Former Facebook exec on ripping apart society
Martin Munthe
Alexander Bard
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David Fuller
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I argue the ideology is already there, some say it is about equality of man, some say it is about saving the planet, some say that it is about equality among sexes.
That is why I stressed the point of the generational shift of purchase strength. And being somewhat conspiratorial I think that the forces that decides whom get the purchasing powers by doing the calcs on where spendings end up have done this because they have lost power over the opinion of the young.
Sounds strange? Well when I was 18 and did my college equivalent studies in marketing they told me that the "young men" where a lost "focus group". That is no one knew how to reach them or control them. They were outside of the advertisement field.
And if we believe that we have had targeted efforts to control public opinions by means of propaganda (I sure hope you are with me here and don't write me off as a nut this early) we can clearly distinguish the inherent rational of the governmental managing system to dis-empower the people outside of surveillance and control.
And the same goes for anarchists, some sort of self sustaining veganism, separatist collectivists etc.
All of these kind of logical constellations of solving the problem of intrahuman interactions become "enemies" of the controlling rationality of "the system".
Now I do not distress but rather see the increasing pressure of social media, with fabrications, lies and propaganda as a means of forcibly imposing a need for the methods yogis imposed on students to discern truth. Just as second world war posters forced a healthy skepticism of the meaning of the symbolism upon the general man.
So I am with the syntheist idea of salvation true technology, but I am anti-positioning it, as the very thing which will show how we have have to cast of un-truth, and the current formation of perception to be able to learn that idealized "truth". The increased capacity of deception will hone our senses for "reality" and propel the bio-logical to reach ahead of the implementation of technology, and urge us to use techne for improvement instead.
Some reflections
/Joakim
December 27, 2017 8:02 AM, "Alexander Bard" <bardi...@gmail.com> wrotye:
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I missed part of the argument there.
The dis-empowerment due to the loss of control of these younger generations are something we need to see as part of the problem with the negative aspects of social media.
SJW's are an reaction to the dis-empowerment of the young. Instead of healthy competition one sees gang constellations, group identities etc.
It is fully rational under the logic's ruling self sustaining systems.
Alexander Bard
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Best Alexander trust you are not the first to point that out. And I am somewhat aware of the problem but usually fall into that habit again.
But I do believe there is a common ground for discussing the problems that's been aired here. Those that JP and CP raise, with SJW and identity politics. Those that the former Facebook exec raises. But to see that we need to have a real broad view of both individual and systemic.
With techne and technology I pointed towards Heideggers essay on technology which I think is a pre-cursory exploration of what increased technological tools will do to our perceptions etc.
The thing is that new technology have different properties depending on you over all social status. The more currency you have available to distribute the more you are a target for advertisement/security/development whereas the less currency you have make you the target for control/distraction/disruption.
And when you take a collective view on these individual relations towards the "new technology" it creates a rationality for group adherent behaviors.
The biggest impact we seen by this is probably how the table of propaganda shifted to smaller actors being able to get big impact and just a general flooding with "fake" news.
So to point at generational differences in the west is also to point at a structure in the whole world.
If technology is only there to hinder you, control you, manipulate you - then what will you relation to it be? You have to stay away from it or control it, i:e be a hacker.
If you view media as something that misrepresents your little cliche, what will you use your possibility to partake in media creation for? You promote identity politics, try to create mob mentality and division among groups etc.
So recipe becomes to not use technology in a way that makes enemies out of some of the targets of the technology. That is if we want to have a shared worldview through and by it.
But it will always be there, and humans will always develop in a way that is a kind of arms race. Deception gets more realistic and humans become more skeptical etc.
To round this off, I just throw in a recommendation to read Heidegger on "The Question Concerning Technology".
Happy new year to you all
Joakim
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