On 27/05/2012 1:01 PM, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-27, Yap<
hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Associates of the previous moderators were kind enough to forward the
>>>>>> moderation over, to allow "alt.atheism.moderated" to live again.
>
> (piggy-backing, the original author is kill-filed)
As I said, atheists are Lying hypocrites.
This one claims he doesn't block debate, just trolling,
yet here he is, taking my post seriously enough to debate me,
(not very well, with lies he will never try to justify because
he will not read my challenge for him to do so, because he's really
Just a Troll.
Troll: posts without any genuine intent to engage in dialogue.
That is precisely what Mike Lovell is doing and that is precisely
why he has changed the rules to permit Cross-Posting from a
moderated NG to unmoderated ones.. so the Atheist Trolls can
SPAM USENET and filter out any and ALL replies! 8^o
What atheists call 'debate' is where they have their say,
and anything said in response to them is ignored.
Thus, once again the model is that of the propaganda and
censorship instruments of EVERY atheist regime in history,
they want ONE WAY MONOLOGUE and to silence YOUR reply.
And that is why they are retreating from Free open Dialogue into a
Kollective Killfile where their Intellectual Kommisars will
determine what they get to read!
Sad really.. that is what has got them in this position
of decline due to their IRRELEVANCE.. no one listens
to those who shout but don't listen... the atheists.
They really should just MOVE TO Nth KOREA and do the job properly,
because they really are un-American, anti-democratic and closed-
minded cultists in their determination to speak but not listen.
>>>>> An excellent idea, which has my FULL SUPPORT!
>>>
>>>>> Precisely what I have always advised atheists to do:
>>>>> create a hermetically sealed sheltered workshop where the
>>>>> shared delusions and mutual tool fondling of weak minded atheists
>>>>> can take place without the danger of their feeble intellects and
>>>>> illogical prejudices being challenged by anyone! B^D
>
> Well that proposal will have to wait until later, in the meantime we'll
> work on a.a.m - Which certainly won't block out any debate.
>
> Just trolling.
Now, get this.. it reveal the lies and hypocrisy of the militant
atheist enemies of Free Speech..
THEY claim the right to determine WHO will be heard.
That's it.
That's all it takes to establish tyranny.
You can say we allow truth but silence lies, and then declare
anything you don't want to be heard as lies.
In the atheist regime they attacked 'counter-revolutionaries'
censored them, then imprisoned, tortured and killed them in the millions.
Who were the 'counter revolutionaries'?
Well, ANYONE *THEY* said were counter revolutionaries! 8^o
There is never any TRIAL in these matters.. you are defined by them,
and then silenced, imprisoned, tortured executed.
The atheist regimes terrorised tortured and Killed OVER 80,000,000
OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
Think on it.
Now some really were 'counter-revolutionaries' White Russian
forces, but in the end, MOST were just farmers, Kulacs, shop
owners who were declared by some zealous little Kommisar with
a prejudice, or a grudge, or after a bribe....
and eventually the WHOLE STINKING ATHEIST SHITHEAP collapsed from
it's corruption, nepotism, incompetence and mass despair..
Because a handful of self appointed non-entities had the power
to decide if you had a right to speak...
And so here we are in 2012...
" We allow debate but not trolling" .. and again, THEY decide
who is a troll/ counter revolutionary/ Jew... 8^o
Now lets TEST their Fairness, their Impartiality, their Honesty
their Integrity, their Judgement...
Mike is here debating my well reasoned, articulate but CONTROVERSIAL
challenge to their ideology of arbitrary suppression of Free Speech
by atheists and states that DEBATE will be allowed and trolling not.
So he debates my debate, and, in any decent free open secular democratic
state, (all of them built by theist populations) I would make this
reasoned reply and he would have to justify the lies and
misrepresentations about me he has made or apologise, or be known
as a slandering coward with no integrity whatsoever.. a TROLL in fact..
one who posts but has NO INTENTION of rational DEBATE.
So we are in debate.
But he is not going to lift his killfile, so his intention here,
as in his moderated NG, is NOT to debate me.. he wants to be a troll.
To SPEAK without ANY INTENTION of LISTENING.
And how can he justify such deliberate HYPOCRISY?
Easy.. he will use the same tactic that every tyrant and all
those who carried out the atheist tyranny down to the lowest
levels of society...
He will declare me, at some point when he wants to STOP TALKING
but also REFUSE to LISTEN.. declare the post he is currently
acknowledging as **DEBATABLE** by debating it.. to be "Troll"
And that's how they operate! 8^o
Lets find the point, where, on a whim, any petty Martinet
can simply decide to flip from DEBATING me, to deciding
he can't win and suddenly claiming I'm a COUNTER REVOLUTIONARY!
B^]
>>>>> I'm concerned that you describe it already as 'non-functional',
>>>>> shouldn't you wait till some posts arrive before writing it off? B^D
>
> It's technical,
Not really, non functional is pretty simple.. it's not working.
> I won't waste both our time trying to explain it to you.
It took no time at all, but you have another agenda. B^]
>>>>> As it died from lack of interest before, I'm sure
>>>>> it will die from lack of interest again. ;-)
>>>
>>>>> And frankly, no one will will miss you while you are gone.
>
> The moderate literally died, that ended the group.
Have they come alive again? Hallelujah! B^D
Clearly they are not resurrected, you have done what could have
been done YEARS ago, but wasn't, due to LACK OF INTEREST!
>>>>> As every atheist regime in history shows, atheism regards
>>>>> freedom of speech and thought as anathema. The atheist regimes
>>>>> always preferred censorship and the suppression of freedom
>>>>> and of thought.
>
> What censorship?
When you debate someone until it's clear you have no rational response,
and won't even substantiate claims you have made which slander them,
even if they demand that you provide evidence in support of your lies
about them or apologise... and then suddenly prevent their views
from being heard in a forum, say by declaring them a troll and
filtering their posts in an attempt to suppress their critique of
either your ideology or your lies and slander..
Now in the free open democratic forums, you just yell Troll and
walk away.. that's not censorship.. but when the Gatekeepers
of a moderated NG use it as the basis of partisan screening
of posts.. well, Comrade.. that's just like EVERY atheist
tyranny the world has ever seen discriminating against anyone
they choose to label as Counter-revolutionary.
Your self serving ideology was rife during the French Revolution
as well.. the same denunciation, no real trial, and application
of sanctions.. tyranny never changes it's true face,
just it's uniform. B^p
> Freedom of speech and expression has limits.
Yes, in any free open secular democracy, (all created by
majority religious societies) the limits are
- DEFINED BY LAW, with testable precision
- tested in IMPARTIAL COURTS
- SUBJECT to APPEAL in higher courts and
- OPEN to review by all of the democratic constituents.
In the case of atheism, either ANY of it's foul oppressive
totalitarian tyrannies, or it's partisan and biased NG's
NONE OF THESE DEMOCRATIC SAFEGUARDS EXIST.
Capice? Comrade Kommisar? B^]
> As you might well find if
> you get your penis out in a play park.
You have a paedophiles view of what Freedom of Speech and expression
means.. can you really be that IGNORANT of the critical differences
between the democratic and legal balance of rights in our society, and
your atheist Kangaroo Court and star Chambers?
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What court would have a self appointed panel of Catholic
priests sit in judgement on whether an Atheist can post to USENET?
or vice versa.. !
Yet that is how EVERY atheist regime operated, and you are just
following their traditon of PARTISAN PREJUDICE as we can demonstrate:
> What we have here, is rather akin to a group of atheists walking into
> your Church,
I don't have a church, you lying atheist martinet.
Once again, the judgement of atheist TROLLS, who have NO INTENTION
of engaging in GENUINE DEBATE, is to misrepresent their opponent,
or forge their posts as Raven and Virgil do, and then you ARGUE
against the STRAWMAN which YOU HAVE FABRICATED..
That, buster, is the true mark of a TROLL!
And yet, after 'debating' me in this appalling way, you
rank hypocrite, you will simply declare me 'a troll'
and in your mind, Comrade Stalin, that Justifies your Killfile,
or your Moderator REJECTION, or your ice pick, or your gulag..
WE HAVE SEEN YOU OPERATING BEFORE... B^p
> and shouting very loudly (drowning out everyone else).
>
> "FUCK, FUCK, FUCK ..."
Well I see you shouting loudly but you CANT drown anyone out!
I don't have to read you.. it's FREE, OPEN USENET, stupid!
> Over and over again until everybody leaves.
WTF? USENET has been full of trolls for years..
I know who they are, I don't have to open their posts,
I don't have to read all of them if I do open them,
After sampling them I don't have to bother with them at all..
Methinks you doth protest TOO MUCH and with CHRONIC
self-contradiction indicating your are disingenuous .
