Subtasks not showing up ANYWHERE except inside the story

[roe...@kobidigital.com]

Subtasks aren't showing up anywhere for me except when I click a story. And there is nowhere to see that a story had subtasks. This means that a user would have to click every story to verify wether or not it has a subtask or not... really? Please tell me I am missing something because this seems so extremely illogical it makes me want to facepalm.

[Juan Francisco Alcántara]

If you have enabled blacklog you can see all the tasks of the sprint userstories

Regards

2015-12-17 18:26 GMT+01:00 <roe...@kobidigital.com>:

Subtasks aren't showing up anywhere for me except when I click a story. And there is nowhere to see that a story had subtasks. This means that a user would have to click every story to verify wether or not it has a subtask or not... really? Please tell me I am missing something because this seems so extremely illogical it makes me want to facepalm.

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[roe...@kobidigital.com]

Not with me. I see user stories but I don't see the subtasks for a user story.

Op donderdag 17 december 2015 18:41:46 UTC+1 schreef Juan Francisco Alcántara:

[Juan Francisco Alcántara]

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[roe...@kobidigital.com]

I still don't see subtasks in these views.

Do you understand my question correctly or is there some confusion?

I see stories in backlog / kanban. But not the subtasks that are included within a story. I don't want to see it in sprints. I want to see it in backlog or kanban view 

- Story

--- Subtask

Like that.

Op donderdag 17 december 2015 18:54:07 UTC+1 schreef Juan Francisco Alcántara:

[Alejandro Alonso]

Hello Roelan,

We fully understand your question, I think the confusion comes from a scrum point of view about what user story and tasks means. A user story, is a way to define a software feature from an end-user perspective. For example, a user story may look like "As a user, I want to be able to update my profile with age, present occupation and social interests, so that people visiting my profile page get an idea of my interests". A task, on the other hand, is typically something like code this, design that, create test data for such-and-such, automate that, and so on. These tend to be things done by one person. When creating a backlog or doing estimations you should be thinking at user story level, not in tasks, that's the reason why backlog work with user stories.

The usual scrumworkflow divides the user stories in tasks when you create a sprint and you move them there, that's the reason why the visualization of tasks only makes sense when you have selected a sprint.

Backlog -> works with user stories

Sprint -> work with tasks from the user stories associated to that sprint

So, answering your initial question:

Subtasks aren't showing up anywhere for me except when I click a story.

 

Tasks are shown in the detail view of a user story and if you select a sprint from the taskboard view.

 

And there is nowhere to see that a story had subtasks. This means that a user would have to click every story to verify wether or not it has a subtask or not... really?

That's true because if you are working in backlog mode it doesn't makes sense that your user stories have no tasks associated, they should have at least one under an agile/backlog point of view.

 

Please tell me I am missing something because this seems so extremely illogical it makes me want to facepalm.

We have an article in our blog speaking about user stories, it could be usefull -> https://blog.taiga.io/user-stories-demystified.html. There are also a lot of articles about the differences between user stories, tasks, epics, features...(for example this one https://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/blog/the-difference-between-a-story-and-a-task). I would also recommend the reading of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(software_development)#Artifacts (the different artifacts used on scrum), it also includes a clear explanation about how backlog and sprint at user story and task level.

I hope we saved you from the facepalm ;)

Regards!,

2015-12-17 19:00 GMT+01:00 <roe...@kobidigital.com>:

I still don't see subtasks in these views.

Do you understand my question correctly or is there some confusion?

I see stories in backlog / kanban. But not the subtasks that are included within a story. I don't want to see it in sprints. I want to see it in backlog or kanban view 

- Story

--- Subtask

Like that.

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