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lebanonfan

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Jul 14, 2006, 12:18:17 AM7/14/06
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Anyone who's ever been a student in a Catholic School surely knows what
is meant by a reference to their "PERMANENT RECORD".

The PERMANENT RECORD was held over my head (and the heads of my
classmates) by the good Sisters who taught us, all the way through St.
Francis Grade School.

It was considered the most egregious of egregiosities to have any bad
mark whatsoever on ones PERMANENT RECORD.

Boy. I sure would love to see what my PERMANENT RECORD looks like.
Wouldn't you?

Sassyfras

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Jul 14, 2006, 12:54:00 AM7/14/06
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ha, I'd forgotten about that, but if I now vividly remember hearing
that warning more often than once "Now that's something you really
don't want on your permanent record....." Eeek! God forbid it be so!

JazzyJ

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Jul 14, 2006, 8:49:59 AM7/14/06
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Yeah and then you get to college, and the only thing permanent about
your early school years was your final high school GPA. You find out
that none of that made a bit of difference.

I remember once at Lebanon Middle, I had the same teacher for both 6th
& 7th periods. Because people were going out and smoking during the
break between these periods, she stopped us from leaving between the
two periods and made us stay in the classroom.

Me being the rebel, I said I was thirsty, and I needed to go to the
bathroom. I was not about to have my "freedom" taken away because of
what other people did - hell I didn't smoke. I had never broken a
school rule in my life. So when the bell rang letting 6th period out,
I got up and proceeded to the door.

She told me not to come back and to keep on going to the Principal's
Office. So I went to the water fountain, to the bathroom, and then
walked on up to the Principal's Office. He was like "Now you don't
want something like this to go on your record". I was like oh well. I
didn't think it was right, and I told him to do whatever he needed to
do because by hell she was wrong. He sent me back to class. I was
suppose to go to detention but the paperwork never happened, and
nothing ever happened.

I always said that if someone ever questioned me about it being on my
record, I would make sure they knew the whole story. Now you know not
one single person ever even knew about that whole incident.

Sassyfras

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Jul 14, 2006, 10:10:38 AM7/14/06
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Jazzy,
you were such the rebel at a young tender age!
Hey, they had you're and BB's ,Madea on the 700 club this morning (no I
don't watch the 700 club, it just comes on after Fox in the Morning
goes off) It was an interview worth catching.

Foxtrot

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:55:07 AM7/14/06
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I attended a Central KY Catholic elementary school for 8 years and got
pretty much the same treatment as you guys described. It was not a good
experience for me and the quality of education was poor. About half the
nuns were down right mean, moody, scared us all about half to death
which certainly minimized learning, they grossly showed favoritism to
the smart rich kids, and I could go on and on. Went to Mass 6 days a
week, came back to class and had religion for another 45 minutes which
limited learning time essential for the basics needed. My parents paid
all that money for this and still got the give more, give more $$
treatment from the church to pay for a school which eventually ended up
closing. Later, the archdioceses leased it out to the state which left
my parents distraught. Thankfully, twenty of us students went onto a
county high school to be further humiliated because the other children
who attended public grade schools were more far advanced in their
education than us. The teachers all told us we were about a 1.5 years
behind and they were right because it took us to mid 11th grade to
catch up and it took its toll. I swore that if I ever had children I
would never put them through this and never would a damn nun ever
educate them. In fairness, I did have about 3 Sisters who were
excellent educators but they couldn't compensate for the rest. Oh yes,
once a week while an 8th grader we had to go to Thursday night
religious instruction for a priest to teach us about the facts of life.
Even at that age, we all wondered what on earth does he know about sex,
and family interaction, etc...? Keep in mind, in those days there were
virtually no discipline problems in schools, students and parents had
the utmost respect for teachers, and if we messed up we would get a
paddle on the backside at school and triple that when we got home.
Today, we wonder why a majority of our current children are so far
behind in the world of education.

I know everybody has their own story and not all KY Catholic schools
out in the counties were bad. In fact, some were good. Moreover, the
catholic and private schools in Louisville have always been far
superior to what I experienced. St. X , Christian Academy and Trinity
are leagues of their own but the families fork out approx $7500 per
year per student. Of course, that pays big dividends especially if the
student goes onto to college. I was fortunate to have done so. JazzyJ,
to your point, the final H.S. grade point average was the only thing
that meant anything and all those demerits and file notes didn't mean
anything except for a few red cheeks on the backside. LOL

Sassyfras

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Jul 14, 2006, 12:44:44 PM7/14/06
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My son is gonna love me because I already have plans to send him to X
or Trinity (God willing). $7500 seems like alot, but I compare it to
his first year of day care that cost me the same and the tuition
doesn't seem so bad for what you get.

Foxtrot

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Jul 14, 2006, 2:32:32 PM7/14/06
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Sassy - Your son is a very, very lucky young man who obviously is
blessed with wonderful parents. He'll look back one day and put you on
a pedestal, if he doesn't already. For years I've heard an old saying
you can always tell a St. X or Trinity or Assumption or Christian
Academy student by the way they walk the walk, talk the talk, and
dress. If that doesn't make a parent feel proud, I don't know what else
would. Wish I would of had that luxury.

lebanonfan

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Jul 14, 2006, 10:01:56 PM7/14/06
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It saddens me to hear of the bad experiences some have had in the
Catholic Schools - I do believe them.

I guess I was very fortunate in that all the nuns who ever taught me
were wonderful, creative women who really made a positive difference
for their service.

I laugh when I think back on the permanent record "threats" we used to
get, but I guess if you've had a bad experience with a nun you wouldn't
think it's so humorous.

Foxtrot

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:12:41 PM7/14/06
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Glad you had a good experience and grateful. Bet you were a model
student who got only A's in conduct. You were lucky to have such good
nuns. Were they Dominican?

lebanonfan

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Jul 15, 2006, 12:44:25 AM7/15/06
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Most were Ursulines. In our neighborhood, we were also influenced by
the Sisters of Loretto.

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