WWF SUCKS!!!! Why WCW is the holder of the title
T.J.#20
WCW Rules! What's with all the stupidity behind the WWF now. I used to
like WWF back in the 80's, what happened? It seems that WWF has very little
to do with wrestling nowadays. All it is about is dead people coming to
life (the whole retarded Kane and Undertaker feud which is really pathetic,
I can't even believe they're still going on with it), people with
guns(Pillman), cops arresting people, giving the finger and grabbing
crouches. The problem with the WWF is that they have to go back to the
basics, they should go back and remember aside from all this drama and
masquerade, and go back to what the WWF really is supposed to be, which is
wrestling. There is just not enough wrestling anymore. I have now
completely converted to WCW. I'm very sick of all the stupid things that go
on in the WWF. The last Wrestlemania was the most disappointing event I've
ever seen. Vince should stop getting involved so much, nobody likes him,
everybody's sick of seeing him, but he keeps getting involved, like the
people are there to see him. The worst part of the WWF, is the way they
manipulate you. They get you thinking like a "BIG" match is coming up, like
how many times was Vince supposed to fight Stone Cold, or how many times did
a match get setup on RAW for the WARZONE and it didn't happen, some stupid
excuse, like Dude Love coming in and nailing Stone Cold so he can't get his
hands on Vince. I was a long time fan of the WWF way back to Wrestlemania 1
where Hogan and Mr.T took on Piper and Orndorff, the WWF was in its prime in
Wrestlemania 3 where Hogan fought Andre the Giant. The WWF is not the same
anymore. It all comes back to Hulk Hogan, the real reason why the WWF
soared back then. But that's not to say that if Hulk Hogan was in the WWF,
the WWF would rock, I can admit that even Hogan can't save the state that
the WWF is in now. What the WWF needs is a new coordinator. Vince's
ideas(if they are his) are dry and really repetitive (too predictable). WCW
has its flaws too, but there are more superstar calibre wrestlers in the
WCW. The turning point to the my disapproval with the WWF was probably when
Bret Hart left, I was skeptical before but I still watched WWF because they
still had some pretty good matches occasionally, but when I heard about the
whole Bret Hart fiasco, I sided with Bret and followed him to WCW. WWF will
fall, once Owen Hart leaves, perhaps Shawn Michaels who is nowhere to be
found should sign with WCW. The only commodity that WWF has now is Stone
Cold, who is hot right now, aside from that, the roster is pretty thin,
Triple H, Shamrock have potential, but seriously Terry Funk? That shows how
pathetic WWF is by signing a 50+ year old, I mean I used to like Funk, but
now he's got a gut and a half and has no wrestling skills whatsoever. WWF
is pathetic!
(Bischoff can kick McMahon ass any day, did you hear what happened?
McMahon refused Bischoff challenge, he didn't want the cameras around
because he feared embarrassment if he lost, Bischoff wouldn't have it any
other way, he wanted the cameras, so they couldn't come to an agreement, why
would McMahon not want the cameras there? Think about it?)
Kwaimi
Yeah, I can see how you like WCW since it is the same thing as the WWF in
the 80's.
T.J.#20 <thej...@globalserve.net> wrote in article
<6jtr01$61t$1...@titan.globalserve.net>...
JENS2MANY
2 short point to be made....... I remember one match in the WCW. It was Ric
Flair v Terry Funk. At the end of the match, Terry Funk put a plastic bag over
Flair's head and tied it. If everyone is SO DAMNED WORRIED about children
immitating the crotch chops, the middle fingers, or as our good friend Linda
Hunt mentioned, shooting lightning out of the finger and lighting people on
fire with it, I can think of far worse...
Also.....The WWF will fold if Owen leaves?? Don't get me wrong, I like Owen. I
like Owen because I route for the underdog. Face it. There is not a damned
thing they can do to make him draw heat. The fued with his brother was OK but
it went on too long, and in the end it just made him come accross whiney. Now
he's biting people's ears...Also, on that point. WCW sure got 3 big stars with
the Hart Foundation, huh.. Bulldog MIA, Neidhart MIA and Bret, "Its over and
nobody cares" Hart. Big loss for the WWF? Ratings have never been higher and
they're saving a bundle by not having to pay Bret's inflated salery
Kissing hands, and shaking babies.....
