Our company needs help with openwrt

[ps2chiper]

Hello, I work for a satellite receiver company. I am the only linux
user in the entire company and I am going mad trying to explain what
linux is to chinese people. I dont want to turn the board into a job
center, so im sorry if this post upsets anyone. But I really need help
finding someone more experienced with openwrt then me. There is a
program for linux that is closed source called RQ-SSSP. It is a client
for satellite receivers to connect them to the internet for card
sharing by the rs232 port. The developer had released a Mips big edian
and little edian of the software. the requirements are just it needs
to be running on openwrt or dd-wrt under kernel 2.6. the developer of
that software has done very little testing on the wrt platform but has
done extensive on regular linux. Also it would be great if the person
can write an interface on openwrt for configuration of the program. I
will compensate you if you are the right person for this job.
Jason

Links
http://openwrt.org/

http://www.rq-stuff.com/forums/

[DNA24]

sounds like a part time job, I think Yang Cheng and Andrew in this
Group can help you.
We have also have a group at Linkedin, but I'm not sure the members in
that group can be in Shenzhen.
If you have Linkedin, maybe you could post this job there:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=1086697&trk=anet_ug_hm

[ps2chiper]

Thank you for your suggestion I am already a member there and I will
post the same thing like you suggested. It is time urgent project that
we need done fast. But I figured most people here already have a job
so they wouldnt be interested in a full time job. if any body would
like a full time job in the baoan area. I will see what we can work
out for you. Also if anybody is interested to learn about satellite tv
or digital tv, I can teach you what i know.

[ps2chiper]

Well I contacted both Andrew and Yang Cheng but have not got a reply.
Does anybody know where they are?

[DNA24]

I'm sorry for a mistake, Not Andrew, It's Anders Ma.

And Yang Cheng is his nickname's pinyin. His nickname in this group
displays "杨城".

[Anders Ma]

Hi Guy

I am Anders Ma. Sorry about I am not familiar with Openwrt, but my
friend jyhlnm has some experiences with Openwrt, I saw he do some
porting work on Openwrt, and his email is jyh...@gmail.com, you can
contact him, thanks!

Regards
Anders

2009/10/30 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

--
Regards
Anders

[ps2chiper]

What do you do with linux mr. anders? I was told you are good at
embedded linux?

On Oct 30, 1:38 pm, Anders Ma <xuejiao...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guy
>
> I am  Anders Ma. Sorry about I am not familiar with Openwrt, but my
> friend jyhlnm has some experiences with Openwrt, I saw he do some
> porting work on Openwrt, and his email is jyh...@gmail.com, you can
> contact him, thanks!
>
> Regards
> Anders
>

> 2009/10/30 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:

[Shawn]

hi Jason,
    Post this info on openWRT devel mailinglist aint a bad idea:
https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel

2009/10/28 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>

--
GNU powered it...
GPL protect it...
God blessing it...

regards
HFG--Shawn the R0ck

[ps2chiper]

Thanks i will try that out. but i was hoping to find someone locally.
if anybody wants to get involved maybe we can work it out.

On Oct 31, 11:24 am, Shawn <cit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi Jason,
>     Post this info on openWRT devel mailinglist aint a bad idea:https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>

> 2009/10/28 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>

[杨城]

我的英文会看不会写，如果只是要建立环境，我来完成吧。那位兄弟帮忙给做一下翻译吧。

杨城

[杨城]

On 10月31日, 下午1时47分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[DNA24]

Jason

Yang Cheng said he could help to build firmware (environment) from
kernel.

And he said he could read English but not write.

[DNA24]

> Yang Cheng said he could help to build firmware (environment) from
> kernel.

build firmware (environment) from kernel by openwrt

[Adam]

I know a little about openwrt. One of our products is built on
it. Unfortunately, I am not immediately available.

However, according to your mail, what you'd like to do should not be a
problem for linux hackers. If you have mips cross-toolchain from your
vendor
in hand, why not have a try to build openwrt by yourself? A simple
script
for building openwrt is included in the src. You may need some tweaks
to
integrate it to your makesystem.

