly every respect ...... sure there are still
trappings of religion, but how many empty Churches do you see on Sundays
? every where I look it's only old people who still attend..... and
their numbers are dwindling ........ I know they're a bit backward in
Victoria but gees you really bring their IQ down ..... you keep getting
your arse kicked all over usenet ...... and yet I can guarantee you'll
come back and post reams of the same old bullshit that no one ever reads
..... working on the theory that if you post enough shit .... some of it
might stick ....

--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....

Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein

Does Schr�dinger's cat have 18 half lives ?

fasgnadh

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:15:38 PM12/21/09
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Dear Drongo

No.

Now what, you useless, irrational, irrelevant, atheist tool? B^]

> fucking flock of Galahs

at least you mate with creatures of your own IQ level.

> " atheists are evil "

Do you have evidence for your opinion?

Sure, the atheist regimes were ALL totalitarian tyrannies,
but that does not make every atheist intrinsically evil,
evidence in alt.atheism notwithstanding! B^D

Phillip Adams and Brian Eno are two decent atheists.. mind
you, they both distance themselves from Dawkins and the Militant
atheist extremists, like you.

> ......" atheists kill people "

70,000,000 in the 20th century alone.

More than the Nazis

> .... give it a break

Where would you like it.. arm, leg, neck?

Why would anyone, except a filthy atheist thug like you,
defend such moral maggots?

Why would you shitpigs think Nazi or atheist holocaust deniers
would receive anything but unrelenting ridicule condemnation
and contempt???

Suck it up.. you can't shoot your critics anymore.. all
the atheist regimes were massive cluster fucks and folded
faster than the deckchairs on the Titanic! Heh Heh Heh! B^]

> you are living in a country that is
> all but atheist in nearly every respect

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

It always amazes me that atheists can talk through their arse
with their heads stuck up it;

http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg

# Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
# -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
# fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
#
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups:
# alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
# alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
# Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#
#
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
#
#
# 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST, YOU DISHONEST CRETINS!
#
#
# EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D


Atheisats 4% of non-believers 96% of non-believers reject atheism

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/documents/aris030609.pdf


> how many empty Churches do you see on Sundays

None, you stupid, brain-dead, knuckle-dragging atheist fuckwit...

I'm an agnostic.

It always amuses people to watch you ranting lunatics froth at the mouth
and reveal your DEEP-SEATED ANTI-THEIST HATRED AND BIGOTRY, whenever
atheism is rightly criticised!


Boy, do you look STUPID right now...

and as usual, you couldn't refute a SINGLE FACT in my post!

That's why everyone is going to keep asking these questions of you
atheists, FOREVER.. because YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!! B^)

Thanks for playing, and demonstrating, again, that neither
Bukakke or any other atheist can answer;

"The Unanswerable Questions Atheists Flee From"


Can we have NEXT ATHEIST LIGHTWEIGHT, for evisceration, please! B^]

Virgil

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:12:21 AM12/22/09
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In article <KJXXm.63895$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Nothing new, so I snipped it.

It always amazes me that theists like fasgnadh can talk through their
arse with their heads stuck up it.

But apparently trying to believing in the existence of some gods while
simultaneously believing in the non-existence of others bends theist
bodies in odd ways while it is bending their minds out of whack.

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