You have told raven that you don't see trolls, you have them
killfiled.. so any atheist has that option, why the moderated
NG which achieves the SAME result, (you only see what your
prejudices want you to see) .. the only difference is the POWER
to decide resides with the MODERATER who feeds the Sheeple! ;-)
Anyway, here's your big moment.
You have acknowledged my contribution to the debate by DEBATING ME,
but having had YOUR SAY, including deliberate lies and slanders about me
you don't want to face the possibility of being asked to SUBSTANTUATE
your lies and slanders, so you will RUN AWAY .. just like any TROLL!
But like the moderators, you need a pretext.. you have to find
a reason for running away from your slanders, OR simply call me a
'counter-revolutionary'/Troll/ Jew because as any tyranny demonstrates
that obviates the need for evidence, or a trial:
> You're not debating, you're just trolling and creating noise.
Sure, Mike, right down to wher3e you decided YOU had said all YOU
have to say, we were 'debating' now, with nothing identified
in this post that you have found objectionable, certainly nothing
remotely TROLL-LIKE, you just feel 'tired' of the 'noise'
(when it's only you talking B^0 and feel the need to arbitrarily
play your troll card.
That folks, is ALL the Commissar of Censorship has to do to TERMINATE
the discussion and SILENCE YOU!
A simple claim "You are a troll" - Atheist denunciation, 2012
Soviet denunciation: "You are a counter -revolutionary"
Maoist denunciation: "Capitalist Running Dog"
The atheists stick to what they know! B^]
You have finally achieved some 'transparency' Mike.
You are a transparent atheist fraud, and a gutless lying slanderer
who shits on peoples reputation and character with NO EVIDENCE
whatsoever, and then runs away.
Let me demolish the spurious claptrap you have scattered like a
smokescreen to cover your ungracious exit....
> Intentionally here to try and disrupt a minority group of their freedom
> to congregate amongst themselves.
1. Your claim to read minds and motive has as much evidence as
a theists belief in God.. and is not falsifiable.. you rank hypocrite
2. There is no way a poster in USENET can disrupt the freedom of others
to post or congregate, unless they set up a moderated NG and
arbitrarily exclude those they claim, with no evidence required,
are trolls.
Nice one, you flaming atheist HYPOCRITE! B^]
> Theists cannot stand minorities, it scares them, it jars at them.
> You're all here because it worries you very deeply.
I'm an agnostic, a very tolerant open minded one.
But you Trolls simply LABEL people as Jews and then shove them in the
ovens, right?
Change the tyranny and it could be "Counter revolutionary" or "troll"
but the process and the outcome is the same.. and so are the tyrants.
What could be fairer, eh Mike? B^p
> You're right to be scared,
I'm not scared, certainly not scared to debate it. B^]
You are!
..but you're just an atheist TROLL, you splatter shit,
lies and slander, unfounded claims.. then RUN AND HIDE! B^D
People notice, they notice your lies, a few posts back you
admitted atheists in USENET are in decline,
(as they are GLOBALLY, see below B^) now you claim otherwise:
> atheism is growing and theism is dying.
You Trolls NEVER have any evidence, and you never come back
when challenged to produce any! B^]
This is what evidence looks like, people who DEBATE
use evidence, you atheist trolls just LIE! B^]
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
> The swing is alarming
For atheists, sure, you are in terminal decline globally
since the catastrophic failure of the atheist tyrannies,
which killed over 80,000,000 people.
That was your last opportunity to control and curtail
peoples freedoms (like you are attempting to revive now ;-)
and it ended in disaster for you...
Keep up the good work! B^]
In China alone, since the collapse of the Maoist madness
(they reformed their Constitution in 1982, ending militant atheist
oppression and allowing greater freedom of thought and belief)
Since then, in just a few years, China has over 300,000,000
new believers, the Communist party praises the positive social benefits
of religion, even hosted an International Buddhist conference, and
as you expect with greater FREEDOM, china is prospering and has
transformed into an economic POWERHOUSE.. Meanwhile religion, and
prosperity are in decline in Europe and the USA. Go Figure! B^]
Things look good Globally!
> (for theists!).
Yup, but for atheists as you desperate denizens rushing to
build a bunker to hide in demonstrate...
> It's panic mode.
You should panic.. you have no credibility with anyone except
the low IQ sheep who are so clueless they will surrender their autonomy
to a MODERATOR of **THEIR** FREE SPEECH! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
Atheists in the Wayback machine! Follow the ORTHODOX DOGMA,
or be branded a Counter-revolutionary, capitalist running dog TROLL;
Atheists demonstrating their freedom and independence of mind,
as permitted by the Maoderator; !!!! B^D
http://djcadchina.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/red-guards.jpg
> You think you're helping
I have testimonials from a variety of people, theists,
agnostics, atheists, who understand a principled stand.
You wouldn't.
What is your goal
> by trolling here,
yeah, and by herding the dwindling flock (with a dramatic
plunge in the average IQ, (and similarly dramatic rise in
average age! 8^o) into a sheltered workshop where they will
become more insular and inward looking?
Mind you, you have my full support, I just find it incredible
that you, and they, think it will bring greater success!
> it's having the opposite effect.
Of course.. when you sounded RETREAT from the field of
freely contested ideas, they all got a shock, they can no longer
pretend things are improving for atheism.. they have watched the
decline, now they can smell the panic/
B^]
BTW, your constant references to the fate of the Church,
traditional religious hierarchies etc are of no concern to me.. B^]
I'm not part of any of that. I really am an AGNOSTIC! B^]
It';s just that my deep understanding of religions and of history
leads me to present a far more complex Weltanschauung than
simplistic atheists can deal with.
I believe the traditional religions are experiencing transformation as
profound as every other aspect of society and to expect people
to keep attending churches as they have for 2000 years is absurd.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA
It's 80% religious, like all free open secular democracies
it was built and sustained by a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society,
it doesn't destroy temples, churches mosques and synagogues,
or kill believers, as the atheist regime in the USSR did,
nor does it indoctrinate children in atheism as the USSR did,
nor does it persecute people for their beliefs OR THEIR lack of them..
It prints in God we Trust on it's money and it's president is
sworn in on Bible and yet is defends the rights of atheists
and other tiny minorities, something neither the atheist
regimes nor your proposed NG does.
No atheist regime in history has EVER
> Founded a secular nation.
Think about that!
Every free, open, progressive prosperous, technologically advanced
secular democratic state has been built and sustained by a MAJORITY
RELIGIOUS society.
More telling; EVERY ATHEIST REGIME HAS BEEN A TOTALITARIAN TYRANNY! 8^o
> This is how secularists handle freedom of speech.
But most secularists, as we see, are RELIGIOUS, (80%)
the number who are atheist is tiny! B^D
'Secular' does not mean atheist, you seem to confuse and conflate the
two, you poor dimwit! B^D
>>>>> It will be a perfect environment for the anti-intellectuals who are the
>>>>> last remaining atheists in alt.atheism and talk.atheism, now almost
>>>>> defunct because, as we all know, atheists really can't defend their
>>>>> illogical nonsense unless they can silence their critics.
>
> I've yet to see any critique of atheism that holds water.
That's because you killfile anyone who thinks different you you,
after you have branded them a troll, even when you clearly know little
or nothing about them and haven't even read their posts!
Evidence: the lies and misrepresentations you have made about me.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAAA
> What you see is theists red in the face screaming that they're right
Do I?
Now you arrogant fools want to tell me what *I* see?
YOU are the blinkered fool, and you have no idea who I read
or what I make of it.
Why is it that atheists CONTINUALLY post their UNFOUNDED BELIEFS
without a shred of evidence and when some is demanded from them,
they slip away ....
> and
> scratching their heads in confusion that for some reason, other people
> don't share their delusions.
WTF has your rambling disjointed opinions got to do with anything we are
debating?
>>>>> Like all closed systems, the Church, Imams in Iran, the atheist Central
>>>>> Committee of the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and North Korea,
>>>>> the atheist NGs cannot survive without the brutal repression
>>>>> of those nasty 'ideas' which threaten it.
>
> What ideas would they be?
>
> The problem is not ideas, the problem is trolling and noise.
The problem is your inability to distinguish between
ideas and noise.
And the resulting belief, without any evidence that you can
tell teh difference, you have convinced gullible, low-IQ
atheists to believe that YOU can better decide that question than they can..
You are just a priesthood for atheists!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAHAAA
Haven't you noticed.. the POWER of the religious priests and Imams
is waning, after Gutenberg the people do not need anyone 'interpreting'
or 'filtering' their understanding for them.. they could READ AND DECIDE
for themselves... but you atheists are heading in the OPPOSITE,
RETROGRADE, direction! You are setting up structures to filter what
atheists see based on the outdated belief that you can better determine
what someone should see than they can..
That's why I fully support your move.
