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From: Steven Moyer <nodesn...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM
Subject: Leadership is essential
To: Emily Peyton <emilype...@gmail.com>
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Emily and friends,

I disagree with the assertion that "WE DO NOT NEED LEADERS." We always have leaders and we always follow leaders. It's a fact, not an opinion. The questions which are relevant:

1. Do you know who your leaders are?

2. Did you CHOOSE your leaders?

3. Are they GOOD leaders or EVIL leaders?

Hitler was a leader. So was JFK and MLK. Bill McKibbon is a leader too.

We need to identify our GOOD leaders so we CAN follow them. If we are constantly paying attention to the evil leaders we lack the mental bandwidth to even seek the good ones.

We need a new political system so we can identify the GOOD leaders quicker and easier than we do now. Ever hear of Dane Wiggington? I rest my case.

Blessings!

Steve Moyer

http://stevemoyer.us

On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Emily Peyton <emilype...@gmail.com> wrote:

WoMen / FeMale appears for the inclusion and empasis on either gender simultaneously through the use of capitalization, everyone is used to 'men' and other terms of patriarchy that simply leave out women, this term WoMen is what should be substituted as written with capitolization wherever men,man etc is currently used, FeMales to designate all sexes. I have included noted feminists Denise Ward and Steve Moyer in our discussion, I'd like to see an equal number of invites so we have a FeMale balance.
Does this help you Tom? Best wishes

On Nov 5, 2016 4:33 PM, "tom finnell" <tom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the uninitiated, kindly define these terms.

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Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Impeachment of Obama RE: A Vote For Hillary is a Vote for Thermonuclear War

END the entire paradigm of "leadership" for inherent in leadership is 'followers' and sheople, instead I hope to encourage collaborativeness, to such a degree that collaboratism could be it's description, it's label, to stand up to capitalism, communism, and socialism, while of course none of these happen in fact for the problems of imbalance maintained by a patriarchy and a separate and more powerful control mechanism through currency issuance.

I do not believe in leadership, in stardom for leaders, instead, that we, without claim to fame inspire each and every person we can to lead their own destiny onto a happier path in a collaborative way. WE DO NOT NEED LEADERS, we need courage, imagination, and resolve to undo the powers that thieve.

WoMen, and FeMale participation must be completely in balance, it is currently incomplete wherever Males outnumber or outspeak FeMales, and Men dominate WoMen.

If there is one in this group that does not agree with me, I do not need to argue, I will instead leave you to your silliness. For Males to dominate without FeMales is not good enough, and every effort undertaken to renew a Male dominated paradigm, even an effort to bring peace, will not ever bring peace without the FeMale balance.

Is there any person here who disagrees?

On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 2:12 PM, <br...@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

Dear Professor Boyle and Friends,

Thank you for this note Francis!

My intention is to contact Rep. Peter Welch on this, to which I invite my fellow Vermonters here to do the same, potentially in some sort of coordination,

or confirmation of people sending the message.

There are some on the list here who well understand, for they were leaders in the call for the impeachment of Bush/Cheney, to which the tragedy is

that Rep. Welch unfortunately chose the course of the Democratic Party, in protecting Bush, and thus creating the conditions for Obama to become

a terrible President, because he inherited a dictatorship unoppossed....

Yes this is an invitatation for the emergence of real responsible leadership and leaders, to come to the fore, as peace, the prospects of Peace, demand it.

This also serves as the relevant check upon either a Trump or Clinton presidency.

Bruce Marshall

Rochester, Vermont

802 767-6079

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 17:48:27 +0000, "Boyle, Francis A" <fbo...@illinois.edu> wrote:

I agree with you on that. This week I already started working with some people to put in a Bill of Impeachment against Obama as soon as Congress reconvenes one week after the election. We need to send a shot across his bow. He could start World War III anytime between now and Inauguration Day. We need one Member of the US House of Representatives to put in that Bill of Impeachment immediately. So speak to your own Member of Congress and if he or she is willing to do so, have him or her contact me and I will get to work on drawing up that Bill of Impeachment against Obama. That will keep him pretty busy between now and Inauguration Day and hopefully too busy to start World War III. Fab

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The Gonzalez Resolution to Impeach George Bush

Congressional Record, Jan. 16, 1991, at H520-21.

RESOLUTION OF IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House,

the gentleman from Texas [Mr. GONZALEZ] is recognized for 60 minutes.

Mr. GONZALEZ, Madam Speaker, it is with great sadness, and yet with equally

great, if not greater, conviction, that I introduce today a resolution of

impeachment of President Bush. It is known as House Resolution 34, and I

will provide this resolution as introduced to be appended at the end of my

remarks today.

