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Mygoal is to empower you to deepen your spiritual practice, open your heart, and meet life with clarity and confidence through jyotiṣa (vedic astrology), pranayama, and embodied contemplative spirituality.

I thoroughly enjoyed my natal consultation with Nate. He quickly and intuitively synthesized multiple complicated dynamics in my chart. The reading was friendly and conversational. I loved the give and take that helped make the material feel accessible and real. I was able to share my questions and priorities and he responded with useful insight into both astrology and life. He had a particularly good take on vocation and mission, and I can imagine his vocational calibrations are great. Setting up the appointment, payment, and video session, as well as accessing the recording of the session, was very easy, and Nate provided just the right amount of communication throughout. I look forward to working with Nate again!

Join me on the ride as I turn from a skeptic to a believer! Debra SIlverman is a world renowned astrologer and psychologist, who takes us on a journey through my astrological chart, revealing hidden truths and surprising insights about my personality, strengths, and life path.

AUBREY MARCUS: And I think one of the reasons is I've just never seen something that quite fit what, you know, just the average amateur, I know your birth sign, I anticipate this, or I do a Google search and I see it, and I'm like, yeah, I get a little bit of that, but like, it's much more complex than that, and so it's never really fit me, and I've also not understood the mechanism by which it would work, although I did listen to a speech from Richard Tarnas, who explained that it was this co arising in the cosmos, and so that opened my mind a little bit, but then, to bring us to the present, we just dropped in for almost three hours yesterday, two and a half hours, good, and I'm a believer now. I never thought I'd be here. And so we're starting from a different place than I anticipated. But I'd love to just, first of all, say thank you for that session yesterday, cause it wasn't just astrology. It was like deep shamanic work and working with the elements. And it was really beautiful, really, you know, life changing in many ways. So first of all, thank you. And excited to, you know, speak to those people that may be like me and be like, this is all a bunch of bullshit. This is all the Barnum effect and people trying to apply things that are general to something specific enough. Reading the person. And then also go a little deeper into some of the specifics and things that we've experienced and that's our itinerary for the day.

DEBRA SILVERMAN: It's so funny because in true double Pisces fashion, I'm writing a book that will be coming out in a year in 13 languages and the name of the book is, I Don't Believe in Astrology. So you just nailed it. So that is what I respond to is there's so many people and I understand the skeptics because I was once a skeptic. Like how could it possibly be true and make it really specific for me to your point so I can feel it and not just hear words and jargon because so much of the new age has all these words. We go through these means and we scroll and we listen to all the, but when it touches your heart and it's shamanic and it enters the body and there's a shift that takes place in a real concrete way, that's the difference between talking about astrology and embodying Astrology.

AUBREY MARCUS: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's I think, what it is. And it's my way of knowing, like, this is my epistemology. How do I know what I know? You know, like, what's the process? For me I have to feel it.

AUBREY MARCUS: Like it has to come inside my body and I have to feel it. And that was the road that we crossed yesterday. And once I've crossed that road, there's no coming back. Like after I felt God, it's not like, I don't know about God. I mean, I felt it this one time and I go, Oh no, I know. And then I'll feel it more and more times, of course, confirm it. But that's kind of the position that I'm in now. It's like, wow. And also, you know, there's interesting things that we explored, like me having no earth signs in my chart at all.

AUBREY MARCUS: And still exhibiting strong and manifesting a lot of earth qualities. Right. And so I think that was one of the reasons that I was like, I don't know if I believe in this because there's complexities about myself that only with like the master's touch. And I know you would, like any master, you'd be like, I'm just a student, blah, blah, blah. We get it. But nonetheless, that master's. I was able to, like, bring me deeper into the chart to help me understand.

DEBRA SILVERMAN: So the first book I wrote was called The Missing Element, and when you're missing an element, it doesn't mean you don't have it. It means that you already did in a past life, and this lifetime they said enough with that. If we gave you too much earth, think of what you would have been like. If they would have given you earth. So some people, my best friend owns a lumberyard, she has no earth in her chart, but she works around wood all day. So it doesn't mean when you're missing an element, you don't have it. It does mean it's a lesson. It's teaching. You've either come in with an advanced version or you're suffering and learning at the beginning level. So it's always extreme. But in your case, your earth element, I mean, I was in awe. I was writing it down, writing all the things that you've accomplished. I was like, this guy has no earth because God said, don't give him anymore. Just think of how worked out you would have been if you were a really grounded guy.

AUBREY MARCUS: Yeah. That's a very interesting place to put. All right. So we have a couple of things I want to talk about. One is I want to go through the elements and give people who don't understand how the elements affect a person and what they really mean. I want to talk about that. And then I also want to take a step back because we just brought in this concept of reincarnation and part of the purpose of this, which is the learning of different lessons throughout this life. And so, first of all, just to zoom out the furthest, like what are your thoughts and feelings about, and maybe known beliefs or just a gnosis about how our souls incarnate. And what the purpose of this life is.

DEBRA SILVERMAN: I love that question. I knew, you know how when you do podcasts, people ask the same questions. I knew you weren't going to do that. You started with my favorite question. I think there's a design, said the astrologer. The astrology suggests, as Einstein said, God's not playing with dice. It's not random. There's an event that occurs. There's a whole system around it. And the stars are directly related to the karma that you have been handed from past lives. I don't think there's a mystery anymore, that there's a continuum, that there's a spiral. I mean, if we have to debate that with the wrong audience.

AUBREY MARCUS: No, I mean, and it's been like really conclusively shown in the University of Virginia's work on reincarnation people, thousands of people who remember details of past lives. That would be impossible unless there was a continuity of consciousness.

DEBRA SILVERMAN: Like, why did you incarnate? What is the purpose of incarnation if not to evolve? To continually wake up inside the dream, and then play the role of the joy maker, of the lover, of the manifester, of the artist, like, you get to choose, but we can't remember.

AUBREY MARCUS: You know what's interesting is, so that was a big piece that came out, was that one of my soul's promises was to re understand and re imagine relationships. And, you know, really bring forth the future of what love and relationship might look like. Right. And I've felt that, you know, and what's interesting is I had a transmission with a very powerful medicine woman who went into a full trance and made me bow my head. She was in a full trance or in a medicine ceremony. And I bowed my head and she transmitted this journey of my soul's evolution. And what was very interesting is I saw all of these flashes of like lifetimes lived and it was like, but it played out as almost like one story. And the story was, that I was a lover and a bard and I was like a poet and a bard

AUBREY MARCUS: And a singer and a lover. And then some bad people or bad dark forces of some sort came and they killed my love and burned my village and then I became a warrior and then I became a warrior, but I was so filled with vengeance and wrath that I kept killing and killing and killing until I became like a monster

AUBREY MARCUS: But the warrior. So definitely the warrior, but I extended beyond. It was like, it wasn't just, I got the revenge for the killer of my beloved, I kept chasing down and burning down all the villages of where he came. It was like that, like it went dark. And then the medicine woman just purged started vomiting and I started getting nauseous, like purging that. And then I saw myself make the turn, recognized like this is too far. And then, I saw myself now in the reclamation of that lover. But from this post-tragic lens of having gone through the journey. And so now, you know, seeing that, it's like, I still have a lot of that warrior in me. It's a part of my soul's path. But really it's about reclaiming the lover at a higher level.

AUBREY MARCUS: Yeah, well, and I think the beauty of it is because I can speak to the warrior because I have enough of it in me where they can see like, Oh, Tadfa Masih, like I am that too. You know, like you and I, like, I see enough of myself and I can say, and here's the path of the lover. Here's the path of like deepest, deepest intimacy because reality is a relationship, right? It's like, this is

DEBRA SILVERMAN: You have definitely an indicator in your chart with Jupiter and Saturn. You had two planets standing next to each other in a relationship. One is the life lesson we talked about Saturn, but right next with the same degree is a planet that's a hundred times the size of earth, it's Jupiter. It's giant with sitting on your life lesson going, you're going to do this big. You're not going to. And so publicly, I mean, you've had some real, I can imagine even for me when we started, I was like, tell me about what you do in a relationship. And as I heard your heart, I was like, okay, I'm learning from you. I'm adjusting what I thought was what I consider my norm and including yours. And that is the nature of astrology. It's accepting other people's realities with curiosity. Like I don't know how to do what you do. I don't understand the nature of a new relationship, but I'm curious. And this is what decides if we're going to evolve this life. That's why this podcast is so popular. How much can we listen and learn and ask questions and scratch our heads and do plant medicine and make us nuts so we can reevaluate our old thought processes that are stale. So you're really, thank you. And that's not an easy path.

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