It will will further isolate and weaken your already tiny, disliked
and distrusted minority of rabid atheist militants.
I don't hate atheists, I despise what some of you are DOING to it!
Atheism needs a Reformation as badly as Islam does.
Hastening the collapse of the militants will just hjelp that process
along, just as the ultimate collapse of the priesthood and the Imams
is inevitable and will be beneficial.
Carry on building Fortress Pleasantville! B^D
>>>>>> Moderation for that newsgroup is now operational again *BUT* there is no
>>>>>> approval system in place at this time.
>>>
>>>>> Sounds just like EVERY idea-stifling atheist tyranny in history! B^D
>>>
>>>>> Why, you could be DESCRIBING how the North Korean Atheist regime
>>>>> operates today!!!! B^]
>
> You have a very vivid imagination ;-)
Why do you say that?
Do you disagree that in Nth Korea the moderation of views expressed is
operational?
All those who have been silenced are in no doubt, what do you have to
add to an understanding of their plight, As an atheist can you explain
why all atheist states are oppressive regimes, without exception?
Or do you think that in North Korea you can DESCRIBE the approval system
in place.
As an observer of the LAST atheist regime on the planet I would suggest
that there is no SYSTEM in place to approve or deny.. merely an
autocratic, tyrannical and arbitrary atheist power elite who contend
for power and influence.
That is why it is so chaotic and dysfunctional that it cannot even feed
it's people.. there is NO JUDICIAL, DEMOCRATIC, **SYSTEMS** to protect
the people from those arbitrary atheist tyrants!
I would be happy to hear why you think that situation is a product
of my imagination, unless you are just another atheist apologist for
the last atheist tyranny on earth.
Thanks for the compliment anyway, when imagination is
combined with a deep understanding of reality
you get creative and original outcomes..
>
>>>>>> So posts will not be appearing.
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>
>>>>> So it's already perfect for atheists!!!!
>>>
>>>>> After all, they only have one idea
>>>>> and really don't like hearing any others!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
>>>
>>>>>> I provisioned a server to handle moderation requests,
>>>
>>>>> It's an older Soviet model, combining a conveyor belt to carry
>>>>> non-atheist missives directly into a furnace!
http://www.colourbox.com/preview/1201307-73794-garbage-on-conveyor-belt-at-recycling-center.jpg
> As above
>
>>>>> B^D
>>>
>>>>> You have to laugh at people who can't handle 20th century
>>>>> freedom of speech and thought!
>
> Explained above,freedom of speech has limits.
Sure; in free societies you can't yell "fire" in a theatre.
In atheist regimes and your NG anyone can be branded a counter
revolutionary or troll and silenced, no matter what they have to say.
> any idiot knows this.
It's the second time I've had to explain it to you.
It's idiotic to propose limits on freedom of speech and then
be incapableof justifying them.
But then Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot never tried, either.
> If you don't think so I'd be more than happy to provide a list of things
> that you can try to test your freedom of speech.
You have already demonstrated your arbitrary use of the
atheist denunciation "Troll" and you had nothing
to support it's use then, so people can be pretty sure
you will never have anything supporting it's use in the future, either.
You have twice demonstrated you don't even understand the ISSUEs
around curtailing the Free Speech of Others. pffft
....it's just an ATHEIST GAG.
Q.E.D.
> They may result in jail time though.
Thanks for pointing out the difference in how free open
secular democracies handle the TESTING of alleged breaches
of the right to free speech eg, precise laws, courts to
arbitrate disputes, appeal procedures, due process,
decisions based on EVIDENCE, etc etc IN CONTRAST TO
all atheist states and your proposed atheist enclave,
where the appointed stooge shouts "Counter Revolutionary"
or "TROLL" and Free speech is extinguished.
Now I know it's asking too much for a simpleton like you
to grasp the point.. you have all the 'understanding' of
due process that was found in any Soviet Political Commissar..
..but most intelligent readers will see past your snide
evasions, and note your complete blindness to the issues.
That's what can happen in a FREE, OPEN, CONTESTED, UN-CENSORED
FORUM FOR RATIONAL DEBATE!
But in your Pleasantville Gulag I have already been labeled
as 'colored', and marked for silencing.
Thanks for making that crystal clear to everyone.
B^]
"The Truth Will Set You FREE"
>>>>>> the idea being that *ALL* pending and rejected posts will be
>>>>>> available for scrutiny by anyone who wishes to do so -
>>>>>> Along with reasons for rejection (if applicable).