At a time when our Nation is deeply divided over the question of

war, we find ourselves on the brink of a world war of such magnitude that

our minds cannot fully comprehend the destruction that is about to be

leveled. The position we are in is a direct result of the actions of one

man and the reactions of another. The Iraqi people are as opposed to war as

are the American people. The difference is that the Iraqi people have no

choice but to support their country's leader, but the American people not

only have the right to oppose and speak out in disagreement with the

President, but they have the responsibility to do so if our democracy is to

be preserved. Today I exercise this constitutional right and responsibility

to speak out in opposition to war in the Middle East and in support of

removal of our Nation's Chief Executive.

When I took the oath of office earlier this month, as I had

numerous times before, I swore to uphold the Constitution. The President's

oath was the same, to uphold the Constitution of the United States. We did

not pledge an oath of allegiance to the President but to the Constitution,

which is the highest law of the land. The Constitution provides for removal

of the President when he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors,

including violations of the principles of the Constitution. President Bush

has violated these principles.

My resolution has five articles of impeachment. First, the

President has violated the equal protection clause of the Constitution. Our

soldiers in the Middle East are overwhelmingly poor white, black, and

Mexican-American or Hispanic-American. They may be volunteers technically,

but their voluntarism is based on the coercion of a system that has denied

viable opportunities to these classes of our citizens. Under the

Constitution, all classes of citizens are guaranteed equal protection, and

calling on the poor and the minorities to fight a war for oil to preserve

the lifestyles of the wealthy is a denial of the rights of these soldiers.

Let me add that since 1981 we have suffered the Reagan-Bush and

now the Bush war against the poor, and to add insult to injury, we now are

asking the poor to fight while here, as a result of this fight, even the

meager programs that the Congress had seen fit to preserve as a national

policy will suffer because the money for those programs will be diverted to

the cause of this unnecessary war.

Article II of this resolution states that the President has

violated the Constitution, Federal law, and the U.N. Charter by bribing,

intimidating, and threatening others, including the members of the U.N.

Security Council, to support belligerent acts against Iraq. It is clear

that the President paid off members of the U.N. Security Council in return

for their votes in support of war against Iraq or to abstain from voting

contrariwise. The debt of Egypt was, for example, forgiven--$7 billion,

without congressional approval. That, I think, casts doubtful validity on

that Presidential action. The reason for the cancellation of that debt is

so that we can then provide an equally enormous amount of armament for Egypt

which it cannot obtain because of the debt outstanding. A $140 million loan

to China was agreed to. The Soviet Union was promised over $7 billion in

aid. This is a sum totally unreported in our country but very well

discussed in foreign country presses such as Germany and others. Colombia

was promised assistance to its armed forces. Zaire was promised military

assistance and partial forgiveness of its debt. Saudi Arabia was promised

$12 billion in arms, and more than that. Actually in October, the President

let them have $2.2 billion, and there was a commitment for $21 billion more,

but because of the outcry in Congress and the Israeli opposition, that is

being postponed. But there is still a commitment for $22 billion. I am

sure this month will see the initial efforts to bring about compliance with

that commitment.

Yemen was threatened with the termination of support, and the United States

finally paid off $187 million of its debt to the United Nations after the

vote President Bush sought was made.

This is all so ironic. When our President ran for the U.S. Senate in the

1960's, he told the people of Texas that if he would be elected to the

Senate, he would lead the fight to remove the United States from the United

Nations if what he called Red China at that time was admitted. Fate and

power almighty have a very, very mysterious way of working together. Who was

to believe during that year in that race in Texas that years later this same

man, now the President, would be the man the President would appoint to

represent us in the United Nations and welcome Red China as a member of the

United Nations.

The vote was bought, and it will be paid for with the lives of our poor

elements who are going to shoulder the fight.

Article III states that the President has conspired to engage in a massive

war against Iraq, employing methods of mass destruction that will result in

the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom will be

children. No civilian lives have yet been lost that we know of, but when we

start using the weapons of massive destruction that are in place for this

war, there is no doubt that thousands of innocent civilians will lose their

lives. As killings occur, the principles laid down in the Nuremberg trials

will be applicable. Their deaths will not only be a moral outrage, they will

constitute violations of international law.

