binderfs interferes with syzkaller?

19 views
Skip to first unread message

Dmitry Vyukov

unread,
Jan 25, 2020, 12:50:02 PM1/25/20
to Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
Hi binder maintainers,

It seems that something has happened and now syzbot has 0 coverage in
drivers/android/binder.c:
https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html
It covered at least something there before as it found some bugs in binder code.
I _suspect_ it may be related to introduction binderfs, but it's
purely based on the fact that binderfs changed lots of things there.
And I see it claims to be backward compatible.

syzkaller strategy to reach binder devices is to use
CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES to create a bunch of binderN devices (to
give each test process a private one):
https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/dashboard/config/upstream-kasan.config#L5671

Then it knows how to open these /dev/binderN devices:
https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/dev_binder.txt#L22
and do stuff with them.

Did these devices disappear or something?

Dmitry Vyukov

unread,
Jan 25, 2020, 1:13:16 PM1/25/20
to Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
Oh, I see, it's backwards compatible if it's not enabled, right?

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDERFS) &&
strcmp(binder_devices_param, "") != 0) {
/*
* Copy the module_parameter string, because we don't want to
* tokenize it in-place.
*/
device_names = kstrdup(binder_devices_param, GFP_KERNEL);
if (!device_names) {
ret = -ENOMEM;
goto err_alloc_device_names_failed;
}

device_tmp = device_names;
while ((device_name = strsep(&device_tmp, ","))) {
ret = init_binder_device(device_name);
if (ret)
goto err_init_binder_device_failed;
}
}

And we enabled it because, well, enabling things generally gives more
coverage. I guess I will disable CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDERFS for now to
restore coverage in the binder itself.

Greg Kroah-Hartman

unread,
Jan 26, 2020, 3:55:39 AM1/26/20
to Dmitry Vyukov, Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 06:49:49PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> Hi binder maintainers,
>
> It seems that something has happened and now syzbot has 0 coverage in
> drivers/android/binder.c:
> https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html
> It covered at least something there before as it found some bugs in binder code.
> I _suspect_ it may be related to introduction binderfs, but it's
> purely based on the fact that binderfs changed lots of things there.
> And I see it claims to be backward compatible.

It is backwards compatible if you mount binderfs, right?

> syzkaller strategy to reach binder devices is to use
> CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES to create a bunch of binderN devices (to
> give each test process a private one):
> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/dashboard/config/upstream-kasan.config#L5671
>
> Then it knows how to open these /dev/binderN devices:
> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/dev_binder.txt#L22
> and do stuff with them.
>
> Did these devices disappear or something?

Try mounting binderfs and then you should be able to see them all.

thanks,

greg k-h

Todd Kjos

unread,
Jan 27, 2020, 11:48:03 AM1/27/20
to Greg Kroah-Hartman, Dmitry Vyukov, Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:55 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gre...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 06:49:49PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > Hi binder maintainers,
> >
> > It seems that something has happened and now syzbot has 0 coverage in
> > drivers/android/binder.c:
> > https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html
> > It covered at least something there before as it found some bugs in binder code.
> > I _suspect_ it may be related to introduction binderfs, but it's
> > purely based on the fact that binderfs changed lots of things there.
> > And I see it claims to be backward compatible.
>
> It is backwards compatible if you mount binderfs, right?

If binderfs is enabled and binderfs is mounted, then it's compatible
except that the path to be opened is under the binderfs mount point
instead of /dev/binderX.

Dmitry Vyukov

unread,
Jan 27, 2020, 12:11:16 PM1/27/20
to Christian Brauner, Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:51 AM Christian Brauner
<christia...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 07:13:03PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 6:49 PM Dmitry Vyukov <dvy...@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi binder maintainers,
> > >
> > > It seems that something has happened and now syzbot has 0 coverage in
> > > drivers/android/binder.c:
> > > https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html
> > > It covered at least something there before as it found some bugs in binder code.
> > > I _suspect_ it may be related to introduction binderfs, but it's
> > > purely based on the fact that binderfs changed lots of things there.
> > > And I see it claims to be backward compatible.
> > >
> > > syzkaller strategy to reach binder devices is to use
> > > CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES to create a bunch of binderN devices (to
> > > give each test process a private one):
> > > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/dashboard/config/upstream-kasan.config#L5671
> > >
> > > Then it knows how to open these /dev/binderN devices:
> > > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/dev_binder.txt#L22
> > > and do stuff with them.
> > >
> > > Did these devices disappear or something?
> >
> > Oh, I see, it's backwards compatible if it's not enabled, right?
>
> It's backwards compatible.
> Let me give a little more detail. The legacy binder interface would
> create all devices listed in the module parameter
> CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES. These devices were created using
> misc_register(&binder_device->miscdev);
> in the host's devtmpfs mount.
> If binderfs is enabled these devices are now created in the binderfs
> instance instead.
> For full backwards compatibility with old Android versions symlinks (or
> bind mounts) can be provided in the host's devtmpfs. This is what I
> recommended a few months ago.
>
> > And we enabled it because, well, enabling things generally gives more
> > coverage. I guess I will disable CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDERFS for now to
>
> I would at least try to test both somehow. It's likely that binderfs
> will replace legacy binder devices so if we could keep testing it
> somehow that would be great.
>
> > restore coverage in the binder itself.
>
> I'm not completely sure what you mean here. The binder IPC codepaths are
> nearly the same. The difference is mostly in how the device information
> is cast out before actual binder-ipc operations take place.
> In any case, testing both would obviously be preferred but binderfs
> strikes me as more worthy of testing.

I've reverted CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDERFS to "is not set" for now as the
easiest option. We've got 35% coverage of binder.c again.

By "restore coverage" I meant that even if the IPC codepaths are
nearly the same tests knew to open /dev/binderN and these disappeared,
so no test could open any binder device and get any coverage in binder
code.

If anybody wants to try to test both, you are very welcome ;)
If you are hinting that I should do it, a single person can't test all
2000 subsystems in kernel, and testing each of them requires quite
some domain expertise. This really requires involvement of developers
of the code. I am sure there is lots to improve in the IPC codepaths
as well.

Eric W. Biederman

unread,
Jan 28, 2020, 8:47:52 AM1/28/20
to Christian Brauner, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Dmitry Vyukov, Christian Brauner, Hridya Valsaraju, Arve Hjønnevåg, Todd Kjos, Martijn Coenen, Joel Fernandes, open list:ANDROID DRIVERS, LKML, syzkaller
Christian Brauner <christia...@ubuntu.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 06:49:49PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>> > Hi binder maintainers,
>> >
>> > It seems that something has happened and now syzbot has 0 coverage in
>> > drivers/android/binder.c:
>> > https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html
>> > It covered at least something there before as it found some bugs in binder code.
>> > I _suspect_ it may be related to introduction binderfs, but it's
>> > purely based on the fact that binderfs changed lots of things there.
>> > And I see it claims to be backward compatible.
>>
>> It is backwards compatible if you mount binderfs, right?
>
> Yes, it is backwards compatible. The devices that would usually be
> created in devtmpfs are now created in binderfs. The core
> binder-codepaths are the same.

Any chance you can add code to the binderfs case to automatically
create the symlinks to the standard mount location in devtmpfs?

That way existing userspace might not need to care how the kernel is
configured.

Eric

Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages