Re: System security

[Janet Singer]

The benefit of Jack’s proposed reframing is that ‘prevention of participation’ (aka protection of assets) and ‘support for interoperability/collaboration’ could be considered and developed as special cases of the same general structure.

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:39 PM, paul cleary <clear...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I think there’s little to be gained from semantics. That former is fine
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 13 Mar BE 2561, at 00:34, Jack Ring <jri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> After reflecting on a quick review of NIST 800-160 and related documents it occurred to me that we could be more successful at system security, resilience, engineering, science, etc. if our purpose, instead of ‘protection of assets’ was ‘prevention of participation.’
>> Worth considering?
>> Jack Ring

[joseph simpson]

A central question associated with the context of interest:

  Is non-participation an asset?

Take care, be good to yourself and have fun,

Joe

[Janet Singer]

Glad you asked for clarification – I had just taken a guess!

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:55 PM, John Brtis <jbr...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Hi all -
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> I’m still catching up after being away on vacation.
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> The phrase “prevention of participation” doesn’t mean anything to me, but everyone else seems to understand it. (Maybe it’s from the high altitudes I was at and lack of oxygen.)
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> Could someone send me a one paragraph explanation of what this means and it’s context? Perhaps even a complete sentence would do.
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> Thanks.
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> - John
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Jack Ring <jri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> prevention of participation
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[joseph simpson]

Janet:

In our view an "asset" is anything that has value.

If controlling access to a given resource adds value, then the "control of access" is an asset that may need protection.

In this case, "controlling access" and "prevention of participation" are interchangeable.

Take care, be good to yourself and have fun,

Joe

 

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