Article IV states that the President has committed the United States to acts

of war without congressional consent and contrary to the U.N. Charter and

international law. From August 1990 through January 1991 the President

embarked on a course of action that systematically eliminated every option

for peaceful resolution of the Persian Gulf crisis. Once the President

approached Congress for a declaration of war, 500,000 American soldiers

lives were in jeopardy, rendering any substantive debate by Congress

meaningless. It is also ironic that what we have ended up with now is that

the President has exchanged about 200 to 250 so-called hostages, Americans,

all of them employees of oil companies in Kuwait or Iraq, and in exchange we

now have close to 500,000 American soldiers as hostages. Hostages to the

whims, the caprices, and the decisions and judgments made by other leaders,

over which this President and our country has no control, all the way from

Shamir of Israel to the immigrants in the Saudi sands.

Article 5 states that the President has conspired to commit crimes against

the peace by leading the United States into aggressive war against Iraq, in

violation of article 24 of the U.N. Charter, the Nuremberg Charter, other

international instruments and treaties, and the Constitution of the United

States.

Again, there is a violation of law by a President, who, believing and acting

as if he is king, decides for the country, unilaterally, that war is the

answer.

Madam Speaker, it is a sad day for our country, and it will be an even

sadder day once the fighting starts. President Bush must be stopped. A

divided Congress reflecting the divided country is no way to conduct a war.

The preservation of lives is at stake, and the preservation of our country,

indeed, our democracy, is at stake as well.

I urge my colleagues to support this resolution. All I ask is a hearing, as

I have before, before the proper committee of proper jurisdiction, and that

is it. I will argue the case there. The rest is up to the Members' judgment.

Madam Speaker, I urge interest and support of this resolution, and to stand

up to the President on behalf of the soldiers who will die, the civilians

who will be massacred, and the Constitution that will be destroyed if this

country goes to war in the Middle East.

102nd Congress

H.Res.86

1st Session

____/s/ Henry B.Gonzalez____

Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United

States, of high crimes and misdemeanors.

______________________________ _________________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 21, 1991 (originally

January 16, 1991)

Mr. GONZALEZ submitted the following resolution; which was

referred to the Committee on Judiciary.

______________________________ __________________

                          A RESOLUTION

Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United

States, of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States, of

high crimes and misdemeanors.

Resolved, That George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States is

impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles

of impeachment be exhibited to the Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the

United States of America in the name of itself and of all of the people of

the United States of America, against George Herbert Walker Bush, President

of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its

impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

                             ARTICLE I

In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George

Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to

execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the

laws be faithfully executed, has violated the equal protection clause of the

Constitution. U.S. soldiers in the Middle East are overwhelmingly poor

white, black, and Mexican-American, and their military service is based on

the coercion of an system that has denied viable economic opportunities to

these classes of citizens. Under the Constitution, all classes of citizens

are guaranteed equal protection, and calling on the poor and minorities to

fight a war for oil to preserve the lifestyles of the wealthy is a denial of

the rights of these soldiers. In all of this George Herbert Walker Bush has

acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of

constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and

justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment

and trial, and removal from office.

                            ARTICLE II

In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George

Herbert Walker bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to

execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the

laws be faithfully executed, has violated the U.S. Constitution, federal law

and the United Nations Charter by bribing, intimidating and threatening

others, including the members of the United Nations Security Council, to

support belligerent acts against Iraq. In all of this George Herbert Walker

Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive

of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and

justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment

and trial, and removal from office.

                            ARTICLE III

In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George

Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to

execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the

laws be faithfully executed, has prepared, planned, and conspired to engage

in a massive war against Iraq employing methods of mass destruction that

will result in the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom

will be children. This planning includes the placement and potential use of

nuclear weapons, and the use of such indiscriminate weapons and massive

killings by serial bombardment, or otherwise, of civilians violates the

Hague Conventions of 1907 and 1923, the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and

Protocol I thereto, the Nuremberg Charter, the Genocide Convention and the

United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. In all of this George Herbert

Walker Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and

subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause

of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United

States.

Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment

and trial, and removal from office.

                            ARTICLE IV

In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George

Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to

execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the

laws be faithfully executed, has committed the United States to acts of war

without congressional consent and contrary to the United Nations Charter and

international law. From August, 1990, through January, 1991, the President

embarked on a course of action that systematically eliminated every option

for peaceful resolution of the Persian Gulf crisis. Once the President

approached Congress for a declaration of war, 500,000 American soldiers'

lives were in jeopardy - rendering any substantive debate by Congress

meaningless. The President has not received a declaration of war by

Congress, and in contravention of the written word, the spirit, and the

intent of the U.S. Constitution has declared that he will go to war

regardless of the views of Congress and the American people. In failing to

seek a declaration of war, and in declaring his intent to violate the

Constitution in disregarding the acts of Congress - including the War Powers

Resolution - George Herbert Walker Bush has acted in a manner contrary to

his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the

great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury

of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment

and trial, and removal from office.

