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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 14, 2016, 5:09:59 PM3/14/16
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Now that we have SymPy 1.0, it is time to write a paper for SymPy
(along the lines of these https://www.scipy.org/citing.html). If you
are interested in being a co-author for this, please let me know by
the end of the week.

Aaron Meurer

Ondřej Čertík

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Mar 14, 2016, 5:17:07 PM3/14/16
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I am interested. Why don't you start a repository on github, so that
people can start contributing?

Ondrej

Sartaj Singh

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Mar 14, 2016, 5:19:11 PM3/14/16
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On 15 March 2016 at 02:47, Ondřej Čertík <ondrej...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Aaron Meurer <asme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that we have SymPy 1.0, it is time to write a paper for SymPy
> (along the lines of these https://www.scipy.org/citing.html). If you
> are interested in being a co-author for this, please let me know by
> the end of the week.


I too am interested. :)
 
I am interested. Why don't you start a repository on github, so that
people can start contributing?

That sounds like a good idea. +1
 
Ondrej

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Aaron Meurer

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Anthony Scopatz

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Me too, obviously :)


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Harsh Gupta

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Fredrik Johansson

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Mar 14, 2016, 11:11:55 PM3/14/16
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I'm interested, but I'm not exactly sure what being a co-author means and whether I'm qualified, since I haven't contributed substantially to SymPy since 2008 (apart from maintaining mpmath).

Fredrik

AMiT Kumar

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Mar 14, 2016, 11:17:03 PM3/14/16
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I am interested too.


Amit Kumar

Sumith 1896

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Mar 14, 2016, 11:20:44 PM3/14/16
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I am in. I can help out with some sections.

Sumith

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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 14, 2016, 11:24:49 PM3/14/16
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Is there a paper for mpmath that we can cite?

Aaron Meurer

Shivam Vats

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Mar 15, 2016, 3:03:27 AM3/15/16
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I am interested.

Will we be focussing on practical applications of SymPy or its modules? 
For example, ring series tuned out to be a successful experiment
and others may be interested in the idea.

Francesco Bonazzi

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Mar 15, 2016, 4:06:50 AM3/15/16
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I am also interested.

Ashutosh Saboo

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Mar 15, 2016, 6:02:49 AM3/15/16
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Hi,

I am interested in working for this. But actually, Aaron Sir, could you list the details that need to be provided in the paper with the relevant topics as well? So, that it'll be easier for us to work on those writing about those topics as well. 

Thanks! :)

Ashutosh Saboo

On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 13:36:50 UTC+5:30, Francesco Bonazzi wrote:
I am also interested.

Jason Moore

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Mar 15, 2016, 6:49:58 PM3/15/16
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I'm happy to be a part of this too. I imagine the scope could be huge, so maybe deciding on what the main points of the paper would be a good start.

Aaron, do you have an idea of what the theme of the paper would be?

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Aaron Meurer

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There is already some discussion of this happening on the issues and
wiki of https://github.com/asmeurer/sympy-paper.

Aaron Meurer
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Ondřej Čertík

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Mar 18, 2016, 11:41:53 AM3/18/16
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We use the following criteria for authorship credit [1]:

1) substantial contributions to conception and design, or acquisition
of data, or analysis and interpretation of data

2) drafting the article or revising it critically for important
intellectual content

3) final approval of the version to be published

Authors should meet conditions 1), 2), and 3).


Fredrik, you already satisfied 1), and you are involved in writing the
paper, so you'll satisfy 2) and 3), so you should be an author.


[1] Shamoo, Adil E., and David B. Resnik. Responsible conduct of
research. Oxford University Press, USA, 2003.

Jason Moore

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Mar 18, 2016, 12:03:22 PM3/18/16
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+1 to either.
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Ondřej Čertík

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Mar 18, 2016, 12:24:33 PM3/18/16
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PeerJ and other journals follow this:
>
> http://www.icmje.org/recommendations/browse/roles-and-responsibilities/defining-the-role-of-authors-and-contributors.html#two
>
> which adds an accountability statement too.
>
> +1 to either.

Good point. The criteria that I posted from [1] are actually taken
from ICMJE, but you can see that the publication [1] is from 2003, so
I assume that ICMJE added the accountability statement later, with
which I fully agree.

For reference here are the updated ICMJE criteria:

* Substantial contributions to the conception or design of the work;
or the acquisition, analysis, or interpretation of data for the work;
AND
* Drafting the work or revising it critically for important
intellectual content; AND
* Final approval of the version to be published; AND
* Agreement to be accountable for all aspects of the work in ensuring
that questions related to the accuracy or integrity of any part of the
work are appropriately investigated and resolved.


So let's follow the updated criteria.

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