1 Hit Kill Cheat Pokemon Fire Red

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Emigdio Binet

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Aug 5, 2024, 12:10:16 AM8/5/24
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Firstof all, I don't believe the AI in Pokemon has any reason to cheat. Pokemon battles are by default completely fair. Every Pokemon owned by the enemy trainer is a Pokemon you could also go out and capture or trade to get. And all the moves their Pokemon knows are moves you could teach to your own Pokemon.But regardless the AI feels the need to cheat. Some examples I've seen:It knows how many turns Sleep and Confusion will last for.When a Pokemon is put to sleep or confused, the game internally decides how many turns it will last for. Nobody should be able to see this number, the player certainly can't, but the AI does and it uses this to its advantage.How it cheats: it knows exactly which move your Pokemon is going to wake up on, and it will use Sleep Powder or Sing on this turn to put your Pokemon back to sleep (these moves would fail if your Pokemon is already asleep).Evidence: the AI fails sometimes. If the enemy Pokemon is too fast, it will use Sleep Powder, it will fail because your Pokemon is already asleep, and then your Pokemon will wake up. This happens all the god damn time. You can also confuse the AI by using an item on the turn your Pokemon is about to wake up on (but, this is all down to chance, since you don't know which turn it will wake up on).It knows in advance how much damage its attack will doI had a Gyarados, which has high defense so most attacks to it will do less damage than expected. Regardless, the AI knew my Gyarados had only 14 HP left (yes, it cheats and sees how much HP you have, while you can't see the enemy's HP at all). It knew a Quick Attack would deal exactly 14 HP damage, taking into account the defense of my Gyarados.But I foiled its plans by healing my Gyarados. It followed up with a Quick Attack which did exactly 14 damage.It knows what move you're about to useI was battling Bruno of the Elite Four, and he has a Forretress that knows the move Protect.Protect always goes first in the turn it's used, and it prevents the opponent's move from hitting.Bruno's Forretress is a cheating bastard though, because it only uses Protect when you're going to use your most powerful move. Forretress is weak to fire, so I used my Typhlosion's Blast Burn move, which is a very powerful fire attack. Forretress used Protect so it failed; I tried again, it used Protect a second time. Tried again, and this time it hit, because Forretress knows that Protect can't be used more than twice.I battled Bruno later with my Umbreon. I used Dark Pulse, the most powerful move my Umbreon knows, and Forretress used Protect to block it.I figured Forretress was gonna use Protect again, so I used Faint Attack instead. This hit. So I tried Dark Pulse again -- Forretress used Protect and blocked it. I tried again, Forretress tried Protect again, but it failed (you can't use it more than twice). So, I confused the AI there.Anyway, I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. The AI has no reason to cheat. It wouldn't be that hard for Nintendo to program the AI to pretend it doesn't know all this stuff that it shouldn't know about the battle (hint: they just don't need to program it to look). There's probably logic in the code like, "if the player chose the player's most powerful move, and protect hasn't been used twice in a row now, use protect". Nintendo should just NOT write that code. Pokemon battles are fair by default. Tags: Rant Comments There are 105 comments on this page.Add yours.

i was also battling the electic gym in fire red a few moments ago lvl 21 pikachu vs my lvl 19 pikachu. i had dig (dont ask why) and since its ground it will do massive dmg to electric. first i used double team 3 times to make sure i would not be hit hardly ever. guess what. i dig. i MISS. his pikachu hits me with a 2 quick atacks in a row without me attacking... im down to low health. i dig this time it hits and brings him to half. i need 1 more dig to beat him. god forbid he actually miss seing as how my evasiveness is pretty high at this point... nope he hits me and im dead...


That happens to me all the damn time, I'm confused I always get hit but if they're confuse maybe they'll hurt themselves once every 4 turns. And if asleep or confused, whatever, they snap out of it or wake up after one or two turns while i stay that way. WTF?!


The A.I. can use Double Team only once and you will miss five times in a row, but you can Double Team to the max and the A.I. will never miss. And when you're confused you'll hit yourself 5 times but when the A.I. is confused it will wear off in 2 turns without the A.I. ever hitting itself. And the A.I. will freeze you and you will stay frozen for several turns, but when you freeze the A.I. it will thaw out immediately. I hate it.


I don't know what to say, everyone seems to be on the same boat. Let me give you an example, a move with 30% chance of confusing (hurricane) and 70% accuracy used by the friken whimsicott will ALWAYS HIT AND CONFUSE me. Guess what? I hit myself 5times if I survive the rest of hurricane spam or I hit myself once-twice and I get koed from a crit that ALWAYS follow after. Seriously, did Game Freak really need to cheat AI trainers to that step and bring us players to insanity?