Bil
Bladerunner 3:16
If you like old men like Hogan, Savage, and the Warrior who were in the
WWF in the 80s then fine live in the past. But I as well as every WWF
fan like young talent so we will watch the WWF. Also old women. Say
Miss Elizbeth should be a spokes person for Geritol.
Jcbaldin
Mr T was in wrestlemania 2 not 1
Later retard
JENS2MANY
>Mr T was in wrestlemania 2 not 1
>
>Later retard
>
>
MR.T was in the MAIN EVENT of Wrestlemania 1!!!! He's even on the BOX!!! The
match was Piper/Orndorph v. Hogan/Mr. T. This match spawned from the infamous
Cyndi Lauper/Lou Albino fued.
Mr. T. WAS at WM2, he "boxed" Roddy Piper.
ferchristsakes, PLEASE get your facts straight before you post. And at the very
least, don't call someone a retard when posting misinformation.
Chris Casino
I'm certain you WCW fans of today watched the
WWF in 1985. Same thing as WCW 1998. You
guys hate the WWF because you fear change.
You fear change because change leads
to progress. The promotion making
progress (that's the WWF) is
the better promotion, and
that's because if you don't ever
do anything different, people will
get sick of you. The WWF is doing
different stuff, WCW is not. That's
why the WWF is better.
D~X Cactus~Jack
Eric Bischoff admitted that he got the idea for the nwo from Japan. He
admitted it when he was on Off The Record.
http://webhome.idirect.com/~jft/Filez/
Erik Shaw wrote in message <6jvumq$saa$1...@newsd-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
first of all your ass better call some body because wwf has the better
talent, story line's, and well everything. if it was not for the wwf the
wcw would not have any talent there today execpt for sting. and the
thing about terry funk... give me a break how old is hogan, piper, and
macho man.. those guy's are relic's. another thing is eric bitchoff or
adulph bitchoff as i like to call him, has not had an orginal idea since
he took a shit in the tolit and called it steve goldberg. now that guy
can't wrestle. and don't even say the nwo idea was his... wwf did that
along time ago with ric flair, and japan wrestling have been doing that
story line's for year's. so your ass better get your story's straight
and hit the fucking road jack. mcmahon would kick eric's ass from here
to etirnity... just look at the vin man, he is buff and bitchoff is what
115 pound's at best wet.
SORRY NOTHING FUNNY TO SAY!!!!!!!
FANBOY(ERIK)
MPeters
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK ASSHOLE. GET OFF THIS NEWSGROUP AND GO BACK
TO ALL YOU FAGGOT FRIENDS IN THE WCW NEWSGROUP!
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE
Phuong Tran
Obvioulsy you have not been paying attention.
First point this is sports entertainment not a sport if anyone actualy gave
a dam about wrestling ability then Goldberg would be jobbing to a luchadore
every saturday night. But he's not because people don't want wrestling they
want entertainment.
for example: if there was a Chris Beniot Vs. 2 cold scorpio match they would
be lucky if they could fill a school jim. On the orther hand if there was a
Steve Austin signing there would be people lined up around the corner. WCW
used to have the entertainment thing down but now they seemed to have lost
it. Their angles are going dry and people are turning for no reason. Nitro
gave us 2 hours of almost pure wreslting 2 weeks ago and they got squashed
by Raw.
Second point: Many wreslters who WCW put in the limelight are loosing apeal.
Sting, Bret Hart, Lex Luger, Curt Hennig, The Giant, Scott Hall, DDP, and
Hogan are not even close to what they used to be at their prime. Nash and
Savage are falling to this point as well, people just don't want to see them
anymore.
The new generation of wrestling fans seem to apeal to the more entertaining
wrestlers both in and out of the ring. People like Ric Flair, Mick Foley,
Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Chris Jericho, and Steve Austin . If you like
these guys or not you can't deny their massive talent in and out of the
ring. 4 of these men are legends and the other 2 will own the wrestling
world in a couple of years. How can any of these guys not draw heat? Take
the Rock he's never actualy won a match cleanly since winning the belt, in
fact Vince gave him the belt. So why is it that I consider him the best IC
champ of all time (yes even better than HBK) ?