>>>
>>>>> B^D And you thought Soviet bureaucracy was dead!
>>>
>>>>> If atheists were running Twitter it would take SIX MONTHS
>>>>> for your Tweet to be rejected and trashed.. but you would
>>>>> be able to see the rejection letter and see why!
>
> What makes you think twitter *isn't* run by atheists???
Did you have trouble following the comparison above? pffft!
>>>>> How much more 'democratic' and 'Free' do you think it gets
>>>>> in atheist regimes?
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>>>
>>>>> What a HOOT! B^D
>>>
>>>>>> This should give a good deal of transparency
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>>
>>>>> "Your Post is un-Atheist" - Stalin, The Transparent Tyrant!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA
>
> No matter how transparent it is
Oh, it's already 'transparent' people see through you. B^]
> (and it will be very transparent),
Curtailments on free speech in the secular democracies run by
majority religious societies have countless protections and
guarantees.. atheist regimes had none, neither does your proposal
eg.
Nowhere do you detail any transparency measures.
Apparently they are imaginary.
Infringements on free speech in the real world are defined,
testable and the testing occurs in a court, with die process
based on evidence.
You haven't even defined what constitutes a 'Troll'
But we have seen you use it in this very post without
referring to a single, verifiable misdemeanour on my part.
You didn't even TRY to justify your blatant prejudice.
Moreover you completely destroyed any confidence that you
understand 'transparency' when you counter-debated
my DEBATE till some arbitrary point where you ran out of
anything to say and simply started to use the T-word.
No citation of Troll-like behaviour, no evidence,
simply a baseless OPINION.
THAT, Komrade, is Classic Atheist Star Chamber,
Not a transparent due process.
You don't even seem to know what the terms mean.
try googling it next time so you can fake it more convincingly.
Or just get some atheist stooge to call this post "too Long"
snip it all and chant "TROLL TROLL TROLL"
pfffft!
> you'd not be happy.
I am perfectly happy..
This is all going extremely well, for me and the cause of freedom.
You, however, look as shonky as your mentor:
http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20120415/600_kim_jong_un_ap_120415.jpg
> But then it's not being made to please you.
Your inability to answer any of the issues IS the issue.
>>>>>> and make it
>>>>>> glaringly obvious if any moderator(s) are bringing personal opinions
>>>
>>>>> "Your post satirising atheism has been rejected not because of
>>>>> our personal prejudices and deep anti-intellectualism, but because
>>>>> humour must be regulated for atheism to exist."
>>>
>>>>> - KGB office of Humour Regulation!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>
> Oh dear, off into the realms of fantasy again
I'm trying to be as funny as you are when your are trying to be serious,
the posturing about transparency without mentioning
any measures that ensure it was hilarious.
Buzz-Word Bullshit it's called in the PR trade.
>>>>> That's fine, it's not as if there is anything PERSONAL
>>>>> in their oppression of free ideas! ;-)
>>>
>>>>>> into matters rather than impartially following the agreed rules.
>>>
>>>>> I urge all atheists to abandon the free open forums and huddle in their
>>>>> intellectual ghetto, after all.. you simply can't hold your own in
>>>>> a free and open forum.. you NEED protection from the cognitive
>>>>> dissonance when ideas challenge your prejudices.
>
> And some more!
Your inability to make any rational response, managing
only to make brief, Troll-Like non sequiturs raises the
possibility of you never being able to post in Alt. Atheist
Pleasantville, under any FAIR process.
>>>>>> It is live now but a work in progress:
>>>
>>>>>>
http://usenet.b0h0.com/alt.atheism.moderated/
>>>
>>>>>> I'll be working on the approval/automation system to try and bring it
>>>>>> all up again as soon as possible. In the meantime you should be able to
>>>>>> see any posted messages appear in "Pending".
>
>>>>> [...]
>
> The rest is just, I don't know how to describe it,
That's ok, you haven't demonstrated any understanding of
any of the issues, especially those surrounding the limits
to placing limits on Free Speech.. B^[
but then no atheist regime EVER worried about such niceties either! B^p
I look forward to monitoring your Atheist Pleasantville.
The parallels with Pyongyang are already clear. B^]
It appears there will be plenty of human rights abuses,
if the prejudice you displayed in this thread is anything to go by.
Off you go, Komrade.. start silencing free speech...
that's what the world EXPECTS atheist regimes to do and I'm the
man to help you promote your sacred Mission throughout USENET! ;-)
B^]
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