Guess what. Just patched my Soul Silver, played from Falkner to Whitney; when I reach her, my Heracross destroyed her Clefairy. Then Milktank enters, uses attract; but knowing that her Stomp would take 4 turns to kill my Heracross I thought "well one single hit out of 4 and I win.


First off, the AI will use a weak move if your pokemon has low health regardless of weather or not it would actually kill it. Sometimes my Pokemon survives after even 2 of these weak hits when one of it's stronger moves would have killed me in one hit. It was just a coincidence that quick attack on Gyrados dealed 14 damage exactly. Also since quick attack is one of the weakest moves, the AI will usually use this move if it has it when your Pokemon is weak which is a coincidence working in the AI's favor, especially after a move like Endeavor.


With protect sometimes they will use it even if I use a move that doesn't do damage, and sometimes they use it every other turn so it will never fail when it seems to be trying to stall me out especially if I'm poisoned.


It definitely doesn't know exactly what move you will use next because after you use the same move 1 to 3 times, it will switch to a Pokemon where that move isn't very effective or effective at all against it. You can take advantage of this by using a move that would be effective against your pokemon's weaknesse(s) or if you knew what Pokemon they were going to switch out if you knew what Pokemon they already had such as from a previous battle.


Not even one "Staraptor is Fast Asleep" message appeared, and most places on the internet say sleep in Generation 4 lasts 1-4 turns, well it's actually 0-4 turns (and no Staraptor does not have Early Bird as an ability, it has Intimidate). Sometimes my Pokemon will wake up on the turn that it is put to sleep, but it's extremely rare while this happens to the AI a little more often. My Pokemon are usually asleep for 3 or 4 turns before waking up, sometimes 2 and the AI's are usually asleep for 1 to 3 turns before waking up.


This falls under the category of "Hax" where the computer is more lucky than you with things such as sleep, burns, freezes (in my Platinum game the AI has been ESPECIALLY lucky with paralysis from electric moves or the static ability and still pretty luck with 55 accuracy moves like super sonic, sing, and grass whistle), critical hits, flinching, attacks hitting or missing, stat bonuses, abilities and the length of status ailments. This seems to be the case more in the Battle Tower if you rack up a lot of wins, but this isn't always the case as I've been lucky myself even in the battle tower.


So yeah the AI is a cheating bastard in this game, but it could have been worse. I mean, you can also use tons items on your Pokemon if you have money and the AI can basically only use one Full Restore or Potion per Pokemon it has or even every other Pokemon it has. This is also limited to rich trainers and bosses like the Gym leaders and the Elite 4. Some scientists or something might use X attacks and X defends etc. though.


Something that really pisses me off is random encounters... You know those times when you're trying to train something in an area with Pokemon that are strong against it? Well, for some reason they seem to show up more often when i'm using the Pokemon with a weakness... Whats worse is that whenever i try to run, it usually takes 1-3 failed escapes before i can get away, but my Pokemon can flee from everything else in the area without a problem... The wild Pokemon doesn't even spend the turns it has doing anything useful... Usually just lowering my stats or increasing its own. For fucks sake!


Nice to know I am not alone. EVERY time i encounter a pokemon with a move that confuses targets (even those without 100% accuracy) it uses that move and my pokemon becomes confused. Its confusion lasts a MINIMUM of 3 turns and has a 100% chance of hitting itself in confusion at least once. Sleep lasts about the same for my pokemon; however, i have used hypnosis on enemy pokemon, and on MULTIPLE occassions, it woke up in 0 turns... WTF no need for cheating


Got so angry during my latest Emerald playthrough that I felt the need to rant on the internet. Mauville Gym, using level 31 kadabra, one shotting every single pokemon until manetrike comes out. He uses thunder wave first since he has higher speed. For the next SIX FUCKING TURNS I am paralyzed and cannot move. paralysis usually just cheats between 2-4 times and then lets me hit, but six times is just ridiculous.


Confusion is almost as bad. I get confused now and I just say fuck it and switch my pokemon, because anything is more effective than sitting their, having my pokemon punch itself in the head four turns in a row.


Been trying for 3 days to beat one round of White 2's rental tournament. Lose every. single. fucking. time. Why? Because even when I get fully evolved bruisers or special sweepers, doesn't fuckin matter because the AI will either mysteriously dodge all my moves or crit me. I had a Simipour against the AI's simipour. I use focus blast. Miss. Their Simipour uses focus blast. Hits. I use focus blast. Miss. Their simipour uses focus blast. CRITICAL. Send out my Zweilous with a quick claw. Quick claw activates, I use Crunch. MISS. My zweilous didn't even have Hustle so crunch has 100% accuracy.

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