Because he's so dam entertaining. Listen to his interviews they're classics
and his theme is the bomb. Although he's not a fan fav his crowd responce is
the largest in the WWF except for Austins. People may say he sucks but they
do it for a reason because they enjoy seeing the Rock. OK enough of my
ranting what does this all mean? Look at the big picture the WWF is throwing
these guys in the mainstream, while WCW keeps throwing Hogan and the rest
in are faces. WCW does have Jericho but he barely gets the airtime he
deserves and Ric Flair is in a legal battle with none other than WCW. So
WCW did not actualy get worse, it's more like the fans changed. Rather than
see the Outsiders the fans want the New Age Outlaws, they don't want Sting
anymore they want the 3:16 (I realy hope you know who I mean), they don't
want to see Hogan running his mouth they want HBK running his mouth, they
don't want to see Lex Luger not winning titles they want to see Dude Love
not winning titles, they don't say bite me they say suck it, its not too
sweet it's cause stone said so, and that is not 4 life thats the bottom
line!
Don't get me wrong the WWF has its bad sides to, (like a give a dam who
Kane's dad is) but in the end the WWF apeal to the new generation of
fans.Anyone else agree?
Ashley
I couldn't have said it better myself. Your post hit it right on the
head. I really love the second point. Congrats.
Ashley
<snip>
>Look at the big picture the WWF is throwing
>these guys in the mainstream, while WCW keeps throwing Hogan and the rest
>in are faces. WCW does have Jericho but he barely gets the airtime he
>deserves and Ric Flair is in a legal battle with none other than WCW. So
>WCW did not actualy get worse, it's more like the fans changed. Rather than
>see the Outsiders the fans want the New Age Outlaws, they don't want Sting
>anymore they want the 3:16 (I realy hope you know who I mean), they don't
>want to see Hogan running his mouth they want HBK running his mouth, they
>don't want to see Lex Luger not winning titles they want to see Dude Love
>not winning titles, they don't say bite me they say suck it, its not too
>sweet it's cause stone said so, and that is not 4 life thats the bottom
>line!
<snip>
Ashley
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/amorgan/
Jim Bartlette
The Joke #20,
Hey buddy, I got a question for ya. What is it exactly that you been
smokin' in that crack pipe of yours? It really bothers me when you
1980's holdovers attempt, in vain, to make some type of case for the
current mess that is WCW.
Lemme ask you something: If WCW and all of its "talent" is so kick ass,
as you say it is, why is it that the WWF has far fewer "talented"
wrestlers and is kicking WCW's ass in the ratings? I'll tell you why.
Sure, guys like Dean Melenko and Ultimo Dragon have more ability than
Kane and even Stone Cold. I'll give you that much. But I draw the line
there. The reason the WWF is better as a whole than WCW is because the
WWF is entertaining. Sure, the match content itself is not all that
impressive, but that is made up for in the kick ass storylines. The
Undertaker-Kane fued may be a bit comic book, but only a jack ass can
deny that Paul Bearer saying he scored with the Takers mom was a
priceless, funny, entertaining story.
Yeah, Malenko has more ability than Austin, but let's see the "man of
1,000 yawns" give an interview like Austin. Ability can take you so
far, but character will take you much farther.
A few quick points:
RAW's ratings have DOUBLED since the WWF "lost" Bret Hart. Think about
that. Half the ratings and 1.5 million in the hole, or twice the
ratings PLUS 1.5 million. Doesn't take a brain sugeon.
Please spare me the "WCW has much better wrestling than the WWF" line.
Did you SEE that god awful Hogan-Savage main event two weeks ago. Hogan
is 47 going on 60 and Savage is literally on his last leg. Meanwhile
the WWF had Austin and McMahon against the NOD. No wonder RAW kicked
Nitro's ass in the ratings that week.
Final point: the 80's wrestling you love so much wasn't that good. I
loved it when I was a kid, but the actual wrestling is much better
today, even if there is less of it. I'll take a Steve Blackman Vs.
D-LO Brown match from 98 anyday over a Hacksaw Duggan Vs. Hercules match
from 88 any day of the week. (by the way, how can a man of any
intellect bitch about how dumb the Kane-UT fued is when we were treated
to such "legendary" fueds as Hulk Hogan vs. Zeus in the "glory days" of
the WWF).
That's enough for now. I hope you enjoyed the education, boy.
P.S. In case nobody let you in on it...wrestling isn't a real sport.
The outcomes are predetermined. So whether or not Eddie Guerrero can do
a better frog splash than D-Lo Brown doesn't mean spit if in the greater
scheme of things.
"Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all
stocked up here!"
-Jack Nicholson
"As Good As It Gets"
JAMEL COLES
WCW is a piece of trayler trash.