I suppose you could get other 3rd-party source code from the official
site
of openwrt to build your GUI. Common Web-base GUIs are available. I
can't remember the details. Take a look at the HP of openwrt.

Regards,
--
Adam

[ps2chiper]

I dont know were you live but this is china. The vendor doesnt know
the first thing about linux for the routers. I had to supply my own
redboot to them so they can upgrade the ram and rom chips in them. It
boggles my mind why any company would pay licensing fees for
proprietary software when linux is almost free for business. I blame
the chinese schools. Also if you have the tool chains for the ar2317
available to cross compile for it. That would save me alot of effort
for rq-sssp.

[Adam]

On 11月3日, 上午4时38分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I dont know were you live but this is china. The vendor doesnt know
> the first thing about linux for the routers. I had to supply my own
> redboot to them so they can upgrade the ram and rom chips in them. It
> boggles my mind why any company would pay licensing fees for
> proprietary software when linux is almost free for business. I blame
> the chinese schools. Also if you have the tool chains for the ar2317
> available to cross compile for it. That would save me alot of effort
> for rq-sssp.

Take a look at this:
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=9180

I also got quite some information about ar2317 + openwrt by simply
googling. Please just have a try.

Regards,
--
Adam

[Adam]

On 11月3日, 上午4时38分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont know were you live but this is china. The vendor doesnt know
> the first thing about linux for the routers. I had to supply my own
> redboot to them so they can upgrade the ram and rom chips in them. It
> boggles my mind why any company would pay licensing fees for
> proprietary software when linux is almost free for business. I blame
> the chinese schools. Also if you have the tool chains for the ar2317
> available to cross compile for it. That would save me alot of effort
> for rq-sssp.
>

All right. I think there may be misunderstanding on the build
procedure of openwrt. Check out
http://downloads.openwrt.org/docs/buildroot-documentation.html

for details. There is a buildroot which is based on uClibc. It could
help
you to easily generated both a cross-complication *toolchain* and a
root
filesystem for your device. See, NO MORE EXTRA toolchain is even
needed in
this case. But, as you mentioned you have already getten a big/little
endian
device, I guess there may be some per-built cross-toolchian from your
device
vendor as a component of your hardware solution. That's the same
situation
when we refer to your own device.

The education problem you complained goes out of scope of this
question. But, as your know, nobody could get it changed at this
moment
though few of us get satisfy with it. The radical change may go in a
quiet
way. It just takes time, may be much.

License is not concerned. Let's forcus on the tech itself.

Regards,
--
Adam

[ps2chiper]

Its not about building openwrt. its about building a binary file that
has nothing to do with openwrt to run on openwrt.

On Nov 3, 3:41 pm, Adam <jiang.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11月3日, 上午4时38分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I dont know were you live but this is china. The vendor doesnt know
> > the first thing about linux for the routers. I had to supply my own
> > redboot to them so they can upgrade the ram and rom chips in them. It
> > boggles my mind why any company would pay licensing fees for
> > proprietary software when linux is almost free for business. I blame
> > the chinese schools. Also if you have the tool chains for the ar2317
> > available to cross compile for it. That would save me alot of effort
> > for rq-sssp.
>
> All right. I think there may be misunderstanding on the build

> procedure of openwrt. Check outhttp://downloads.openwrt.org/docs/buildroot-documentation.html

[Adam]

On 11月3日, 下午7时22分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its not about building openwrt. its about building a binary file that
> has nothing to do with openwrt to run on openwrt.

I get your point finally.

Two tasks are there.
1. port RQ-SSSP from a MIPS source to openwrt;
2. write an inferface for the application(will be a plus).

If the requirement is specified and no more IP problem, could it be
done offshore. :-) Just a joke. However, I think you can find someone
local to help you. Shenzhen is a heaven for small business.

