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Emerson Mata

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Aug 5, 2024, 12:08:01 AM8/5/24
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Irecently purchased part of a sign business that and assumed that businesses equipment, licenses etc. everything to operate and fly. Included in the acquired assets was a laserpoint cutter and a license for almost another year left of signcut. I deemed it prudent to update all of the contact information for licenes, warranties... etc everything so I may be notified of updates, sales, recalls- etc. The NORMAL stuff that comes with having such a thing-- who knew right??

Well I logged into signcutpro.com and updated the email to the NEW one for the company, hmmm... signcut swoops in and tells me my copy is no longer valid for updates or support as I was not the original purchaser. Mind you, the BUSINESS is the one that owns the license... not ME. It's a listed asset of the company. All this because I wanted to be notified of anything new with signcut and maybe, I don't know.... verify my license, how many I have... and my gosh- updates? Noooo... who wants those right?


Well apparently I am told that you can't transfer licenses and this is agains the EULA- Hmmm... ok fair enough, but nowhere does it list that you cannot change the contact information listed? or that your account on their website will magically be disabled if you CHANGE it?!?!


Actually I have read the transcripts of your conversation with our support desk. You left out the part after discovering that you have been sold a license from an end user that was unauthorized to sell and the sale was in violation of the EULA that we were offered the use of that license until it expired, then you would need to purchase your own license. You also did left out the part that you were told the license you had was a lifetime license and you needed to register it using the other users email, both not true.You indicated you bought the software from someone else who was not authorized to sell it to you. We gave you the information about the license and the amount of transfers you had left in what was remaining on the subscription. You were told if you wanted further support or updates you would need to purchase your own subscription. The license in question is still active. If you wanted to straighten this out, the issue is with the person who sold you a product they legally could not sell. You could have quite simply purchased your own subscription and deducted the cost from the purchase of the business.


Our policy outlined clearly in the EULA which you were given is that Signcut can not be sold, transferred, rented, loaned. If you purchased a business from someone then you should have looked into the EULAs for any problems with transferring. The difference you are talking about to have legitimate licensed software, support, and updates amounts to about $7.50-$5 dollars a month depending on the length of your subscription. You can by a stand alone dongled version for $299. The reason software like SignCut does not permit transfers, or sales is because most of the cost associated with software after development is startup support. If we allowed transfers or third party resale of our software we would then be supporting multiple users for startup which is cost prohibitive.


As has been said many times before - Ignorance of the law is no excuse. but when you try to sway other's opinion on partial or misleading information usually you are the only one that looks bad in the end. Que the nearest politician.


I don't buy stuff that can't be sold,given away,transferred,ect. If I pay for something, It;s mine. If I pay for a year's use of something and for some reason, can't use it for the full year, I expect a partial refund.


While on most things I agree with you John but with software you never own it you purchase a right to use it with the developers stipulations. In the case above the software is still active and usable with the original users email for the account. if it was a lifetime subscription it would come with a dongle and work either way - from what I can decipher it is not a lifetime license and that is where the problem really lies. Unfortunately many newer software titles are requiring the internet connection to use them so they can police their licences - I also like my software to work with or without an internet connection - my main cutting computer is not connected to the internet to protect from virus infection and other corruption.


My point was..if you don't agree,then don't buy. You might not OWN the software, but you OWN the license. Like I said, it's good for the seller, bad for the buyer. Again, this is why I buy the dongle versions. The license thing is a rip-off in the long term. But VERY profitable for the seller.


If the software developer doesn't wish to give up their rights to the software then it is essentially a lease and should be WRITTEN in plain text so the consumer knows they're only buying the usage rights rather than have to dig through the documentation to find it buried in fine print.


One thing I would suggest for Kimon is to have the Eula posted on the site - I searched and if it is there it is not easily found. in the interest of full disclosure it should be available to read before you buy the product


In order to purchase SignCut you need to register and download a trial license. On install the EULA is clearly displayed. It is not an unusual EULA but then of course most software users just click past the EULA and never actually read it.


See the thing is I don't MIND paying for software that I need or actually works. The thing is, I bought this fuctioning, ready to roll- needing no support or anything, business. just moved it to another computer, BAM- I am already cutting.


PS> KIMON- Chris is still trying to get a hold of you because hes trying to get his hands on the other license so he can use it for himself, since now neither of us have a valid one to use apparently. Something about one he Won in a contest back in October? Idk, idc. Thats all between you and him.


The other thing that is frustrating is the EULA hides behind the fact Signcut is based in Sweden.... In the US, I would be allowed to, as long as I am transferring assets of a company- take that license and it would still be valid as ownership never changed as in this case.


Also being a first time owner of a small home business- I am being nailed to the wall by a company being forced to spend more money when it's not absolutely necessary- I could see if I was on their support line daily, and costing a lot of time asking questions but again, totally not the case. In the USA- I would not have had this issue with an American based company.


" The other thing that is frustrating is the EULA hides behind the fact Signcut is based in Sweden.... In the US, I would be allowed to, as long as I am transferring assets of a company- take that license and it would still be valid as ownership never changed as in this case.


I don't mean to be combative or make this any worse , but what makes you think that I used SignCut & I remember the rules you mention dealing with E-Mail address etc . I am of the opinion that any company in the US can set the rules of what they sell except in some government semi-controled business like BG&E etc .


Just my take on the SignCut rudeness ... your 1rst & 2nd post here plus the online demeanor I perceive , makes me think of the old saying " you catch more flies with sugar than Sh*t " . I have found Kimon & SignCut 100% in everything I have been involved with them ( 3 year subscription ) & everything I have read here . Sometimes it is best to call when emotions are calm . my 2 cents


SignCut USA We show two licenses registered under your contact email, one is a trial that expires on the 14th and the other is a one year free bundle that came with your plotter from US Cutters. It expires on 10/22/2011. Unless you have purchased something under a different email you do not currently have a lifetime license dongleless or otherwise.


As a courtesy we will not cancel your current license but if you wish to renew it you or continue to receive support you will need to either create a new account using a different email address and then make your own purchase.


### This is where they have disabled updates, support, and access to the website for the signcut account at this point, without asking any further details, I had actually not even installed the software yet. Only was trying to get information- I could have gotten a refund and just not used any of the information had they not done this- and sent everything BACK


I like to give a honest perspective & try to be unbiased in doing so . The replies from SignCut does not seem unbusiness like at all IMO . I would not have taken offense or have thought I was owed from them . I think they were being cordial . From what you have said about buying part of the business, you can still use what has been paid for at that location or by using the e-mail address it was bought/won thru Sign on from wherever you want with that e-mail address ( if it came with your purchase was it a business item or personal property ? ) & use SignCut . With the monthly subscription being $5-$7.50 , this seems like a " principal " issue instead of a realistic issue .


I understand your perspective & many times companies can/will accomadate a situation like this . Other times they , like you & me get dressed every morning to go to work to make money , not friends . If they don't stay in business , there would be no benifit to you . I know a business can't lose money on every deal & try to make it up with volume with any success .


My advice is to use the software where the busines is that you bought into , use it where you are trying to with the screen name that was used at the time of purchase/winning the contest or pay the monthly subscription . I don't think SignCut has made it personal at all .

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