Are you interested in developing resources collaboratively?

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Nelson, Michael

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Jun 13, 2005, 9:23:29 PM6/13/05
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Just starting a new email thread with Tony's question below: is anyone
else interested in developing resources together for the web-design
modules?

We could even start with the new units of competency for next year. I
think the latest pre-endorsed ICA05 package is at:
(sorry if the links break)

http://www.vetinfonet.det.wa.edu.au/main/docs/vol%201%20nc%20fixed%20v22
a.pdf

http://www.vetinfonet.det.wa.edu.au/main/docs/vol%202%20nc%20fixed%20v2c
.pdf

That way we'd be getting ready for the big change next year!
-Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Tafe...@googlegroups.com [mailto:Tafe...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tony Lorriman
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 09:16
To: Tafe...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some thoughts from Cessnock........


Thanks Michael. I did have a look at your blog etc and I did find the
information from Russ Weakley and forwared that onto a couple of my PT
web teachers so I hope they will also have a look. I will certainly
have a browse thru it shortly. I chose Dreamhost is USA
http://www.dreamhost.com mainly because it seemed a good deal at the
time and yes we also went the ftp to a local server, but then they
could not access their work from home etc. Dreamhost currently have a
sale on for their Code Monster plan which might be worth a look, but
even if you sign up for the $7.95 a month plan, you can always
upgrade. That's the way we strated and then found that our students
were running out of storage space so we upgraded.

I am pleased that you are interested in the shared resources idea. Is
anyone else interested in this as well?? If so we can get started
pretty quickly and just make it a constant work in progress. and then
if necessary we could mirror the info to other people's servers or
whatever way they want to appraoch it.

Cheers



On 6/13/05, Michael Nelson <mic...@absoludity.net> wrote:
> Thanks Tony for this great information!
>
> I'll definitely be talking with my H/T about the possibility of
setting up
> something similar. Just the ability to give participants a chance to
use
> _real_ ftp from the beginning would be unreal (I currently have people
using
> ftp to our own internal server until they get their own domain).
>
> I had a look at your IT course website... it's great to be able to
view your
> assessments etc., and get an idea for how you're running the course -
I find
> this kind of stuff invaluable!
>
> I've used Moodle for 2 semesters, but am currently using it less than
in the
> past as we've been trying to re-structure the course. You can read
about our
> reflections of teaching Web Design, if you have time, but the main
thrust of
> the re-design was to break the course up into a number of
mini-projects that
> integrate different modules as well as build on the skills of the
previous
> mini-projects. All this while trying to encourage students to work on
their
> own projects rather than setting the specs for them (hoping for
increased
> motivation etc). As I mentioned, to facilitate the communication for
this,
> we've been using our WebDesign blog in conjunction with Moodle-based
> assessment materials. If you get a chance to look, you'll notice that
(1)
> it's pretty empty now, and (2) I liked the Moodle Workshop module
(you'll
> need to request a logon to access the workshops, otherwise you'll just
see a
> "Not Available").
>
> As for you idea for collaborating for resource development, I love it!
We
> should talk about this further - we could either go for a platform
such as
> http://teachingwebdesign.wikispaces.org/ (I just set this
> up, feel free to edit it etc. to get a feel for the wiki), or
something more
> closed (requiring a logon etc.) such as a moodle wiki for working on
the
> ideas, then structuring the course material from this. I too would
love to
> have more input from more people so we can in turn expose our
> participants/students to the best opportunities for learning!
>
> Here's a resource you might find handy: We recently had a Russ Weakley
> (Sydney-based web designer, also member of WebStandardsGroup. Read
more)
> come and do a step-by-step tutorial demonstrating the way he uses CSS
to
> layout his pages. He then made the material available online on his
> MaxDesign Presentations and Articles page. Hope it's useful!
>
> Thanks again!
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:12 -0700, Tony wrote:
> Hi Michael and all.

Basically I just paid for our own domain using my
> credit card (about
$400 US for 2 years) and then as Head Teacher claimed
> that back from
the section by writing a purchase requisition signed off by
> my manager.
We have 15 primary domains and 75 sub domains that we can use
> and
about 3000 email accounts. We are also just starting out with
> running
Web online.

Each student who enrols in the course gets their own
> web space in the
form of name.cessnock-ict.net with email address and ftp
> access. We
initially had some problems with opening up ftp access from one
> of our
rooms but that has been resolved. The quality of work varies and we
> do
conduct rolling enrolments so some of the Part Time students have
> not
uploaded anything yet as they have only just had their account
> created,
and of course others have done some work and since left the
> course.
There are some interesting graphics however.

Our numbers are not
> large either but we are widespread having one
student who initially started
> f2f with us now continues from her new
location in Perth.

Our web site is
> http://www.cessnock-ict.net and when you go there you
will find a splash
> screen that was designed by one of our students.
There are 3 links to Web
> Design, Level III (not much in this one) and
Moodle. We have not done a
> great deal with Moodle yet except convert
some of the modules from the ANTA
> toolbox into this platform and top
comply with licence requirements I have
> to make it hard to get to,
hence the requirement for a key. If you want to
> have a look at the
moodle site just fill out a registration form and it will
> email me and
I will give you the key to get in. I am keen to do more in
> moodle when
I can get the time. So I am really interested in what you have
> been
doing with moodle.

Here is a thought for you all. What if we all
> collaborate on a moodle
platform and develop the resources etc for each of
> our own specialist
areas for all of us to use and contribute to? Kind of
> like our own
version of a wiki. I would love to have more input from people
> who
know more than we do about some of the subject areas and so on.

We can
> then experiment on setting up our own groups on that space to
use the
> gathered resources.

I have a blog but have not used it very much but am
> always open to
change.

Cheers

>
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