JTC
(PEACE OUT)
Guy Patterson
Kry...@webtv.net
Kronus Max
Chris Casino wrote:
Having retirees Pat Patterson and Jerry Briscoe go in the ring against
Steve Austin is certainly a main event match.
Kronus Max
T.J.#20 wrote:
What can one say about a fed whose owner puts himself in the main event, who has
a couple of retired commissioners come out to wrestle in another main event
against their champion. Sounds like a federation going downhill to me.
Kronus Max
Jcbaldin wrote:
> Mr T was in wrestlemania 2 not 1
>
> Later retard
You don't know history. Mr T was the tag team partner of Hulk Hogan in
Wrestlemania I and boxed Roddy Piper in Wrestlemania 2.
Tehawk
On Tue, 26 May 1998 15:51:20 -0700, the infamous Kry...@webtv.net
mumbled:
>Hey TJ,
>
> In case you've been under a rock, the wcw, Auntie EricA's crew are
>the geriatric ones
So what do you call Pat Patterson and Jerry Briscoe? Rookies?
Stoned Cold Ben Sturgess
>The problem with the WWF is that they have to go back to the
> basics, they should go back and remember aside from all this drama and
> masquerade, and go back to what the WWF really is supposed to be,
which is
> wrestling. There is just not enough wrestling anymore.
have you seen shotgun?? that is all wrestling and no crap, allthough
they do show highlights of stone cold and mcmahon shouting at each
other.........
--
Signed:
Pablo the hitman
Ryan Stiers
Well let me clear up a few things son...WCW sucks for these reasons:
1. Long boring story lines. (NWO has gone on way too long). At least the
WWF's stories are fresh and new.
2. The comment about people getting arrested on WWF...What about the
supposed hit and run by Hogan's Dodge Viper on the Macho Man??? And how
about the fines for powerbombs???? Outlawing a wrestling move (the
stupidest thing I have ever heard of!
3. You say Terry Funk is too old because he is 53??? At least Funk
wrestling workrate is top-notch. He still wrestles alot. How about your
WCW??? Jeez, Hogan and Flair and the Macho Man and a few others must be
really, really close to Funk's age and they don't wreslte very much
(especially Hogan, what does he wreslte now?? About 2 times a year???)
4. How about almost every big match in WCW??? Almost every big match is
interrupted by other members of NWO, or WolfPack or WCW and nothing ever
gets decided and there is almost never a clean win!!!
TJ says that MCMahon is scared of Bishoff because McMahon didn't want
cameras. The reason McMahon didn't want cameras was because he wasn't
going to help out WCW get more ratings by participating in a WCW Pay Per
View.
TJ goes on to say that since Bret Hart left, he is exclusively watches WCW
now but he goes on to say that he watched the WWF's Wrestlemania. I think
he is in denial and needs to watch WWF for real entertainment. If WWF is
going down like TJ says....then why is the WWF winning in the ratings
now...The fact is that no wrestling organization is going to go away since
they will probably always be enough people to watch either one.
If you have any comments about what I wrote...you can email me or post the
message on the board...Thanx.
r...@mnsi.net
Kronus Max <kron...@usa.net> wrote in article
<6km90i$9...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> T.J.#20 wrote:
>
> > WCW Rules! What's with all the stupidity behind the WWF now. I used
to
> > like WWF back in the 80's, what happened? It seems that WWF has very
little
> > to do with wrestling nowadays. All it is about is dead people coming
to
> > life (the whole retarded Kane and Undertaker feud which is really
pathetic,
> > I can't even believe they're still going on with it), people with
> > guns(Pillman), cops arresting people, giving the finger and grabbing
> > crouches. The problem with the WWF is that they have to go back to the
> > basics, they should go back and remember aside from all this drama and
> > masquerade, and go back to what the WWF really is supposed to be, which
is
Pablo (Ben Sturgess)
>I've
> ever seen. Vince should stop getting involved so much, nobody likes
>him,
> everybody's sick of seeing him, but he keeps getting involved, like
the
> people are there to see him.
What was wrong with wm14? Vince didnt get involved in that.........
>but there are more superstar calibre wrestlers in
>the
> WCW
SCSA mick foley terry funk the outlaws HHH HBK the rock UT midnight
express vader x-pac too much godwinns quebecers scorpio............
isnt that enough???
hogan was good in his time but now hes old...... he shouldve retired
whist we still thought of him as great......
Youre ass better call somebody!