                            ARTICLE V

In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George

Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to

execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the

laws be faithfully executed, has planned, prepared, and conspired to commit

crimes against the peace by leading the United States into aggressive war

against Iraq in violation of Article 2(4) of the United Nations Charter, the

Nuremberg Charter, other international instruments and treaties, and the

Constitution of the United States. In all of this George Herbert Walker Bush

has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of

constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and

justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment

and trial, and removal from office.



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Subject: RE: A Vote For Hillary is a Vote for Thermonuclear War

Francis and Friends,

"Organize in Streets" I guess is the default slogan, but we must realize that the so called "Streets" have well been already organized by the

foundations, to which Soros is the present brandname for the elite, the internationalist oligarchy that wants choas and Jacobin terror unleashed

around against the United State. Provocations, violent provocations, as proven by the investigation of the DNC and its operatives, in paying

provocateurs is in the works, where the election serves as the pretext to sew chaos.

Hopefully Professor Boyle will reflect upon the impotence of the 'first pump' saying screw the election organize in the streets, when he consideres

that people actually need his knowledge and leadership in organizing the true flank against the whole crisis, which does not end until, Obama's

is removed from the nuclear button, which he has already set in motion an American "First Strike" against Russia.

This thus requires a call for the Impeachement of Obama, where such a call invokes this Berrigan-Boyle, National Call for Peace, as the way

to organize, including the 'streets" around such principle that does not shirk from the crisis at hand, which is aboutThermonuclear Annihilation

if not the destruction of this nation and civilization by other means of chaos.

Remember sociopathic criminals such as Obama, have a history, through history, of blowing up everything, rather than to face the truth

which does come with "life in jail" so they are crazy enough to knock over the chess board.

As I can anticipate a certain freakout about this call to impeach, I have been told by sources that there is a possibility that sane members

of Congress, may well act in the interrum, to invoke the call, as indeed they fear a President Trump inheriting the unchallenged dictatorial

powers of the Presidency, the Unitary Executive, which has left the world in ruins under Bush and Obama.

The issue is that a serious rebuke must be brought to the stage, to address the crisis.

A short one page letter needs to be written, by someone like Professor Boyle, as a letter to Congress and the public I think would be very

helpful in "Organizing the Streets", to not fall into the police state dialectic that the "Burn Baby Burners" from the Ford Foundation intend.

Bruce Marshall

Rochester, Vermont

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 15:52:47 +0000, "Boyle, Francis A" <fbo...@illinois.edu> wrote:

Screw the election and organize in the streets.

Ron: I was trying to be respectful to those on this list who supported Bernie: Organize in the Streets. For sure. The sooner the better. Fab.

It is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon and Hitler who are now in charge of conducting American foreign policy. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity.

American Unlimited Imperialism

Historically, this latest eruption of American militarism at the start of the 21st Century is akin to that of America opening the 20th Century by means of the U.S.-instigated Spanish-American War in 1898. Then the Republican administration of President William McKinley stole their colonial empire from Spain in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; inflicted a near genocidal war against the Filipino people; while at the same time illegally annexing the Kingdom of Hawaii and subjecting the Native Hawaiian people (who call themselves the Kanaka Maoli) to near genocidal conditions. Additionally, McKinley’s military and colonial expansion into the Pacific was also designed to secure America’s economic exploitation of China pursuant to the euphemistic rubric of the “open door” policy.   But over the next four decades America’s aggressive presence, policies, and practices in the “Pacific” would ineluctably pave the way for Japan’s attack at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 194l, and thus America’s precipitation into the ongoing Second World War. Today a century later the serial imperial aggressions launched and menaced by the Republican Bush Jr. administration and now the Democratic Obama administration are threatening to set off World War III.

By shamelessly exploiting the terrible tragedy of 11 September 2001, the Bush Jr. administration set forth to steal a hydrocarbon empire from the Muslim states and peoples living in Central Asia and the Persian Gulf and Africa under the bogus pretexts of (1) fighting a war against international terrorism; and/or (2) eliminating weapons of mass destruction; and/or (3) the promotion of democracy; and/or (4) self-styled “humanitarian intervention”/responsibility to protect. Only this time the geopolitical stakes are infinitely greater than they were a century ago: control and domination of two-thirds of the world’s hydrocarbon resources and thus the very fundament and energizer of the global economic system – oil and gas. The Bush Jr./ Obama administrations have already targeted the remaining hydrocarbon reserves of Africa, Latin America, and Southeast Asia for further conquest or domination, together with the strategic choke-points at sea and on land required for their transportation. In this regard, the Bush Jr. administration announced the establishment of the U.S. Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) in order to better control, dominate, and exploit both the natural resources and the variegated peoples of the continent of Africa, the very cradle of our human species.  Libya and the Libyans became the first victims to succumb to AFRICOM under the Obama administration. They will not be the last.

