Robot Structural Analysis 2023 Tutorial

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Shane Rouse

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Aug 5, 2024, 8:36:36 AM8/5/24
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Iam new to Autodesk Robot. I realize Robot has better area (shell) meshing capabilities than most other strucutral analysis packages. I am wondering if there is a good tutorial video that outlines the steps from importing a curved surface mass object from Revit into Robot and then meshing it?

I have modelled a dome structure and a pipe sturcutre. I have to coombine them structurally and then create a structural analysis mesh. Attached is my attempt of modelling the structure, but I have no luck object-combining the pipe and the dome. The final product should be a pipe (chimney if you will) sitting on top of the dome. Is there a good isntructional video on how to merge/combine the pipe with the dome and then meshing the whole structure for structural analysis. Basically I am trying to make use of the curved surface meshing capabilities of Robot which seems to not be found in most other sturctural analysis program. My intent is to export the mesh to a .dxf. Can you perhaps create a an intructional video/screencast or point me to a relevant tutorial video?


I have been through the help file and the Training manual but if Im being honest I don't find all that helpful. It doesn't help that the training manual availiable on this site is for an old release of the software.


This is how I think I should proceed in a way that utilises Robot's auto generation of snow/wind loads and combinations as much as possible. Note that this structure is to be designed to the Eurocodes with the relevant UK national annex.


Assuming the above makes sense then I am fine upto stage 7 but stage 8 onwards is where I am into new territory with Robot. There is one complication instage 7 that I can think of at the moment and that I am not sure how robot handles it. If I create multiple live loads to represent the live load on the structure does robot know to treat them all as a single variable load for the purposes of load combinations? Or do I have to tell robot what loads are to be treated as a single load case for combinations generation?


I am pretty much at the stage where I have the basic bars and panels all set-up and I need to add the loads. I have noticed that the snow/wind load 2D/3D button is greyed out. Can I not use the auto generation tool ?


This is the steel design module territory. Basically you assign set of design parameters to each element of the model and then you create groups of elements for which you want to find the (same) correct profile. There are a lot of posts about steel design on this forum.


You can just set the analysis type as non linear. This is not a big deal for Robot and the calculation process is the same for sway or not sway structure. The only point is the definition of buckling length values for columns but this is going to be your responsibility anyway.


Yeah recently I've bought some tutorials from these guys, one for Revit Structure an another for Robot Structure for steel structures. First let me tell that some tutorials are more suitable if you don't have any previous knowledge of the software, for example the one for Revit Structure it's better if you don't have a lot of knowledge about Revit as a whole. I worked with Revit some years ago, but after moving to Advance Steel for a while I kinda forgot most of Revit's work-flow, so at least this first tut got me in the right path...


The other for Robot was quite helpful as I'm actually new to the software, and I actually wasn't sure what was the workflow e.g. when to assign the code properties to bars, when to define loads etc., specially the part of the code was kinda confusing to me, so it gave me some crystal clear idea of what steps should I follow.


Well, why should we give 60$ to them, better to give you cca half the price. In that way you will refund some many and we get tutorial at cheaper price. If you are interested contact me to milosi...@ymail.com


Are you kidding me? I've checked out the tuts down at Udemy, and no disrespect to the author but he treats RSA like drafting software which is not! After what happened to the Miami surfside building and multiple other bridges across the USA that report structural damage due to poor design, it gets to my nerves seeing how somebody thinks is a qualified structural engineer just because he can click some icons in a structural analysis software, all in all, if you are serious about engineering and respect your own career stay away from Udemy.


With the release of the Building Design Suite Ultimate 2013, many of you will now have access to Autodesk Robot Structural Analysis Professional 2013. I thought I would spend a little time looking at the interface between Revit and Robot and also checking out some of the transfer options and how they work with the Revit 2013 release.


In older releases the transfer option from Revit to Robot was located on the extensions ribbon but this is now found on the Analysis ribbon along with the analyse in cloud option with Autodesk 360. The interface is surprisingly simple to use and the transfer works very well providing you model the structure correctly within Revit Structure. Some of the biggest issues I have found with the transfer and subsequent analysis have been that the analytical model has not been suitably edited and the tolerances were not set correctly.


Once you have selected the Robot Structural Analysis link then you will see the Integration dialog box. This enables you to send and also update the model from Robot. You can even transfer the Revit Structure model to a Robot Analysis file (.rtd) if you do not have Robot installed on your PC.


The send Options allow access to some further tools that can really make a difference to the way that Revit Structure transfers a model to RSA. You can see below that the self weight of the structure can be mapped to a Dead Load and the Bar end releases can be read from Revit or ignored. The option to use a curtain wall and mullions as panels is quite an interesting option but this only works for curtain walls drawn as walls within Revit. You can also see that stray nodes and inconstancies can be corrected with the Execute model correction tool.


Once the structure has been transferred the analysis can be run within Robot. The return of the data back into Revit Structure needs to be carefully considered as the technician is likely to be working on the structure while the engineer is making changes and the model can easily become unsynchronised.


I have also tested the transfer of connections from Robot to Revit and this works well but just for end plate to column flange connections. Robot is capable of designing the connection based on the loads from the analysis, then you can tweek and edits the sizes of plates, bolts etc and then transfer this back into Revit to form part of the documentation. I expect that this is an area that Autodesk will focus on in the future and Revit Structure will likely become a tool capable of producing the fabrication drawings and documentation.


A tutorial video is the best idea ofcourse.. My Revit concept is quite clear, and I have completed some projects successfully but I have some problems working on Robot, I hope they would get cleared away as well.


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