BTW, I have great interesting on satellite broadcasting related
business in China. As you may know, such devices got boosted in recent
2 years. However, SARFT accepted the encrypt receiver as the *final*
policy this Oct. This may cause the marketing share varies in 2010- a
good chance for your company. But, all about this get off the
topic.:-)

Anyway, good luck for you.

[DNA24]

Adam, your writing English is pretty good :-)

[ps2chiper]

The developer has released a closed source linux mips version that was
built for the dreambox 800, but it gets a syntax error when it is ran
on the atheros chipset. So the atheros mips is too different from the
regular mips to work. so his source code needs to be cross compiled or
compiled inside the router to work for atheros. If your ever in
shenzhen I can show you the satellite receiver factory and you can
explain to the windows chinese that work their why linux is so
important.

[Adam]

On 11月5日, 上午2时03分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The developer has released a closed source linux mips version that was
> built for the dreambox 800, but it gets a syntax error when it is ran
> on the atheros chipset. So the atheros mips is too different from the
> regular mips to work. so his source code needs to be cross compiled or
> compiled inside the router to work for atheros.

OK. So you have gotten the source code, haven't you? No matter that is
open or close, if you get the source, then everything will be fine. I
am not an experienced engineer on porting tasks, however, I do really
have some ideas on this kind of development. May you have a try?
0. try to compile the source code and try hard to fix compilation
errors. Most of those will happened to
0.1 glibc -> uclibc compatibility problems;
0.2 header file missing;
0.2 linked in libraries missing;
1. analyze the working version of binaries, if you can get them, by
'readelf', 'ldd' or such binary tools. Please focus on shared objects
and libraries which you need to import into you projects;
2. adjust your makesystem to ensure recomplilation goes smoothly;
3. repeat 0-2 until everything done well.

> If your ever in
> shenzhen I can show you the satellite receiver factory and you can
> explain to the windows chinese that work their why linux is so
> important.
>

Actually, I'd like to do that. :-) I'll be back to Shenzhen for my
wedding 2 weeks later. It will be my pleasure if you could guide me to
your factory.

Best regards,
--
Adam

[Adam]

On 11月5日, 上午1时02分, DNA24 <slevin....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adam, your writing English is pretty good :-)

Thanks, DNA24. :-)

[ps2chiper]

I don't have the source code as it is closed source. I most likely
never will have it either. The only thing i can do is supply the
proper toolchains to the owner of the code and hope he compiles it for
more architectures.

[ps2chiper]

and isnt the meeting this sunday?

[DNA24]

> and isnt the meeting this sunday?
>

No,it's next sunday.

[Adam]

On 11月6日, 下午3时41分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have the source code as it is closed source. I most likely
> never will have it either. The only thing i can do is supply the
> proper toolchains to the owner of the code and hope he compiles it for
> more architectures.
>

OK. Then, please pray. And Don't make question to the god anymore. You
know, which one who has the source code, he is the god himself.

[Adam]

On 11月6日, 下午3时41分, ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have the source code as it is closed source. I most likely
> never will have it either. The only thing i can do is supply the
> proper toolchains to the owner of the code and hope he compiles it for
> more architectures.

En~, for the toolchain, you may use what you get from the buildroot of
openwrt. Copy the whole suite on which your built your openwrt to your
close software vendor, including the header files and libraries.

If your have NOT source code in your hand, to hire a people for these
tasks is not a good idea. Praying and complainant would be the best
choice to push them. Of course, the actual effect on these all depend
on how much money you paid.

--
Adam

[Zhang Le]

2009/11/6 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

>
> and isnt the meeting this sunday?

This month's second sunday seems to be too early.
Let's do it next week, Nov 15.
;)

--
Zhang Le, Robert
Gentoo/Loongson(龙芯) Developer
http://zhangle.is-a-geek.org

[ps2chiper]

Well I have been working with the binaries and got them working. but
we need to build a user interface for the customer to modify the
config files outside of telnet. I should make a google code page to
post the documents.

On Nov 7, 6:32 pm, Zhang Le <robert.zhan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/6 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:

[ps2chiper]

So where is the meeting this sunday?

