GSoC update for applications

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Ondřej Čertík

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Mar 4, 2015, 7:16:31 PM3/4/15
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Hi,

I've spent lot's of time yesterday and today talking to other GSoC
organizations and a lot of them very generously agreed to consider
sympy and csympy proposals.

Here is an update where to submit applications.

* Python Software Foundation (PSF)

PSF is our canonical umbrella organization and all applications should go there.

* Sage

Sage offered to also help out. In particular, this GSoC idea got
approved for sure:
http://wiki.sagemath.org/GSoC/2015#Make_Sage_use_CSymPy_as_the_symbolic_engine,
but you can submit other ideas too.

* NumFOCUS

NumFOCUS also said they would accept SymPy applications. It is not
clear how many slots they will get though, as usually Google only
gives 1 or 2 to new organizations, but it is worth a try.



Then there are few more targeted projects:

* SciRuby

SciRuby is something like SciPy in Python, but for Ruby. They are
interested in (fast) symbolic manipulation as well, so they approved
this idea:

https://github.com/SciRuby/sciruby/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2015-Ideas#ruby-bindings-to-the-csympy-c-symbolic-library

* lmonade

Here is their ideas page: http://wiki.lmona.de/get_involved/projects
They agreed to also consider well targeted proposals for CSymPy.


If I find more organizations, I will post here. You are free to submit
several proposals and to several organizations. However, you should
always make sure that you only submit high quality proposal and
targeted to the organization, so that your application is not
perceived as spam.
The best is to get in touch with us about your proposal and we can
help where to submit it and provide feedback. Each organization then
decides itself (based on their own rules) from the all the
applications that it received.

We would be happy if you submit proposals for SymPy/CSymPy but you are
of course welcome to submit for other projects as well, simply get in
touch with the given organizations and idea that you are interested
about.

Ondrej

AMiT Kumar

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Mar 5, 2015, 12:43:56 AM3/5/15
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Hi Ondrej,

From the above list of organizations, I think the organizations I should apply for 
that fits to the project I am working on i.e. ' Solvers : Extending Solveset ' (in SymPy)
is Python Software Foundation and NumFocus. (Correct me If I am wrong.)

Do I need to talk to them as well?

AMiT Kumar

Ondřej Čertík

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Mar 5, 2015, 12:49:46 AM3/5/15
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Hi AMiT,

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:43 PM, AMiT Kumar <dtu....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ondrej,
>
> From the above list of organizations, I think the organizations I should
> apply for
> that fits to the project I am working on i.e. ' Solvers : Extending Solveset
> ' (in SymPy)
> is Python Software Foundation and NumFocus. (Correct me If I am wrong.)
>
> Do I need to talk to them as well?

No, you don't need to talk to these two orgs, just submit it. To
increase your chances, you can ask us for feedback.

Ondrej

AMiT Kumar

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Mar 5, 2015, 1:05:08 AM3/5/15
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That seems a good idea.

Thanks 

Thilina Rathnayake

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Mar 5, 2015, 1:46:11 AM3/5/15
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This is great news !!

Regards,
Thilina

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Aaron Meurer

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Mar 5, 2015, 4:36:41 PM3/5/15
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Yes, we will be encouraging students to submit to all organizations
that are relevant. That will make it easier on us to accept who we
want to, considering that different organizations may get different
number of slots. Everyone should submit to at least PSF and NumFOCUS.

Aaron Meurer
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Jason Moore

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Mar 5, 2015, 4:47:44 PM3/5/15
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I had a nice chat with Raniere this morning in Ondrej's stead.

Conclusions:

- NumFOCUS wants to be an umbrella org like PSF.
- All currently sponsored NumFOCUS sub-orgs can have students submit applications.
- Not currently sponsored NumFOCUS orgs can also apply to be a sub-org, i.e. email Raniere.
- Each sub-org will rank the applications to their org and select the best. Then the sub-org will request slots from Raniere.
- NumFOCUS will request a total # of slots from Google. If we have good applications, then we will ask Google for at least one slot per sub-org. We think that Google may give more than 2 slots since NumFOCUS is an umbrella org.
- If Google awards fewer slots than # of sub-orgs then precedence will go towards NumFOCUS sub-orgs who can't apply under other orgs (for example Julia). Otherwise the sub-org leads will hash it out and decide together how they are distributed.
- SymPy's mentors should connect to NumFOCUS in Melange.
- SymPy can offer some of our admin assistance to help NumFOCUS since we have a lot of experience.
- We need to link our ideas page on the NumFOCUS idea's list and add SymPy to the list of sub-orgs.

I think that's all. So we should send students to apply to NumFOCUS. There is a good chance we will get at least one slot (if Google is generous).

Tim Lahey

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Mar 5, 2015, 10:12:13 PM3/5/15
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We can't connect with NumFOCUS in Melange yet, can we? I can't see any
way to do it at the moment.

Based on the initial proposals, I'm not sure what I could mentor, but I
thought I'd do it to be prepared.

On 5 Mar 2015, at 16:47, Jason Moore wrote:

> I had a nice chat with Raniere this morning in Ondrej's stead.
>
> Conclusions:
>
> - SymPy's mentors should connect to NumFOCUS in Melange.
>

Cheers,

Tim.

Jason Moore

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Mar 6, 2015, 12:10:13 PM3/6/15
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I'm not sure about the Melange connection. We'll need to ask Rainere I guess.
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Raniere Silva

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Mar 6, 2015, 8:54:45 PM3/6/15
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Jason,

thanks for your time to chat.

In reword the conclusions you wrote here
at https://github.com/swcarpentry/gsoc2015/pull/12.
Feedbacks from SymPy community are very welcome.

Cheers,
Raniere

Raniere Silva

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Mar 6, 2015, 8:57:11 PM3/6/15
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> We can't connect with NumFOCUS in Melange yet, can we?

Yes, you can. Go to
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/connection/pick/google/gsoc2015,
search for NumFOCUS, select it and follow the instructions.

If you have any problem,
send me a email and I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Raniere
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