GSoC proposals
Ondrej Certik
Leslie from Google just wrote to the mentors mailinglist, that they
would like all of you to submit your proposals to the Melange app
*now*:
so that they can judge how many applications are coming and if they
should extend the deadline, or not.
As far as I understand, you are able to change and refine the
application in the app itself:
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#depth_studentapply
So I suggest the following: take what you have, and submit an
application, then link from it to your wiki.sympy.org page.
I'll do next round of reviews of all your apps after I finish teaching
today, in about 4 hours. So make any changes you want me to check
before it, if possible.
Then you can update your app in the Melange application based on the
review. If possible, please choose your title something like:
SymPy: <your project title>
so that the SymPy applications can be easily distinguished among
others. Apply to both Python Software Foundation (PSF) and the
Portland State University (PSU).
If you want to increase your chances, tailor your PSF application to
the fact, that PSF guys all know Python and most Python libraries, so
you don't need to advocate Python that much, while if submitting to
PSU, some of the mentors there know Python, but some not and
generally they have project proposals for all kinds of different
things, so you need to explain why it is good to fund your project
idea.
If you find some other organization to apply to, feel free to do so
(and let me know so that I can apply as a mentor there too).
Thanks,
Ondrej
Aaron S. Meurer
explaining the math behind my application. For example, will the PSF
and PSU people know enough about differential to know that my
application (ordinary differential equations) and Priit's application
(partial differential equations) are really distinct proposals?
So far I have copied verbatim the PSF application. I will work on
fitting it to the PSU format and fixing both later tonight.
Aaron
Ondrej Certik
>
> To what extent should I tailor each application with respect to
> explaining the math behind my application. For example, will the PSF
> and PSU people know enough about differential to know that my
> application (ordinary differential equations) and Priit's application
> (partial differential equations) are really distinct proposals?
That's a good question. Definitely people at PSU will now, it's a
university. I was actually an intern there couple years ago.
At to PSF, I think most of them will now too, but you may put one or
two sentences explaining the difference.
In general, both PSF and PSU leaves me and other sympy mentors to rate
all sympy applications and then depending on how many slots PSF and
PSU gets, it assings certain amount of slots just to sympy. Then
those applications that are above the threshold make it.
So applying to two orgs increases your chances. I expect we'll most
probably get one or two slots at PSF (maybe more if all sympy
applications are really good!) and maybe one at PSU (last year we
didn't get any, but the year before we got 1 --- it really depends on
how good sympy's applications there are).
In general, from my experience in last two years, every single
application is being looked at, usually by several mentors and the
rating was I think accurate both at PSF and PSU.
> So far I have copied verbatim the PSF application. I will work on
> fitting it to the PSU format and fixing both later tonight.
Awesome. Please ping me to look over it.
Ondrej
Aaron S. Meurer
. The PSU application has a different form, so I may need to
rewrite a significant portion of it, so I may or may not finish it
tonight (I also have homework :-O). Here is a link to the PSU page if
you want to go ahead and watch it: http://socghop.appspot.com/student_proposal/show/google/gsoc2009/asmeurer/t123855671338
. Right now, it is just a copy of the PSF application, but I plan
on re-factoring it fit the PSU template, and also to appeal to the PSU
people better as you have noted.
Aaron
Ondrej Certik
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Aaron S. Meurer <asme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ondrej, I have finished the Python application. It is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/student_proposal/show/google/gsoc2009/asmeurer/t123854260471
> . The PSU application has a different form, so I may need to
> rewrite a significant portion of it, so I may or may not finish it
> tonight (I also have homework :-O). Here is a link to the PSU page if
> you want to go ahead and watch it: http://socghop.appspot.com/student_proposal/show/google/gsoc2009/asmeurer/t123855671338
> . Right now, it is just a copy of the PSF application, but I plan
> on re-factoring it fit the PSU template, and also to appeal to the PSU
> people better as you have noted.
Thanks a lot. I'll look over it soon.
Ondrej
Ondrej Certik
I went over your application and I think it looks good! Thanks for it,
it shows that you invested lots of time into it.
Try to do the PSU application in a similar spirit and then let's hope
we get enough slots. :)
Ondrej
Ondrej Certik
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Aaron S. Meurer <asme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> To what extent should I tailor each application with respect to
>> explaining the math behind my application. For example, will the PSF
>> and PSU people know enough about differential to know that my
>> application (ordinary differential equations) and Priit's application
>> (partial differential equations) are really distinct proposals?
>
> That's a good question. Definitely people at PSU will now, it's a
> university. I was actually an intern there couple years ago.
>
> At to PSF, I think most of them will now too, but you may put one or
> two sentences explaining the difference.
>
> In general, both PSF and PSU leaves me and other sympy mentors to rate
> all sympy applications and then depending on how many slots PSF and
> PSU gets, it assings certain amount of slots just to sympy. Then
> those applications that are above the threshold make it.
>
> So applying to two orgs increases your chances. I expect we'll most
> probably get one or two slots at PSF (maybe more if all sympy
> applications are really good!) and maybe one at PSU (last year we
> didn't get any, but the year before we got 1 --- it really depends on
> how good sympy's applications there are).
>
> In general, from my experience in last two years, every single
> application is being looked at, usually by several mentors and the
> rating was I think accurate both at PSF and PSU.
As Aaron pointed to me offlist, here is a link that you should try to
follow for the PSU apps:
http://summer.cs.pdx.edu/propose
Generally, try to follow the guidelines, that the particular
organization provides.
Ondrej