[Yuan Yijun]

2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> So where is the meeting this sunday?
>
>

We have an issue to meet at the usual place. One possible alternative
is Shenzhen Book City. We may pick a starbucks. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks!

--
bbbush ^_^

[ps2chiper]

What is the usual place.

On Nov 11, 2:14 pm, Yuan Yijun <yuan.yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:

[ps2chiper]

Also I will bring my boss with me. I hope someone can teach him the
importance of linux.

[Yuan Yijun]

2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

>
> What is the usual place.
>

Nanshan Experimental School, Dingtai branch. However this month's LUG
meeting will not be there, because of the H5N1. Do you have an office
meeting room?

Thanks!

--
bbbush ^_^

[ps2chiper]

yea its a factory. maybe it can hold 15 to 20 people.

On Nov 11, 3:08 pm, Yuan Yijun <yuan.yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>

[Yuan Yijun]

2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

>
> yea its a factory. maybe it can hold 15 to 20 people.
>

Hi,

I'm afraid I may not join the party on Sunday, however you can contact
Robert Zhang, as well as those ones that would help you on your case,
to meet at your company. Tell them what they need to prepare in
advance, and provide necessary traffic information. It would be better
if you can provide a map in image or google map form. Is it OK?

--
bbbush ^_^

[ps2chiper]

Ok. but how many people would be coming? I need to ask permission
after I know the amount of people. the factory is in baoan in tao yuan
ju.

On Nov 11, 4:27 pm, Yuan Yijun <yuan.yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>

[ps2chiper]

I asked him and he said maybe next time. but he wants to meet everyone
first before they can come to his factory.

[Zhang Le]

2009/11/11 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

>
> I asked him and he said maybe next time. but he wants to meet everyone
> first before they can come to his factory.

Fair enough.

I will visit Book City tonight to check if the place is big enough.

Also I will check if Splendid Garden, where I am living in, has public
conf room.

I think at the very least we can go to a Starbucks as we have done before.

[Yuan Yijun]

2009/11/11 Zhang Le <robert....@gmail.com>:

>
>
> Fair enough.
>
> I will visit Book City tonight to check if the place is big enough.
>

Call me when you've arrived, I'll be at Shenzhen Lib.

--
bbbush ^_^

[ps2chiper]

Any news on the location?

On Nov 11, 5:29 pm, Yuan Yijun <yuan.yi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/11 Zhang Le <robert.zhan...@gmail.com>:

[Zhang Le]

Yes, I went to Book City last night.
I think the place is good.
There are usually many events, like English corner.
Just hope when we get there, there is still room available, hehe.
If there is no room, we can find a cafe nearby.

The only thing missing is a projector.
But since it seems that we don't have many people this time, we could
just gather around our speaker.
We should act early in order to find a more decent place next time.

We can meet at Shaoniangong Station of Shenzhen Metro Line 4.
Then we head to Book City.

2009/11/12 ps2chiper <ps2c...@gmail.com>:

--

[ps2chiper]

Ok. what time shall we meet?

On Nov 12, 9:47 pm, Zhang Le <robert.zhan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I went to Book City last night.
> I think the place is good.
> There are usually many events, like English corner.
> Just hope when we get there, there is still room available, hehe.
> If there is no room, we can find a cafe nearby.
>
> The only thing missing is a projector.
> But since it seems that we don't have many people this time, we could
> just gather around our speaker.
> We should act early in order to find a more decent place next time.
>
> We can meet at Shaoniangong Station of Shenzhen Metro Line 4.
> Then we head to Book City.
>

> 2009/11/12 ps2chiper <ps2chi...@gmail.com>:

[DNA24]

> Ok. what time shall we meet?
>

This Sunday 15/11, Afternoon 2:00

[ps2chiper]

Ok. I could use the help of someone experienced with geda to help make
a simple ttl to rs232 adapter. i have some photos of what i had in
mind.
Please contact me if you are interested and i will email them to you.