This current bout of U.S. imperialism is what my teacher, mentor and friend Hans Morgenthau denominated “unlimited imperialism” in his seminal work Politics Among Nations (4th ed. 1968, at 52-53):

“The outstanding historic examples of unlimited imperialism are the expansionist policies of Alexander the Great, Rome, the Arabs in the seventh and eighth centuries, Napoleon I, and Hitler. They all have in common an urge toward expansion which knows no rational limits, feeds on its own successes and, if not stopped by a superior force, will go on to the confines of the political world. This urge will not be satisfied so long as there remains anywhere a possible object of domination–a politically organized group of men which by its very independence challenges the conqueror’s lust for power. It is, as we shall see, exactly the lack of moderation, the aspiration to conquer all that lends itself to conquest, characteristic of unlimited imperialism, which in the past has been the undoing of the imperialistic policies of this kind… “

It is the Unlimited Imperialists along the lines of Alexander, Rome, Napoleon and Hitler who are now in charge of conducting American foreign policy. The factual circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of both the First World War and the Second World War currently hover like twin Swords of Damocles over the heads of all humanity.

Francis A. Boyle

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Subject: RE: A Vote For Hillary is a Vote for Thermonuclear War

I never trusted Sanders in the first place. However, suggesting that voting for Trump is a reasonable thing to do is at best politically naive. Screw the election and organize in the streets. The election is the ruling elites' con game. War is a fact of capitalism,especially in its imperial phase. Voting for one capitalist candidate or another will not change that. Organizing against war might.

On Nov 5, 2016 11:27 AM, "Boyle, Francis A" <fbo...@illinois.edu> wrote:

With all due respect to everyone on this list: Bernie has now sold out the Peace Movement by jumping on the Clinton Bandwagon heading towards World War III. We need to figure this out on our own and do it on our own. Personally, I could never trust Bernie to lead us again. We will have to do this on our own.

Fab.

Francis A. Boyle

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Subject: Re: A Vote For Hillary is a Vote for Thermonuclear War

I like it, Bruce. But you are of course preaching to the choir. Can you revise it for general distribution ? Some points which are commonplace for radicals might with more explanation and references be entertained by liberals.

Regards

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:20 PM, <br...@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

A Vote For Hillary is a Vote for Thermonuclear War!
This is Not "A Future To Believe In" Bernie
Boom Its Over! Obama's Finger is on the Button and Hillary Will Push it!!!!

Bruce Marshall
Rochester, Vermont

Senator Sanders's needs to stop calling people racists and do something about stopping those who have started World War III, Secretary Clinton and tragic

failure President Obama, whose "Hope and Change" has brought us war and hate. Yes lets get along with Russia, but Obama orders the Pentagon to a nuclear first strike orders, to launch at any moment, could it be if Trump wins, or could it be the indictment of Hillary and what her singing might bring. Treason Anyone!

Full on chaos is the promise of the elite which Bernie Sanders is now backing, rather than to be the truely independent leaders, who as U.S. Senator, needs to realise that he is indeed Under Oath to defend this nation, and not the crumbs he may have gotten from the rotten DNC. Yes Bernie you know who stole the nomination from you, and it was not the Russians, so why are you blaming the Russians?

Look it is simple, Hillary has already promised to take actions that will lead to a conflict with Russia in Syria, as Russia defeats the CIA's ISIS terrorists. Hillary, as Secretary of State, pushed for the bombing of Libya, destroying Libya. She worked with Nazi's in the Ukraine to stage the violent coup against the legitimate government of the Ukraine. It is now being discovered that the western press lied about Syria, that the U.S. is responsible for the carnage as it tries to overthrow the Assad government, siding with various terrorist groups, including ISIS. Remember Bernie ISIS is CIA and you would be the nominee if you had cared about more than the e-mails, but how that is part of World War III you continue to be silent and support.

Obama needs to have been impeached, but some would rather defend the elite, and destroy the nation, then to become a real opposition to war.

If Trump is President, he says he will get along with Russia, because peace is good, and thermonuclear war is not how to clean a hard drive, but this is how crazy Hillary and Obama are. So time to wave your arm in the air, and stop being part of the elite's chaos machine. Yes you got somewhere because the Americans are fed up, why lots of "Deplorables" liked you, until you betrayed the struggle and went along with those who stole your nomination, paid thugs to start fights and riots, and World War which Senator Sanders endorses until he might wake the fuck up.

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